Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS decode/DTMF tone problem
See if it does the same thing with another radio that has a built in decoder. Make sure the repeater isn't muting tones, or muting PL on reception of DTMF. Make sure the repeater PL input is directly on the modulator, and not at a previous stage where it could be getting clipped or limited in the presence of a strong tone. Test to see if whistling will cause the same problem as dtmf. Joe --- Paul Holm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm working on adding Echolink to our 2M machine (pl > 146.2) here and am using a Kenwood TM-241 for a link > radio. This rig does not have PL decode so we added > an outboard Transcendient CDC-01 decoder board. > Using the RX out pin off of the mic connector for > discriminator tap. PL decode works great except > when DTMF tones are sent through the repeater. As > soon as DTMF is sent, audio from the decoder drops > out. This is not happening when testing on a > simplex frequency, only when sending DTMF tones > through the repeater. Any ideas about what's > happening? Thanks. > > Paul - KCØHST Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas??
Got anything single band 2 Meter? On 5/19/05, Scott Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon, > > That's correct. They are 2 and 3 pieces that screw together with a bell type > furrel. Unlike most ham grade antennas though, the bell is oriented properly > to keep the water out. > > Scott Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Extra Dayton Ticket Available
Fellows, I have 1 extra ticket to the Dayton Hamvention starting tomorrow. The first person to offer $25 for it gets it. That's the same as it would cost you at the door, without having to stand in line for hours. Please Reply direct to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas??
Jon, That's correct. They are 2 and 3 pieces that screw together with a bell type furrel. Unlike most ham grade antennas though, the bell is oriented properly to keep the water out. Scott -Original Message- From: KD5SFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 19, 2005 12:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas?? The specs and size remonds me of the opek uvs-200 and uvs-300. Similar models exist from greaterland...basically made in Taiwan if I recall correctly. Do these come as 2 and 3 piece units such that you have to connect internals before you attach the sections together ? 73, Jon KD5SFA -Original Message- From: Dennis Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 19, 2005 10:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas?? Just Wondering; I may have missed it somewhere, but what is the difference between the antennas RB sell and Diamond/Comet type anteenas? Are they a true DC grounded antenna??? Curious Minds Want to Know; TNX in advance, U guys have fun in Dayton, Dennis ki5fw Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater hardware
Certain NHRC controllers will function as a simplex controller, but you will need a control opertor to be FCC legal. Radio Shack also made a simplex controller no frills controller in the $60 range. On 5/19/05, Joe Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The frequency response of a 2 way communications system is well within the > frequency response of one of the 8 KHz sample rate ChipCorders. The only > decision would be to select the longest possible message time. The ISD1416 > gets you 16 seconds, the ISD2560 gets you 60 seconds. Both of these are > probably available through Digikey. > > Joe Jarrett K5FOG > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 5/19/2005 at 7:45 AM Don Pomplun wrote: > I wonder if those ISD audio record/playback chips are a reasonable approach > for a simplex repeater. (I know there are those who insist on FM Broadcast > quality, but for communication in a noisy environment like a railroad, it > doesn't seem an issue). > 73, > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] CTCSS decode/DTMF tone problem
I'm working on adding Echolink to our 2M machine (pl 146.2) here and am using a Kenwood TM-241 for a link radio. This rig does not have PL decode so we added an outboard Transcendient CDC-01 decoder board. Using the RX out pin off of the mic connector for discriminator tap. PL decode works great except when DTMF tones are sent through the repeater. As soon as DTMF is sent, audio from the decoder drops out. This is not happening when testing on a simplex frequency, only when sending DTMF tones through the repeater. Any ideas about what's happening? Thanks. Paul - KCØHST Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
At 06:26 AM 5/19/05, you wrote: > >Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death > >Valley). $3.12 for regular. > >Ow! They were always high, but 1.5x NA?! That's highway robbery! Where else are you going to go? Kinda like Ludlow and Newberry Springs... the one restaurant in town has a monopoly on all the Highway 40 traffic... Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater hardware
The frequency response of a 2 way communications system is well within the frequency response of one of the 8 KHz sample rate ChipCorders. The only decision would be to select the longest possible message time. The ISD1416 gets you 16 seconds, the ISD2560 gets you 60 seconds. Both of these are probably available through Digikey. Joe Jarrett K5FOG *** REPLY SEPARATOR ***On 5/19/2005 at 7:45 AM Don Pomplun wrote: I wonder if those ISD audio record/playback chips are a reasonable approach for a simplex repeater. (I know there are those who insist on FM Broadcast quality, but for communication in a noisy environment like a railroad, it doesn't seem an issue).73,Don Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
