[Repeater-Builder] Building a Icom repeater HELP !!!!

2006-03-31 Thread n6oei
Building a Icom repeater using two IC-f420 mobiles.. Where in the 
radio do I pull off the Dic-audio, COS or COR. is there a connection 
like on the motorola mobiles GM 300 and the 1225 radios???  They have 
a cable opc-617 does any one have the pinouts???

 Any info will halp, 
 Much Thanks
 matt
 N6OEI

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed

2006-03-31 Thread John J. Maurer





A schematic is available on the Repeater Builder 
website:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/pix/micor-ps-tpn-1106.jpg

73,John WØDP

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  help needed
  
  I am looking for information on the Micor station 
  " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast 
  aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis 
  as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as 
  powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these 
  supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? 
  Anyone have a print or any info?\
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Building a Icom repeater HELP !!!!

2006-03-31 Thread Gareth Bennett
No problems making a repeater with the F420's ... You can back to back the
radios with the OPC-617 and make a repeater or in band bi-directional link
with a simple crossover cable to pass Disc Audio to the Tx and COS to PTT
and vice versa... Also they will pass CTCSS.
I will dig out the pinouts for the crossover cable. Also you will need to
solder some pads in the radio's to configure the correct audio to the option
lead.
With the crossover lead it's pretty much plug in and go.
I'll get back to you

Regards
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Building a Icom repeater HELP 


 Building a Icom repeater using two IC-f420 mobiles.. Where in the
 radio do I pull off the Dic-audio, COS or COR. is there a connection
 like on the motorola mobiles GM 300 and the 1225 radios???  They have
 a cable opc-617 does any one have the pinouts???

  Any info will halp,
  Much Thanks
  matt
  N6OEI

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed

2006-03-31 Thread Rick Charlotte
I have the same PS , and it has the relay from Motorola .. so I would 
not say Hillbilly engineering ... its used to cut the bats out of the 
circuit when the voltage drops and wont let the bat drain all the way 
down 

I thikn thay where smart in doing that 


Rick



On 30 Mar 2006 at 23:38, Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote:

 Thanks Eric,
 I will get that one ordered...  the washing machine relay thing has
 always bothered me!  Just not into hillbilly engineering if there is a
 better way...  and once again you come through with the goods! 73 Mike
 K5JMP www.k5jmp.us
 
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   Lance,
 
   The manual you seek is still in print, and is available from
   Motorola
 Parts for $ 5.61.  It is publication 6881104E92.  It covers the
 TPN1105A and TPN1106A power supplies, as well as the optional battery
 protection and alarm system.  And yes, the battery connects directly
 to the same large Jones terminals as the PA.
 
   73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 
 
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   I am looking for information on the Micor station  battery charger
   power
 supply, TPN1106A. This unit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the
 rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well. This
 unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the
 station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies.
 For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone
 have a print or any info?\
   Lance Alfieri
   N2HBA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it?

2006-03-31 Thread Jim B.
Ron wrote:
 Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition.
 What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster
 antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link?
  I only have access to the building on the ground - not
 the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside.
 Need INPUT
 
 Thanks
 Ron

I don't know, but if it was that close to my antenna, I complain to the 
site owner.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it?

2006-03-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
And they'll likely tell you to take down the ham antenna.

Chuck



Jim B. wrote:
 Ron wrote:
   
 Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition.
 What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster
 antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link?
  I only have access to the building on the ground - not
 the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside.
 Need INPUT

 Thanks
 Ron
 

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 site owner.

   





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-31 Thread n . mckie

  Hi Tom, got it all copied for you ... 

  Need an address at this point - snail mail it to you ... 

  Neil 

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Anyone on the list have any info on this amp? 

Tom Saunders
Comm Tech, City of Seattle
Amateur Radio Station N7OEP
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-31 Thread Tom Saunders
Hi Neil,
Thanks a bunch for doing the copying. I'm good in QRZ, but here is my
home address:
Tom Saunders
5229- 23rd Ave S W
Seattle WA 98106-1369

Let me know how much I owe you and I'll get funds to you in whatever
form you want.

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Amateur Radio Station N7OEP
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Building a Icom repeater HELP !!!!

2006-03-31 Thread Richard W BAZELL JR
Hi Matt

I have the same Icoms that you Do. Bought them at Dayton Hamfest for $25
dollars a piece. Bought an Repeater interface ITS-10 
from EPCOM,along with the Programming Cable  software for less than a
$100 bill. it works great. Picked up a 4 can Motorola Cavity at
Geotgetown,Oh Hamfest for $100. use (T1501Al) works great with the
Hustler G6-440 Antenna.At 30 feet, my range is 16 Miles. I do use Andrew
Hardline. The ICS-10 is a complete Repeater Interface that plugs into
each Radio. Audio,Keying Cor, 3 second delay.
Years ago when I didn,t shake so bad. Would have done it the Hard Way.

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[Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle

2006-03-31 Thread n . mckie
 Original Message 
Subject: FW: amazing jigsaw puzzle
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:35:26 -0800

Not your usual jigsaw puzzle! This is amazing how it works while it
is moving all the time.  Can you assemble it on the gray area?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle

2006-03-31 Thread Paul Holm
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[Repeater-Builder] Anyone here who can answer a question about cabling?

2006-03-31 Thread tdettmann
I had a question from a friend which I can't answer ... I've never
heard what he's referring to. Is there anyone here who can confirm or
correct this:

One of our local repeaters has a popping noise that gets severe
during high wind conditions.  I have heard that LMR type coax can
cause this noise. Various reasons have been discussed including the
dis- similar metels between the inner and outer shield, also nicking
the copper clad on the center conductor.  I am told this condition
only occurs on a repeater using the same coax for Rx and Tx. The
repeater in question has a very clear signal when transmitting, the
noise only comes on while receiving a signal, both with and without
modulation.  This leads me to susspect the dis-similar metals theory.

