Re: [Repeater-Builder] polyphaser Help
I hope they used conductive grease on the joint.;-) mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually saw an install where a MSS did just that - they had the ground connected to a plastic water pipe! Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] polyphaser Help
Paul Yonge wrote: On Dec 30, 2005, at 7:29 PM, Kevin Custer wrote: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/staticbusterorder.html Solves more than lightning problems... Kevin - It sounds good. I'll probably have two mirror-mounted antennas because of the height of the Sprinter van - one on the GMRS simplex repeater and one for a 2-meter transceiver (or, possibly, repeater). For the price, it can't do any harm. Paul Scott and I have used them on our mobile antennas with some success. It reduces the corona and static when moving as the tires are conductive enough for it to work. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II UHF Receiver
Jim- try Brocomm in Burlington Ontario,formerly Spantek.They usually have lots of gear in that freq. range. Best 73 Jerry VE3 EXT Windsor Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] polyphaser Help
Dick wrote: Kevin: The StaticBuster is similar to the little static discharge wicks used on aircraft to dissipate the static charge built up during flight. They work. Dick Hi Dick, Yes they do. The device is exactly the same as the wicks used on aircraft without flight cert/auth. Kevin YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II UHF Receiver
Thanks Jerry, will give them a call on tues. Tried to call them and their closed until the 2nd of January. 73's Jim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II UHF Receiver Jim- try Brocomm in Burlington Ontario,formerly Spantek.They usually have lots of gear in that freq. range. Best 73 Jerry VE3 EXT Windsor Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] polyphaser Help
I actually saw an install where a MSS did just that - they had the ground connected to a plastic water pipe! Joe M. I've got a better one. A number of years ago we changed out a 1500' run of 4 Heliax that had gone bad on an FM station. Upon taking down the old line and looking at the damage, one of the problems we found was that the ground kits (approximately 8) were all installed without removing the outer jacket from the cable... --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question
Hi Rod, That antenna we started using for our Passport system here in Oregon and had many problems with the antenna. It will eventually fail you. We use exclusively the Telewave ANT150D antenna have had NO problems. Mike Oregon Repeater Linking Group Mike Mullarkey -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question Hello to the list. Has anyone used or using the MFB1503 Series antenna as a repeater antenna? If so, what do you think of it? This will be for 2 meter use, at about 3,200' here in Washington state; will get ice and snow build up. Any comments? Thank you. Rod Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: polyphaser Help
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, TGundo 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stupid question: what about the ground on your power supply? Do you cut that pin off to seporate your gear from the electrical system ground? I didn't. If you have a seporate ground system and you still have a tie to the electrical ground you have two different potentials meeting at your gear. Besides the ovious dangers, you could have several volts difference being created on your ground potentially causing other fun problems. Tom, are you asking--SHOULD you cut off the 3rd pin on your AC plug? No, you do not. From a safety standpoint, a big no. I can explain further if you like. As far as building tops, I put quality surge arrestors on ALL wires/cables leading in or out of the cabinet, and mount the arrestors on a separate single-point ground plate or bar. Ground the plate to building structural steel with one or more heavy 6AWG cables, and bond the equipment cabinet to the plate. That's the simple version... Happy New Year! Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help)
Jeff, How does 4 Heliax go bad? If the feedline was properly installed and pressurized, what else besides a bullet hole would prompt the removal of that cable? That size Heliax is probably $40 per foot, plus the labor...Geez! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY snip I've got a better one. A number of years ago we changed out a 1500' run of 4 Heliax that had gone bad on an FM station. Upon taking down the old line and looking at the damage, one of the problems we found was that the ground kits (approximately 8) were all installed without removing the outer jacket from the cable... --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help)
I've seen 6 hardline go bad at an FM broadcast site. Brand new feedline, defective or contaminated insulators between the center conductor and the outer conductor. Total meltdown occured inside the feedline. Joe Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, How does 4 Heliax go bad? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help)
