Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here
To All: People who live in glass houses should not throw stones! Now back to technical topics. Fred W5VAY - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here Gary, the real pitty here is that you are a language cop that can't even spell pity. I myself think it's time for you to get a both a dictionary or a spell checker + a life! In a message dated 3/24/2007 10:57:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Begin forwarded message: From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 24, 2007 10:42:26 PDT To: Paul Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power You know, it's not only a pitty but also ironic that you don't value our language more especially since you are involved with radio communications for crying out loud. Apparently you didn't listen to your elementary school teacher very well otherwise you may now realize how rediculously stupid you seem by attempting to simply dismiss your misuse of the language as being less important then (whatever you call) fun. I'm done and you've been enlighted. Goodbye. Paul Metzger wrote: Thank you for your concerns. But quite honestly, I feel as if I had just been scorned by an elementary school teacher. I guess my last e- mail might have offended you in some way. I apologize if I had. Now that that's out of the way . . . Have Fun ! Paul Metzger K6EH -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR feedline revisited and revised!
At 3/22/2007 16:33, you wrote: From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR feedline revisited and revised! Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:03:43 -0400 Why would you even use pl259 connectors on uhf? Why not? Motorola and GE did? doesn't make it right though considering the potentual losses. PL259s are certainly not the ideal connector to use at 450 MHz, but if quality PL259s are used properly installed, they get the job done with negligible loss. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR feedline revisited and revised!
At 3/23/2007 13:25, you wrote: Also, I had a type N connector mode pretty bad at around 6 gHz in the middle of an antenna project some years ago. It was a Kings E/U suffix. Sort of blew my faith in the 11 gHz myth, er spec. td wb6mie We had some N connectors rated for 18 GHz that I once used on solid .141 dia. semirigid. At first I noticed a nasty resonance just above 1 GHz, but found that it went away when I tightened the connector a bit further. The 18 GHz male Ns don't use a segmented or springy outer conductor, but instead have a solid shield ring that likely requires a more precise female mating connector, in this case there was probably a gap somewhere along the ring, which the additional mating force eliminated. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RCA connectors NOT for power
At 3/23/2007 13:15, you wrote: Yep - had a Yaesu 727 handheld with that... the cigarette lighter adapter had a dual plug with a coaxial plug for operating the handheld and a 1/8 one for charging the battery. The charger was nothing but a fixed resistor (1/4w !!!) between the 12v input and the hot side of the battery. The cord dropped between the seats in teh truck one day and the tip of the 1/8 plug touched the steel seat slide. POOF! went the 1/4 watt resistor. How about the external power connector on the FT-708? Coaxial power plug with the + side on the OUTER RING! Dub! Bob NO6B I replaced it with a LM317 adjustable voltage regulator chip set to result in zero current when the battery was fully charged. And the current was limited to prevent overcurrent damage to the battery. Crude, but effective, and 100% junk box. Mike At 01:07 PM 03/23/07, you wrote: Gotta be better then using one of those 'mini' or 'micro' earphone plug style connectors! You know where the center pin shorts to the outer contact briefly while your inserting/removing? ZAP! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Robin Midgett wrote: Personally I don't like the RCA connector for power use. Assuming the female is chassis mounted, as it has been on a number of pieces of equipment (DEMI transverters come to mind), that means there's a mating male connector with +12VDC on the exposed pin, just looking for something to short out with. Granted, it may see very few insertions/extractions, but when extracted it exposes a live pin. A pigtail on the equipment with a male connector could be used, making the power source available on a female inline connector. PowerPoles are a much better choice IMHO, and they can be chassis mounted with some insulating shoulder washers, like power transistors banana connectors often are. At 11:43 AM 3/23/2007, you wrote: How about using an RCA connector for power? I have a TX/RX Systems preamp that has a male RCA plug threaded into the case to supply it with 12 VDC. Chuck WB2EDV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Watch your use of the English Language here
