[Repeater-Builder] Glenayre T8500
Hello, all... I have posted this to the AR902 group also, but I hope the combined knowledge of this group - along with AR902 - can assist me. I have made arangements to purchase the following: Glenayre BFLGL-T8500 900 Mhz Paging Base complete with the following components: GL-2000 TX Controller, B/U Battery, GL-S2164 Sat Receiver, Exciter/PA Control, Power Amp, all housed in a cabinet. My plan is to convert it to a 900 MHz ham repeater. Finding information on ANY Glenayre so far has been difficult. I am told that conversion is fairly easy, but I'd like to converse with people who have done this - mainly so I avoid any hazards that may pop-up along the way. ;-) I am available to discuss either here on list or, if you prefer, off list at: n9wys ameritech (dot) net Thanks! Mark - N9WYS
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
At 02:18 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote: > > Yes, the TA remains "hot" but I need flat audio. I > > can call Kenwood tomorrow > > but was hoping to finish this tonight. It could be a > > firmware problem. I > > can't imagine why they would purposely mute the line > > when QT encode is > > programmed. <---My understanding is that this is deliberate; the rationale being that only reason you'd want to use the TD input is for "data", such as an external CTCSS/DCS or other tone-type encoding that requires non preemphasis. I'm not saying I agree with that. Then again, I'm not a Kenwood Engineer either! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
There is a place in the programming where you can make the TA audio "flat". I will try to find where it is in the programming, and let you know here. Joe --- Yahoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, the TA remains "hot" but I need flat audio. I > can call Kenwood tomorrow > but was hoping to finish this tonight. It could be a > firmware problem. I > can't imagine why they would purposely mute the line > when QT encode is > programmed. > > Jeff > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Ken Arck > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:17 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2 > > At 06:05 PM 1/23/2007, you wrote: > > >I have a TKR-750v2 base/repeater and attempting to > connect it to a > >DSP223 control panel. The problem I am having is if > the base is > >programmed with encode QT/DQT it mutes the (TD) TX > data input line when > >the (EPTT) External PTT is used. Hoping someone has > run into this. > > <---Are you wanting to use flat audio in and that's > why you're using the TD > for audio instead of TA? > > Ken > > -- > President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of > the world famous RC210 > Repeater Controller and accessories. > http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we > offer complete repeater > packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > > > > > Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Mobile Programming Issue
It is the mobile GTXknew i left out a detail. Andy KC2GOW - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
[Repeater-Builder] Still looking for
Hi Still looking for a cheap NHRC controller. NHRC 3 or 4 and the person selling it would post to the UK. I did get offered one, replied but heard nothing back. Thanks Steve
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue
As he stated later on, his cable worked with a MaxTrac and a GM300. Both of these are mobiles, so I think it's safe to assume that his GTX is a mobile as well as they all use the same RJ45 programming cable. Bob M. == --- Danny Musten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mobile or Portable? The portable needs to be > powered, if so. > More than likely it has been programmed with a newer > RSS as Mike said. > Danny KD4RAA > > On 1/24/07, Mike Perryman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sounds like someone may have used a newer version > of RSS than yours they are not backward > compatible... That is the only guess I would > have... > > > > > > 73 > > Mike Perryman > > www.k5jmp.us > > > > -Original Message- > > From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of AndrewG. > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:48 PM > > To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder]Motorola GTX900 > Programming Issue > > > > > > I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to > program. It does not want tocommunicate with > either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried > RSS 1, 2,and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting > Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC isworking > since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac > and GM300 with noproblem. Any Ideas? > > > > Thanks > > Andy KC2GOW Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue
I would expect that even an older version would still read the radio and just come up with a "model not found" error if it was too old. Did this radio EVER get programmed properly at your house? The programming line doesn't go too far into the radio. You could try grounding the programming line, then turn the radio on and see if it goes into test mode. That might verify the integrity of the programming line. You should also measure +5V on it when the radio is on with no RIB attached. MIC jacks have been known to get dirty contacts, or even break, so it's worth checking the line all the way through the system, from the programming cable's RJ45 plug to the MIC jack, thru the control head, and eventually to the microprocessor on the main board. Bob M. == --- "Andrew G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to > program. It does not want to communicate with either > of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1, > 2, and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no > communication. Cable/PC is working since I pulled > the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with > no problem. Any Ideas? > > Thanks > Andy KC2GOW Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue
Mobile or Portable? The portable needs to be powered, if so. More than likely it has been programmed with a newer RSS as Mike said. Danny KD4RAA On 1/24/07, Mike Perryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like someone may have used a newer version of RSS than yours > they are not backward compatible... That is the only guess I would have... > > > 73 > Mike Perryman > www.k5jmp.us > > -Original Message- > From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of AndrewG. > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:48 PM > To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder]Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue > > > I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to program. It does not want to > communicate with either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1, 2, >and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC is > working since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with > noproblem. Any Ideas? > > Thanks > Andy KC2GOW > > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new2007 cars at Yahoo!Autos. > > > >
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue
One other thought... I am using this version.. no issues here. Software Version... R04.00.01 Software Date.. 06-OCT-00 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew G. Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to program. It does not want to communicate with either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1, 2, and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC is working since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with no problem. Any Ideas? Thanks Andy KC2GOW -- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue
Sounds like someone may have used a newer version of RSS than yours they are not backward compatible... That is the only guess I would have... 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew G. Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to program. It does not want to communicate with either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1, 2, and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC is working since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with no problem. Any Ideas? Thanks Andy KC2GOW -- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue
I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to program. It does not want to communicate with either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1, 2, and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC is working since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with no problem. Any Ideas? Thanks Andy KC2GOW - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
Yeah, as the former 2 meter and at one time 6 meter coordinator for NARCC here in norther california, I know what you mean about folks wanting "instant satisfaction". Stuff takes time! We are volunteers who have actual lives other than our day jobs and coordinating. Paperwork, research, phone calls, plotting coverage, etc. is time consuming. People should wait a while longer before launching thier "bitch and moan" tirades against a coordinator or the coordinating body. I deal with the commercial side of things these days. Try getting a part 74 950mhz link (radio studio/transmitter links) coordinated *and* licensed in less than 6 months or so. That being said, it is the coordinating body/coordinators job to try and "git 'er done" in a *reasonable* amount of time.. For some "reasonable" means the same as "instant", unfortunatley. 7treez, Dave Fortenberry, NA6DF - Original Message - From: "mch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners > Now the 'rest of the story'. WPRC does not accept modifications of > coordination from anyone but the holder of the coordination. That > includes in writing or in person. Would YOU want someone else changing > YOUR coordination? The transfer of the coordination in question was just > requested by the holder days before the meeting and his letter was only > seen by the Secretary as of the start of the meeting (as you said - it > was in the incoming mail). It never even made it to the coordinator yet! > You can't expect something to be processed before it is received. The > item in question was received by the Secretary 1/18/07. Rather than mail > it to the coordinator, he held it for physical hand-off at the meeting > to save the postage. (which is reasonable and common practice) > > As you noted, once the transfer was brought to light, there was no > problem. Had this transfer been sent in earlier, it would not have been > an issue at all. > > Do you send a check in the mail then complain when it is not cleared > your bank a few days later? It's exactly the same thing. There is a > process paperwork must go through, and it's not a three minute process > or even a three day process. > > Yes there was confusion because someone