[Repeater-Builder] RE: Yagi's For Repeaters?

[Davies, Doug A FOR:EX]

Thanks to all for the replies on using Yagi's as repeater antennas.  All
reports seemed favorable so I think I'm going to give one a try.  I have a
5-element one all ready to go.

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[Repeater-Builder] Low-pass audio filter for repeater transmitters

[no6b]

A while back there was a thread here regarding a LPF that someone designed 
as a post-limiter modulation filter.  I believe Kevin bought the boards & 
parts & sold all of them & intended to offer more after making improvements 
to the original design.  For some reason I can't find the thread in the 
archives; I must be using the wrong words to search for it.

I have a need for such a board in a rather short time frame.  Does anybody 
have any of these that they'd like to part with or have the design so I can 
build one?  Or Kevin perhaps you have the updated design ready?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[Neil McKie]

  I suppose if you are real happy with the thought of a 130 watt 
 output repeater, so be it. 

  I used to use a 110 watt output mobile on the 2 meter band.  I 
 now use a 25 watt mobile. 

  At one time, my two meter repeater had a PA deck problem.  We 
 changed the operation from the 40 watt output to just the exciter 
 = 0.4 watts out.  None of the users complained as they didn't have 
 a clue. 

  Have you ever tried operating your repeater at minimum power?  


  FCC Part 97.313(a)  An amateur station must use the minimum 
 transmitter power necessary to carry out desired communications. 


  73, 

  Neil McKie - WA6KLA 


> James wrote:
> 
> Why do you folks have to ask questions like that. Some users DO have
> radios over 100 watts. Some repeater owners DO have voting receive!!
> Please just answer the guys question. I know that MOST repeaters ARE
> over 50 watts and some even have pre amps on them. A preamp of just 3
> dB in theory would make a 50 watt mobile seem as strong as a 100 watt
> mobile provided no enviromental factors are effecting either end.
> 
> James
> 
> Neil McKie wrote:
> 
> >   Are the repeater users using 130 or 500 watts to get in?  I doubt
> >  it.
> >
> >   Neil
> >
> >
> > "Mr. Edgar McKinney" wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Neil McKie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >   I am curious, why do you need 130 watts?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Me too!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >   What is wrong with 50 watts?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 50 cant be heard beyond 75 miles. Try 500. The repeater on top of
> >> the
> >> hospital is running 500. Another using 3500 watts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >>  I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the
> >> >>  new one is 50 watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for
> >> >>  suggestions for a Power Amplifier. My preference based on
> >> >>  everyone I've talked to so far is the TE Systems 1406, but
> >> >>  I'd like to know what people on this list think.
> >> >>
> >> >>  Terry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[James]

Why do you folks have to ask questions like that. Some users DO have
radios over 100 watts. Some repeater owners DO have voting receive!!
Please just answer the guys question. I know that MOST repeaters ARE
over 50 watts and some even have pre amps on them. A preamp of just 3
dB in theory would make a 50 watt mobile seem as strong as a 100 watt
mobile provided no enviromental factors are effecting either end.

James

Neil McKie wrote:

Are the repeater users using 130 or 500 watts to get in?  I doubt 
 it. 

  Neil 


"Mr. Edgar McKinney" wrote:
  
  
Neil McKie wrote:



I am curious, why do you need 130 watts?
  

Me too!



What is wrong with 50 watts?
  

50 cant be heard beyond 75 miles. Try 500. The repeater on top of the
hospital is running 500. Another using 3500 watts.



  
I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the
new one is 50 watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for
suggestions for a Power Amplifier. My preference based on
everyone I've talked to so far is the TE Systems 1406, but
I'd like to know what people on this list think.

Terry



  

  
  




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yagi's For Repeaters?

[Kevin Custer]

mch wrote:

>The only one I can think of is decreased range to the sides(again, into the 
>mountains) and back (which is why you may want another pointed in that 
>direction).
>

I have seen Cushcraft 3 element beams modified by cutting the reflector 
down to the same size as the director.  Works bi-directional real well 
with careful mounting.

