[Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Ian
Hi guys .I have the above diplexer and have it tunned to 481.825 and 
487.025 and it works but if the repeater is tx for a while the weak 
signal breaks down and crackles and after a while it comes back clear 
and then breaks down.On my service monitor the notches show a reading 
of -65db with 0 db signal on the tx and rx side.Any sugestions.Can it 
be a problem with insertion loss  .Thanks 
Ian







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] using two radios in tandem

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Holm
In this particular situation, the users don't need to hear each other.  This 
will be used for running a Skywarn net on two repeaters which are not 
linked.  Only the net control station needs to hear everyone.  Users will be 
trained to expect this format.

Getting back to the technical stuff,  does anyone have any advice on the 
microphone connections?  Could the MIC HI and GND lines simply be 
paralleled?

Paul



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 The technical aspect is moot. Logistically, you can't do it.

 You call up the net and a station on both repeaters respond but they
 can't hear each other. How are you going to handle that?

 Chuck
 WB2EDV




 Paul Holm wrote:

 I have a particular situation where I'd like to use two radios in
 tandem.  The purpose is to be able to run a net on two repeaters which
 are not linked.  I am looking at using GE Phoenix radios because of
 cost and availability.

 The idea is to interface two radios in order that they would TX in
 tandem(and RX in tandem) using one microphone.  My thought is that it
 would be straightforward to tie the PTT lines together.  Does anyone
 have any advice on the microphone connections?  Could the MIC HI and
 GND lines simply be paralleled?





 
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[Repeater-Builder] MASTR III Info Needed Also!!!

2006-01-27 Thread Gary LaForce
I'm looking for info on what items i need to program M/A Com GE Mastr III
VHF repeaters. Software part number, cable part number and anything else i
may need.


Gary LaForce


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 Anyone have any info on moving Hi Band  UHF MASTR III base stations into
 the ham band?
 I think they are 150-174  450-470.

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[Repeater-Builder] RLC -4 Going Price

2006-01-27 Thread K.Paul Boggs





What is the approx. going price for a RLC-4,
yellow face, latest firmware, ,rack mount, 16 LED's
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC -4 Going Price

2006-01-27 Thread Mike Mullarkey










About $615.00 to your door step here in Oregon.



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What is the approx. going
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC -4 Going Price

2006-01-27 Thread K.Paul Boggs





Sorry-My Error-
Price (average) for a good used one
Paul




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About $615.00 to your door step here in Oregon.

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What is the approx. going price for a RLC-4,

yellow face, latest firmware, ,rack mount, 16 LED's

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] using two radios in tandem

2006-01-27 Thread Bob M.
You can parallel two Motorola MaxTrac radios, so I'd
think you can also do it with two other same-model
radios as well. You might not have enough mike level
for each radio, but that could be overcome by
close-talking the mike.

Of course you will need two antennas, or some kind of
tuned diplexer unit if you have to feed two radios
into one antenna. Also make sure your power supply can
handle the load of two radios and then some.

Bob M.
==
--- Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In this particular situation, the users don't need
 to hear each other.  This 
 will be used for running a Skywarn net on two
 repeaters which are not 
 linked.  Only the net control station needs to hear
 everyone.  Users will be 
 trained to expect this format.
 
 Getting back to the technical stuff,  does anyone
 have any advice on the 
 microphone connections?  Could the MIC HI and GND
 lines simply be 
 paralleled?
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] using two radios in
 tandem
 
 
  The technical aspect is moot. Logistically, you
 can't do it.
 
  You call up the net and a station on both
 repeaters respond but they
  can't hear each other. How are you going to handle
 that?
 
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
 
 
 
 
  Paul Holm wrote:
 
  I have a particular situation where I'd like to
 use two radios in
  tandem.  The purpose is to be able to run a net
 on two repeaters which
  are not linked.  I am looking at using GE Phoenix
 radios because of
  cost and availability.
 
  The idea is to interface two radios in order that
 they would TX in
  tandem(and RX in tandem) using one microphone. 
 My thought is that it
  would be straightforward to tie the PTT lines
 together.  Does anyone
  have any advice on the microphone connections? 
 Could the MIC HI and
  GND lines simply be paralleled?

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR III Info Needed Also!!!

2006-01-27 Thread Steve Bosshard
The cable is a straight DB9 to DB9 - nothing special.  It runs from the
comport to the data port on the radio.

I will have to look for the PN on the application - it will go into the 2M
or 440 ham bands just fine except on the 440 band you may have to change
some components on the TX VCO - been several years since I played with one.

Steve
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR III Info Needed Also!!!

I'm looking for info on what items i need to program M/A Com GE Mastr III
VHF repeaters. Software part number, cable part number and anything else i
may need.


Gary LaForce


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 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:19 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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 Anyone have any info on moving Hi Band  UHF MASTR III base stations into
 the ham band?
 I think they are 150-174  450-470.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: using two radios in tandem

2006-01-27 Thread skipp025
As described by Link Comm some years back, their original 
RLC-6 Board (which I have a number of...) has two linking 
options.  One is described as repeater hub linking, the other 
as repeater chain linking. 

In the Chain Link Mode, the board will route any active 
receiver (half or duplex mode) to the other port transmitters. 

This would link both repeaters and the base station. Alas 
Link doesn't make the RLC-6 anymore, but CAT Auto makes the 
RLS/RLB-1000, which is the same type of board with uP control. 

Someone with a strong desire for chain operation could easily 
write new code for the CAT Auto Board.  I believe the firmware 
in the RLS-1000 board only supports hub mode linking... but 
one might check.

cheers,
skipp 

 Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The technical aspect is moot. Logistically, you can't do it.
 
 You call up the net and a station on both repeaters respond but they 
 can't hear each other. How are you going to handle that?
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
 
 
 
 Paul Holm wrote:
 
  I have a particular situation where I'd like to use two radios in 
  tandem.  The purpose is to be able to run a net on two repeaters
which 
  are not linked.  I am looking at using GE Phoenix radios because of 
  cost and availability.
   