Joe, was it pressurized? Dick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December, 2005 09:26 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help) I've seen 6 hardline go bad at an FM broadcast site. Brand new feedline, defective or contaminated insulators between the center conductor and the outer conductor. Total meltdown occured inside the feedline. Joe Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, How does 4 Heliax go bad? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: polyphaser Help
Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, TGundo 2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Stupid question: what about the ground on your power supply? Doyou cut that pin off to seporate your gear from the electrical systemground? I didn't. If you have a seporate ground system and you stillhave a tie to the electrical ground you have two different potentialsmeeting at your gear. Besides the ovious dangers, you could haveseveral volts difference being created on your ground potentiallycausing other fun problems.Tom, are you asking--SHOULD you cut off the 3rd pin on your AC plug? No, you do not. From a safety standpoint, a big no. I can explainfurther if you like.I was being sarcastic, I know better! :)As far as building tops, I put quality surge arrestors on ALLwires/cables leading in or out of the cabinet, and mount the arrestorson a separate single-point ground plate or bar. Ground the plate tobuilding structural steel with one or more heavy 6AWG cables, andbond the equipment cabinet to the plate. That's the simple version...I have done it very similar at a building site. Good Install! Happy New Year!You too! Tom, W9SRVLaryn K8TVZYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help)
They grow BIG rats, there! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, How does 4 Heliax go bad? If the feedline was properly installed and pressurized, what else besides a bullet hole would prompt the removal of that cable? That size Heliax is probably $40 per foot, plus the labor...Geez! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY snip I've got a better one. A number of years ago we changed out a 1500' run of 4 Heliax that had gone bad on an FM station. Upon taking down the old line and looking at the damage, one of the problems we found was that the ground kits (approximately 8) were all installed without removing the outer jacket from the cable... --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help)
Yes At 09:30 AM 12/31/2005 -0800, you wrote: Joe, was it pressurized? Dick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December, 2005 09:26 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help) I've seen 6 hardline go bad at an FM broadcast site. Brand new feedline, defective or contaminated insulators between the center conductor and the outer conductor. Total meltdown occured inside the feedline. Joe Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help)
I've seen the same thing with 3 5/8 or whatever that size is. I figure it was high SWR combined with something else, but it actually burned it about 40' up the tower as the 'technician' was tuning the transmitter. We later climbed up, cut it off above the bad spot, installed a coupling (monster piece of hardware) and replaced the feedline from there down into the building. It was pressured with dry air. It was an interesting site to watch...I was beginning to ponder how we were going to put the damn fire out when the plastic jacket melted enough to drip off the heliax and things calmed down (when the RF was taken away). 73 N7HQR -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:39 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help) Yes At 09:30 AM 12/31/2005 -0800, you wrote: Joe, was it pressurized? Dick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December, 2005 09:26 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad 4 Heliax (Was Polyphaser Help) I've seen 6 hardline go bad at an FM broadcast site. Brand new feedline, defective or contaminated insulators between the center conductor and the outer conductor. Total meltdown occured inside the feedline. Joe Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] TC4049BP Buffer COR inverter
Has anyone used the TC4049BP hex buffer converter chipas an alternative to open collector NPN transistor COR inverters. I'm curious because we use such a chip with our RLC-4 controller and it works flawlessly. This chip has 6 input/outputs with a reference common voltage. There is another chip which is a buffer and it is ideal when the COR voltage requirement is higher than can be supplied by the radio COR circuit. The chip number is TC4050BP. Of course a TC4049BP can be used as a buffer by hooking up 2 input ouputs in series.Here is the pinout:Pin 1 ref voltage up to 20Vcc. Pin 8 Ground ref. Pin 3 input / pin 2 output. Pin 5 input / pin 4 output. Pin 7 input / pin 6 output. Pin 9 input/ pin 10 output. Pin 11 input /pin 12 output. Pin 14 input / pin 15 output. Pin 13 and 16 no connection. Happy new year everyone. Bruno VE2VK/KD1XG. VE2RVK voting repeater system. 146.865mhz- 141.3hz. Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TC4049BP Buffer COR inverter