I think you meant foolproof. I personally make lots of grammar and spelling mistakes which I often see after they are posted. Oops, drop the word personally, must be the lack of education. (Professional Engineer) But repeating similar words is how we talk. Oops, bad to start a sentence with but. Harold --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks but unfortunately spell checker recognizes both spellings and it also missed my missing word to so even though I did use spell checker is not full proof. I have a life which has nothing to do with this unwanted thread that, as I've already mentioned, doesn't belong on this reflector. Gary
[Repeater-Builder] VHF UHF MSR2000s, VHF duplexers for sale
Good afternoon, I have the following MSR2000 base station repeaters for sale. All are 100% operational, and complete with channel elements. All units have been fully tested to meet original specs of 100+w output, and 0.3uv or better rx sensitivity. They will tune down to the ham bands with no trouble. I am using a few myself for ham repeaters. Qty.1 C73KSB3106BT VHF 146-174 110w cont duty repeater 37 cabinet $450ea Qty.1 C73KSB3106B VHF 146-174 110w cont duty base station 37 cabinet $400ea Qty.2 C73KSB3106BT VHF 146-174 110w cont duty repeater 32 cabinet $400ea Qty.4 C73KSB3106B VHF 146-174 110w cont duty base station 32 cabinet $350ea Qty.2 C73KRB3105B VHF 146-174 110w cont duty base station 32 cabinet (these use the R1 audio and PL vertically in the card shelf, uses a little less rack space. otherwise the same as the KSB stations) $350ea Qty.1 C73GSB3105AT VHF 146-174 110w int duty repeater 24 cabinet $300ea Qty.1 C73GSB3106B VHF 146-174 110w int duty base station 29 cabinet $250ea Qty.1 C74GSB1105AT UHF 450-470 100w int duty repeater 29 cabinet (backplane currently wired for an external tone panel controller) $300ea Qty.1 C74GSB1105BT UHF 450-470 100w int duty repeater 29 cabinet (backplane currently wired for an external tone panel controller) $300ea Qty.1 C74GSB1105B UHF 450-470 100w int duty base station 29 cabinet $250ea Qty.2 Sinclair 202G VHF 4-cavity duplexers. Old style with external rod reject tuning. Enclosed in cabinets, but can be removed from the cabinets and rack mounted. $300ea untuned, or $400 tuned for your frequency requirements. Prefer pickup in central NJ, or will ship at buyer's expense. The MSR2000s can be shipped UPS for around $125 or so. I can also re-crystal and professionally tune these to your requirements. I have a two-way shop fully equipped shop with an HP8920 and COM120B. Contact Eric, KE2D [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 609-713-3742
[Repeater-Builder] VHF UHF MSR2000s, VHF duplexers for sale
Good afternoon, I have the following MSR2000 base station repeaters for sale. All are 100% operational, and complete with channel elements. All units have been fully tested to meet original specs of 100+w output, and 0.3uv or better rx sensitivity. They will tune down to the ham bands with no trouble. I am using a few myself for ham repeaters. Qty.1 C73KSB3106BT VHF 146-174 110w cont duty repeater 37 cabinet $450ea Qty.1 C73KSB3106B VHF 146-174 110w cont duty base station 37 cabinet $400ea Qty.2 C73KSB3106BT VHF 146-174 110w cont duty repeater 32 cabinet $400ea Qty.4 C73KSB3106B VHF 146-174 110w cont duty base station 32 cabinet $350ea Qty.2 C73KRB3105B VHF 146-174 110w cont duty base station 32 cabinet (these use the R1 audio and PL vertically in the card shelf, uses a little less rack space. otherwise the same as the KSB stations) $350ea Qty.1 C73GSB3105AT VHF 146-174 110w int duty repeater 24 cabinet $300ea Qty.1 C73GSB3106B VHF 146-174 110w int duty base station 29 cabinet $250ea Qty.1 C74GSB1105AT UHF 450-470 100w int duty repeater 29 cabinet (backplane currently wired for an external tone panel controller) $300ea Qty.1 C74GSB1105BT UHF 450-470 100w int duty repeater 29 cabinet (backplane currently wired for an external tone panel controller) $300ea Qty.1 C74GSB1105B UHF 450-470 100w int duty base station 29 cabinet $250ea Qty.2 Sinclair 202G VHF 4-cavity duplexers. Old style with external rod reject tuning. Enclosed in cabinets, but can be removed from the cabinets and rack mounted. $300ea untuned, or $400 tuned for your frequency requirements. Prefer pickup in central NJ, or will ship at buyer's expense. The MSR2000s can be shipped UPS for around $125 or so. I can also re-crystal and professionally tune these to your requirements. I have a two-way shop fully equipped shop with an HP8920 and COM120B. Contact Eric, KE2D [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 609-713-3742
