Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena-And a Big Thanks to everyone!!!!
Well, I finished putting up my system today, consisting of a converted motorola mitrek (that old junk I converted, not built :) oy!) and a DB-420 fed with 7/8" heliax. Its mounted atop a water tower at 150 ft, 130' haat. I have had portables up to 15 miles away getting in well, one was 10 miles away on the ht inside the car down in whats known as an rf hole and he was full quieting. A pleasant suprise. So oviously the 420 works well. I had the choice of a 408, but Skipp has that one now. I got the 420 as a "gift" so I chose to go with that. I see a few around here that have been up for quite a while, no bends in them. We will see what happens to ours after a few chicago storm seasons and winters. A BIG thanks goes out to all on the list who helped out our project. ALL of the advise here is priceless and really aids us first timers! Kevin, keep it up! Thanks again to all! Tom W9SRVW8RIF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am looking for a good anttena for the 440 repeater. something with a lot of gain. any ideas.W8RIF Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: A Good 440 Anttena
Speaking of leaning . . . most of the tower top DB420's down here in Charleston are bending over 10-20 degrees after two category 1 hurricanes we had last summer :-) The smaller antennas seem to have done better. John/N4SJW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree but lean toward the 408 over the 420. > > Chuck > WB2EDV > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena > > > > > > I would suggest the Decibel Products DB-408 or the > > DB-420 antenna.. I have two DB-420's and 11 DB-408 in > > service in the 440 band and they all work great.. They > > are all the 450-470 mhz model.. Put them up once and > > walk away.. > > > > Leon-N2HLT > > > > http://www.expage.com/n2hlt > > > > > > --- W8RIF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I am looking for a good anttena for the 440 > >> repeater. something with a lot > >> of gain. any ideas. > >> > >> W8RIF > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] leak proof connector :)
Did he happen to have a 11 Meter Radio by chance ? sounds like on of them self proclaimed Golden Screwdriver Technicians. Mark Holman mark.holman at talkamerica dot net - Original Message - From: "Brent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] leak proof connector :) > > Here is one to get you all going ! > > I Had a guy install a antenna for me at one of my sites. > Guess what he did when he hooked the jumper from the antenna to the > hardline. ? ? ? ? > The Guy Used teflon tape on the darn connectors.., it screwed me all up. > Just thought I would pass that along, I asked him if he had tape and all > the > needed tools he said Yes NEXT time i will look, not ask the first > time..(obvioulsy he has climbed before but think he was just a nut and > bolt > holder) > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 3/23/2005 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR-7000 battery backup
I think the concern is that of many trickle charge systems. They are designed to float the batteries and switch over if needed. They are NOT designed to recharge a depleted battery bank. All this is fine unless you lose power on the site for 48 hours and run your batteries flat and then the power comes back on, and tries to charge them. Ideally if you ran on batteries for some time, you would go to the site and make sure they weren’t too low and/or charge them up with a real charger prior to putting the float charger back on them. Also you could put a low voltage dropout device in there that dropped the system prior to dipping the batteries too low. Good Luck! From: Mark Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR-7000 battery backup Wouldn't it be much simpler to charge the battery B4 installing it ? playing safe that way Mark Holman mark.holman at talkamerica dot net - Original Message - From: Per Molund To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR-7000 battery backup We have recently accuired a Vertex VXR-7000 repeater for 70 cm ham service and planned to hook it up to our site battery backup system (~650 Ah with dedicated charger). However the repeater manual states "Never reapply AC power to the repeater with a discharged battery connected, as the DC startup current can damage the repeater and battery". Does anyone know if the repeater trickle charger can be disabled? The minimal manual included with the repeater doesn't tell. regards, ---per Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. <>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena
Chuck is correct. The 413 is 18 ft 4 inches long and is rated 12 dB gain and rated to survive 1/2 inch ice at 90 mph. The 411 is 9 ft 5 inches long , 9 dB gain 112 mph wind with 1/2 inch radial ice. The 408 is 6.6 dB gain and will survive with 1/2 ice at 85 mph. The 420 is 9.2 dB gain 18 ft 1 inch long and rated to withstand 70 mph with 1/2 inch ice. They are all good in my opinion. I have used them all including the DB-404 and they have survived the NE Ohio winters. even with the 420 top mounted on towers but there is a lot of flex at winds above 60 mph. I never had an antenna bend but did have on installation where the 420 was top mounted and the pipe that it was clamped to bent during a storm with gusts in excess of 70 mph. As far as which antenna to use - It depends on the installation, HAAT, top mount, side mount, omni pattern, etc. Rich WA8DBW http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena > > I think my wife stole my Decibel catalog ;-) > > The 413 is 8 elements and the 411 is 4, right? > > If you're going to side mount on a tower, use either. If you're going to > top > mount, I prefer the shorter 411. The longer antennas have too much flex in > the wind to top mount, in my opinion. Others will disagree, but that would > be my choice. > > Chuck > WB2EDV Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Digests and stuff (THE LATE FRED DEEG?)