For the record, $1.89 this morning, and $2.05 this afternoon. Imagine that! Joe M. (From DAYTON!) Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer & Industrial) wrote: > > $1.86 for regular less than a mile from my home (for the last two days) > May have changed by the time I get home today, though. > > Kenneth Buley > Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 > Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 > Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES > > "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who > in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of no6b1 > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:18 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote: > > > > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise > > > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging or > anything. > > > > > ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now! > > > > regular is hovering around $2 here. > > Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12 > for regular. > > Bob NO6B > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Want to buy Repeater Controller
I have a Scom 7K it has autopatch, it talks and has cw Id's. 2 and a half port s and rack mount it does not have built in PL I use ComSpec for the PL. Contac me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73 Russ, - Original Message - From: "Ed Gage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Want to buy Repeater Controller > Prefer SCOM, but open to other suggestions. Ideally the controller > would cost $200 or less. > > Needed features: > - CWID / voice ID (would be sweet, but will settle for CW) > - LINKS to multiple half/full duplex repeaters (maybe control 2 or 3 > repeaters) > - Built-in CTCSS encode/decode > - Remote-programmable > - Macros > - Switch sensors to broadcast alerts (door open, fan dead, security, > etc.) > - Adjustable squelch tail for COS, and CTCSS > - Small footprint > > I've looked at several brands, but can't decide which one would > provide the best service. I'm building a 2M event repeater. > > Anybody got used SCOM/5K /7K they'd be willing to part with? > > N0TVQ > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood stuff
Hey Jed, You mite want to drop Dean Westbrook a e-mail he just removed the one he has(TKR-820 on GMRS) and up graded it to a full time (NEW) 50 watt unit. Last I heard he had not sold it yet and he is going to Dayton. 73 Russ - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood stuff > Hey guys, > Anyone know of people getting rid of TK820s at Dayton or where to find > them? > That's what I'm in the market for for running a GMRS box. > Ideas of where to find? > Thanks, > Jed > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
Icom 2720 as well Jamey Wright Systems Analyst Morgan County EMCD 911 Decatur, Al 256-552-0911 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:20 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones) The RadioShack HTX-212 and HTX-242 could also do split tones as well as the Icom 706MKIIG. My Vertex VX-10's as well has the capability to have split PL tones if needed. Mathew "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Lemmon wrote: > Fellas, > > Please re-read my posting. My statement was concerning the ability > of a radio to encode one CTCSS tone and decode a different CTCSS > tone. I have a number of Icom, Alinco, and Yaesu radios which can > only be programmed for ONE tone per channel, and the same tone is > used for both TX and RX. Even the Motorola HT220 radio could only > have one PL tone. > > I did not state that NO Amateur-grade radio could have different > tones for TX and RX. I merely commented that this capability is > uncommon in recent designs. Perhaps in the future it will be a > standard feature, along with dual-format reverse burst and adjustable > CTCSS deviation. > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Right-so far the only ham rig I've seen that can do split tones is the last of the Azden radios. I have a 6M version, and it can do it, since it programs like a commercial rig, just from the front panel. In fact, in other countries where type-acceptance isn't an issue, I'm pretty sure they sold the exact same radio into commercial service. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
The RadioShack HTX-212 and HTX-242 could also do split tones as well as the Icom 706MKIIG. My Vertex VX-10's as well has the capability to have split PL tones if needed. Mathew "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Lemmon wrote:> Fellas,> > Please re-read my posting. My statement was concerning the ability> of a radio to encode one CTCSS tone and decode a different CTCSS> tone. I have a number of Icom, Alinco, and Yaesu radios which can> only be programmed for ONE tone per channel, and the same tone is> used for both TX and RX. Even the Motorola HT220 radio could only> have one PL tone.> > I did not state that NO Amateur-grade radio could have different> tones for TX and RX. I merely commented that this capability is> uncommon in recent designs. Perhaps in the future it will be a> standard feature, along with dual-format reverse burst and adjustable> CTCSS deviation.> > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLYRight-so far the only ham rig I've seen that can do split tones is the last of the Azden radios. I have a 6M version, and it can do it, since it programs like a commercial rig, just from the front panel. In fact, in other countries where type-acceptance isn't an issue, I'm pretty sure they sold the exact same radio into commercial service.-- Jim BarbourWD8CHLYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas??