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TX RC antenna seperation
At 3/23/2007 20:00, you wrote: Sam, Just to give you a ballpark estimate, I used CommShop for Windows to generate a solution for a 50 watt transmitter that is separated by 600 kHz from a receiver with 0.25 uV sensitivity in the 2m Amateur band. CommShop reported that a minimum of 90.14 dB of isolation is required, which can be met with a vertical antenna separation of 240 feet- assuming that the antennas are identical and are exactly in line with each other vertically. I once operated a 600 kHz split 2 meter repeater with 1 pass cavity on the TX (17 dB down @ 600 kHz) only 60 ft. of vertical separation on the antennas; absolutely no desense. Radio was a G.E. MVP with 100 watt external PA.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anderson PowerPole Connectors
At 3/24/2007 09:39, you wrote: I suspect that part of the problem seen by a few PowerPole users is that the wrong tool was used to crimp the terminals. The correct tool should be I don't crimp them; I solder. Just be careful to not let the solder or flux flow down into the contact area. Zero failures so far. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 help? (hey, it's a repeater, right?)
A followup to my MSF5000 adventure.. It turns out the previous owner of the thing had it programmed to some ham channels and had ONLY the VCO's retuned. Which explains alot. So while I wait for my Advanced Metering Panel to arrive (with probes, tools, etc) and I can properly move and realign it, I programmed the commercial channels the thing was originally on and retuned the VCOs until I got lock indication on the LEDs. Voila! 90 watts out and a living receiver. So once the panel gets here, I'm good to go.. Thanks to all who responded Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Coming soon - the most advanced repeater controller EVER. Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks but unfortunately spell checker recognizes both spellings and it also missed my missing word to so even though I did use spell checker is not full proof. I have a life which has nothing to do with this unwanted thread that, as I've already mentioned, doesn't belong on this reflector. Gary
[Repeater-Builder] connectors - soldered vs crimp
There are cases to be made for both solder and crimp connections. But also keep in mind how some really smart people say one or the other method is not good news. In general the industry doesn't like solid wire or soldered connections in mobile radio (moving) applications. Vibration can and sometimes does fracture some non-supported soldered wire connections. Consider the wire lead from a soldered connection as brittle where the solder stops and a possible trouble maker. Some smart people support/use shrink tube around the soldered end/pin flying wire lead. Some people and a lot of the industry consider the crimp pressure a better connection for mobile aps. I've run into applications for both solder and crimp (in various combinations) and the use of regular and goo sealing shrink wrap. Since my opinion can and sometimes does change when I run into cluster [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the day type problems... I just go with what I think is the best method for the moment. Depending on the specific application and location... I even seal some lower voltage high current connections (in moist locations) with pickling oil like the Noco Battery terminal stuff you see sold for car batteries. So I've tried powerpole connections with both crimp and solder and/or both. I still don't trust the smaller ones in critical applications. Ya gotta' do what'cha gotta do... cheers, skipp I suspect that part of the problem seen by a few PowerPole users is that the wrong tool was used to crimp the terminals. The correct tool should be I don't crimp them; I solder. Just be careful to not let the solder or flux flow down into the contact area. Zero failures so far.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Well the heck with all that. I speek English and speel real gud. Sew can we muv on puleeze? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Coming soon - the most advanced repeater controller EVER. Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
[Repeater-Builder] Moto Pulsar 120
I have a Motorola Pulsar 120 S Mobile Telephone that was used before cellular phones. I am told that one can modify this radio to become a repeater. I know nothing about this radio/phone. How many watts, channels, VHF OR UHF, or even if this spefic model can be modified to a repeater. I have searched google and yahoo and msn to see what I could find out about this 120 S model and I was very unsuccessful. If anyone has any information that they could pass along to me that would be great. Riley.
RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Easy, Fred - you'll stroke out. Hehehehe Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Fred Flowers BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day.
RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Not really, I feel better now. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of N9WYS Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Easy, Fred - you'll stroke out. Hehehehe Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Fred Flowers BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day.
Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
MessageOh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. !DSPAM:1016,460721bc523707424076780!
Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
MessageNo, I'm not God. And I didn't use spell checker. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Be careful; don't fall off your high horse. Did spell all that correctly? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. !DSPAM:1016,46072783528707253314415!
RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
I get so tired of people who complain about wasting bandwidth like it's some precious commodity, such as beer. Richard, N7TGB _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com. !DSPAM:1016,460721bc523707424076780!
RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Be careful; don't fall off your high horse. Did spell all that correctly? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com. !DSPAM:1016,460721bc523707424076780!
Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Being from South Eastern Wisconsin and the beer capitol of the world, I agree. I'll have another Miller Lite. Care to join me? Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Richard To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language I get so tired of people who complain about wasting bandwidth like it's some precious commodity, such as beer. Richard, N7TGB -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. WBR460721bc523707424076780! !DSPAM:1016,46072ab6531195209328925!
RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
I do a grammar checker also. I try to make what I write readable. Writing without capitals, punctuation, spacing is unreadable. I just delete it most of the time. Fred N4GER -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language No, I'm not God. And I didn't use spell checker. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Be careful; don't fall off your high horse. Did spell all that correctly? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred Flowers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com. !DSPAM:1016,46072783528707253314415!
RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
I'll drink to that! Richard, N7TGB _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Being from South Eastern Wisconsin and the beer capitol of the world, I agree. I'll have another Miller Lite. Care to join me? Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Richard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language I get so tired of people who complain about wasting bandwidth like it's some precious commodity, such as beer. Richard, N7TGB _ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred Flowers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com. WBR460721bc523707424076780! !DSPAM:1016,46072ab6531195209328925!
RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:06:15 -0700 I get so tired of people who complain about wasting bandwidth like it's some precious commodity, such as beer. Richard, N7TGB If it was a good scotch I would be all a dither .:) it is only a few electrons . _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Fred mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flowers To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ. Fred N4GER Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot. This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's get back to Repeater Builder topics. Gary I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it, the pot that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not redundant at all. The myself lightens the gravity of an expression, intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to disagree. _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 AOL.com. !DSPAM:1016,460721bc523707424076780! _ Advertisement: Its simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588_t=754951090_r=tig_m=EXT
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Builder language
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moto Pulsar 120
Forget about it. Those are set up for duplex operation but are so specialized it would not be worth the effort. The High band IMTS phones only had a single oscillator element that controlled both transmit and receive. The IF was the same as the difference between the transmitter and receiver (5.26 MHz). For example channel YK the mobile received 152.66 and transmitted on 157.92 MHz. The control module filled the top of the radio and used discreet transistors to decode the 1800 / 2000 Hz signaling tones and the IMTS idle tone at 2000 Hz. This was pretty hot stuff for 1969! It actually worked pretty well, and the price kept the users count down to where you could find a channel most of the time to make a call! The low band systems used a channel split of 8 MHz and the UHF stations used 5 MHz. The control head had a handset and a rotary dial to make a call, the decoder had a contact closure so it could be used to honk the car horn when you got a call. Back in the early days of UHF repeaters there were a few of the Delco phones that found their way into ham service, but the Regency HR-2 pretty well killed it off! Jack K6YC - Original Message - From: Riley Frazee To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Moto Pulsar 120 I have a Motorola Pulsar 120 S Mobile Telephone that was used before cellular phones. I am told that one can modify this radio to become a repeater. I know nothing about this radio/phone. How many watts, channels, VHF OR UHF, or even if this spefic model can be modified to a repeater. I have searched google and yahoo and msn to see what I could find out about this 120 S model and I was very unsuccessful. If anyone has any information that they could pass along to me that would be great. Riley.