I'd appreciate any insight you may have on the question, preferably
directly to me

Thanks in advance
Terry
WX7S







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone here who can answer a question about cabling?

2006-03-31 Thread Mike Perryman
Terry,
If you are using LMR for feed-line you will most likely have trouble
eventually.  But the problem you described sounds more like static
electricity build-up..  read this article..
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/static.html

mike


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone here who can answer a question about
cabling?


I had a question from a friend which I can't answer ... I've never
heard what he's referring to. Is there anyone here who can confirm or
correct this:

One of our local repeaters has a popping noise that gets severe
during high wind conditions.  I have heard that LMR type coax can
cause this noise. Various reasons have been discussed including the
dis- similar metels between the inner and outer shield, also nicking
the copper clad on the center conductor.  I am told this condition
only occurs on a repeater using the same coax for Rx and Tx. The
repeater in question has a very clear signal when transmitting, the
noise only comes on while receiving a signal, both with and without
modulation.  This leads me to susspect the dis-similar metals theory.

I'd appreciate any insight you may have on the question, preferably
directly to me

Thanks in advance
Terry
WX7S








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle

2006-03-31 Thread n . mckie

  Ok ... 

  Neil

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle

2006-03-31 Thread Mike Perryman
Neil,
It took about 1.5 minutes...  it is cute though!
mike

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  Ok ... 

  Neil

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone here who can answer a question about cabling?

2006-03-31 Thread Mike Morris
At 10:06 AM 03/31/06, you wrote:
I had a question from a friend which I can't answer ... I've never
heard what he's referring to. Is there anyone here who can confirm or
correct this:

One of our local repeaters has a popping noise that gets severe
during high wind conditions.  I have heard that LMR type coax can
cause this noise. Various reasons have been discussed including the
dis- similar metels between the inner and outer shield, also nicking
the copper clad on the center conductor.  I am told this condition
only occurs on a repeater using the same coax for Rx and Tx. The
repeater in question has a very clear signal when transmitting, the
noise only comes on while receiving a signal, both with and without
modulation.  This leads me to susspect the dis-similar metals theory.

I'd appreciate any insight you may have on the question, preferably
directly to me

Thanks in advance
Terry
WX7S

Check out these two pages:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/static.html
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/cracking.html

These pages are linked off the master index page for antennas, 
duplexers, isolators, etc
at http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/ant-sys-index.html

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[Repeater-Builder] LMR Feed line

2006-03-31 Thread skipp025
Hi Terry, 

Pretty much any coax, which moves will cause some noise, even 
hard line.  Some of the problem is related to the shielding 
value, the dilectric and conductor material, amount of 
movement, type of termination (antenna  equipment at both 
ends of the line), weather, nearby and distant objects...
yadda, yadda, yadda (not the Food Network Giada - pronounced 
similar to yadda) 

I don't like or use LMR Feed line in new installs, I've had 
summer heat kill a new install in 3 months. The noise issue 
is not exclusive to LMR feed lines, but it seems to get a 
serious amount of credit when using said line. Real 1/2 
hardline is not really that much more money and seems to be 
really cheap on ebay if you search around. 

You could put a termination (dummy load) in place of the 
antenna to test for static buildup as mentioned by others 
here in the group. 

You didn't say what type of antenna you're using. 
I would first lean toward dealing with the antenna first 
if it's a fiberglass unit.  Even in the current wet weather 
we're having on the West Coast, one of the fiberglass antennas 
I have on a system pops like crazy when it's windy. We 
plan to change the antenna out for a dipole array if 
the rain would ever quit. 

cheers,
skipp 

 One of our local repeaters has a popping noise that gets severe
 during high wind conditions.  I have heard that LMR type coax can
 cause this noise. Various reasons have been discussed including the
 dis- similar metels between the inner and outer shield, also nicking
 the copper clad on the center conductor.  I am told this condition
 only occurs on a repeater using the same coax for Rx and Tx. The
 repeater in question has a very clear signal when transmitting, the
 noise only comes on while receiving a signal, both with and without
 modulation.  This leads me to susspect the dis-similar metals theory.
 
 I'd appreciate any insight you may have on the question, preferably
 directly to me
 
 Thanks in advance
 Terry
 WX7S








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle

2006-03-31 Thread Bob Dengler
At 3/31/2006 10:46 AM, you wrote:
My blocked senders list is getting fuller.

At least it's only a harmless link.  People who embed silly graphics at the 
end of their messages that cause Eudora to bog down get blocked here, 
especially when they won't take them out after being politely asked to.

BTW if you reply to such a message, please do me a favor  take the silly 
graphics out of the replies.  Thanks.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Plan info on handheld coverage in Business Band for 60 miles or so

2006-03-31 Thread skipp025
Do you want or need handheld (portable) coverage inside 
and outside the store?  What is the general operating 
area of the radios?  

skipp 

 n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have four stores that is spread over nearly a 60 mile radius.   The 
 first store is about 40 air miles from my store, and then from my 
 store to the next store is about 17 air miles, and again from that 
 store is 17 miles or so.  From store one to store 4, there is about 60 
 air miles between them.  Locating the repeater here at my home about 
 100', it will be on UHF.  Using mobile radios, they would all be able 
 to reach the repeater, but I would like to enhance it somehow that the 
 handhelds would be able to be used between the stores.  Any thoughts 
 on a plan that would work for this.  I have to keep cost to minimum.  
 We do have DSL at all 4 stores.  Thanks.
 
 Mathew
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