Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Antennas
Tnx Nate... If you can I'd shake the antenna while it is hot, while a weak signal is on the repeater input... that'll tell you real quick...as you probably know, dioding from anything loose really raises hell with repeaters... also dis-similar metals moving Just to clarify... yes it is the VHF 210-C4 variety, the new ones made within the past 5 yrs or so that I am talking about... we have also had some trouble with the SRL2330 VHF duplexers, while the specs say 600khz you really have to struggle to get em and keep em there with any decent (-80db or better/side for the 6 can variety) rejection at a decent insertion loss -1.5db. Notch (reject) caps go seen to go bad prematurely, especially if you screw on em a few too many times. The inside scoop suggests that those duplexers should not be used at that close a spacing... so we went out and spent some serious coin and are now replacing everything with new Daniels and Comprod equipment getting tired of running up and down the hill every other day fixing junk that's long outlived it's natural lifespan that old service monitor/spectrum analyser I have is getting heavier by the day. 73 Richard VA7AA - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Antennas Richard wrote: snip Anyone have experiences over the past few years? Particularly the 4 bay open dipole collinear variety of which we almost exclusivly use. Richard VA7AA We have a VHF Sinclair that we're investigating, but I can't say that we have any hard evidence yet that we have a failure at the antenna. I'm more suspicious of other things right now, but we're seeing more reflected power back than we should from our new Sinclair on a VHF system. It was deployed 2 summers ago. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/347 - Release Date: 5/24/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller
Okay guys. This is my first repeater project ever. I am not sure if I have chosen the right equipment or not, but here goes nothing. I have two Moto GM300 UHF radios that I want to use for the repeater. I have been looking at the CAT200 controller for the repeater. I have not found any information on the CAT as far as DTMF knockdown. I want to be able to shut down the repeater from my HT while away from the repeater in order to stay in compliance with FCC in the event that some jackass gets on the machine and starts showing his level of education with language. Anyone have any ideas on the pin connection and if the CAT200 can shutdown the repeater? Thanks for everything guys. Dan Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS encoder
I found my problem. I was just getting a couple of horizontal lines of the file when I did finally get it downloaded, including the copy that was sent via the list. I have been using Adobe Reader 5 and it reads the other Com Spec files all OK. I upgraded to Adobe Reader 6 and my problems went away. I guess that when the SS-64 file was encoded it used features in Ver 6 that the other files did not use. In any case - I am all set, and my encoder is identified. Thanks again to the list - 73 - Jim W5ZIT At 07:06 PM 05/24/06, you wrote: I took a look at the SS-64 on line and sure enough, my unit matches that picture. For some reason I can't download the PDF file from Com Spec - it is blocked by both Netscape and IE. I can get the TS-64 all OK, but not the SS-64. Try the copy here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/com-spec/com-spec-index.html I would guess the encode switches for selecting the tone are the same as a TS-64. If not, they are on the sheet. (rest deleted for brevity) Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Dayton
Well, I finally have a couple of minutes to say it was good to meet up with Kevin, Ken, and Robin, K4IDC. I missed a lot of people though, and couldn't get to the RB dinner. I was specifically trying to meet up with Skipp, Dave K (was gonna pick up 2.04f for someone), and Andy Seybold, but, well, you know how it can be down there...hopefully next year Did get to play around on 900 Mhz, amazing how much better 900 covers inside (playing AEGIS was cool too). But it was also amazing how well the RB rptr worked a ways off grounds. With our mobile rig, 15W and an on-glass MFJ, I first brought it up, noisy, near WPAFB on I-70...DFQ at our hotel in Englewood...what does that say? -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller
Dan, If you are purchasing a controller use the Link Communications controllers. RLC-1 or even a RLC-4 is the way I would go. Mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of danryant Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller Okay guys. This is my first repeater project ever. I am not sure if I have chosen the right equipment or not, but here goes nothing. I have two Moto GM300 UHF radios that I want to use for the repeater. I have been looking at the CAT200 controller for the repeater. I have not found any information on the CAT as far as DTMF knockdown. I want to be able to shut down the repeater from my HT while away from the repeater in order to stay in compliance with FCC in the event that some jackass gets on the machine and starts showing his level of education with language. Anyone have any ideas on the pin connection and if the CAT200 can shutdown the repeater? Thanks for everything guys. Dan Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller
Mike Mullarkey wrote: Dan, If you are purchasing a controller use the Link Communications controllers. RLC-1 or even a RLC-4 is the way I would go. Mike Well, let's not get into this-vs-that... In answer to Dan's question, I have not seen a made-for-amateur controller that _doesn't_ have a repeat disable function of some sort. It might be called several things, including transmit disable, path disable, or other things. But it's there somewhere. That, identification, and a time-out timer are the reasons for having a controller in the first place. In that order. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise
Has anyone experience with eliminating noise fom the metalwork of a wind up tower? Our tower has 4 sections and is of the type where all sections raise at once with a single cable pulley system. The Machine is a Nokia BRS150 using a Sinclair Duplexer on 145.7625/1625 Antenna is Jaybeam Folded Dipole with its own RG214 tail into 60 ft of LDF450. When you shake the trailer mounted tower there is severe crackling on weak signals. The three stays have been tightened up as far as possible. Any Ideas on how to kill this noise guys? Ian Ashford G8PWE Central England UK Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller
A quick check of the manual online shows zone 1 channel one to be repeater transmit What this means (in cat-speak) is that by toggling this channel back and forth, you can internally make or break the PTT connection between the repeater and transmitter. That's what you are looking for. 73 Mike KA4MKG Jim B. wrote: Mike Mullarkey wrote: Dan, If you are purchasing a controller use the Link Communications controllers. RLC-1 or even a RLC-4 is the way I would go. Mike Well, let's not get into this-vs-that... In answer to Dan's question, I have not seen a made-for-amateur controller that _doesn't_ have a repeat disable function of some sort. It might be called several things, including transmit disable, path disable, or other things. But it's there somewhere. That, identification, and a time-out timer are the reasons for having a controller in the first place. In that order. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Fwd: Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS encoder]
I am sending this again as it never showed up here reflected from the group. Original Message Subject:Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS encoder Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:18:21 -0500 From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found my problem. I was just getting a couple of horizontal lines of the file when I did finally get it downloaded, including the copy that was sent via the list. I have been using Adobe Reader 5 and it reads the other Com Spec files all OK. I upgraded to Adobe Reader 6 and my problems went away. I guess that when the SS-64 file was encoded it used features in Ver 6 that the other files did not use. In any case - I am all set, and my encoder is identified. Thanks again to the list - 73 - Jim W5ZIT At 07:06 PM 05/24/06, you wrote: I took a look at the SS-64 on line and sure enough, my unit matches that picture. For some reason I can't download the PDF file from Com Spec - it is blocked by both Netscape and IE. I can get the TS-64 all OK, but not the SS-64. Try the copy here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/com-spec/com-spec-index.html I would guess the encode switches for selecting the tone are the same as a TS-64. If not, they are on the sheet. (rest deleted for brevity) Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need a manual Palomar Kachina
A quick trip down memory lane... Though for a moment you were talking about the Palomar Kachina. (26 to 54 MHz radio... yes CB through 6 meters) Not many were made but I still have mine... some day I'll get the darn thing working and drift across the band as it would never stay in one place very long. cheers, skipp Com/Rad Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In need of tech inf on a Military Man PAck Kachina HF-25 .pdf file will work Thanks Ed Folta Com/Rad Inc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS encoder]