  The idea is to interface two radios in order that they would TX in 
  tandem(and RX in tandem) using one microphone.  My thought is that it 
  would be straightforward to tie the PTT lines together.  Does anyone 
  have any advice on the microphone connections?  Could the MIC HI and 
  GND lines simply be paralleled?
   
  Thanks,
   
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: using two radios in tandem

2006-01-27 Thread skipp025
It wouldn't be that hard to make a chain mode linking 
system.  If you're using maxtracs, I've already designed 
and built the (maxtrac) interface for a commercial 
application.  Works great, lasts a long time... 

With the proper respect for dc isolation and ac loading, 
you can parallel the connections, but it's not a great idea. 

Depends on the radio and mic connections really. 

skipp 

 Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In this particular situation, the users don't need to hear each
other.  This 
 will be used for running a Skywarn net on two repeaters which are not 
 linked.  Only the net control station needs to hear everyone.  Users
will be 
 trained to expect this format.
 
 Getting back to the technical stuff,  does anyone have any advice on
the 
 microphone connections?  Could the MIC HI and GND lines simply be 
 paralleled?
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] using two radios in tandem
 
 
  The technical aspect is moot. Logistically, you can't do it.
 
  You call up the net and a station on both repeaters respond but they
  can't hear each other. How are you going to handle that?
 
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
 
 
 
 
  Paul Holm wrote:
 
  I have a particular situation where I'd like to use two radios in
  tandem.  The purpose is to be able to run a net on two repeaters
which
  are not linked.  I am looking at using GE Phoenix radios because of
  cost and availability.
 
  The idea is to interface two radios in order that they would TX in
  tandem(and RX in tandem) using one microphone.  My thought is that it
  would be straightforward to tie the PTT lines together.  Does anyone
  have any advice on the microphone connections?  Could the MIC HI and
  GND lines simply be paralleled?










 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Tk-722 parts

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
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 Well, it was worth a try.
 
 The RF Deck came out of a TKR 620 desk-top repeater.  Unfortunately, the
 front panel and other items were lost when the owner scrapped it out for
 the power supply present in the Desk-Top repeater that the TK-722R came
 out of; as well as the boards I described.
 
 Sorry these parts from the Desk-top repeater weren't the ones you need.
 
 I don't know if the R in TK-722R designated repeater, or if every
 TK-722 mobile has the R designator.  The one I have is RF Deck only;
 no front panel.  The whole thing may have been a Franken-Radio made
 from genuine used parts.  :)
 
 If I am able to finally retrieve the front panel from the desk-top
 repeater these components came from, I will drop you a line.
 
 David
 KD4NUE

Let me see if I can straithen out some of this.
There is no such thing as a TKR-620. The TKB-620 is a low band base 
station of the same type as the TKB-720 and 820.
The 'R' in TKR indicated repeater. 'B' indicates base station. A base 
cannot be converted into a repeater. The Repeater adds a second VCO and 
synthesizer to allow full duplex.
The first number indicates band. A TK-6xx is low band, a TK-7xx is high 
band, a TK-8xx is UHF, a TK-9x0 is 800 Mhz, and a TK-9x1 is 900 Mhz. 
This applies to mobiles.
The newest commercial radios from Kenwood have four numbers instead of 
three, but still follow the same basic format.
The TK-722 is a trunk-mount version of the TK-720 *mobile*. Parts from 
it could possibly be used to repair a TKB-720 base, and maybe a few can 
used in TKR-720 as well.
I don't really think the 'R' on the end of TK-722R means much of anything.
One of our other techs here just installed a TK-802R in a vehicle 
yesterday. Just a trunk mount TK-801...
Finding a place to mount everything in a Chevy Trailblazer was fun though...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mountain Lion time!

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote:
 After many years of Mountain Top Work, we caught our 
 first full-on view of a Large (full size) Mountain Lion 
 last week.  She crossed the road right in front of us 
 with two giant leaps up the birm into the woods. 
 
 Very impressive...  after seeing about everything else, 
 we had never even seen a Mountain Lion.  
 
 The yes columb now has:  Pigs, real Wild Turkeys, Bobcats, 
 Deer, Elk, Skunks, Racoons, Badgers, 10 million mice, Owls, 
 Hawks, Buzzards, Meth Addicts, Pot Growers (with guns), 
 nutty hikers, lost plane crash sites and one beautiful 
 full size female mountain lion.  
 
 What's in your wallet?  
 
 cheers,
 skipp 

Well, I had a bald eagle swoop about 15-20' in front of me as I driving 
down SR 2 near Sandusky Bay a few weeks ago (65 mph zone btw)
*BIG* bird!
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread larry
HI...
It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the spacing
between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 mhz
not 600 khz
Larry ve3fxq

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER


 Hi guys .I have the above diplexer and have it tunned to 481.825 and
 487.025 and it works but if the repeater is tx for a while the weak
 signal breaks down and crackles and after a while it comes back clear
 and then breaks down.On my service monitor the notches show a reading
 of -65db with 0 db signal on the tx and rx side.Any sugestions.Can it
 be a problem with insertion loss  .Thanks
 Ian








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
Dave VanHorn wrote:

 Just arrived, crystals from west for our UHF pair.
 We plan to put the system online this weekend.
 441.9 + 127.3 PL Muncie IN.
 
 :)

Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was thinking about asking 
around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links between 440 and 442...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mule on the attack

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
Russ Wilson wrote:

pretty neat pictures...
 
 Mule on the attack.

ugh-poor cat...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:09 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was thinking about asking 
around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links between 440 and 442...

---Interestingly, Dave was assigned the same channel as one of my
repeaters here in Oregon. Which, of course means, OR uses  442 as well!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Tk-722 parts

2006-01-27 Thread DCFluX



I would think that the front panel board from any radio in the TKR-x20 or TKB-x20 series can be swaped in there. You should be able to swap between a TKR-820 and a TKR-720 just fine.

Then just change out the 8 pin EEProm from one into the other for your
channels, there also is some code here which tells the programmer what
radio it is. Or you can be 'leet and put in a socket as well so you can
brute force program the EEProm without the KPT-50 or software.