The IC you speak of is a standard, run-of-the-mill CD4049 CMOS hex inverter and the 4050 is a standard CMOS hex NON-inverting buffer. The TCP prefix just means they're made in Japan :-) Both of these ICs have been around for 30+ years and is fairly old technology. But what the heck, they work fine! Then again, why use a whole 14 pin dip package device when a single NPN transistor and 2 resistors will do the same thing? (ok, in the case of the 4050, it takes 2 transistors!) Ken At 12:22 PM 12/31/2005 -0800, you wrote: Has anyone used the TC4049BP hex buffer converter chip as an alternative to open collector NPN transistor COR inverters. I'm curious because we use such a chip with our RLC-4 controller and it works flawlessly. This chip has 6 input/outputs with a reference common voltage. There is another chip which is a buffer and it is ideal when the COR voltage requirement is higher than can be supplied by the radio COR circuit. The chip number is TC4050BP. Of course a TC4049BP can be used as a buffer by hooking up 2 input ouputs in series. Here is the pinout: Pin 1 ref voltage up to 20Vcc. Pin 8 Ground ref. Pin 3 input / pin 2 output. Pin 5 input / pin 4 output. Pin 7 input / pin 6 output. Pin 9 input / pin 10 output. Pin 11 input / pin 12 output. Pin 14 input / pin 15 output. Pin 13 and 16 no connection.Happy new year everyone. Bruno VE2VK/KD1XG. VE2RVK voting repeater system. 146.865mhz- 141.3hz. Yahoo! for Good - http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/charity/*http://brand.yahoo.com/cyb ergivingweek2005/Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-BuilderRepeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rep [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] polyphaser Help
Well, that's one way to ensure a watertight seal. ;- Joe M. Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote: I actually saw an install where a MSS did just that - they had the ground connected to a plastic water pipe! Joe M. I've got a better one. A number of years ago we changed out a 1500' run of 4 Heliax that had gone bad on an FM station. Upon taking down the old line and looking at the damage, one of the problems we found was that the ground kits (approximately 8) were all installed without removing the outer jacket from the cable... --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: TC4049BP Buffer COR inverter
Right Ken, You're question of WHY would anyone use a chip when a transistor an one or two resistors would do is a good one. the only answer that I can think of is that the person using it doesn't know how to do it with transistors. Actually with a EXEC II and MVP (and likely the MASTR II) you don't even need the transistor in the base because they have a 10K to +10v that is floating when the radio is unsquelched and pulled to ground with a NPN when it is squelched. 73 AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IC you speak of is a standard, run-of-the-mill CD4049 CMOS hex inverter and the 4050 is a standard CMOS hex NON-inverting buffer. The TCP prefix just means they're made in Japan :-) Both of these ICs have been around for 30+ years and is fairly old technology. But what the heck, they work fine! Then again, why use a whole 14 pin dip package device when a single NPN transistor and 2 resistors will do the same thing? (ok, in the case of the 4050, it takes 2 transistors!) Ken At 12:22 PM 12/31/2005 -0800, you wrote: Has anyone used the TC4049BP hex buffer converter chip as an alternative to open collector NPN transistor COR inverters. I'm curious because we use such a chip with our RLC-4 controller and it works flawlessly. This chip has 6 input/outputs with a reference common voltage. There is another chip which is a buffer and it is ideal when the COR voltage requirement is higher than can be supplied by the radio COR circuit. The chip number is TC4050BP. Of course a TC4049BP can be used as a buffer by hooking up 2 input ouputs in series. Here is the pinout: Pin 1 ref voltage up to 20Vcc. Pin 8 Ground ref. Pin 3 input / pin 2 output. Pin 5 input / pin 4 output. Pin 7 input / pin 6 output. Pin 9 input / pin 10 output. Pin 11 input / pin 12 output. Pin 14 input / pin 15 output. Pin 13 and 16 no connection.Happy new year everyone. Bruno VE2VK/KD1XG. VE2RVK voting repeater system. 146.865mhz- 141.3hz. Yahoo! for Good - http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/charity/*http://brand.yahoo. com/cyb ergivingweek2005/Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-BuilderRepeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=UnsubscribeRep [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] New idea for group;