Kevin





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yagi's For Repeaters?

[mch]

There are some repeaters that use yagis - mostly in terrain such as you
describe. I don't know about the stacking, but stacked or not, the yagi
will 'aim' your signal where you need it. After all, there is little use
'pounding' your signal omni into the sides of the mountain. You may as
well get the extra gain down the valley. Maybe by stacked, they meant
one pointing down the valley and another pointing up? There are few
pitfalls. The only one I can think of is decreased range to the sides
(again, into the mountains) and back (which is why you may want another
pointed in that direction).

Joe M.

Davies, Doug A FOR:EX wrote:
> 
> We need to get VHF signals to and from an area about 40 miles south of us
> through a mountain valley.  For this particular repeater, that is the only
> area it will serve in addition to us locally.  Someone suggested using two
> stacked Yagi's pointed directly down the valley.  I've never seen Yagi's
> used in repeater service.  Will this scheme work?  Are there any pifalls to
> be aware of?  Any and all comments are welcome.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[Neil McKie]

  Are the repeater users using 130 or 500 watts to get in?  I doubt 
 it. 

  Neil 


"Mr. Edgar McKinney" wrote:
> 
> Neil McKie wrote:
> 
> >   I am curious, why do you need 130 watts?
> 
> Me too!
> 
> >   What is wrong with 50 watts?
> 
> 50 cant be heard beyond 75 miles. Try 500. The repeater on top of the
> hospital is running 500. Another using 3500 watts.
> 
> > > I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the
> > > new one is 50 watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for
> > > suggestions for a Power Amplifier. My preference based on
> > > everyone I've talked to so far is the TE Systems 1406, but
> > > I'd like to know what people on this list think.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Yagi's For Repeaters?

[skipp025]

Done all the time.

I would avoid the stacking yagi option unless you buy 
a pre canned package with instructions from a known 
antenna company with a track record of good engineering. 

It's hard to properly stack and phase yagi's when done 
from individual parts. Spacing and cable harness problems 
will cause you much grief. 

The best option for your VHF Signal, might simply be 
a decent quality 5 or 7 element beam. You'll be surprised 
how wide the usable beam width is.  

cheers
skipp 

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www.radiowrench.com 


> "Davies, Doug A FOR:EX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We need to get VHF signals to and from an area about 40 miles south
of us
> through a mountain valley.  For this particular repeater, that is
the only
> area it will serve in addition to us locally.  Someone suggested
using two
> stacked Yagi's pointed directly down the valley.  I've never seen
Yagi's
> used in repeater service.  Will this scheme work?  Are there any
pifalls to
> be aware of?  Any and all comments are welcome.
> 
> Doug  VA7DD





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yagi's For Repeaters?

[Dave Baughn]

It will surely work. I would be careful to use good ones and pay particular 
attention to how the elements are mounted to the boom. Any poor connection 
could cause noise while duplexing.  Dave/kx4i
PS I remember using one back in the 70s repeater wars. Worked great until 
the competition put on a couple of 4CX250Bs. They won.
 
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signals to and from an area about 40 miles south of usthrough a mountain 
valley.  For this particular repeater, that is the onlyarea it will 
serve in addition to us locally.  Someone suggested using twostacked 
Yagi's pointed directly down the valley.  I've never seen Yagi'sused in 
repeater service.  Will this scheme work?  Are there any pifalls 
tobe aware of?  Any and all comments are welcome.Doug  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[mch]

Maybe the repeater RX is 3-13 dB hotter than most user RXs? ;->

As for T.E. Systems, I was turned off on them after one of their
amps caught fire and almost burned down an equipment shelter. 8-[
(Terribly Engineered Systems?)

Joe M.