[Repeater-Builder] need some help with an Repco Repeater
Hi, I got this basket case of a repeater, that i would like to refurb and put on the air. its a Dimension uhf 450-470. So far I got the receiver working. control is working well. but the rf deck is not. I need the rf transistors but only one is marked. Q1 is a CM10-12A Q2 is the one i need the service manual only refers to repco part # any help would be appreciated Thanx
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR feedline revisited and revised!
Jim, I still have one of those. It was harder than hell to get something for an external antenna for it. Max... --- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone remember the Kenwood TH-21/31/41 series handhelds that had a threaded RCA connector??? wow... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Public Information Officer -- St. Louis Suburban Radio Club K0AZV - Amateur WPWH-650 GMRS St. Louis County ARES St. Ann MO EM48tr
[Repeater-Builder] Distance
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm currently station in Iraq in support of OIF and one of my task is to set up a communication plan using a Motorola GP360 and I need to set up a repeater (MTR2000). One of my concern is I don't know how far can I set up a repeater (MTR2000). In short does anyone know how far can I talk (RX/TX) using a repeater (MTR2000), or can someone please break it down for me barnie style on how this equiptment (MTR2000) work As you can see I'm just new to this fine piece of equiptment. I am seeking for help and advice. I really apreciate your help and thank you in advance for you assistance. R/S Sgt Cabrera, Renan C USMC
[Repeater-Builder] Distance
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm currently station in Iraq in support of OIF and one of my task is to set up a communication plan using a Motorola GP360 and I need to set up a repeater (MTR2000). One of my concern is I don't know how far can I set up a repeater (MTR2000). In short does anyone know how far can I talk (RX/TX) using a repeater (MTR2000), or can someone please break it down for me barnie style on how this equiptment (MTR2000) work As you can see I'm just new to this fine piece of equiptment. I am seeking for help and advice. I really apreciate your help and thank you in advance for you assistance. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] R/S Sgt Cabrera, Renan C USMC
[Repeater-Builder] 4 bay folded j pole questions
I received a 4 bay (folded j pole or dipole) it has 34 folded elements and total boom length around 20'. I wangt to use this for amateur radio use, however no one knows what freq their business was on. I havent seen a setup like this before, two folded elements feed w/coax - 50 ohm i guess to a tee then the two tees feed one tee which feeds a single coax w/ N male connector, are the individual elements 50 ohm?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here
What is this English class? It says Repeater builder! Where is the mderator? David R. Henry LME Licensed Master Electrician Amateur Radio W2DRH Member ARRL Accredited Instructor - Original Message - From: Paul Metzger To: repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here Begin forwarded message: From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 24, 2007 08:42:39 PDT To: Paul Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power Paul, please get out of the habit of saying or writing I myself as it is redundant and an improper use of our language. To simply write I have found... or I have utilized... accomplishes the same thing but does not make you look uneducated. This message has been sent direct, off of the reflector. Gary Paul Metzger wrote: I second that. I myself have found these little power pole connectors (which are recommended by emergency groups) to be a bit too delicate for me. And if improperly built, will have little or almost no contact tension at all. Honestly I was a little shocked when I started seeing these little buggers marketed for emergency amateur radio purposes. The bright side I see in that is everyone can connect with minimal fuss. But if the connectors were improperly built, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these tapped up during a real disaster in order to keep them from falling out of their other mating half. For years, I myself have utilized the larger SB 50A Anderson connectors on my primary Amateur Radio (TS-450 / IC-910) and Solar system at my home QTH. Now try and pull those babies apart. Talk about contact tension. You can't accidently tug on you power harness and pull these apart. One more thing, my jaw dropped when I had built my K2-100W. It uses a chassis mount variant of the tiny power pole connectors out from the rear of the unit. Well, just my two cents. Paul Metzger K6EH --- On Mar 24, 2007, at 06:42, Tedd Doda wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:01:17 -, skipp025 wrote: I try not to use the small powerpoles any more.. the smaller made power-poles don't have adequate contact tension/pressure and have been real trouble makers for me. *Smaller* being what Skipp? I've had excellent results using the 30 amp contacts on equipment that pushes the current rating of these to the limit (and then some). Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada www.ve3tjd.com (personal) www.eraradio.ca (Linked repeater system) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: TX RC antenna seperation