Before ya blow yer gasket here is absolute truth .. I have a cousin with same Full name ! only he was born in Ohio & me in Michigan doesn't that really blow your mind ! Mark Holman mark.holman at talkamerica dot net - Original Message - From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Digests and stuff (THE LATE FRED DEEG?) Ya Fred Loyde (I think thats how you spell the webmaster name of QRZ.com) and I had a falling out and I asked him to DE-LIST me. If you click on the FCC info button it will take you to the FCC database on me there you find me located in Santa Monica, CA. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, so sorry to say, he has passed on. > > April QST, Silent Key Column - page 96 ... > > I called his widow Marsha to confirm. > > Todays NewsLine has a writeup on it. > > I have enclosed it for you ... > > > wa6itf wrote: > > > > Amateur Radio NewslineT Report 1441 - March 25th, 2005 > > ... snip ... > > > ** > > > > THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD: FRED DEEG, N6FD - S.K. > > > > Anyone who was licensed in the 1960's and 70's when the first > > off-shore ham gear started to show up in the U-S market may well > > remember the name Fred Deeg and the call sign N6FD. Fred, the former > > K6AEH, was among the very first to represent radio giants like > > Standard, Kokosai and Yaesu. He was responsible for bringing the > > first Standard Radio built ham radio band only 2 meter H-T to the > > United Sates in the late 1960's. And it was during his tenure > > Yaesu that he coined the advertising catch phrase "The Radio." > > This is a term that Yaesu's current parent corporation -- > > Vertex-Standard -- still occasionally uses in some advertising today. > > > > Fred was also an FM and repeater pioneer in the Los Angeles area. > > Back in the 1960's with the Pallisades Amateur Radio Club of Culver > > Citry, he helped to establish the famed 146.61 MHz system that he > > nick-named the "good-guy machine." And in the 1980's he put together > > the Ham Master Tie System which was one of the nations earliest 220 > > MHz interlinked repeater networks. He also helped to organize the > > funding for the California deligation that flew to Washington for the > > meeting that lead the FCC to do away with much of the restrictive > > repeater over-regulation of the middle-1970's. > > > > A few years ago, Fred retired. He and his wife Marsha, WA6CUF, > > retired to Anacortes, Washington where Fred died on Christmas Day, > > 2004, after succumbing to cancer of the esophagus. It was not until > > the curerent issue of QST carried his name and call in the Silent Keys > > column that his friends world-wide learned of his passing. Fred was > > only age 60 and will be missed. (WA6KLA, K7VC, WA6ILQ, others) > > > > ** > > > BTW, I looked you up on www.qrz.com a few minutes ago > "KD6GDB ... Not listed by QRZ" just to see where you are located. > > I was a member of the original Palisades ARC many years ago ... > before I relocated to Oregon in 1976. > > Fred built the original 146.61 MHz in / 147.33 MHz out repeater > (later became the 146.01/146.61 MHz). He built the first repeater > out of Motorola tube receiver and transmitter strips from my garage. > > That was way before the club bought the new (then) Motorola Micor > repeater. > > 73, > > Neil McKie - WA6KLA > > > > Jeff wrote: > > > > Did I read this correctly "The Late Fred Deeg"? I hope not. That's > > weird because over the past three days I have been thinking about him. > > I wondered how he was doing as I have not talked to him in years. I > > looked up N6FD on Goggle and found Fred Deeg and associate out in > > Anacortes, WA (My old stomping grounds).I was surprised to see that he > > had been in business out there for over twenty years now. > > > > I learned almost everything I know about being a "repeater mogul" from > > Fred Deeg. Every Saturday morning I would look forward to the time > > spent at the "Crusty old mans repeater group - My alternate smart-ass > > name for Fred and all of his old friends of the HAMS repeater club" > > (Hilltop Armature Masteries System) at Fred's Garage in Marina Del > > Rey, California. I was a young smart-ass kid with little or no respect > > for him or his group. I didn't even have a ham radio licensee but I > > monitored all of the time and his repeaters sounded so clean. He got > > though to me BIG-TIME by his no BS attitude. They were building the > > new replacement 440 repeater for Saddle Peak. I learned everything > > from those Saturday sessions. I got my ticket and joined his repeater > > club and used that repeater and eventually bought the old Motorola > > Micor that our Saturday sessions work eventually replaced. It included > > my first RC-850 controller I was in heaven. I bought all of his old > > MX-340's as well before he moved up to Washing
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR-7000 battery backup