Neil McKie wrote:
> 
>   Are the repeater users using 130 or 500 watts to get in?  I doubt
>  it.
> 
>   Neil
> 
> "Mr. Edgar McKinney" wrote:
> >
> > Neil McKie wrote:
> >
> > >   I am curious, why do you need 130 watts?
> >
> > Me too!
> >
> > >   What is wrong with 50 watts?
> >
> > 50 cant be heard beyond 75 miles. Try 500. The repeater on top of the
> > hospital is running 500. Another using 3500 watts.
> >
> > > > I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the
> > > > new one is 50 watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for
> > > > suggestions for a Power Amplifier. My preference based on
> > > > everyone I've talked to so far is the TE Systems 1406, but
> > > > I'd like to know what people on this list think.
> > > >
> > > > Terry




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yagi's For Repeaters?

[Jim B.]

Davies, Doug A FOR:EX wrote:

> We need to get VHF signals to and from an area about 40 miles south of us
> through a mountain valley.  For this particular repeater, that is the only
> area it will serve in addition to us locally.  Someone suggested using two
> stacked Yagi's pointed directly down the valley.  I've never seen Yagi's
> used in repeater service.  Will this scheme work?  Are there any pifalls to
> be aware of?  Any and all comments are welcome.
> 
> Doug  VA7DD
> 

Yup-it'll work. A group here tried it back in the 70's. They had two 
4-element cushcrafts pointed E/W along Lake Erie. It was solid 10W 
mobile coverage for 50-60 mi along the lake (or more), but less then 10 
mi to the south was gone. Unusable.
I would say take your existing omni, and with a power splitter, split a 
4-element pointed the way you want and see if it does what you want 
without sacrificing too much locally. Play with separation a little, 
too. Phasing will likely be an issue.

-- 
Jim Barbour
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Builder= ROIP

[skipp025]

Many of us commercial operators use voip - roip 
systems to compete with Trident Passport 
type systems. Min 30dB less cost when properly 
engineered. 

cheers
skipp

> steve scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ROIP does not provide as high of a residual income as compared to
keeping customers on our own system, as far as our AVL is concerened.
I don't know what other markets are doing, although I get the same mags.
> The role of the RM is changing my friend.
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[Repeater-Builder] Yagi's For Repeaters?

[Davies, Doug A FOR:EX]

We need to get VHF signals to and from an area about 40 miles south of us
through a mountain valley.  For this particular repeater, that is the only
area it will serve in addition to us locally.  Someone suggested using two
stacked Yagi's pointed directly down the valley.  I've never seen Yagi's
used in repeater service.  Will this scheme work?  Are there any pifalls to
be aware of?  Any and all comments are welcome.

Doug  VA7DD






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[Kevin Berlen]

I have had good luck with both Henrey and TPL in repeater service. Good
luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 05:45 PM 8/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:

>I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the new one is 50
>watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for suggestions for a Power
>Amplifier. My preference based on everyone I've talked to so far is the TE
>Systems 1406, but I'd like to know what people on this list think.
>
>Terry
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[Mr. Edgar McKinney]

Neil McKie wrote:

>   I am curious, why do you need 130 watts?

Me too!

>   What is wrong with 50 watts?

50 cant be heard beyond 75 miles. Try 500. The repeater on top of the
hospital is running 500. Another using 3500 watts.

> > I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the
> > new one is 50 watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for
> > suggestions for a Power Amplifier. My preference based on
> > everyone I've talked to so far is the TE Systems 1406, but
> > I'd like to know what people on this list think.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder= ROIP

[steve scott]

ROIP does not provide as high of a residual income as compared to keeping customers on our own system, as far as our AVL is concerened. I don't know what other markets are doing, although I get the same mags.
The role of the RM is changing my friend.
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I just read an article thought to talk about Radio Over IP this is what the commercial 2 way market is now starting to venture into my source is Radio Resource -- Mission Critical Communications  Aug 2004 pg 34   by Tony Lane  in his diagram and dicussion they are using WAN / LAN which is very interesting.
 
Tony Lane is VP of Midland Radio   seems that our Echolink is now capturing the Commercial 2 way market.
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder= ROIP

[steve scott]

I agree. I work in Commercial Two-way. The problem with ROIP and a SMALL two-way shop, is the lack of high residual income. My example of AVL (and its apparent surge with ROIP and commercial two-way shops)is. keeping them on our system is much more profitable.The role of the RM is changing...
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna suggestions

[TGundo 2003]

can you give me any info on a vender you might know of? I have been looking and cant seem to find one.
 