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the guidelines to use for antenna seperation on a 2 meter machine w/o a duplexer. Horizonal and vertical, this will be a limited use machine, so there will not be a lot of traffic. Sam KE5MID check this link http://my.athenet.net/~multiplx/cgi-bin/isolation.main.cgi
[Repeater-Builder] emails slow to post or not posting at all
Hi All, It seems my email responses take forever to post or do not post at all. Is anyone else having this problem?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Watch your use of the English Language here
Harold, I garee. Being Human I make lots of mistakes (OOPPS I MISPELED IT)! We MUST get back to repeater building and and associated issues, not gammer and spelling corrections or comments! Go to a grammer or spelling group and make your position known. David R. Henry LME Licensed Master Electrician Amateur Radio W2DRH Member ARRL Accredited Instructor - Original Message - From: Harold Farrenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Watch your use of the English Language here I think you meant foolproof. I personally make lots of grammar and spelling mistakes which I often see after they are posted. Oops, drop the word personally, must be the lack of education. (Professional Engineer) But repeating similar words is how we talk. Oops, bad to start a sentence with but. Harold
[Repeater-Builder] DB Decibel UHF DB-4075 Problem
Greetings, I have a set of DB-4075's that I am having a problem tuning. One of the filters won't notch anything at all out so I checked the little tuning cap on top and found that it was bad. It looked as though it was shorted out and melted(thus the tuning problem.) Does anyone have any idea of the value that cap would be or where I could find an close match? Thanks and 73 de Joe KB5VJY - West Monroe, LA
Fw: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here 2nd response
What happend to my original posting? This is my 2nd response! What is this English class? It says Repeater builder! Where is the moderator? David R. Henry LME Licensed Master Electrician Amateur Radio W2DRH Member ARRL Accredited Instructor - Original Message - From: Paul Metzger To: repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here Begin forwarded message: From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 24, 2007 08:42:39 PDT To: Paul Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power Paul, please get out of the habit of saying or writing I myself as it is redundant and an improper use of our language. To simply write I have found... or I have utilized... accomplishes the same thing but does not make you look uneducated. This message has been sent direct, off of the reflector. Gary Paul Metzger wrote: I second that. I myself have found these little power pole connectors (which are recommended by emergency groups) to be a bit too delicate for me. And if improperly built, will have little or almost no contact tension at all. Honestly I was a little shocked when I started seeing these little buggers marketed for emergency amateur radio purposes. The bright side I see in that is everyone can connect with minimal fuss. But if the connectors were improperly built, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these tapped up during a real disaster in order to keep them from falling out of their other mating half. For years, I myself have utilized the larger SB 50A Anderson connectors on my primary Amateur Radio (TS-450 / IC-910) and Solar system at my home QTH. Now try and pull those babies apart. Talk about contact tension. You can't accidently tug on you power harness and pull these apart. One more thing, my jaw dropped when I had built my K2-100W. It uses a chassis mount variant of the tiny power pole connectors out from the rear of the unit. Well, just my two cents. Paul Metzger K6EH --- On Mar 24, 2007, at 06:42, Tedd Doda wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:01:17 -, skipp025 wrote: I try not to use the small powerpoles any more.. the smaller made power-poles don't have adequate contact tension/pressure and have been real trouble makers for me. *Smaller* being what Skipp? I've had excellent results using the 30 amp contacts on equipment that pushes the current rating of these to the limit (and then some). Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada www.ve3tjd.com (personal) www.eraradio.ca (Linked repeater system) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Message hold up
A number of email messages were stuck in the Pending Messages que. I've tried on a number of occasions today to release them, but each time I was told that the service was temporarily unavailable. However... I finally got in a few minutes ago and dumped several messages to the board. Enjoy, Jon Pearl - W4ABC
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power
Reasons not to solder PowerPoles: 1) It is very hard to control the wicking of solder into a stranded wire. Allowing this to happen can create a failure point in applications where vibration is present. And there can be a surprising amount of vibration in a rack mounted piece of electronic gear. 2)Heating up a metal object that is intended to function as a spring loaded contact changes the metal and makes is softer. This is not conducive to reliability. 3) A properly crimped powerpole more reliable than a soldered powrpole. 4) Aircraft connectors are not soldered. Be thankful of that the next time you are in a airliner at 30,000'. Dennis KG4RUL This comes from my experience in aircraft wiring harness assembly. I was trained and certified so I do know what I am talking about.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4 bay folded j pole questions