To Kevin Mike the list; Can we start a photo folder on the site, of Things not to do, or things that someone obviously did wrong?? Or just plain Wall of Shame I've got several photos like that; installs where the equipment is just stacked on a shelf. Grounding of antenna lines that is just a piece of wire wrapped around the copper jacket. Telephone lines to sites that trail along the ground thru chain link fences. The 'temporary fix' that becomes permanent I've got some pieces of 1/2 hardline that were pulled out of a conduit which had never been sealed, and water got in it and froze, crushing the hardline. Making it ummm, not very good for RF. You know; the stuff you hate to come across because you have to advise the customer it needs to be fixed; the stuff you know they paid money to a 'professional' for and it's an accident waiting to happen. Chuk Gleason Cary, NC On 31 Dec 2005 13:59:10 -, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 22 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:48:45 -0800 From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: polyphaser Help At 09:25 PM 12/30/05, you wrote: (big chunk cut out) I've been to Florida and saw a relatives house under construction. Just bond to the plastic cold water pipe! Awaiting my lashings. Tom W9SRV I would have taken several digital photos of the ground clamp, plus shots of the signage for the tract, and one of the flag for the number of the parcel ( in case the curbs aren't in yet, hence no street addresses assigned). Then I'd I printed the photos on a laserjet (cheap way to get 8x10 photos even if they are black and white), then go over to the local city building permit office and talk to the inspection and code folks. I'll bet that they'd be VERY interested in the photos Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New idea for group;
I think that is a great idea. I also think a FAQ would be good. It could be in the files section on Yahoo, and mailed to the list monthly. There are a lot of questions I see over and over again, and the FAQ would be a great place to consolidate that knowledge. I would be willing to contribute some hours towards building a FAQ. Jeff At 05:27 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote: To Kevin Mike the list; Can we start a photo folder on the site, of Things not to do, or things that someone obviously did wrong?? Or just plain Wall of Shame I've got several photos like that; installs where the equipment is just stacked on a shelf. Grounding of antenna lines that is just a piece of wire wrapped around the copper jacket. Telephone lines to sites that trail along the ground thru chain link fences. The 'temporary fix' that becomes permanent I've got some pieces of 1/2 hardline that were pulled out of a conduit which had never been sealed, and water got in it and froze, crushing the hardline. Making it ummm, not very good for RF. You know; the stuff you hate to come across because you have to advise the customer it needs to be fixed; the stuff you know they paid money to a 'professional' for and it's an accident waiting to happen. Chuk Gleason Cary, NC On 31 Dec 2005 13:59:10 -, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 22 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:48:45 -0800 From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: polyphaser Help At 09:25 PM 12/30/05, you wrote: (big chunk cut out) I've been to Florida and saw a relatives house under construction. Just bond to the plastic cold water pipe! Awaiting my lashings. Tom W9SRV I would have taken several digital photos of the ground clamp, plus shots of the signage for the tract, and one of the flag for the number of the parcel ( in case the curbs aren't in yet, hence no street addresses assigned). Then I'd I printed the photos on a laserjet (cheap way to get 8x10 photos even if they are black and white), then go over to the local city building permit office and talk to the inspection and code folks. I'll bet that they'd be VERY interested in the photos Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Moto 192.8 Hz PL reed
The one I have - the glass is broken. Neil Ken Arck wrote: At 02:08 PM 12/28/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hey Mike, you are probably old enough to remember when JJ Glass had a surplus bin of old / used vacuum tubes. I think it was the 5D21 (???) that had solid gold grids. I think there is one of those in my garage. You can tell the grids are gold as they aren't tarnished. U, why would they tarnish? They're in a vacuum! (even if they *weren't* gold) Ken - President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-1200 Service Monitor
If all else fails, you might consider a gold Motorola Channel Element as a replacement. From International Crystal, should be guaranteed to 0.0002% (2 ppm) tolerance - still better than no crystal reference at all. Just a thought, Neil - WA6KLA k0jxi wrote: Looking to buy the 1.0 Mhz reference oscilator. Mine failed and looking for a replacement. This one is the square octal plug in assumbly. Anyone having a dead 1200 that wants to sell parts let me know. Also, anyone familar with the failure modes of the oven in this unit contact me off site at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a quick discusion. Would like to get some idea to see if it is repairable. Appreciate any help. Thanks, Dale K0jxi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] cable TV ground rods
Someone correct me if I am wrong but grounding the cable system to the AC panel ground is a National Electrical Code requirement. Neil - WA6KLA Chuck Kelsey wrote: The cable guys around here don't put in ground rods. They bond to the existing electrical ground system. Chuck WB2EDV Someone please tell the cable guys to stop putting in the 4ft rods and creating ground loops! ;) Tom W9SRV *//* Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New idea for group;