Wouldn't it be much simpler to charge the battery B4 installing it ? playing safe that way Mark Holmanmark.holman at talkamerica dot net - Original Message - From: Per Molund To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR-7000 battery backup We have recently accuired a Vertex VXR-7000 repeater for 70 cm ham service and planned to hook it up to our site battery backup system (~650 Ah with dedicated charger). However the repeater manual states "Never reapply AC power to the repeater with a discharged battery connected, as the DC startup current can damage the repeater and battery". Does anyone know if the repeater trickle charger can be disabled? The minimal manual included with the repeater doesn't tell.regards,---per Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Enclosure
Also call up the local Telco and ask if they have any repeater, yes they call them repeater enclosures being decommissioned. I got two that way, One was about 4 feet high with fan and heater strips and made of Aluminum. No cost. DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hang around the local electrical company and steal a dual widedistribution panel enclosure, the type with the 2 or 3 doors and about6 feet tall and 2 feet deep. There should be enough room to retrofitsome rack rails in there. TV-2 style. (2X4s painted black andequipment held in place with dry wall screws.)On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:54:55 -0800, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > Hello All> > I've got a job here that amoung other things amounts to putting a 2 meter> repeater and associated support stuff in a weather tite enclosure the base> of a small tower. The enlosure needs to be an industrial strength and> appearing affare big enough to support 2 or maybe a bit more feet of rack> mounted gear, one and maybe two 6 can duplexers ( maybe a second repeater> some day) and all the other stuff that will and may be needed. I have about> 5 feet of available width to work inside of.> > Got any good ideas for me ?> > Thanks much and 73,> > Scott, N6NXI> > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A Good 440 Anttena
Besides, that's a lot of extra aluminum to get 3 dB extra that 95% of the users will never notice. I know, I know, some of you won't agree, that's fine. But that's my story, and I'm sticking to it ;-) Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A Good 440 Anttena > > > Right on the money... the 420 end mounted at the top > of a tower has enough end torque to actually flex a > Rohn 55 section (in a >35mph) quite a bit. Enough > to make me really nervous. > > You can "in-line" the dipoles of a DB-408 per > Decibels information to obtain a sort of colinear > pattern, which is bi-directional to an extent. > > Side mounted, the 420 kicks fanny (a nice way of > saying butt), but you really don't want that much > antenna at the top of a tall skinny tower. > > The DB-411 is a pretty nice 4 dipole unit, it will > give you a nice directional lobe in the desired > direction. It's also a good preformance/gain vs > length antenna. > > cheers, > skipp > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: A Good 440 Anttena
Right on the money... the 420 end mounted at the top of a tower has enough end torque to actually flex a Rohn 55 section (in a >35mph) quite a bit. Enough to make me really nervous. You can "in-line" the dipoles of a DB-408 per Decibels information to obtain a sort of colinear pattern, which is bi-directional to an extent. Side mounted, the 420 kicks fanny (a nice way of saying butt), but you really don't want that much antenna at the top of a tall skinny tower. The DB-411 is a pretty nice 4 dipole unit, it will give you a nice directional lobe in the desired direction. It's also a good preformance/gain vs length antenna. cheers, skipp > "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think my wife stole my Decibel catalog ;-) > > The 413 is 8 elements and the 411 is 4, right? > > If you're going to side mount on a tower, use either. > If you're going to top mount, I prefer the shorter 411. > The longer antennas have too much flex in > the wind to top mount, in my opinion. Others will > disagree, but that would > be my choice. > > Chuck > WB2EDV > > > - Original Message - > From: T.J. > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena > > > What does the list think of the 411 vs. the 413? > I'm using the 408 now but I'm looking to cover into > a one particular direction over the other. > T.J. > KC8LTS > > Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree but lean toward the 408 over the 420. > > Chuck > WB2EDV Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena
I think my wife stole my Decibel catalog ;-) The 413 is 8 elements and the 411 is 4, right? If you're going to side mount on a tower, use either. If you're going to top mount, I prefer the shorter 411. The longer antennas have too much flex in the wind to top mount, in my opinion. Others will disagree, but that would be my choice. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: T.J. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena What does the list think of the 411 vs. the 413? I'm using the 408 now but I'm looking to cover into a one particular direction over the other. T.J. KC8LTS Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree but lean toward the 408 over the 420. Chuck WB2EDV of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena
What does the list think of the 411 vs. the 413? I'm using the 408 now but I'm looking to cover into a one particular direction over the other. T.J. KC8LTSChuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree but lean toward the 408 over the 420.ChuckWB2EDV- Original Message - From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:59 PMSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena> > I would suggest the Decibel Products DB-408 or the> DB-420 antenna.. I have two DB-420's and 11 DB-408 in> service in the 440 band and they all work great.. They> are all the 450-470 mhz model.. Put them up once and> walk away.. > > Leon-N2HLT> > http://www.expage.com/n2hlt> > > --- W8RIF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> >> I am looking for a good anttena for the 440>> repeater. something with a lot >> of gain. any ideas.>> >> W8RIF >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links>> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> >> >> >> >> > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena
I agree but lean toward the 408 over the 420. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena > > I would suggest the Decibel Products DB-408 or the > DB-420 antenna.. I have two DB-420's and 11 DB-408 in > service in the 440 band and they all work great.. They > are all the 450-470 mhz model.. Put them up once and > walk away.. > > Leon-N2HLT > > http://www.expage.com/n2hlt > > > --- W8RIF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I am looking for a good anttena for the 440 >> repeater. something with a lot >> of gain. any ideas. >> >> W8RIF >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T-300 series VHF Repeater - Information Required, Narrow filters inside, want to use standard diviation for Ham Use
Hi there; You have got a T300 Narrowband repeater (12.5 KHz Channel spacing). The IF Filter that you have is for 7.5 KHz bandwidth rather than 15 KHz (Which is for 25 KHz Channel spacing). Unfortunately you have the last of the T355 receiver's and these were double conversion with 21.4 MHz IF's compared to the 10.7 MHz IF's. I may be in a position to get you some 25 KHz T300's as I am aware of some that are being replaced by T800 repeaters if you are interested. We used to go the other way with the older gear and whip in a xtal filter from the old Pye/Philips P135 Falcons to narrowband the RX modules and change some R and C on the food chain. I've grown up with these in NZ so if you need any help dont hesitate to give me a holler :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZL4GB _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or youare not the intended recipient,please return it to the sender and destroy any copies.Thank you. - Original Message - From: Kevin & Natalia To: Repeater Builder Users Group Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T-300 series VHF Repeater - Information Required, Narrow filters inside, want to use standard diviation for Ham Use Hi All, I recently acquired a Tait T-300 VHF repeater unit. Looking at using it in one of our repeater installations. Got everything working, and appeared to be putting out all the correct levels, power etc. However, after a few days, I was advised that the audio seemed to be low on the out put. I went up to the site and checked the audio going into the controller(RLC-3), and this seemed okay. Did not have a deviation meter, so was not able to check the output level, but by ear it sounded okay. Anyway it was still low. Brought the modules down, and opened the modules. This is when I found out that inside the filter had the markings "21F 7.5 D H", which I worked out to be 21.4 IF, and 7.5 deviation. I would like to know if I can somehow make it, so it can be used as one of our ham repeaters? If so, what do I have to do to make this work as needed? And any other info that might be of help? Regards and Thanks Kevin. ZL1KFM. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T-300 series VHF Repeater - Information Required, Narrow filters inside, want to use standard diviation for Ham Use
Hi Kevin, I use a Tait 300 series on my 6m repeater. I have found that although the filter is technically correct for the 12.5KHz spec ( i.e 2.5KHz deviation max ) that few if any Amateur rigs are setup for this correctly out of the box. I have changed the filters in all of mine for 15KHz bandwidth filters. I know the purists will say that my signal to noise ratio is now not as good but it didn't make much difference in reality as 6m is such a noisy band anyhow. However the up side is that now all the users sound great. Before I changed the filter many stations sounded distorted due to the edges of the filter being exceeded by their deviation. Other than that, I have had no difficulty with the Taits at all, and used them for many years in my job as PMR technician. So to summarise, I would say all you needed to do is to change this filter - you might be able to find a filter that is out of something else that will fit as Tait no longer support the 300 series. I approached them to get a 15KHz filter and that's when I found that out! I ended up using a STC filter from a Pye R400 UHF link rx. Check out the pictures on my web site www.gb3fh.org.uk You'll spot the 300's there! Hope