was talking as if this paperwork > was submitted years ago when it was days. It was quickly cleared up when > the fact that it was just received was brought to light (as you said). > > As for "they made him relinquish his coordination, and required him to > reapply at the next session.", what are you talking about? That is an > outright lie. The transfer is being processed and will be complete > within a week from the day it was received by the coordinator. (and only > taking that long due to the fact that 11 other coordination requests > were received the day before his). > > Joe M. > > Bathgate, Ed wrote: >> >> I attended a local repeater coordination meeting WPRC in Butler Pa this >> past >> weekend. >> >> I was amazed at the amount of argument and bickering the board members >> did, >> and seemed to go out of their way to make life difficult for a fellow >> from a >> repeater group who travelled several hours to be there. He was there, in >> person, with documentation, they insisted he dident have the correct >> information, and refused to even read it.Then the WPRC secretary >> finally got them to shut up for a moment and read their own mail. Turns >> out >> they did have the paperwork in their incoming mail, that they hadent >> read. >> >> He requested a modification of the callsign, and trusteeship. They were >> not going to fix it. "That's just not the way its done" Then they >> chewed >> on him because somebody else made an error on the paperwork years ago, >> and >> instead of just doing a modification, they made him relinquish his >> coordination, and required him to reapply at the next session. >> >> What a pain in the Neck. >> >> I see why somebody said about it being an old mans activity, you need >> lots >> of "age acquired patience" to deal with their little kangaroo court. >> >> Ed Bathgate >> Manufacturing Test Engineer >> Marconi division of Ericsson >> 4000 Marconi Drive >> Warrendale PA 15086-7594 >> (724) 742-6575 >> Fax (724) 742-7177 >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
Now the 'rest of the story'. WPRC does not accept modifications of coordination from anyone but the holder of the coordination. That includes in writing or in person. Would YOU want someone else changing YOUR coordination? The transfer of the coordination in question was just requested by the holder days before the meeting and his letter was only seen by the Secretary as of the start of the meeting (as you said - it was in the incoming mail). It never even made it to the coordinator yet! You can't expect something to be processed before it is received. The item in question was received by the Secretary 1/18/07. Rather than mail it to the coordinator, he held it for physical hand-off at the meeting to save the postage. (which is reasonable and common practice) As you noted, once the transfer was brought to light, there was no problem. Had this transfer been sent in earlier, it would not have been an issue at all. Do you send a check in the mail then complain when it is not cleared your bank a few days later? It's exactly the same thing. There is a process paperwork must go through, and it's not a three minute process or even a three day process. Yes there was confusion because someone was talking as if this paperwork was submitted years ago when it was days. It was quickly cleared up when the fact that it was just received was brought to light (as you said). As for "they made him relinquish his coordination, and required him to reapply at the next session.", what are you talking about? That is an outright lie. The transfer is being processed and will be complete within a week from the day it was received by the coordinator. (and only taking that long due to the fact that 11 other coordination requests were received the day before his). Joe M. Bathgate, Ed wrote: > > I attended a local repeater coordination meeting WPRC in Butler Pa this past > weekend. > > I was amazed at the amount of argument and bickering the board members did, > and seemed to go out of their way to make life difficult for a fellow from a > repeater group who travelled several hours to be there. He was there, in > person, with documentation, they insisted he dident have the correct > information, and refused to even read it.Then the WPRC secretary > finally got them to shut up for a moment and read their own mail. Turns out > they did have the paperwork in their incoming mail, that they hadent read. > > He requested a modification of the callsign, and trusteeship. They were > not going to fix it. "That's just not the way its done" Then they chewed > on him because somebody else made an error on the paperwork years ago, and > instead of just doing a modification, they made him relinquish his > coordination, and required him to reapply at the next session. > > What a pain in the Neck. > > I see why somebody said about it being an old mans activity, you need lots > of "age acquired patience" to deal with their little kangaroo court. > > Ed Bathgate > Manufacturing Test Engineer > Marconi division of Ericsson > 4000 Marconi Drive > Warrendale PA 15086-7594 > (724) 742-6575 > Fax (724) 742-7177 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
[Repeater-Builder] Re: GM300 Repeater Option
