Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-25 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson


John P Slusser wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit.  If that
 doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder.  I'm going to try to
 link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access.  This will be a
 first for me.  I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with
 the Kenwood and might share a method.

 John in Tucson

I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one
of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the
repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able
to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground
when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a
spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There
is one or two that can be used.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Rgr.  I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module
responsible for encoding.  And that signal originates in the tone panel as
you mention.  I'm going to test that theory first.  Also, I want to see how
disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio.  I still
may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful.

Thanks.
WD7F
John in Tucson











 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-25 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Thanks Juan.  If I understand you correctly, it should work as I speculate.
John in Tucson

- Original Message - 
From: Juan Tellez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control


The green wire is the encode tone, just ground it or put a SPST switch
of your choice and control it with your controller or with COR from the
receiver, myself do it from the controller, and for not using any of the
outputs, I use the audio switch voltage that control the repeat audio so it
will be active with appropriate signal at the repeater input.

Hope this info helps.

Juan


Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control

John P Slusser wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit.  If that
 doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder.  I'm going to try to
 link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access.  This will be a
 first for me.  I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with
 the Kenwood and might share a method.

 John in Tucson






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-25 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Yes, I have the PDF manual. Thanks anyway.
de WD7F
John in Tucson

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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control


John,

Do you have the manual for this repeater?  (Sorry - I've been only kinda
following this thread...)  If not, I have it in PDF on my ftp server.  Let
me know if you need access to it and I can set it up for you.

E-mail direct to:
n9wys at ameritech dot net

Mark - N9WYS

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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control



John P Slusser wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit.  If that
 doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder.  I'm going to try to
 link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access.  This will be a
 first for me.  I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with
 the Kenwood and might share a method.

 John in Tucson

I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one
of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the
repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able
to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground
when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a
spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There
is one or two that can be used.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Rgr.  I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module
responsible for encoding.  And that signal originates in the tone panel as
you mention.  I'm going to test that theory first.  Also, I want to see how
disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio.  I still
may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful.

Thanks.
WD7F
John in Tucson







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-25 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Yeah...I may use a relay.  The TX PL EN wasn't the thing I needed.  However,
the green wire was it.  (Thanks Juan) I figure it's not a big deal to
short it out because it's the wiper of a 47K pot, not the direct output of
an amp.  I tried it this evening and it works.   The signal level was about
170 mV nominal.  Now, I have to switch it with COR which is available in
that module too.  So, I'm thinking I'll use a reed relay to do the job.  It
should be quick enough.  What's good about it is the regular PL works as
advertised while DPL can be switched on with COR.   So the plan is to link
with DPL and let the repeater do it's regular thing with PL.

Thanks Skipp.
de WD7F
John


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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control



 The green wire is the encode tone, just ground it or put
 a SPST switch of your choice and control it with your
 controller or with COR from the receiver,

I vote for the relay spdt or dpdt method... even using a 4.7k
resistor as a termination.  Maybe not in this case... but
it's not always wise to ground an (audio) amplifier output. A
220pf disc cap over the 4.7k load resistor keep stray rf under
control.

cheers,
skipp









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