Jim, it did show up in the reflector. I rcvd it FB. 73, Dick - Original Message - From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 25 May, 2006 08:10 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS encoder] I am sending this again as it never showed up here reflected from the group. Original Message Subject:Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS encoder Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:18:21 -0500 From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found my problem. I was just getting a couple of horizontal lines of the file when I did finally get it downloaded, including the copy that was sent via the list. I have been using Adobe Reader 5 and it reads the other Com Spec files all OK. I upgraded to Adobe Reader 6 and my problems went away. I guess that when the SS-64 file was encoded it used features in Ver 6 that the other files did not use. In any case - I am all set, and my encoder is identified. Thanks again to the list - 73 - Jim W5ZIT At 07:06 PM 05/24/06, you wrote: I took a look at the SS-64 on line and sure enough, my unit matches that picture. For some reason I can't download the PDF file from Com Spec - it is blocked by both Netscape and IE. I can get the TS-64 all OK, but not the SS-64. Try the copy here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/com-spec/com-spec-index.html I would guess the encode switches for selecting the tone are the same as a TS-64. If not, they are on the sheet. (rest deleted for brevity) Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise
First thought is, don't shake the tower! :^) On second thought this is a common occurance for telescoping towers in my experience. I'm not familiar with the quality or construction of your tower however, I have been able to reduce the noise two ways: first, bond the tower and trailer together AND to earth whenever you erect it. If you float the tower and trailer on their rubber tires the assembly can become energized by the radiated RF energy and thus emit RF noise themselves. Second, I grease the travelling surfaces of my tower sections with a conductive grease, preferably waterproof as well so it doesn't immediately wash off with the first rain or morning dew. Beyond that I would say try to identify the offending components of the tower or trailer and focus on those especially. Gary IM Ashford wrote: Has anyone experience with eliminating noise fom the metalwork of a wind up tower? Our tower has 4 sections and is of the type where all sections raise at once with a single cable pulley system. The Machine is a Nokia BRS150 using a Sinclair Duplexer on 145.7625/1625 Antenna is Jaybeam Folded Dipole with its own RG214 tail into 60 ft of LDF450. When you shake the trailer mounted tower there is severe crackling on weak signals. The three stays have been tightened up as far as possible. Any Ideas on how to kill this noise guys? Ian Ashford G8PWE Central England UK Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller
As someone else already posted, Zone 1, channel 1, is the repeater enable/disable command. If the controller is set for default operation, the command 100110 will turn this channel off, and it won't repeat until you turn it back on with the command 100111. That's about the only command you really need to memorize. If you set the receiver to require PL or DPL, that will keep most of the foolish users off when you're not able to listen. In practice, you'll get very tired of turning the repeater on and off. Get more people interested in it and they too can be control operators. Eventually you'll just leave it on all the time (like 99.999% of all the other repeaters in the world). I have three of these controllers, and two are running with MaxTrac/Radius radios, all via the front panel RJ45 MIC jack. I added a COR circuit (one transistor, one resistor) inside the receive radios which comes out on pin 1 of the MIC jack; that simplifies the wiring considerably as you don't need the accessory jack at all. The wiring is very straight forward. Remember that the GM300, like all of Motorola's mobile radios, is not meant to operate continuously as a repeater transmitter, so don't run it at full output power and definitely add a high volume fan blowing on the heatsink. Bob M. == --- danryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay guys. This is my first repeater project ever. I am not sure if I have chosen the right equipment or not, but here goes nothing. I have two Moto GM300 UHF radios that I want to use for the repeater. I have been looking at the CAT200 controller for the repeater. I have not found any information on the CAT as far as DTMF knockdown. I want to be able to shut down the repeater from my HT while away from the repeater in order to stay in compliance with FCC in the event that some jackass gets on the machine and starts showing his level of education with language. Anyone have any ideas on the pin connection and if the CAT200 can shutdown the repeater? Thanks for everything guys. Dan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Antennas