this helps. Matt G4RKY - Original Message - From: Kevin & Natalia To: Repeater Builder Users Group Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T-300 series VHF Repeater - Information Required, Narrow filters inside, want to use standard diviation for Ham Use Hi All, I recently acquired a Tait T-300 VHF repeater unit. Looking at using it in one of our repeater installations. Got everything working, and appeared to be putting out all the correct levels, power etc. However, after a few days, I was advised that the audio seemed to be low on the out put. I went up to the site and checked the audio going into the controller(RLC-3), and this seemed okay. Did not have a deviation meter, so was not able to check the output level, but by ear it sounded okay. Anyway it was still low. Brought the modules down, and opened the modules. This is when I found out that inside the filter had the markings "21F 7.5 D H", which I worked out to be 21.4 IF, and 7.5 deviation. I would like to know if I can somehow make it, so it can be used as one of our ham repeaters? If so, what do I have to do to make this work as needed? And any other info that might be of help? Regards and Thanks Kevin. ZL1KFM. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena
I would suggest the Decibel Products DB-408 or the DB-420 antenna.. I have two DB-420's and 11 DB-408 in service in the 440 band and they all work great.. They are all the 450-470 mhz model.. Put them up once and walk away.. Leon-N2HLT http://www.expage.com/n2hlt --- W8RIF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am looking for a good anttena for the 440 > repeater. something with a lot > of gain. any ideas. > > W8RIF > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Tait T-300 series VHF Repeater - Information Required, Narrow filters inside, want to use standard diviation for Ham Use
Hi All, I recently acquired a Tait T-300 VHF repeater unit. Looking at using it in one of our repeater installations. Got everything working, and appeared to be putting out all the correct levels, power etc. However, after a few days, I was advised that the audio seemed to be low on the out put. I went up to the site and checked the audio going into the controller(RLC-3), and this seemed okay. Did not have a deviation meter, so was not able to check the output level, but by ear it sounded okay. Anyway it was still low. Brought the modules down, and opened the modules. This is when I found out that inside the filter had the markings "21F 7.5 D H", which I worked out to be 21.4 IF, and 7.5 deviation. I would like to know if I can somehow make it, so it can be used as one of our ham repeaters? If so, what do I have to do to make this work as needed? And any other info that might be of help? Regards and Thanks Kevin. ZL1KFM. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena
I am looking for a good anttena for the 440 repeater. something with a lot of gain. any ideas. W8RIF Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: mobile duplexers
These type of duplexers are also, only good for about 5MHz split, and will not work in the ham 2M band with a 600Khz split. Dick---N7ZH --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:12 AM 3/28/05, "axe1990" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have what I think is an old vhf mobile phone duplexer. It has four > >cavities. The cavities are marked with three as TX and one as RX. Can > >anyone tell me are these all pass type cavities ? Or could any of them > >be notch type ? This seems to be the common pattern of cavity set- up > >for these mobile phone duplexers. > > > >Thanks > > If it's the kind I'm thinking of it's a notch-only device, and > only works with lower powered TXs. There is absolutely no > pass functionality, thereby allowing any and all nearby RF > complete and free access to the RX front end. This means > that they are only practical at a repeater site unless you > are the only system there. > > The 4-cavity units come in both three-and-one and two-and-two > designs. I've also seen 6-cavity units in four-and-two and > three-and-three arrangements. > > > Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
Thanks for the info. i will try to track them down. Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:49:26 -0500 (EST) > >On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:36:37 -, David A. Robichaux wrote: > >>Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF handie-talkie > >>for commercial use? > >I use one here David, the Yaesu FTH-2070. Built like a >tank, but not small compared to todays smaller rigs. > >There *were* two versions available. The early ones went >from 150-174 and 450-470, and the units like mine went from >136-174 and 420-470. > >They had 32 channels which were not limited to so many >VHF and UHF, so you could have 20 UHF and 10 VHF if you >like. > >I think Ebay will be the only place you will find one. > > > >Tedd Doda, VE3TJD > >Lazer Audio and Electronics >Baden, Ontario, Canada > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >__ >Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com >11:49:28 AM ET - 3/28/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] mobile duplexers