The specs and size remonds me of the opek uvs-200 and uvs-300. Similar models exist from greaterland...basically made in Taiwan if I recall correctly. Do these come as 2 and 3 piece units such that you have to connect internals before you attach the sections together ? 73, Jon KD5SFA -Original Message- From: Dennis Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 19, 2005 10:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas?? Just Wondering; I may have missed it somewhere, but what is the difference between the antennas RB sell and Diamond/Comet type anteenas? Are they a true DC grounded antenna??? Curious Minds Want to Know; TNX in advance, U guys have fun in Dayton, Dennis ki5fw Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater hardware
I wonder if those ISD audio record/playback chips are a reasonable approach for a simplex repeater. (I know there are those who insist on FM Broadcast quality, but for communication in a noisy environment like a railroad, it doesn't seem an issue). 73, Don Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
Eric Lemmon wrote: > Fellas, > > Please re-read my posting. My statement was concerning the ability > of a radio to encode one CTCSS tone and decode a different CTCSS > tone. I have a number of Icom, Alinco, and Yaesu radios which can > only be programmed for ONE tone per channel, and the same tone is > used for both TX and RX. Even the Motorola HT220 radio could only > have one PL tone. > > I did not state that NO Amateur-grade radio could have different > tones for TX and RX. I merely commented that this capability is > uncommon in recent designs. Perhaps in the future it will be a > standard feature, along with dual-format reverse burst and adjustable > CTCSS deviation. > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Right-so far the only ham rig I've seen that can do split tones is the last of the Azden radios. I have a 6M version, and it can do it, since it programs like a commercial rig, just from the front panel. In fact, in other countries where type-acceptance isn't an issue, I'm pretty sure they sold the exact same radio into commercial service. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas??
The specs and size remonds me of the opek uvs-200 and uvs-300. Similar models exist from greaterland...basically made in Taiwan if I recall correctly. Do these come as 2 and 3 piece units such that you have to connect internals before you attach the sections together ? 73, Jon KD5SFA -Original Message- From: Dennis Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 19, 2005 10:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas?? Just Wondering; I may have missed it somewhere, but what is the difference between the antennas RB sell and Diamond/Comet type anteenas? Are they a true DC grounded antenna??? Curious Minds Want to Know; TNX in advance, U guys have fun in Dayton, Dennis ki5fw Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
Fellas, Please re-read my posting. My statement was concerning the ability of a radio to encode one CTCSS tone and decode a different CTCSS tone. I have a number of Icom, Alinco, and Yaesu radios which can only be programmed for ONE tone per channel, and the same tone is used for both TX and RX. Even the Motorola HT220 radio could only have one PL tone. I did not state that NO Amateur-grade radio could have different tones for TX and RX. I merely commented that this capability is uncommon in recent designs. Perhaps in the future it will be a standard feature, along with dual-format reverse burst and adjustable CTCSS deviation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
At 09:57 AM 5/19/2005, Neil McKie wrote: >Ed Gage wrote: > > >try > > and buy repeater controllers, unless you happen to be in Dayton!) > > Unless you seriously read the FCC rules ... then make your decision. Nothing like a vague and cryptic statement with dark allusions to add to the meat of the discussion... What's this all about? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
I would expect that Dayton attendance will be down significantly again this year, much more than the last few years due to the increased gas prices. LJ -Original Message- From: Larry Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: May 19, 2005 5:14 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list $1.99 here in good ol WV Larry, N8RDTno6b1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote:> > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote:> > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise> > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging oranything.> >> ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now!> > regular is hovering around $2 here.Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12for regular.Bob NO6BYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas??