va7aa wrote: Tnx Nate... If you can I'd shake the antenna while it is hot, while a weak signal is on the repeater input... that'll tell you real quick...as you probably know, dioding from anything loose really raises hell with repeaters... also dis-similar metals moving We haven't heard anything that sounds like a shake it type failure. No crackles, etc. The antenna is side-mounted so it doesn't move a whole lot, but the site is very windy at times. Well over 50 MPH with gusts above that. The 6m antenna has a whip section on top, for example, and it was pushed over into the tower hard enough to get stuck there this winter. (Yeah, we're going to swap it for something a little more stout, probably. It's on the list of things to-do...) Just to clarify... yes it is the VHF 210-C4 variety, the new ones made within the past 5 yrs or so that I am talking about... Understand. I just figured I'd say hello and let you know we have something possibly wrong on one of our systems using a newer one, but nothing that points to the antenna yet. Just to keep in touch. I highly doubt our problem is the antenna, but guessing isn't knowing. we have also had some trouble with the SRL2330 VHF duplexers, while the specs say 600khz you really have to struggle to get em and keep em there with any decent (-80db or better/side for the 6 can variety) rejection at a decent insertion loss -1.5db. Notch (reject) caps go seen to go bad prematurely, especially if you screw on em a few too many times. The inside scoop suggests that those duplexers should not be used at that close a spacing... so we went out and spent some serious coin and are now replacing everything with new Daniels and Comprod equipment No newer (or older) Sinclair duplexers in service here that I remember. Can't comment on any of that. getting tired of running up and down the hill every other day fixing junk that's long outlived it's natural lifespan that old service monitor/spectrum analyser I have is getting heavier by the day. Heh... yep. One of our members did that big job a few years ago, swapping everything out for Mastr II stations... etc. Took a lot more time and effort than anyone but us techies gave him credit for, and we're all enjoying the benefits now -- everything's solid as a rock -- other than the ()*[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Kendecomm 220 MHz repeater which was recently found to be 3.3 KHz off-frequency. (Which seems about right for the quality level of the components I found inside and their age.) Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise
Someone else already had good comments about bonding and the general difficulty telescoping antenna supports can be in this type of situation, but I'm also wondering if you're parking it in high RF fields (besides your own RF)? Are there other large transmitters around - broadcast, etc.? Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise
Might try lubricating the moving parts of the tower with carbon conductive grease... the carbon variety is available from MG Chemicals, is fairly cheap and is commonly used for RFI suppression. VA7AA - Original Message - From: IM Ashford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise Has anyone experience with eliminating noise fom the metalwork of a wind up tower? Our tower has 4 sections and is of the type where all sections raise at once with a single cable pulley system. The Machine is a Nokia BRS150 using a Sinclair Duplexer on 145.7625/1625 Antenna is Jaybeam Folded Dipole with its own RG214 tail into 60 ft of LDF450. When you shake the trailer mounted tower there is severe crackling on weak signals. The three stays have been tightened up as far as possible. Any Ideas on how to kill this noise guys? Ian Ashford G8PWE Central England UK Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 5/25/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise
Hi Ian,Sorry for sounding obvious, but have you checked the coax, connectors and the antenna for loose or poor connections, if they all check out why not try grounding the tower with an earth spike.TrevorM3TPXIO93HE, UKIM Ashford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone experience with eliminating noise fom the metalwork of a wind uptower?Our tower has 4 sections and is of the type where all sections raise at oncewith a single cable pulley system.The Machine is a Nokia BRS150 using a Sinclair Duplexer on 145.7625/1625Antenna is Jaybeam Folded Dipole with its own RG214 tail into 60 ft ofLDF450.When you shake the trailer mounted tower there is severe crackling on weaksignals. The three stays have beentightened up as far as possible.Any Ideas on how to kill this noise guys?Ian AshfordG8PWECentral EnglandUK Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1ยข/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site for our new club repeater
Cna anyone tell me where to start? is there a standard form letter to send to hi-rise buildings, or existing site owners? I see from other posts that there are some comercial sites that have amateur rates, who are they? I am in the West Palm Beach area and am looking for a site in north central Palm Beach county. Thanks Rob KS4EC Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site for our new club repeater
Lots of info can be found on www.repeater-builder.com in regards to site contracts, things to look for, etc. Probably nothing location-specific, like where the good, cheap sites are. You're gonna have to start listening and asking around to find those. I thought Florida was so flat, you didn't need anything higher than 30 ft?!?!?! Bob M. == --- ks4ec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cna anyone tell me where to start? is there a standard form letter to send to hi-rise buildings, or existing site owners? I see from other posts that there are some comercial sites that have amateur rates, who are they? I am in the West Palm Beach area and am looking for a site in north central Palm Beach county. Thanks Rob KS4EC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site for our new club repeater