There are shorting pins on the front panels control chip to determine
if the board is for a base or repeater so jump it accordingly if you
get a base stations board and remove the extra components you don't
need like the channel knob. Refer to the TKR-720 schematic that is
bouncing around the net for information about the front panel board.

On 1/27/06, Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it was worth a try. The RF Deck came out of a TKR 620 desk-top repeater.Unfortunately, the front panel and other items were lost when the owner scrapped it out for
 the power supply present in the Desk-Top repeater that the TK-722R came out of; as well as the boards I described. Sorry these parts from the Desk-top repeater weren't the ones you need.
 I don't know if the R in TK-722R designated repeater, or if every TK-722 mobile has the R designator.The one I have is RF Deck only; no front panel.The whole thing may have been a Franken-Radio made
 from genuine used parts.:) If I am able to finally retrieve the front panel from the desk-top repeater these components came from, I will drop you a line. David KD4NUE
Let me see if I can straithen out some of this.There is no such thing as a TKR-620. The TKB-620 is a low band basestation of the same type as the TKB-720 and 820.The 'R' in TKR indicated repeater. 'B' indicates base station. A base
cannot be converted into a repeater. The Repeater adds a second VCO andsynthesizer to allow full duplex.The first number indicates band. A TK-6xx is low band, a TK-7xx is highband, a TK-8xx is UHF, a TK-9x0 is 800 Mhz, and a TK-9x1 is 900 Mhz.
This applies to mobiles.The newest commercial radios from Kenwood have four numbers instead ofthree, but still follow the same basic format.The TK-722 is a trunk-mount version of the TK-720 *mobile*. Parts from
it could possibly be used to repair a TKB-720 base, and maybe a few canused in TKR-720 as well.I don't really think the 'R' on the end of TK-722R means much of anything.One of our other techs here just installed a TK-802R in a vehicle
yesterday. Just a trunk mount TK-801...Finding a place to mount everything in a Chevy Trailblazer was fun though...--Jim BarbourWD8CHLYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote:

 At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 
HI...
It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the spacing
between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 mhz
not 600 khz
 
 
 ---The standard is 5 Mhz, at least in the US :-)
 
 Ken

Except 470-512 where the standard is 3Mhz.


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Dave VanHorn
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 12:09 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was thinking about 
asking 
 around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links between 440 and 
442...
 
 ---Interestingly, Dave was assigned the same channel as one of my
 repeaters here in Oregon. Which, of course means, OR uses  442 as 
well!


I checked around in the area, it's practically a 'clear channel' :)

All radios tuned, all cans tuned, we go up for overhaul tomorrow 
morning.








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Dave VanHorn

 At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 HI...
 It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the 
spacing
 between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 
mhz
 not 600 khz


1.2 mhz is 220 band, isn't it?









 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Tk-722 parts

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
DCFluX wrote:

 I would think that the front panel board from any radio in the TKR-x20 or
 TKB-x20 series can be swaped in there. You should be able to swap between a
 TKR-820 and a TKR-720 just fine.

Yes-I would expect that too: TKR to TKR and TKB to TKB. Staying in the 
'20 series, btw. I didn't make that clear in the last post.

 Then just change out the 8 pin EEProm from one into the other for your
 channels, there also is some code here which tells the programmer what radio
 it is. Or you can be 'leet and put in a socket as well so you can brute
 force program the EEProm without the KPT-50 or software.

Were you the one working on a KPT-50 replacement? Now *that* would be 133t!

 There are shorting pins on the front panels control chip to determine if the
 board is for a base or repeater so jump it accordingly if you get a base
 stations board and remove the extra components you don't need like the
 channel knob. Refer to the TKR-720 schematic that is bouncing around the net
 for information about the front panel board.

I suppose it could be done that way. I wouldn't do it for a customer, 
though...
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
HI...
It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the spacing
between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 mhz
not 600 khz

---The standard is 5 Mhz, at least in the US :-)

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
Dave VanHorn wrote:

At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:

HI...
It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the 
 
 spacing
 
between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 
 
 mhz
 
not 600 khz
 
 
 
 1.2 mhz is 220 band, isn't it?

220 is 1.6 Mhz split :c)
close!
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Dick
Standard spacing for UHF repeaters is 5 MHz.

Dick

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER


HI...
It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the spacing
between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 mhz
not 600 khz
Larry ve3fxq

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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:23 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER


 Hi guys .I have the above diplexer and have it tunned to 481.825 and
 487.025 and it works but if the repeater is tx for a while the weak
 signal breaks down and crackles and after a while it comes back clear
 and then breaks down.On my service monitor the notches show a reading
 of -65db with 0 db signal on the tx and rx side.Any sugestions.Can it
 be a problem with insertion loss  .Thanks
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:23 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 ---The standard is 5 Mhz, at least in the US :-)
Except 470-512 where the standard is 3Mhz.

---Ok ok, so I should have qualified that as MID-SPLIT g

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[Repeater-Builder] Moto Reed question

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
The question came up about reed compatibility. I have never had a 
problem using the KLN6209 interchangably with the TLN6709 in lots of 
different radios, from HT220's to Mitrek's and Maxar-80's.

Is there really a difference?
I know they can't be used in a Micor *decoder*, but they both have 
worked fine in the encode boards.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mule on the attack

2006-01-27 Thread Tony King, W4ZT
Too often folks take pictures from unknown sources and credit them with 
unbelievable things.

Read the truth about the so called lion killing mule:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/mule-lion.htm

A little research usually clears up these questions.

73, Tony W4ZT


vmckever wrote:
 Some one mention lion attack?
 Just got these from my sister and wanted to share. Next trip better take a 
 mule with you.
 
 Vincent N6OA
 - Original Message - 
 From: Russ Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:10 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mule on the attack
 
 
 pretty neat pictures...

  Mule on the attack.