Hi Matt, Turn the RF Output Power down so the amplifier doesn't get hot and burn up. And you might consider a quality muffin fan moving air over the back of the transmit radio (amplifier section). Power output is adjusted in software at the time of programming. Set the transmit time out timer for 60 seconds max and you'll eventually train people not to be lock to talk in transmit. Christmas $98 is a lot of money for just programming... You could by the programming cable off ebay for under $30 delivered to your door and the software "is probably available on the web for free" or modest cost. Life goes on... probably cheaper... cheers, skipp > "Matt Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > New To the Group, had a question about the Motorola GM300's before I send > > them in to be programmed. > > > > I volunteer with Nicolet Search Team (a volunteer operation that is > > non-profit who aid Law Enforcement in Northeast Wisconsin in the Search > > for lost/missing persons) > > > > I recently found out that by purchasing 2 motorola GM300's and a connector > > cable (which I've done) you can turn them into a repeater. I was > > wondering if there was anything special that needs to be done to these > > radios during programing, etc. to make them work properly without any > > troubles? Any information that is provided will be a big help. At > > $98/hour to be programmed, I really don't want to have to send them back > > in a second or third time. > > > > Thanks In Advance To Anyone Who Replies, > > > > Matt Miller > > Nicolet Search Team Inc. > > www.nicoletsearchteam.org >
[Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
I attended a local repeater coordination meeting WPRC in Butler Pa this past weekend. I was amazed at the amount of argument and bickering the board members did, and seemed to go out of their way to make life difficult for a fellow from a repeater group who travelled several hours to be there. He was there, in person, with documentation, they insisted he dident have the correct information, and refused to even read it.Then the WPRC secretary finally got them to shut up for a moment and read their own mail. Turns out they did have the paperwork in their incoming mail, that they hadent read. He requested a modification of the callsign, and trusteeship. They were not going to fix it. "That's just not the way its done" Then they chewed on him because somebody else made an error on the paperwork years ago, and instead of just doing a modification, they made him relinquish his coordination, and required him to reapply at the next session. What a pain in the Neck. I see why somebody said about it being an old mans activity, you need lots of "age acquired patience" to deal with their little kangaroo court. Ed Bathgate Manufacturing Test Engineer Marconi division of Ericsson 4000 Marconi Drive Warrendale PA 15086-7594 (724) 742-6575 Fax (724) 742-7177
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master
At 1/23/2007 13:22, you wrote: >We are using a GE Master II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 >repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined >this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio >off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow >modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does >anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action? The Mastr II squelch does tend to chop if it's set anywhere other than threshold. Make sure it's set as low as possible without hanging open. If it still doesn't perform to your expectations or you must set the squelch tighter, retrofitting a Micor squelch circuit would be best; see http://linkcomm.com/controllers/accessories/rlcmot/rlc-mot.htm. The Micor squelches perform much better than the G.E. when the noise squelch must be set several dB above threshold as they "chop" much less. At threshold, the difference between the two squelches is only subtle. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Repeater Option
$98 to have them set up as a generic repeater is a bit high, there isn't much to it, fire up the software, change to repeater mode, tell the software it's a generic repeater, follow the screens in the software, program the radio's. The software takes care of the accessory pin configuration, frequencies, and timeout timer and your done, takes about 10 minutes, connect up your back to back cable and give it a quick test. Email me off the list and I'll explain more
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Too fast squelch on GE Master
I have actually built a "AND" squelch circuit for a Micor because the squelch tail was to long with PL. However, in this case we like to turn PL off at times and I think adding the caps will fix the problem. Anyway I will let the group know how this works out after next time I go to the mountain. Thanks all for the suggestions. Wayne WA5LUY
[Repeater-Builder] GM300 Repeater Option
> New To the Group, had a question about the Motorola GM300's before I send > them in to be programmed. > > I volunteer with Nicolet Search Team (a volunteer operation that is > non-profit who aid Law Enforcement in Northeast Wisconsin in the Search > for lost/missing persons) > > I recently found out that by purchasing 2 motorola GM300's and a connector > cable (which I've done) you can turn them into a repeater. I was > wondering if there was anything special that needs to be done to these > radios during programing, etc. to make them work properly without any > troubles? Any information that is provided will be a big help. At > $98/hour to be programmed, I really don't want to have to send them back > in a second or third time. > > Thanks In Advance To Anyone Who Replies, > > Matt Miller > Nicolet Search Team Inc. > www.nicoletsearchteam.org