Rob, You can also go to www.fccinfo.com and by entering a set of coordinates, do a within search for antenna structure registrations (ASR). From there you can pull the site contact info and what-not... it will give you a place to start anyway.. It doesn't cost anything, and is updated daily.. we maintain it for our broadcast clients, but is there for anyone to use. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site for our new club repeater Lots of info can be found on www.repeater-builder.com in regards to site contracts, things to look for, etc. Probably nothing location-specific, like where the good, cheap sites are. You're gonna have to start listening and asking around to find those. I thought Florida was so flat, you didn't need anything higher than 30 ft?!?!?! Bob M. == --- ks4ec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cna anyone tell me where to start? is there a standard form letter to send to hi-rise buildings, or existing site owners? I see from other posts that there are some comercial sites that have amateur rates, who are they? I am in the West Palm Beach area and am looking for a site in north central Palm Beach county. Thanks Rob KS4EC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site
No more .. too many [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi-rise obstacles ;-) /. Bob M. wrote: I thought Florida was so flat, you didn't need anything higher than 30 ft?!?!?! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wind up tower noise
At 5/25/2006 08:01 AM, you wrote: Has anyone experience with eliminating noise fom the metalwork of a wind up tower? Our tower has 4 sections and is of the type where all sections raise at once with a single cable pulley system. The Machine is a Nokia BRS150 using a Sinclair Duplexer on 145.7625/1625 Antenna is Jaybeam Folded Dipole with its own RG214 tail into 60 ft of LDF450. When you shake the trailer mounted tower there is severe crackling on weak signals. The three stays have been tightened up as far as possible. Any Ideas on how to kill this noise guys? I help maintain a system using a similar tower configuration. Right now we have no desense problems at all. The duplexer has 3 pass-notch cans on the RX, and 2 pass-notch cans + 1 pass only on the TX. The antenna is the 8 ft. TRAM dual-band sold by Repeater-Builder, it's mounted ~15 ft. above the top of the tower on a mast. IMO the key to eliminating desense when using a less-than-ideal tower is to keep the TX noise to a minimum, raise the antenna well above the top of the tower to prevent coupling to the loose sections, and choose an antenna that's well decoupled from the feedline for the same reason; apparently the TRAM does well in this regard. I'm not familiar with the Jaybeam folded dipole but if it has no balun, then the problem could be RF flowing down your feedline coupling into the tower. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Executive II Help on changing 440 Xcvr to 2 Xcvr for Crossband Operation
At 5/24/2006 03:51 PM, you wrote: I have a slew of Ge Mastr Executive II radios that I want to take the 2 meter reciever and place into the 440 Mhz transmitter to make them crossband for link radios for remote recieve sites. These are the Canadian versions so no mods are needed for the units to work in the ham band. No mods are needed for U.S. versions either, so long as the last 2 numbers on the model plate are 88 (UHF), 56 or 66 (VHF). 56 is the VHF model that's actually spec'd to cover 2 meters, but the 66 radio should cover it all too. I've had some issues with some 66 exciters not quite making it down to 144.39 for APRS, but above 145 you should be OK. What you want to do sounds real easy: just swap the RXs between 88 66 radios. Also, if someone has a link or possibly a location to be able to identify which radio is what by the COMB number this would be helpful as well. This should help: http://www.hallelectronics.com/getech/053.htm Also if anyone has a service manual they would be willing to let go of, I could use one of them as well. Check the Mastr list of PDF'd manuals at the Repeater-Builder website. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] gm300 with cat200 controller