 These pics came from a guy in AZ. Yes, the mule
 killed the mountain lion.
 The lion had been stalking them for the better part
 of the morning, on the
 way out to a hunt. They were pretty sure it was
 after one of the dogs.  The
 cat ambushed them, and the mule pictured tossed its
 rider and went into
 attack (defense) mode, the horses scattered and
 shots were fired but no one
 was sure if they hit the cat or not.
 Unfortunately, it wasn't until it was
 almost over that one of the guys started snapping
 pics.  The mule finally
 stomped the cougar to death after biting and
 throwing it around like a rag
 doll.  The dogs wouldn't even come close until the
 mule settled down.
  The cat was still alive here and trying to fight
 back


 The mule stomped the cat then pinned it to the
 ground and bit the heck

 out of the dead cat several more times.


 The cat was pretty much dead by now then mule picked
 up the cat again
 whipped it

 into the air again then stomped the dead cat again
 for good measure!


 Note the dog audience


 Gives new meaning to the term BAD ASSE

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[Repeater-Builder] Western Radio Repeater Alignment

2006-01-27 Thread ve7ltd
I have looked through the archives for as long as I can press Search 
More before I go insane

I have been tasked with recrystalizing a WR series 90 UHF repeater. 
For those that dont know WR, they are the father of Glenayre 
equipment.

I am looking for a manual to tune these modules, but I cant find one 
anywhere. The funny thing is WR used to be made in Vancouver BC, my 
home town. There are a couple of WR repeaters on the air here, but 
nobody seems to have the UHF module info.

If the radios are similar to the WR 1454 mobiles for tuning, then I 
may be okay, but I doubt they are.

The modules ( I think ) are the 9R90 receiver and 9T90B4 transmitter.

Does anybody use these things? I have heard talk of some people with 
nice WR/Glenayre amplifers, does anyone have info on the modules?

Now I know why I like MASTR II equipment :)

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question

2006-01-27 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
I am using 2 GE phoenix SX UHF to tie 146.66 in Waco to 146.82 in Temple -
works FB.  I am sure the radius will work well for this task.  You may need
to protect the link radio from the 440 repeater transmitter and vice versa
with some cavity filters.  On 2M with a 440 control link and DB222 repeater
antenna, I have used a cross band coupler (one of the $25 cheapies) and run
both the 2m repeater PLUS the 440 link on the 2M antenna - just a thought.
Your milage may vary,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread TGundo 2003



IL Is doing 440-442 now as well. The problem IL has, and IN I imagine, is that Michigan will not recoginize any new coordinations in the 440-442 band, and instaead of providing useful data to IL when a request is submitted for new coord., like MI had a link on that freq, they just say NO (or don't even respond from whatI have heard)with no reason explained other than they will not recoginize a repeater coordinated there because it does not fit the bandplan. I fell victom to that with my first pair. We are close enough in northern IL that it is important to know what is coordinated in Mighigan.From what I hear MI dosen't play well with others so IL and some other states are ignoring them now and just dealing with the problems after the fact. In my opinion thats BS, but such is life. Not to mention the extra $100 I had to spend to re-crystal because michigan could't just say "no, we have a link there" instead of the blanket No. I think theres a commercial on TV
 with David Spade working at the MI repeater council right now ;)Sorry for the rant, off my soapbox now.Tom  W9SRVKen Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  At 12:09 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was thinking about asking around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links between 440 and 442...---Interestingly, Dave was assigned the same channel as one of myrepeaters here in Oregon. Which, of course means, OR uses  442 as well!Ken--President and CTO - Arcom CommunicationsMakers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.htmlAuthorized Dealers for
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote:

 At 12:23 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 
---The standard is 5 Mhz, at least in the US :-)

Except 470-512 where the standard is 3Mhz.
 
 
 ---Ok ok, so I should have qualified that as MID-SPLIT g
 
 Ken
 --

Oh yeah, then there's the feds down at 406-420. Was 8.8 Mhz, after 
narrowbanding at the end of the year it will be 9 Mhz.
phew
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC -4 Going Price

2006-01-27 Thread k7pfj



I hope you have good luck but mose likley not. I recomend to just bite the bullet  call Allan  get one coming.


Mike

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Sorry-My Error-
Price (average) for a good used one
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Sent: 1/27/2006 7:18:33 AM 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC -4 Going Price


About $615.00 to your door step here in Oregon.

Mike


Oregon Repeater Linking Group
Mike Mullarkey
6539 E Street
Springfield, OR 97478
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What is the approx. going price for a RLC-4,

yellow face, latest firmware, ,rack mount, 16 LED's

Paul





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Jeff DePolo

The coordinator in MI shouldn't object to a coordination from an adjacent
council just because their bandplans aren't identical.  For better or worse,
there isn't a universal bandplan that satisfies the entire amateur community
nation-wide.

If there is nothing coordinated in MI that is going to be adversely affected
by the neighboring coordinator's proposed operation, then they have no
reason to object.  If they do have something that would be affected (be it
of the same operation type or otherwise), then that's a different story.

That's the way we work here on the east coast among councils.

And yes, we have repeaters in the 440-442/445-447 range.  Our aux link
subbands are all below 440.

--- Jeff


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TGundo 2003
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:44 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!
 
 IL Is doing 440-442 now as well. The problem IL has, and IN I 
 imagine, is that Michigan will not recoginize any new 
 coordinations in the 440-442 band, and instaead of providing 
 useful data to IL when a request is submitted for new coord., 
 like MI had a link on that freq, they just say NO (or don't 
 even respond from what I have heard) with no reason explained 
 other than they will not recoginize a repeater coordinated 
 there because it does not fit the bandplan. I fell victom to 
 that with my first pair. We are close enough in northern IL 
 that it is important to know what is coordinated in Mighigan. 
 From what I hear MI dosen't play well with others so IL and 
 some other states are ignoring them now and just dealing with 
 the problems after the fact. In my opinion thats BS, but such 
 is life. Not to mention the extra $100 I had to spend to 
 re-crystal because michigan could't just say no, we have a 
 link there instead of the blanket No. I think theres a 
 commercia! l on TV with David Spade working at the MI 
 repeater council right now ;)
  
 Sorry for the rant, off my soapbox now.
  