Thanks!
tomruss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




There are still vendors who stock the below cut in the Ham bands. 440 to 450 MHz you should buy one already in the Ham bands.
Why spend your money on a new DB products in the wrong band to start with?
73, Russ, W3CH
 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna suggestions

Would i want to go with the 408-A (406-420) or the 408-B (450-470)? Do you know if either of these antennas are tunable by the end user? The website is not clear about that. The repeater is going to be 441.850/446.850.
 
Thanks again for your input!
 
TomChuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DB-408 will give you decent gain without the extra length and cost of theDB-420. It has 4-bays (8 elements).It will give you good close-in coverage with HT's that the higher gainantennas can't give. If most of your potential users are 10-15 miles away,the DB-420 (8-bays, 16 elements) is not the best choice.ChuckWB2EDV- Original Message - From: "tgundo2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:58 PMSubject: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna suggestions> Hey all->> I am in the process of putting up a new UHF repeater in the area and> I am looking for any input on which antenna might best suit my needs.>> Let me give you some background:>> It is a motorola Mitrek 30 watt UHF converted to
 a full duplex. The> radios are up and running in the shack. I am looking into a preamp> for the radio as well(Ill take suggestions on that as well!)>> The repeater site is a water tower in the area, appx. 150ft agl. It> is a virgin site, no other antennas or radio gear there now. There is> nothing obstrructing the site in any direction. I want omni-> directional coverage from the site.>> I will be fabricating the antenna mount to my needs, however I would> like to try to keep the antenna as lightweight as possible, without> sacrificing too much performance or duribility, to make for ease of> installation. 16 bay with heavy mast is out of the question.>> I was considering a Decibel Products DB-636 for its 6 dbd of gain and> being relativly lightweight and simple to mount from the base. I also> looked at the Hustler Spirit Series. I want a good antenna up there,> I
 really don't want to make that climb often. However I see all kinds> of comments out there about staying away from fiberglass antennas for> repeaters. This causes me to look into this more closely.>> Any advise or suggestions would be helpful and appreciated!>> Thanks and 73's>> de Tom> W9SRV Yahoo! Groups Links>>Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Service monitor

[Joe Ciarcia]

I don't presently have a manual but had one of these monitors with the same 
issue.
I found that one of the thumb wheel switches was bad. Replacing it solved the
problem. Of course this may not be your problem but hope it helps.

73, Joe



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>I am looking for manuals for a Motorola Service monitor comparable to the 
>S1327a/b - s1200 series.
>I have a friend who has one that the frequency synthesizer pll does not lock
>and we would like to get it operational again to read deviation on our FM 
>radio's.
>
>I can send a photo but I am sure we are not allowed to post photos to the 
>list
>Could I post it to the photo's or files section so that I can find out a bit
>more on the unit and hopefully a source of documentation for it ?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jon
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

[russ]

We have replaced all of our amps with Crescent Amps (14) on the Metro-Comm
repeater system and they all have given us zero problems. (bad power
supplies)
Very happy with them and the dealer in NJ we got them from. Great service
after the sale. They even called us to see how we where making out. But a
word to the wise if they offer you a power supply to go with the amp run a
way! They sent us duracom power supplies at 1st. They made enough noise on
the two meter repeater in put to course the receiver to open up. They did
replace all of the power supplies with Astron at no charge.
Good luck,
Russ, W3CH

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions


> Jeff Otterson wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> >I generally keep quiet, and you will probably never hear me say
> > something bad about a product again, but here goes.
> >
> >If I were you, I would avoid TE Systems like the black plague.
> >
> >Their customer service is truly the pits.  God forbid you need to get
> > your amplifier serviced, you may never see it again.
> >
> >You can email me if you want more details.
> >
> >I have heard good things about Crescend and TPL amplifiers.  But I
have
> > never used either.  Somebody like Jeff DePolo could give you good
advice, I
> > think.
> >
> >Good luck with your project.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > At 08:45 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the new one is
50
> >>watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for suggestions for a Power
> >>Amplifier. My preference based on everyone I've talked to so far is the
TE
> >>Systems 1406, but I'd like to know what people on this list think.
> >>
> >>Terry
> >>
>
>   I believe Kenwood used TE amps for awhile, and stopped very quickly.
> They now use something else.
>
>
> -- 
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna suggestions