Just Wondering; I may have missed it somewhere, but what is the difference between the antennas RB sell and Diamond/Comet type anteenas? Are they a true DC grounded antenna??? Curious Minds Want to Know; TNX in advance, U guys have fun in Dayton, Dennis ki5fw Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
Ed Gage wrote: > try > and buy repeater controllers, unless you happen to be in Dayton!) Unless you seriously read the FCC rules ... then make your decision. > ;-) > > N0TVQ Neil McKie - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater
Yeah, but it was deteced by LC circuits & 6SN7 op-amps, and generated by MG sets ;=) At 03:36 AM 5/19/2005 -0700, you wrote: We had 'PL' capability 35 years ago and were using it then. Neil - WA6KLA Don Pomplun wrote: > > You say "NOT often found in amateur radios". My recollection . . . Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater hardware
A simplex repeater controller connected to a radio set for split operation (different TX and RX freqs) CAN eliminate the problem of hearing everything twice, at the expense of being careful not to "double" on the input freq. and having a delay between RX and TX. HTs or mobiles programmed reverse split of "repeater" radio will operate somewhat like a regular repeater, without the simultaneous RX/TX. Kenneth Buley Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:19 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater hardware > > Not every radio user appreciates a simplex repeater, since all listeners > hear every transmission twice. That gets old, really quick! >True, but there are instances where a SR makes sense. Quick deployment for low >volume comms is >one. Rescue ops, public service events, etc... >Training BEFOREHAND is always recommended so that the users can become >accustomed to its odd >behavior. PL is also recommended to keep the SR from repeating everything on >the frequency and >annoying co-channel users. >- Rob Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
> >Anybody got used SCOM/5K /7K they'd be willing to part with?
>
> Bob is working on the 7330 that will be a true 3-port controller.
> Any combination of three repeaters and remote bases and links...
> Yes, that means that you could have nine separate courtesy
> beeps to program
>
Bob ("Hi Fibo!") and I talk a-lot. We eyeball about once a month at a
club meeting in Fort Collins. He's about a 40-minute drive from my
place. I've seen the factory and the lab, and even helped with some
of the assembly of the 7K product. Our club uses them for local
repeaters. I have been impressed with the functionality and features
of S-COM. I am looking forward to the 7330 and its siblings in the
near future.
Meantime, I'm still exploring the possibilties. I think I bug Bob at
least once every other week to see if anybody's traded up...
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[Repeater-Builder] Store and Forward - split tones...
Using a different tone in and out will help with hearing transmissions twice, but the user will still have to get accustomed to the delay. ssb Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
> >Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death >Valley). $3.12 for regular. Ow! They were always high, but 1.5x NA?! That's highway robbery! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater hardware
> > Not every radio user appreciates a simplex repeater, since all listeners > hear every transmission twice. That gets old, really quick! True, but there are instances where a SR makes sense. Quick deployment for low volume comms is one. Rescue ops, public service events, etc... Training BEFOREHAND is always recommended so that the users can become accustomed to its odd behavior. PL is also recommended to keep the SR from repeating everything on the frequency and annoying co-channel users. - Rob Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
I am glad to see Ken on the group. I studied his products a long time on the web. He's probably got the most bang for the buck, and I DO have some experience with the soldering iron, but the disclaimers in his manual scared me a bit. It is worth the additional $100 for peace of mind by having the whole board built for you. One cold solder joint can ruin a ham's day. If I could eek out another $100 for this project... Have fun at Dayton! Seems everybody's there. (Not a good time to try and buy repeater controllers, unless you happen to be in Dayton!) ;-) N0TVQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hotline 007
Due to the lack of response I am going to guess that this is a dead issue. Thank you for the bandwidth and consideration. If anyone thinks of anything or can refer me to another resource please let me know. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. No I will not be attending Dayton, but y'all have a good time. 73 Tim KD5CKP --- Tim Billingsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone familiar with the "Hotline 007" Phone patch or know where to > acquire documentation on this item? > > I have been unable to find anything about it online or even able to > identify the manufacturer. I know that it was made in Japan, but other > than that I am coming up empty. I did locate this image of a MK III > http://83.103.43.194/motoepoca/fotoborra/7650.jpg listed on this page > http://www.motoepocaweb.it/index.php?mod=none_Elenco_terza_vendita. > > The one I have must be an older version as it only says Hotline 007. > > Thanks for any information you can offer. > > Tim > > Tim Billingsley, KD5CKP > http://www.qsl.net/kd5ckp/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