 Tom
 W9SRV
 
 Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   At 12:09 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
   
   Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was 
 thinking about asking 
   around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links 
 between 440 and 442...
   
   ---Interestingly, Dave was assigned the same channel 
 as one of my
   repeaters here in Oregon. Which, of course means, OR 
 uses  442 as well!
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.
TGundo 2003 wrote:

 IL Is doing 440-442 now as well. The problem IL has, and IN I
 imagine, is that Michigan will not recoginize any new coordinations
 in the 440-442 band, and instaead of providing useful data to IL when
 a request is submitted for new coord., like MI had a link on that
 freq, they just say NO (or don't even respond from what I have heard)
 with no reason explained other than they will not recoginize a
 repeater coordinated there because it does not fit the bandplan. 

That doesn't surprise me with the dealings I've had with MI as well.
And not just in ham radio...
People have died here because of a lack of cooperation from MI.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread mch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MI the state with the 20 kHz 146-148
MHz bandplan that is different from EVERYONE surrounding them? Are you
objecting to all their 2M proposals that doesn't fall on a pair that is
within your bandplan?

I echo Jeff's comments - if there is no interference potential, there is
no valid objection. OH issues 12.5 kHz split repeaters. AFAIK, nobody
around them does, but they are not objected to (unless there are links
on those frequencies that would be subject to interference).

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Al Wolfe
Perhaps we should note that Ian is talking about a radio service in 
Australia. I doubt that discussions about standard repeater splits in the US 
are particularly useful to him.

Al, K9SI


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 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER


 Hi guys .I have the above diplexer and have it tunned to 481.825 and
 487.025 and it works but if the repeater is tx for a while the weak
 signal breaks down and crackles and after a while it comes back clear
 and then breaks down.On my service monitor the notches show a reading
 of -65db with 0 db signal on the tx and rx side.Any sugestions.Can it
 be a problem with insertion loss  .Thanks
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[Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP687 Specs, Cabling, Tuning

2006-01-27 Thread Bob M.
Does anyone have specs, cable lengths, and tuning
procedures for a Wacom 850-950 MHz 4-can Bp/Br
duplexer? I have page 2 of a PDF document that only
has specs and performance curves. Telewave
cross-references it to their TTPD-8644, but that
doesn't seem to be available in as many offset/band
combinations as the Wacom unit was. The Telewave units
seem to be able to handle more power, too.

I've written to Telewave (they own Wacom now) and am
still waiting for info from them. Usually they're very
helpful.

Thanks.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mountain Lion time!

2006-01-27 Thread Jim B.

I can't help but wonder what a mountain lion tastes
like.

Bad idea.
Just leave it alone...ignore it.
I think they're still federally protected.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread TGundo 2003



This is from the March 2005 MIARC newsletter (I have *** the names to protect the innocent) available for public viewing on their website:  "* introduced discussion asking for a resolution on how to respond to surrounding states who are using frequencies that we coordinate as links as repeater frequencies.** has had some communication with surrounding states. The board has determined that requests for NOPC from surrounding  states for repeaters that fall outside of our repeater frequency guidelines will be answered with an objection to coordination."  Draw your own conclusions.Tom  W9SRVJeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The coordinator in MI shouldn't object to a coordination from an adjacentcouncil just because their bandplans aren't identical. For better or worse,there isn't a universal bandplan that satisfies the entire amateur communitynation-wide.If there is nothing coordinated in MI that is going to be adversely affectedby the neighboring coordinator's proposed operation, then they have noreason to object. If they do have something that would be affected (be itof the same operation type or otherwise), then that's a different story.That's the way we work here
 on the east coast among councils.And yes, we have repeaters in the 440-442/445-447 range. Our aux linksubbands are all below 440.--- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TGundo 2003 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!  IL Is doing 440-442 now as well. The problem IL has, and IN I  imagine, is that Michigan will not recoginize any new  coordinations in the 440-442 band, and instaead of providing  useful data to IL when a request is submitted for new coord.,  like MI had a link on that freq, they just say NO (or don't  even respond from what I have heard) with no reason explained  other than they will not recoginize a repeater coordinated  there because
 it does not fit the bandplan. I fell victom to  that with my first pair. We are close enough in northern IL  that it is important to know what is coordinated in Mighigan.  From what I hear MI dosen't play well with others so IL and  some other states are ignoring them now and just dealing with  the problems after the fact. In my opinion thats BS, but such  is life. Not to mention the extra $100 I had to spend to  re-crystal because michigan could't just say "no, we have a  link there" instead of the blanket No. I think theres a  commercia! l on TV with David Spade working at the MI  repeater council right now ;)  Sorry for the rant, off my soapbox now.  Tom W9SRV  Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  At 12:09 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:  Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was  thinking about
 asking  around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links  between 440 and 442...  ---Interestingly, Dave was assigned the same channel  as one of my repeaters here in Oregon. Which, of course means, OR  uses  442 as well!  Ken  --  President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealer! s for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net  Yahoo! Groups Links    Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Jeff DePolo

In other words, they think they have the right to force THEIR bandplan on
all of the adjacent coordinators??!??!

I'd give my opinions, but they would be so profound and disgusting that
decorum prohibits listing them here (citing Animal House of course ;-).

--- Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TGundo 2003
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:24 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!
 
 This is from the March 2005 MIARC newsletter (I have *** the 
 names to protect the innocent) available for public viewing 
 on their website:
  
 *  introduced discussion asking for a resolution on 
 how to respond to surrounding states who are using 
 frequencies that we coordinate as links as repeater 
 frequencies. ** has had some communication with 
 surrounding states. The board has determined that requests 
 for NOPC from surrounding states for repeaters that fall 
 outside of our repeater frequency guidelines will be answered 
 with an objection to coordination.
  
 Draw your own conclusions.
  
 Tom
 W9SRV
 
 Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   The coordinator in MI shouldn't object to a 
 coordination from an adjacent
   council just because their bandplans aren't identical. 
 For better or worse,
   there isn't a universal bandplan that satisfies the 
 entire amateur community
   nation-wide.
   