Dan - Go www.batlabs.com They have info on the pinouts of the 16 pin accy. connector. You need ground from both, of course, Flat audio and COR from receiver, and PTT and TX audio to the transmitter. You may also need a pull-up resistor on the COS line, about 2.5K ohms. Manual for the Cat 200 is at www.catauto.com. It will specify pinout of the connector for hookup. As another poster said, these are NOT rated for high duty cycle, and should be run at about 50% power out on the transmitter. PL is almost always necessary, unless you live way out in the boonies. PL can be programmed into the radios, eliminating having to buy a tone board. I'm sure these radios are not the BEST, but they'll work, and work well. Don't scrimpon the antenna, feedline, or duplexer, though. Read the articles at www.repeater-builder.com 73 Chas, KB3CEZ Okay guys. This is my first repeater project ever. I am not sure if I have chosen the right equipment or not, but here goes nothing. I have two Moto GM300 UHF radios that I want to use for the repeater. I have been looking at the CAT200 controller for the repeater. I have not found any information on the CAT as far as DTMF knockdown. I want to be able to shut down the repeater from my HT while away from the repeater in order to stay in compliance with FCC in the event that some jackass gets on the machine and starts showing his level of education with language. Anyone have any ideas on the pin connection and if the CAT200 can shutdown the repeater? Thanks for everything guys. Dan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Executive II Help on changing 440 Xcvr to 2 Xcvr for Crossband Operation
Bob Dengler wrote: At 5/24/2006 03:51 PM, you wrote: I have a slew of Ge Mastr Executive II radios that I want to take the 2 meter reciever and place into the 440 Mhz transmitter to make them crossband for link radios for remote recieve sites. These are the Canadian versions so no mods are needed for the units to work in the ham band. No mods are needed for U.S. versions either, so long as the last 2 numbers on the model plate are 88 (UHF), 56 or 66 (VHF). 56 is the VHF model that's actually spec'd to cover 2 meters, but the 66 radio should cover it all too. I've had some issues with some 66 exciters not quite making it down to 144.39 for APRS, but above 145 you should be OK. What you want to do sounds real easy: just swap the RXs between 88 66 radios. If these are from Canada, there is a good chance they are 77s (403-420) instead of 88s (450-470). Depending on where in the UHF band you want to use them, it may or may not be a simple re-tune. Ed Yoho WA6RQD Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: gm300 with cat200 controller
Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. It's nice to see so many people out here willing to help out! One last thing. Can anyone provide me with the wireing schematic for the cat200 controller hookup up to the gm300 repeater? Thanks again. All this pin and port stuff in confusing to me. LOL thanks Dan RYant Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Two Meters.....
I have an interesting thing happening on our two meter repeater. We have what appears to be a blanking white noise that is present on the input. The repeater is a split site system with a 440 link from the two meter receiver site over to the transmitter site about 2000ft away. There are no duplexers in the system to cause problems. The link on 440 is clean of any noise, so we are quite confident the link is not a problem. On two meters, when a signal is anything less than full quiteing, we get a white noise that will almost mask the audio. We have tried different receivers such as the GE MVS and now a GE Master II. We have removed the preamplifier with minimal results. The receivers have excellent sensitivity and the tuning process of the receivers is correct. We have also tried putting pass cavities ahead of the receiver with no appreciable change. The antenna is a DB-224 mounted on a broadcast tower just below the bays of an FM broadcast commercial transmitter. We have turned OFF the fm broadcast transmitter at times to check if perhaps this was the problem but no change was noted. ANY IDEAS from anyone??? THANKS! Gary - W5GNB Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] GR500 HLN3333 RICK Problems
I'm in the military, I'm trying to get a repeater working for the IP. I have a pretty good understanding of how to program the system, but I'm not getting the repeater to transmit a duplex set of frequencies. Equipment GR500 Repeater HLN (R.I.C.K.) (2) UHF Antennas (2) GM160 Radios Using two UHF frequencies. For my example, I'll use A and B TX = A, RX = B The repeater should Receive on the TX freq A. It should transmit on the freq B. For the receive radio, I set it up as a receive only personality For the transmit radio, I set it up as a transmit only personality Here are where my questions begin. 1) There are two radios that are part of the repeater. Rptr RX and Rptr TX. What should the settings be on the Rptr RX radio? (RX = A, TX = B) 2) Following in the footsteps of the previous question, Rptr TX should be (RX = B, TX = B)??? 3) I have tried tweaking the configuration settings for both radios, but I can't get the darned reapeater to transmit. I can see the receive radio receive the signal, but the transmit radio doesn't key out. - The repeater enable button is depressed, the microphone shorting RJ-45 jacks are inserted. Do I have to do some additional programming on the RICK itself? Should I pull it apart and start messing with jumpers? If anyone has any idea, or good points of contact or references for me, I would greatly appreciate it. (So would the Iraqi Police) V/r, CommO Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