On 3/24/07, chuckmf1135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received a 4 bay (folded j pole or dipole) it has 34 folded elements and total boom length around 20'. I wangt to use this for amateur radio use, however no one knows what freq their business was on. I havent seen a setup like this before, two folded elements feed w/coax - 50 ohm i guess to a tee then the two tees feed one tee which feeds a single coax w/ N male connector, are the individual elements 50 ohm? No labels or stamped on numbers on that thing at all, eh? Hard to say what you have there. The harness sounds completely normal for folded-dipole arrays (it's just a power divider that's made sure the length of the cables to each antenna are the same so the signal from each element in the array is in-phase with the others), but some manufacturers use different impedance coaxes in each part of the harness to get the entire antenna to be 50 ohm... A picture is worth a thousands words... someone here's bound to recognize it if you can snap a photo. Nate WY0X
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto Pulsar 120
The Pulsar mobile phone is not a 1969 product, they were produced from the late 1970's through the 1980's. These drawer units make good raw materials for building repeaters. They can be had for next to nothing or even for free, so you can build a complete repeater for lunch money. Much of the circuitry is of the same vintage as Micor. The PA's are continuous duty - after all, a duplex phone transmitter is active for the duration of a phone call - no PTT. Also, these are synthesized radios- but the nifty thing is that there is no microprocessor - the synthesizer loop is programmed with a diode matrix. Once you master the logic - you can move it to other frequencies - and without spending a dime to have channel elements re- rocked. [these units actually do have a microprocessor for the supervisory logic - but we remove that for amateur repeater applications] They do have a fixed offset from TX to RX. Since that offset is 5 MHz at UHF, those can be a full duplex link or repeater in one box. For VHF, it would be easier to use two drawers since there is only one VCO. Also, there is no squelch circuit so you will need an audio or squelch gate board from a Micor or a squelch circuit like the one from Link. Finding a manual is necessary for a successful project. The drawer unit will have a model number such as T1739 or T1839 [A,B,C,D, etc.] This will help tell what band the unit is and what book to look for. You can also open it and look for assembly numbers that begin with TLD or TLE to determine the band.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posting of messages
On 3/25/07, DaveH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is going on with messages? My responses take forever to make the post or they don't make it at all? is anyone else having this problem? It's Yahoo. It's free. It happens. (Better mailing list services can be had if $ is spent.) Someone asks the same question every week. Nate WY0X
RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language
Quickest way to kill the thread is to stop responding to it. 73 Gary K4FMX _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language Oh, come'on now. What's this got to do with repeater buidling. However was the original post, do me a favor . . . get a life! This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these posts.!! I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you want to rant and rave. This is stupid. We don't need people trying to figure out the english language on this forum. If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and re-learn what was taught to you when you were young. Please, please . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater building. Don, KD9PT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here 2nd response
Hi David, I saw both your posts, so there must be something wrong on your end. (maybe). Also a comment about the english/grammer education. I think we should just end it. This is a group for repeater-building and not grammer-building everyone has they're own way to express themselves, so let get on with the real topics. Just a personal though Have a great day Guys Dirk - Original Message - From: DaveH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:58 AM Subject: Fw: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here 2nd response What happend to my original posting? This is my 2nd response! What is this English class? It says Repeater builder! Where is the moderator? David R. Henry LME Licensed Master Electrician Amateur Radio W2DRH Member ARRL Accredited Instructor - Original Message - From: Paul Metzger To: repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here Begin forwarded message: From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 24, 2007 08:42:39 PDT To: Paul Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power Paul, please get out of the habit of saying or writing I myself as it is redundant and an improper use of our language. To simply write I have found... or