   If there is nothing coordinated in MI that is going to 
 be adversely affected
   by the neighboring coordinator's proposed operation, 
 then they have no
   reason to object. If they do have something that would 
 be affected (be it
   of the same operation type or otherwise), then that's a 
 different story.
   
   That's the way we ! work here on the east coast among councils.
   
   And yes, we have repeaters in the 440-442/445-447 
 range. Our aux link
   subbands are all below 440.
   
   --- Jeff
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of TGundo 2003
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

IL Is doing 440-442 now as well. The problem IL has, and IN I 
imagine, is that Michigan will not recoginize any new 
coordinations in the 440-442 band, and instaead of providing 
useful data to IL when a request is submitted for new coord., 
like MI had a link on that freq, they just say NO (or don't 
even respond from what I have heard) with no reason explained 
other than they will not recoginize a repeater coordinated 
there! because it does not fit the bandplan. I fell victom to 
that with my first pair. We are close enough in northern IL 
that it is important to know what is coordinated in Mighigan. 
From what I hear MI dosen't play well with others so IL and 
some other states are ignoring them now and just dealing with 
the problems after the fact. In my opinion thats BS, but such 
is life. Not to mention the extra $100 I had to spend to 
re-crystal because michigan could't just say no, we have a 
link there instead of the blanket No. I think theres a 
commercia! l on TV with David Spade working at the MI 
repeater council right now ;)

Sorry for the rant, off my soapbox now.

Tom
W9SRV

Ken Arck wrote:

At 12:09 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Interesting that IN is assigning below 442. I was 
think! ing about asking 
around why Ohio doesn't assign repeaters or links 
between 440 and 442...

---Interestingly, Dave was assigned the same channel 
as one of my
repeaters here in Oregon. Which, of course means, OR 
uses  442 as well!

Ken

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 accessories.
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[Repeater-Builder] coordination blues

2006-01-27 Thread Jay Urish
Sounds like something the TXVHFFM Society would do... They don't even 
want to share data with the other coordinating body in TX.


TGundo 2003 wrote:
 This is from the March 2005 MIARC newsletter (I have *** the names to 
 protect the innocent) available for public viewing on their website:
  
 *  introduced discussion asking for a resolution on how to 
 respond to surrounding states who are using frequencies that we 
 coordinate as links as repeater frequencies. ** has had some 
 communication with surrounding states. The board has determined that 
 requests for NOPC from surrounding
 states for repeaters that fall outside of our repeater frequency 
 guidelines will be answered with an objection to coordination.
  
 Draw your own conclusions.
  
 Tom
 W9SRV
 
 */Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

-- 
Jay Urish W5GM
DCARA President ARRL Life Member
Denton County ARRL VEC
N5ERS VP/Trustee

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Tk-722 parts

2006-01-27 Thread N9LLO




I seem to recall a band select jumper on the display boardin the 722R manual. 
J2 selects UHFor VHF J3 selects repeater or base

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Q
220 band is 1.6geesh!

Dave VanHorn wrote:

At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:


HI...
It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the 
  

spacing
  

between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2 
  

mhz
  

not 600 khz
  



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[Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Ian
I thank you all for your comments and one in particular .Australia has 
a 5.2 mhz split for commercial services .The problem i am coming up 
against is the mobile diplexers seem to fade in and out of tune .On a 
few sites i use these mobile diplexers with one cavity in the rx line 
to clean up the very weak signals and it works well but i have come 
across desense fading in and out on a signal and i was hoping someone 
might have had the same thing happened to them .thanks ian 







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Western Radio Repeater Alignment

2006-01-27 Thread Tedd Doda
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:44:18 -, ve7ltd wrote:

I am looking for a manual to tune these modules,

We have a set up using the WR 90 series stuff here
in Kitchener Dave, but it's a UHF receiver tied to
a VHF exciter/amp used for the NASA link. I have the
complete set of manuals some where and will look 
around this weekend.



Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

Lazer Audio and Electronics
Baden, Ontario, Canada





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3576

2006-01-27 Thread Mike Short
Take a look at the below website. This story is not true.

Mike
AI4NS
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/mule-lion.htm

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mule on the attack



 pretty neat pictures...

  Mule on the attack.



 These pics came from a guy in AZ. Yes, the mule
 killed the mountain lion.
 The lion had been stalking them for the better part
 of the morning, on the
 way out to a hunt. They were pretty sure it was
 after one of the dogs.  The
 cat ambushed them, and the mule pictured tossed its
 rider and went into
 attack (defense) mode, the horses scattered and
 shots were fired but no one
 was sure if they hit the cat or not.
 Unfortunately, it wasn't until it was
 almost over that one of the guys started snapping
 pics.  The mule finally
 stomped the cougar to death after biting and
 throwing it around like a rag
 doll.  The dogs wouldn't even come close until the
 mule settled down.
  The cat was still alive here and trying to fight
 back


 The mule stomped the cat then pinned it to the
 ground and bit the heck

 out of the dead cat several more times.


 The cat was pretty much dead by now then mule picked
 up the cat again
 whipped it

 into the air again then stomped the dead cat again
 for good measure!


 Note the dog audience


 Gives new meaning to the term BAD ASSE

 And don't call me a JackAss.






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread Laryn Lohman

 
 That doesn't surprise me with the dealings I've had with MI as well.
 And not just in ham radio...
 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL


clearing throat
I assume that those dealings weren't with me...
As for the MIARC, no comment.  (Let's just say that my rating is not a
10).

Laryn K8TVZ









 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread N8BQN

S'Okay - we can take the slams ..
What the IL guys DON'T have to contend with is the LINE-A baloney that's
dished out to us .. Nothing EVER fits, on ANY band, in ANY service...

Would you like some cheeze  crackers with that whine .. ?? g

~ RSG / N8BQN ~
40mi E of Line-A

(Note: all the re- re- re- was deleted:  nope nobody objects)


Jeff DePolo wrote:

 In other words, they think they have the right to force THEIR bandplan on
 all of the adjacent coordinators??!??!

