Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control
John P Slusser wrote: Thanks. I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit. If that doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder. I'm going to try to link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access. This will be a first for me. I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with the Kenwood and might share a method. John in Tucson I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There is one or two that can be used. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Rgr. I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module responsible for encoding. And that signal originates in the tone panel as you mention. I'm going to test that theory first. Also, I want to see how disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio. I still may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful. Thanks. WD7F John in Tucson Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control
Thanks Juan. If I understand you correctly, it should work as I speculate. John in Tucson - Original Message - From: Juan Tellez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control The green wire is the encode tone, just ground it or put a SPST switch of your choice and control it with your controller or with COR from the receiver, myself do it from the controller, and for not using any of the outputs, I use the audio switch voltage that control the repeat audio so it will be active with appropriate signal at the repeater input. Hope this info helps. Juan Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control John P Slusser wrote: Thanks. I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit. If that doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder. I'm going to try to link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access. This will be a first for me. I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with the Kenwood and might share a method. John in Tucson Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control
Yes, I have the PDF manual. Thanks anyway. de WD7F John in Tucson - Original Message - From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control John, Do you have the manual for this repeater? (Sorry - I've been only kinda following this thread...) If not, I have it in PDF on my ftp server. Let me know if you need access to it and I can set it up for you. E-mail direct to: n9wys at ameritech dot net Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control John P Slusser wrote: Thanks. I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit. If that doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder. I'm going to try to link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access. This will be a first for me. I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with the Kenwood and might share a method. John in Tucson I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There is one or two that can be used. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Rgr. I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module responsible for encoding. And that signal originates in the tone panel as you mention. I'm going to test that theory first. Also, I want to see how disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio. I still may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful. Thanks. WD7F John in Tucson Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control
Yeah...I may use a relay. The TX PL EN wasn't the thing I needed. However, the green wire was it. (Thanks Juan) I figure it's not a big deal to short it out because it's the wiper of a 47K pot, not the direct output of an amp. I tried it this evening and it works. The signal level was about 170 mV nominal. Now, I have to switch it with COR which is available in that module too. So, I'm thinking I'll use a reed relay to do the job. It should be quick enough. What's good about it is the regular PL works as advertised while DPL can be switched on with COR. So the plan is to link with DPL and let the repeater do it's regular thing with PL. Thanks Skipp. de WD7F John - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control The green wire is the encode tone, just ground it or put a SPST switch of your choice and control it with your controller or with COR from the receiver, I vote for the relay spdt or dpdt method... even using a 4.7k resistor as a termination. Maybe not in this case... but it's not always wise to ground an (audio) amplifier output. A 220pf disc cap over the 4.7k load resistor keep stray rf under control. cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/