I have utilized... accomplishes the same thing but does not make you look uneducated. This message has been sent direct, off of the reflector. Gary Paul Metzger wrote: I second that. I myself have found these little power pole connectors (which are recommended by emergency groups) to be a bit too delicate for me. And if improperly built, will have little or almost no contact tension at all. Honestly I was a little shocked when I started seeing these little buggers marketed for emergency amateur radio purposes. The bright side I see in that is everyone can connect with minimal fuss. But if the connectors were improperly built, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these tapped up during a real disaster in order to keep them from falling out of their other mating half. For years, I myself have utilized the larger SB 50A Anderson connectors on my primary Amateur Radio (TS-450 / IC-910) and Solar system at my home QTH. Now try and pull those babies apart. Talk about contact tension. You can't accidently tug on you power harness and pull these apart. One more thing, my jaw dropped when I had built my K2-100W. It uses a chassis mount variant of the tiny power pole connectors out from the rear of the unit. Well, just my two cents. Paul Metzger K6EH --- On Mar 24, 2007, at 06:42, Tedd Doda wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:01:17 -, skipp025 wrote: I try not to use the small powerpoles any more.. the smaller made power-poles don't have adequate contact tension/pressure and have been real trouble makers for me. *Smaller* being what Skipp? I've had excellent results using the 30 amp contacts on equipment that pushes the current rating of these to the limit (and then some). Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada www.ve3tjd.com (personal) www.eraradio.ca (Linked repeater system) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 7:44 AM
[Repeater-Builder] Re: need some help with an Repco Repeater
Since I'm into some self abuse... I'll tell you I've played with a number of the Repco tx and rx strips you see on ebay every so often. You can see a VHF tx strip on ebay pretty constant.. the seller must have a pretty large batch of them. I've also bought my share from this seller. Repco 2Watt VHF Transmitter Board Possible Military NEW Ebay Item number: 160099512977 A fun kick around transmitter strip... only if you know exactly what you have and/or what you're buying... ie getting yourself into. Repco made a good number of mobiles, repeaters and data units you find on the used market now. I just spoke with the current version of the Repco Company (in Florida) and they haven't done any of these rf strips for about 6 years. I can help you with the manual for the tx and rx uhf strips in the 450-470 band and the 900 Mhz band. I have the manual scanned into pdf and it's available by simple email request direct to me. Mike has copies for the repeater builder but I'm not sure if they've bothered to make a repco page yet. I like to buy the repco manuals off ebay when/where possible. I'll help with what I have, which right now is not a large collection... but what I have can be useful to some people. cheers, skipp shaundaddy17602 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I got this basket case of a repeater, that i would like to refurb and put on the air. its a Dimension uhf 450-470. So far I got the receiver working. control is working well. but the rf deck is not. I need the rf transistors but only one is marked. Q1 is a CM10-12A Q2 is the one i need the service manual only refers to repco part # any help would be appreciated Thanx
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto Pulsar 120
I'll bet they are VERY large and have POOR receiver sensitivity (like .8 uV). -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:19:26 PM CDT From: nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto Pulsar 120 The Pulsar mobile phone is not a 1969 product, they were produced from the late 1970's through the 1980's. These drawer units make good raw materials for building repeaters. They can be had for next to nothing or even for free, so you can build a complete repeater for lunch money. Much of the circuitry is of the same vintage as Micor. The PA's are continuous duty - after all, a duplex phone transmitter is active for the duration of a phone call - no PTT. Also, these are synthesized radios- but the nifty thing is that there is no microprocessor - the synthesizer loop is programmed with a diode matrix. Once you master the logic - you can move it to other frequencies - and without spending a dime to have channel elements re- rocked. [these units actually do have a microprocessor for the supervisory logic - but we remove that for amateur repeater applications] They do have a fixed offset from TX to RX. Since that offset is 5 MHz at UHF, those can be a full duplex link or repeater in one box. For VHF, it would be easier to use two drawers since there is only one VCO. Also, there is no squelch circuit so you will need an audio or squelch gate board from a Micor or a squelch circuit like the one from Link. Finding a manual is necessary for a successful project. The drawer unit will have a model number such as T1739 or T1839 [A,B,C,D, etc.] This will help tell what band the unit is and what book to look for. You can also open it and look for assembly numbers that begin with TLD or TLE to determine the band.