The coordinator in MI shouldn't object to a  coordination from an
 adjacent council just because their bandplans aren't identical.
  For better or worse,  there isn't a universal bandplan that satisfies the

  entire amateur community nation-wide.
 





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN! Completely Different System Part II

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Finch
Hello,

I just finished the first conversion to a repeater using the ICS controllers
I recently purchased.  The repeater is now on 442.150 TX and the receiver is
447.150 with CTCSS of 110.9 Hz.

Interesting little board, it works well and is VERY cost effective.  While
this board is obviously built for Motorola's and GE's it fit really well
into the Johnson 559.  The only problem I had was getting the levels down
low enough where it would not overdrive the Johnson Microphone circuit.  So
far I have had to make these mods to every controller I have installed in
the Johnson equipment.  The Johnson Mic circuit takes very little audio to
drive it.

The mod consists of taking both the RX input and TX output audio amplifier
IC's out of circuit, they are in the same package.  It's fairly easy mod to
do, just remove the IC and bend the correct leads out enough so they don't
make contact in the IC socket then jumper the board on the bottom so the
audio is passed through as a passive circuit.

The receive audio is taken off of the high side of the volume control which
is more than enough to drive the transmit microphone circuit.  The only down
side is the output level is now a series control and does not have full
control of the transmitted audio but it does work well working the level
between the RX level pot and the TX level pot.

For around 40 bucks it's not a bad little controller!

Now on to the 220 repeater, GE 800 to 900 MHz mod and the 6 and 10 meter
repeaters.  Hey, I don't smoke, drink or gamble, what else am I to do on
these warm winter nights?  By the way, while doing the repeaters I am also
working on a 1976 Fiat to get it back on the road.

Paul







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread mch
So I guess they are accepting objections for the same reason? (reference
my last post about their bandplan that differs from everyone else's
around them)

Joe M.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread larry
Yes, thanks for the memory jogg. As I, know, recall, 
I believe its 1.2 mhz for 220

Larry ve3fxq

- Original Message - 
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER


 At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 HI...
 It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the spacing
 between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2
mhz
 not 600 khz

 ---The standard is 5 Mhz, at least in the US :-)

 Ken
 






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Yonge
The standard repeater offset is 1.6 MHz for 222-225 MHz and 5.0 MHz  
for 420-450 MHz.

Paul Yonge  KC2PBD


On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:46 PM, larry wrote:

 Yes, thanks for the memory jogg. As I, know, recall,
 I believe its 1.2 mhz for 220

 Larry ve3fxq

 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER


 At 11:46 AM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 HI...
 It has been a while since I was on 450 mhz.. but I believe the  
 spacing
 between receiver and transmitter, on 450, is some where around 1.2
 mhz
 not 600 khz

 ---The standard is 5 Mhz, at least in the US :-)

 Ken








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[Repeater-Builder] RFS 6MC450S DIPLEXER

2006-01-27 Thread Ian
Imay have stubbled across the problem .the connectors on the test cable 
between the diplexer and the service monitor were hand tight so i tried 
tightning them and it seems to have cleared the desense.I will have to 
check more on this on my other repeater sites as the heliax fittings  
are only hand tight onto the diplexer and the antenna bases.thanks ian 








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Yonge

On Jan 27, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Paul Yonge wrote:

 The standard repeater offset is 1.6 MHz for 222-225 MHz and 5.0 MHz
 for 420-450 MHz.

 Paul Yonge  KC2PBD


I just found out that I got my vanity call sign.  Congratulations to me!

Paul Yonge, CBT
W2ARK WQDY219
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Have ARK -- will travel




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:42 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:


I just found out that I got my vanity call sign.  Congratulations to me!
W2ARK WQDY219

---I tried to get AH6ARCK but.. g

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Dick
And to see where you're going, Paul, will you install an ARK LIGHT?

(The devil made me do it!!!)

Congrats  73,

Dick W1NMZ

- Original Message - 
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 27 January, 2006 16:42
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity



On Jan 27, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Paul Yonge wrote:

 The standard repeater offset is 1.6 MHz for 222-225 MHz and 5.0 MHz
 for 420-450 MHz.

 Paul Yonge  KC2PBD


I just found out that I got my vanity call sign.  Congratulations to me!

Paul Yonge, CBT
W2ARK WQDY219
MIDLAKES REPEATER
Have ARK -- will travel




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Yonge
Ken -

It was a toss-up between W2ARK and N2ARK but I thought some might  
think I was into drug enforcement and would toss my van looking for  
the evidence locker.

I plan to set up itinerant repeaters in the van on 2-meters and on  
GMRS using a Kenwood TKR 750 and a TKR 850.  They'll be simplex  
repeaters because of coordination problems on 2-meters and the  
absence of 467 MHz GMRS frequencies on the bubble-pack handhelds.   
Any suggestions?

Paul Noah Yonge, CBT
  W2ARKWQDY 219
  MIDLAKES REPEATER


On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Ken Arck wrote:

 At 07:42 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:


 I just found out that I got my vanity call sign.  Congratulations  
 to me!
 W2ARK WQDY219

 ---I tried to get AH6ARCK but.. g

 Ken
 -- 
 
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 Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
 http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
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 we offer complete repeater packages!
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Yonge
Dick -

That's a good idea.  I was thinking about a couple of six-packs of  
ARK Light in the cooler, though.

Paul W2ARK


On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Dick wrote:

 And to see where you're going, Paul, will you install an ARK LIGHT?

 (The devil made me do it!!!)

 Congrats  73,

 Dick W1NMZ






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:41 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:

I plan to set up itinerant repeaters in the van on 2-meters and on  
GMRS using a Kenwood TKR 750 and a TKR 850.  They'll be simplex  
repeaters because of coordination problems on 2-meters and the  
absence of 467 MHz GMRS frequencies on the bubble-pack handhelds.   
Any suggestions?