Chuk Gleason wrote: To Kevin Mike the list; Can we start a photo folder on the site, of Things not to do, or things that someone obviously did wrong?? Or just plain Wall of Shame I've got several photos like that; installs where the equipment is just stacked on a shelf. Grounding of antenna lines that is just a piece of wire wrapped around the copper jacket. Telephone lines to sites that trail along the ground thru chain link fences. The 'temporary fix' that becomes permanent I've got some pieces of 1/2 hardline that were pulled out of a conduit which had never been sealed, and water got in it and froze, crushing the hardline. Making it ummm, not very good for RF. You know; the stuff you hate to come across because you have to advise the customer it needs to be fixed; the stuff you know they paid money to a 'professional' for and it's an accident waiting to happen. Chuk Gleason No Problem, just make a folder in the photos section Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Moto 192.8 Hz PL reed
At 06:09 PM 12/31/2005 -0800, you wrote: The one I have - the glass is broken. ---Ahhh, well you didn't say that before! Happy New Years, Neal (and everyone else!) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale
2 Meter duplexer for sale: Telewave Model TPRD-1454 4 cavity Bandpass duplexer Label says it is tuned for 141/149 Mhz Spec sheet says will do 600 KHZ min spread! I purchaced the duplexers at Ham-COm 1998 and I have never used them. They are in great shape. Make reasonable offer. Mark W5TXR [EMAIL PROTECTED] More info ? visit www.qrz.com and enter my call Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale
What wd be a reasonable offer? And what area do you live? Terry. --- Original Message --- From: Mark Lacy[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/31/2005 7:39:43 PM To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc : Subject : RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale 2 Meter duplexer for sale: Telewave Model TPRD-1454 4 cavity Bandpass duplexer Label says it is tuned for 141/149 Mhz Spec sheet says will do 600 KHZ min spread! I purchaced the duplexers at Ham-COm 1998 and I have never used them. They are in great shape. Make reasonable offer. Mark W5TXR [EMAIL PROTECTED] More info ? visit www.qrz.com and enter my call Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New idea for group;
Ditto for the FAQ. Steve KC0TJH Jeff Otterson wrote: I think that is a great idea. I also think a FAQ would be good. It could be in the files section on Yahoo, and mailed to the list monthly. There are a lot of questions I see over and over again, and the FAQ would be a great place to consolidate that knowledge. I would be willing to contribute some hours towards building a FAQ. Jeff At 05:27 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote: To Kevin Mike the list; Can we start a photo folder on the site, of Things not to do, or things that someone obviously did wrong?? Or just plain Wall of Shame I've got several photos like that; installs where the equipment is just stacked on a shelf. Grounding of antenna lines that is just a piece of wire wrapped around the copper jacket. Telephone lines to sites that trail along the ground thru chain link fences. The 'temporary fix' that becomes permanent I've got some pieces of 1/2 hardline that were pulled out of a conduit which had never been sealed, and water got in it and froze, crushing the hardline. Making it ummm, not very good for RF. You know; the stuff you hate to come across because you have to advise the customer it needs to be fixed; the stuff you know they paid money to a 'professional' for and it's an accident waiting to happen. Chuk Gleason Cary, NC On 31 Dec 2005 13:59:10 -, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 22 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:48:45 -0800 From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: polyphaser Help At 09:25 PM 12/30/05, you wrote: (big chunk cut out) I've been to Florida and saw a relatives house under construction. Just bond to the plastic cold water pipe! Awaiting my lashings. Tom W9SRV I would have taken several digital photos of the ground clamp, plus shots of the signage for the tract, and one of the flag for the number of the parcel ( in case the curbs aren't in yet, hence no street addresses assigned). Then I'd I printed the photos on a laserjet (cheap way to get 8x10 photos even if they are black and white), then go over to the local city building permit office and talk to the inspection and code folks. I'll bet that they'd be VERY interested in the photos Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale
I am interested in these but not sure what they are worth. What about a starting point? Steve KC0TJH Mark Lacy wrote: 2 Meter duplexer for sale: Telewave Model TPRD-1454 4 cavity Bandpass duplexer Label says it is tuned for 141/149 Mhz Spec sheet says will do 600 KHZ min spread! I purchaced the duplexers at Ham-COm 1998 and I have never used them. They are in great shape. Make reasonable offer. Mark W5TXR [EMAIL PROTECTED] More info ? visit www.qrz.com and enter my call Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] FW: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GR1225