I just had to reply to this thread. I live here in Canada and the price of gas here is 88.3 cents per quarte and times this by 4 would ammount to $3.88 a gallon. now add the exchange and this is what we have to pay for our pleausre.. Ray VE5RAE - Original Message - From: Larry Rowe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list $1.99 here in good ol WV Larry, N8RDTno6b1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote:> > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote:> > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise> > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging oranything.> >> ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now!> > regular is hovering around $2 here.Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12for regular.Bob NO6BYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
$1.99 here in good ol WV Larry, N8RDTno6b1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote:> > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote:> > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise> > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging oranything.> >> ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now!> > regular is hovering around $2 here.Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12for regular.Bob NO6BYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
$1.86 for regular less than a mile from my home (for the last two days) May have changed by the time I get home today, though. Kenneth Buley Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of no6b1 Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:18 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote: > > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise > > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging or anything. > > > ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now! > > regular is hovering around $2 here. Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12 for regular. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote: > > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise > > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging or anything. > > > ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now! > > regular is hovering around $2 here. Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12 for regular. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater
We had 'PL' capability 35 years ago and were using it then. Neil - WA6KLA Don Pomplun wrote: > > You say "NOT often found in amateur radios". My recollection of the > history is that way back when there was no PL capability; this was > followed by transmitting 100 Hz PL; then programmable PL xmit; and now > I see many more radios capable of PL encode AND decode. > Our situation is that we have small local workgroups who need to > converse locally, and occasionally chat with everybody in all groups. > If I thought about it, I could probably figure out a "best way" to > arrange this with simplex & separate T&R freqs, and different PLs. > However, it might be too complicated for the average user to deal > with. > 73, > Don > > At 09:00 PM 5/18/2005 -0700, you wrote: > > > Don, > > > > You're absolutely correct. I was using the term "simplex" in the > > sense > > of TX and RX on the same frequency. Although certainly not a > > universal > > definition, the term "half duplex" is often used to describe TX and > > RX > > on two different frequencies but not simultaneously. Some might > > consider that practice to be wasteful of spectrum. > > > > Perhaps a more efficient alternative is to configure the simplex > > repeater radio to use different CTCSS tones for TX and RX. The user > > radios must, of course, be capable of encoding and decoding > > different > > tones, but that capability is not often found in Amateur grade > > radios. > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > Don Pomplun wrote: > > > > > I agree that hearing everything twice would get old quickly. > > > What's wrong with this: The simplex repeater box listens on one > > freq, > > > then retransmits on another. Everybody hears each transmission > > only > > > once, albeit with a delay. > > > Isn't the main advantage that of avoided cost? > > > > > > > > > At 07:38 PM 5/18/2005 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >> The Zetron 19B "Simplexor" was the only simplex repeater that > > seemed > > >> to > > >> work properly, since it was designed for public-safety > > application, > > >> primarily for forwarding 2-tone sequential paging signals > > followed > > >> by a > > >> voice message. The 19B could be set to repeat the tones and > > message > > >> a > > >> certain number of times. Best of all, it was designed to plug > > into > > >> most > > >> Motorola and Kenwood commercial radios, and the voice quality was > > >> excellent. I use the word "was" for a reason; the 19B Simplexor > > was > > >> > > >> discontinued a year or so ago. > > >> > > >> Not every radio user appreciates a simplex repeater, since all > > >> listeners > > >> hear every transmission twice. That gets old, really quick! > > >> > > >> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >* To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > > > > >* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > --- > Yahoo! Groups Links > >* To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > >* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