At 10:12 AM 3/28/05, "axe1990" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have what I think is an old vhf mobile phone duplexer. It has four >cavities. The cavities are marked with three as TX and one as RX. Can >anyone tell me are these all pass type cavities ? Or could any of them >be notch type ? This seems to be the common pattern of cavity set-up >for these mobile phone duplexers. > >Thanks If it's the kind I'm thinking of it's a notch-only device, and only works with lower powered TXs. There is absolutely no pass functionality, thereby allowing any and all nearby RF complete and free access to the RX front end. This means that they are only practical at a repeater site unless you are the only system there. The 4-cavity units come in both three-and-one and two-and-two designs. I've also seen 6-cavity units in four-and-two and three-and-three arrangements. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] mobile duplexers
I have what I think is an old vhf mobile phone duplexer. It has four cavities. The cavities are marked with three as TX and one as RX. Can anyone tell me are these all pass type cavities ? Or could any of them be notch type ? This seems to be the common pattern of cavity set-up for these mobile phone duplexers. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola welded rod yagis
Motorhead (Motorola), Cellwave and now RFS make a very strong end-mounted yagi for 450-470 MHz operation. It's all welded Al Rod on a thick ~1" tube. I picked up what measures out to be a 418-420 MHz range version of this same type/style antenna. Anyone have the model number and the specs? ... or a location there-of? Once I ID the yagi, I'll make my drawings available to all (as done with the DB-408 antennas from before) to Mike for posting to the RB Web Page. Thanks for your replies... skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Enclosure
Hang around the local electrical company and steal a dual wide distribution panel enclosure, the type with the 2 or 3 doors and about 6 feet tall and 2 feet deep. There should be enough room to retrofit some rack rails in there. TV-2 style. (2X4s painted black and equipment held in place with dry wall screws.) On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:54:55 -0800, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello All > > I've got a job here that amoung other things amounts to putting a 2 meter > repeater and associated support stuff in a weather tite enclosure the base > of a small tower. The enlosure needs to be an industrial strength and > appearing affare big enough to support 2 or maybe a bit more feet of rack > mounted gear, one and maybe two 6 can duplexers ( maybe a second repeater > some day) and all the other stuff that will and may be needed. I have about > 5 feet of available width to work inside of. > > Got any good ideas for me ? > > Thanks much and 73, > > Scott, N6NXI > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Enclosure
Hello All I've got a job here that amoung other things amounts to putting a 2 meter repeater and associated support stuff in a weather tite enclosure the base of a small tower. The enlosure needs to be an industrial strength and appearing affare big enough to support 2 or maybe a bit more feet of rack mounted gear, one and maybe two 6 can duplexers ( maybe a second repeater some day) and all the other stuff that will and may be needed. I have about 5 feet of available width to work inside of. Got any good ideas for me ? Thanks much and 73, Scott, N6NXI Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
The AT-600 was programable in the 2m/440 range as well as commercial and gmrs bands. It could be opened up well beyond that...of course then type acceptance probably goes outthe window. The HTX-204 was based on the AT-600 but only has a subset of the menu functionality that the AT-600 has. The case is similar and batteries are interchangable although the differences in the case make the batteries look mismatched. The HTX-204 also could be opened way up and that is why it was pulled from sale a couple of weeks after it hit the shelves. You can probably find wither on ebay. 73, Jon KD5SFA -Original Message- From: David Robichaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 28, 2005 10:41 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie Thanks for the reply. I'll try to track it down! Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:08:52 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > >At one time ADI/Pryme had one...the AT-600 aka the HTX-204 (not quite >as versatile sold very >briefly by Radioshack). > >73, >Jon >KD5SFA > >-Original Message- >From: Maire Company <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Mar 28, 2005 9:28 AM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > >at one time Vertex had one but not sure if it still made. >don't see it in there price book anymore. > > >- Original Message - >From: "David A. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:36 AM >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > >> >> >> >> Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF >handie-talkie >> for commercial use? >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >__ >Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com >11:08:57 AM ET - 3/28/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:36:37 -, David A. Robichaux wrote: >Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF handie-talkie >for commercial use? I use one here David, the Yaesu FTH-2070. Built like a tank, but not small compared to todays smaller rigs. There *were* two versions available. The early ones went from 150-174 and 450-470, and the units like mine went from 136-174 and 420-470. They had 32 channels which were not limited to so many VHF and UHF, so you could have 20 UHF and 10 VHF if you like. I think Ebay will be the only place you will find one. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