Brian, The GR1225 Desktop Repeater uses the R1225 transceiver, which shares the same RSS (HVN9054) with the P1225 and M1225 radios. The RX light will always flash when there is a signal on the channel, but if the PL or DPL doesn't match, you will not hear anything, nor will the signal be repeated. Press the MON button to enable carrier squelch, and you should hear the traffic. Once you have programmed the repeater correctly, this will not be a problem. One thing to be wary of: Each of the GR1225 repeaters I bought new directly from Motorola came equipped with pre-tuned Celwave duplexers and a jumper harness made of RG-58 cable. The desense on the VHF unit was very prominent- almost 12 dB! I made up a new harness with RG-400 double-shielded cable, and the desense became almost undetectable. Keep this in mind if you want to extract the maximum performance from this repeater! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of repeater_guy Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GR1225 Hi I have aquired a GR1225 and would like to program it. Could someone tell me if the R1225 software would work. I do not have the software and would like to be able to set up this repeater. Another question if anyone can help, the GR1225 has its RX light flashing. I can't receive but I can transmit (with the mike). If someone has an idea what this might be, I think it may just be some messed up programming. Thanks Brian ka9pmm Community email addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/radio-programming Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FW: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale
Mark, The TPRD-1454 is not a bandpass duplexer; it is a bandpass/bandreject duplexer- quite a different animal. With a 600 kHz isolation of 77 dB, it should perform satisfactorily on 2m with a tube-type PA. The data sheet is here: http://www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-6025.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Lacy Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale 2 Meter duplexer for sale: Telewave Model TPRD-1454 4 cavity Bandpass duplexer Label says it is tuned for 141/149 Mhz Spec sheet says will do 600 KHZ min spread! I purchaced the duplexers at Ham-COm 1998 and I have never used them. They are in great shape. Make reasonable offer. Mark W5TXR [EMAIL PROTECTED] More info ? visit www.qrz.com and enter my call Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FW: [Repeater-Builder] cable TV ground rods
Neil, No correction needed- you're absolutely correct. Furthermore, the telephone line protector, the cable TV coaxial shield, and the lightning protection system (if used) must ALL be bonded to the same grounding system as the electrical service. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] cable TV ground rods Someone correct me if I am wrong but grounding the cable system to the AC panel ground is a National Electrical Code requirement. Neil - WA6KLA Chuck Kelsey wrote: The cable guys around here don't put in ground rods. They bond to the existing electrical ground system. Chuck WB2EDV Someone please tell the cable guys to stop putting in the 4ft rods and creating ground loops! ;) Tom W9SRV *//* Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: FW: [Repeater-Builder] cable TV ground rods
Thanks Eric, That is what I thought. Neil - WA6KLA Eric Lemmon wrote: Neil, No correction needed- you're absolutely correct. Furthermore, the telephone line protector, the cable TV coaxial shield, and the lightning protection system (if used) must ALL be bonded to the same grounding system as the electrical service. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] cable TV ground rods Someone correct me if I am wrong but grounding the cable system to the AC panel ground is a National Electrical Code requirement. Neil - WA6KLA Chuck Kelsey wrote: The cable guys around here don't put in ground rods. They bond to the existing electrical ground system. Chuck WB2EDV Someone please tell the cable guys to stop putting in the 4ft rods and creating ground loops! ;) Tom W9SRV *//* Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Moto 192.8 Hz PL reed
At 09:30 PM 12/31/2005 -0800, you wrote: Same to you Kenn (and everyone else!) ---Yea yea.. I typo'd your name.. touche' ! Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale
$100?? Live in Missouri. 73's tshell wrote: What wd be a reasonable offer? And what area do you live? Terry. --- Original Message --- From: Mark Lacy[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/31/2005 7:39:43 PM To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc : Subject : RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale 2 Meter duplexer for sale: Telewave Model TPRD-1454 4 cavity Bandpass duplexer Label says it is tuned for 141/149 Mhz Spec sheet says will do 600 KHZ min spread! I purchaced the duplexers at Ham-COm 1998 and I have never used them. They are in great shape. Make reasonable offer. Mark W5TXR [EMAIL PROTECTED] More info ? visit www.qrz.com and enter my call Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