[russ]

There are still vendors who stock the below cut in the Ham bands. 440 to 
450 MHz you should buy one already in the Ham bands.
Why spend your money on a new DB products in the wrong band to start 
with?
73, Russ, W3CH
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  TGundo 
  2003 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:09 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF 
  repeater antenna suggestions
  
  Would i want to go with the 408-A (406-420) or the 408-B (450-470)? Do 
  you know if either of these antennas are tunable by the end user? The website 
  is not clear about that. The repeater is going to be 441.850/446.850.
   
  Thanks again for your input!
   
  TomChuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  DB-408 
will give you decent gain without the extra length and cost of 
theDB-420. It has 4-bays (8 elements).It will give you good 
close-in coverage with HT's that the higher gainantennas can't give. If 
most of your potential users are 10-15 miles away,the DB-420 (8-bays, 16 
elements) is not the best choice.ChuckWB2EDV- 
Original Message - From: "tgundo2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:58 
PMSubject: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna 
suggestions> Hey all->> I am in the process of 
putting up a new UHF repeater in the area and> I am looking for any 
input on which antenna might best suit my needs.>> Let me give 
you some background:>> It is a motorola Mitrek 30 watt UHF 
converted to a full duplex. The> radios are up and running in the 
shack. I am looking into a preamp> for the radio as well(Ill take 
suggestions on that as well!)>> The repeater site is a water 
tower in the area, appx. 150ft agl. It> is a virgin site, no other 
antennas or radio gear there now. There is> nothing obstrructing the 
site in any direction. I want omni-> directional coverage from the 
site.>> I will be fabricating the antenna mount to my needs, 
however I would> like to try to keep the antenna as lightweight as 
possible, without> sacrificing too much performance or duribility, to 
make for ease of> installation. 16 bay with heavy mast is out of the 
question.>> I was considering a Decibel Products DB-636 for 
its 6 dbd of gain and> being relativly lightweight and simple to 
mount from the base. I also> looked at the Hustler Spirit Series. I 
want a good antenna up there,> I really don't want to make that climb 
often. However I see all kinds> of comments out there about staying 
away from fiberglass antennas for> repeaters. This causes me to look 
into this more closely.>> Any advise or suggestions would be 
helpful and appreciated!>> Thanks and 73's>> de 
Tom> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna suggestions

[russ]

Hey Bob,
DBc is gain over a cruchcraft. just subtract the gain listed on a Ringo
ranger, Diamond or comet by 6.1 to get dbd. I know all about dbi just
subtract 2.7 or 2.9 to get dbd and so on. True gain is all ways in dbd, Its
most of the time a joke dbc.  But buying a DB products is no joke they will
give him years of good service and work very well!
Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UHF repeater antenna suggestions


> At 8/25/2004 12:48 AM, you wrote:
> >Stick with the DB products. You can't go wrong. Remember it is rated in
true
> >dbd not the fake dbi or DBc but real gain.
>
> Please explain how dBi is "fake".  Yes it relates gain to a theoretical
> antenna, but it does mean something to us theoretical folks.  Also how
does
> "dBc" relate to antenna gain?
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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Service monitor

[JJ]

I am looking for manuals for a Motorola Service 
monitor comparable to the S1327a/b - s1200 
series.
I have a friend who has one that the frequency 
synthesizer pll does not lock 
and we would like to get it operational again to read deviation on our FM 
radio's.
 
I can send a photo but I am sure we are not 
allowed to post photos to the list
Could I post it to the photo's or files section so 
that I can find out a bit
more on the unit and hopefully a source of documentation for it ?
 
Thanks in advance,
Jon
KD5SFA
 
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