Thanks for the reply. I'll try to track it down! Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:08:52 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > >At one time ADI/Pryme had one...the AT-600 aka the HTX-204 (not quite >as versatile sold very >briefly by Radioshack). > >73, >Jon >KD5SFA > >-Original Message- >From: Maire Company <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Mar 28, 2005 9:28 AM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > >at one time Vertex had one but not sure if it still made. >don't see it in there price book anymore. > > >- Original Message - >From: "David A. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:36 AM >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > >> >> >> >> Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF >handie-talkie >> for commercial use? >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >__ >Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com >11:08:57 AM ET - 3/28/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
Thanks! i looked at their web site too and couldn't find anything. Thanks for your reply. Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:28:38 -0500 > >at one time Vertex had one but not sure if it still made. >don't see it in there price book anymore. > > >- Original Message - >From: "David A. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:36 AM >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > >> >> >> >> Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF >handie-talkie >> for commercial use? >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >__ >Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com >10:28:53 AM ET - 3/28/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
yaesu made a dual band commercial it is a model 2070 it is no longer made but can still be had off e bay and they go for a couple of hunderd some shops have the software and the interface for it but check first before investing in one. good luck .bob ___ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
At one time ADI/Pryme had one...the AT-600 aka the HTX-204 (not quite as versatile sold very briefly by Radioshack). 73, Jon KD5SFA -Original Message- From: Maire Company <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 28, 2005 9:28 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie at one time Vertex had one but not sure if it still made. don't see it in there price book anymore. - Original Message - From: "David A. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF handie-talkie > for commercial use? > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
at one time Vertex had one but not sure if it still made. don't see it in there price book anymore. - Original Message - From: "David A. Robichaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie > > > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF handie-talkie > for commercial use? > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Dual Band Handie Talkie
Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a VHF-UHF handie-talkie for commercial use? Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater builders
The Palisades ARC Micor repeater was purchased from Motorola as brand new item shipped from the factory. motarolla_doctor wrote: > > "> That was way before the club bought the new (then) Motorola Micor > > repeater. > > 73, Neil McKie - WA6KLA " > > The Palasades Club's new Micor repater on Hollwood Hills, the one I > helped to build. I still remember that project, the late Walt > Bronstien was just learning to spell R A D I O !! Walter worked on Micor radios later on - as he worked for a federal agency if you remember. I met Walter during the late fifties - he was the one who got me interested in Amateur radio. > "Tick was there, as well as the Master, Neil. > I learned from some of the great masters how to build good repeaters. > > Will from the hill Neil - in central, Oregon Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater builders
"> That was way before the club bought the new (then) Motorola Micor > repeater. > 73, Neil McKie - WA6KLA " The Palasades Club's new Micor repater on Hollwood Hills, the one I helped to build. I still remember that project, the late Walt Bronstien was just learning to spell R A D I O !! "Tick was there, as well as the Master, Neil. I learned from some of the great masters how to build good repeaters. Will from the hill Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/