---How are you going to use (or more accurately, WHY are you going to use)
TKRs for simplex repeaters (I assume as in simplex, you mean
store-and-forward)

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Dick
Works for me!!  G

Dick

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Dick -

That's a good idea.  I was thinking about a couple of six-packs of  
ARK Light in the cooler, though.

Paul W2ARK


On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Dick wrote:

 And to see where you're going, Paul, will you install an ARK LIGHT?

 (The devil made me do it!!!)

 Congrats  73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Mike Pugh
Ken, I think you have the perfect callsign. (If you'd only have been a 
0 grinning and ducking! Mike

Ken Arck wrote:

 At 07:42 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 
 
I just found out that I got my vanity call sign.  Congratulations to me!
W2ARK WQDY219
 
 
 ---I tried to get AH6ARCK but.. g
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Offsets and Vanity

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Yonge
Ken -

Good question!  I guess my thinking was that, if I were using the  
repeaters in connection with critical incident response, having the  
flexibility of switching onto any of the 16 channels pre-programmed  
with different CTCSS tones would give me more flexibility in  
different areas of the state.  Maybe that's overkill?  What model  
would you suggest?

Paul  W2ARK


On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Ken Arck wrote:

 At 08:41 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:

 I plan to set up itinerant repeaters in the van on 2-meters and on
 GMRS using a Kenwood TKR 750 and a TKR 850.  They'll be simplex
 repeaters because of coordination problems on 2-meters and the
 absence of 467 MHz GMRS frequencies on the bubble-pack handhelds.
 Any suggestions?

 ---How are you going to use (or more accurately, WHY are you going  
 to use)
 TKRs for simplex repeaters (I assume as in simplex, you mean
 store-and-forward)

 Ken
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[Repeater-Builder] Simplex Repeaters

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Yonge
Ken -

In his document Simplex Repeater Guidelines at http:// 
members.cox.net/n1nte/simplex_repeater_guidelines.html, Rob N1NTE  
suggests an interesting emergency application that could easily be  
set up on the TKR 750:

If most of the local duplex repeaters have been knocked off the air,  
it may be desirable to set up the simplex repeater on the repeater's  
input/output pair.  This will somewhat mimic the disabled repeater's  
operation enough for communications to get through if the simplex  
repeater's receiver is listening to the duplexed repeaters' input and  
transmitting on its output.

Paul W2ARK


On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Ken Arck wrote:

 ---How are you going to use (or more accurately, WHY are you going  
 to use)
 TKRs for simplex repeaters (I assume as in simplex, you mean
 store-and-forward)

 Ken
 -- 
 
 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
 http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
 Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
 we offer complete repeater packages!
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp.net
  




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex Repeaters

2006-01-27 Thread Rick Charlotte
Icom had such a unit that would plug into your handi ..  I have one .. 

its a parrot repeater .. you talk in , it stores your voice, the out is 
comes 

also can be used to run a cheap repeater with 2 handies .. or 
mobiles  if needed .. 

great little box to bad thay are hard to find now a days  .. 

Rick



On 27 Jan 2006 at 21:48, Paul Yonge wrote:

 Ken -
 
 In his document Simplex Repeater Guidelines at http:// 
 members.cox.net/n1nte/simplex_repeater_guidelines.html, Rob N1NTE 
 suggests an interesting emergency application that could easily be 
 set up on the TKR 750:
 
 If most of the local duplex repeaters have been knocked off the air, 
 it may be desirable to set up the simplex repeater on the repeater's 
 input/output pair.  This will somewhat mimic the disabled repeater's 
 operation enough for communications to get through if the simplex 
 repeater's receiver is listening to the duplexed repeaters' input and 
 transmitting on its output.
 
 Paul W2ARK
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Ken Arck wrote:
 
  ---How are you going to use (or more accurately, WHY are you going 
  to use) TKRs for simplex repeaters (I assume as in simplex, you mean
  store-and-forward)
 
  Ken
  
  --  President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of
  state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
  http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood
  and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP
  Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] PL Board level

2006-01-27 Thread Dave VanHorn
I just picked up a little problem, my PL boards are dropping out 
sometimes when I have a valid PL.

Can anyone tell me offhand what the PL signal voltage should be at the 
input to the boards? (TS-32 in this case)  I have about 0.8Vpp, which I 
would have thought was enough.










 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Web Site Down?

2006-01-27 Thread Richard
I can't get to it either.
Richard, N7TGB

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Is the RB web site down?  For some reason I can not get to it tonight?

Jack
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[Repeater-Builder] GE ET59/ET60

2006-01-27 Thread George Csahanin
On the repeater-builder web site I found a link to LBI's and noted that 
one was needed for ET60/59. I scanned one this evening, and wanted to e-
mail it, but the web site is unavailable and need to know who to e-mail 
the file to. It is comprised of three pdf's and a bit over 3MB total. 
These are rev D. 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Web Site Down?

2006-01-27 Thread Steaven Rogers, W4YI
Richard wrote:

I can't get to it either.
Richard, N7TGB

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Is the RB web site down?  For some reason I can not get to it tonight?

Jack
K6YC



  

No problems from here.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Web Site Down?

2006-01-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks,

I thought I had a problem!

Jack
K6YC
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:11 PM
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I can't get to it either.
 Richard, N7TGB
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Davis
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:33 PM
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 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Web Site Down?
 
 
 Is the RB web site down?  For some reason I can not get to it tonight?
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread no6b
At 1/27/2006 11:34, you wrote:

In other words, they think they have the right to force THEIR bandplan on
all of the adjacent coordinators??!??!

I'd give my opinions, but they would be so profound and disgusting that
decorum prohibits listing them here (citing Animal House of course ;-).

 --- Jeff

I suggest taking your MIARC concerns to the NFCC.  One of the NFCC's 
functions is to help iron out disputes between adjacent 
coordinators.  Since MIARC is NFCC certified, it must adhere to NFCC 
standards in order to maintain certification.  Somehow I get the idea that 
the NFCC would frown upon any coordinator that simply says no to any 
adjacent coordination based on bandplan discontinuities.

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