Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II exciter question

2008-05-27 Thread Nate Duehr

On May 27, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Willis M. Hagler wrote:

 Hello All,

 I have a UHF MastrII with a phase modulated exciter board and a 2C
 ICOM for my transmit frequency.

 I'm collecting some spare parts and have ran across a true FM
 exciter board.

 Do the same ICOM's (2C, 5C, etc) work on both boards?   The real FM
 exciter is only really useful if the 2C ICOM in use on the PM exciter
 will be plug  play on the spare part.


The ICOMs are different.

Also, some people *need* that exciter for specialized applications,  
and would probably trade you quite a bit of MASTR II stuff for that  
one... if you're looking to do that.  Or pay through the nose for it.

If you don't need it, they're worth something to a lot of folks.   
Don't toss it!

--
Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-27 Thread Nate Duehr

On May 26, 2008, at 9:56 PM, ldgelectronics wrote:

 Deals like this may not be found everyday, but this one happened just
 last month, so they `are' out there.


Agreed.  Within a month ago I also ran across a deal for a station  
on VHF, but I was also informed it was the last of the equipment  
being pulled from the last sites in the area using the MASTR II.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[Repeater-Builder] GE Delta

2008-05-27 Thread mung_bungholio
Well I was over at the junk store looking for UHF commercial radios for 
the GMRS project and didn't find anything for that but did find the 
drawer unit for a low band GE Delta for $5.00.

So now what.  I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and 
use it for something.

How does one go about programming one of these puppies?  I have seen a 
lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say 
the easy way to get it programmed.  

Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be 
modded as well?

I know another project but that is how these things happen.  Go looking 
for one thing and find something else to play with.

Thanks,
Vern
KI4ONW



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-27 Thread N9LLO
I have a pretty good relationship with the two local shops here in town,  one 
Macom and the other Motorola.
They regularly call me to help clean out the garage. I get free GE  equipment 
at the Motorola shop and free Motorola equipment at the GE shop.  I remember 
dragging home a working VHF MSR2000 that was traded in at the GE  place. Best 
of both worlds.
 
Chris
N9LLO  
 
 
In a message dated 5/27/2008 3:32:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 

On May 26, 2008, at 9:56 PM, ldgelectronics wrote:

 Deals  like this may not be found everyday, but this one happened just
 last  month, so they `are' out there.

Agreed. Within a month ago I also ran  across a deal for a station 
on VHF, but I was also informed it was the  last of the equipment 
being pulled from the last sites in the area using  the MASTR II.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 


 




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Delta

2008-05-27 Thread Jim Brown
If the unit you are looking at is a programmable type, you can program with the 
RFGuys programmer by removing the chip and plugging it into their programmer 
board which plugs into the parallel port of your computer.  You have to use DOS 
to generate the personality (a 256 byte binary file) to move to the chip.  They 
supply a program to generate the personality.

I use one of these programmers to generate personalities for GE Rangr and GE 
Phoenix radios.  I don't have any programmable Deltas.  Some folks have 
indicated problems getting their computer to work with this programmer, but I 
use an IBM 390 laptop and it works fine.

Be aware that there were lots of crystal controlled Deltas made also.  You will 
have to order crystals for those types.  To verify that your radio is 
programmable you will find an XR2212 EEPROM near the microprocessor in a 
socket.  This is the chip you remove and plug into the RFGuys programmer.

RFGuys markets their unit on Ebay.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I 
was over at the junk store looking for UHF commercial radios for 
 the GMRS project and didn't find anything for that but did find the 
 drawer unit for a low band GE Delta for $5.00.
 
 So now what.  I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and 
 use it for something.
 
 How does one go about programming one of these puppies?  I have seen a 
 lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say 
 the easy way to get it programmed.  
 
 Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be 
 modded as well?
 
 I know another project but that is how these things happen.  Go looking 
 for one thing and find something else to play with.
 
 Thanks,
 Vern
 KI4ONW
 





   

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta

2008-05-27 Thread mung_bungholio
Cool.  I will check to see if it has the chip.  They don't have any 
programmers listed right now.  I will ask them if they have any not 
listed.

How about testing this thing out without a control head?  I have a 
service monitor so I just need to know how to power it up and listen 
to the speaker and make it tx so that I can see what it is putting 
out?

Thanks,
Vern

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If the unit you are looking at is a programmable type, you can 
program with the RFGuys programmer by removing the chip and plugging 
it into their programmer board which plugs into the parallel port of 
your computer.  You have to use DOS to generate the personality (a 
256 byte binary file) to move to the chip.  They supply a program to 
generate the personality.
 
 I use one of these programmers to generate personalities for GE 
Rangr and GE Phoenix radios.  I don't have any programmable Deltas.  
Some folks have indicated problems getting their computer to work 
with this programmer, but I use an IBM 390 laptop and it works fine.
 
 Be aware that there were lots of crystal controlled Deltas made 
also.  You will have to order crystals for those types.  To verify 
that your radio is programmable you will find an XR2212 EEPROM near 
the microprocessor in a socket.  This is the chip you remove and plug 
into the RFGuys programmer.
 
 RFGuys markets their unit on Ebay.
 
 73 - Jim  W5ZIT
 
 mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I 
was over at the junk store looking for UHF commercial radios for 
  the GMRS project and didn't find anything for that but did find 
the 
  drawer unit for a low band GE Delta for $5.00.
  
  So now what.  I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m 
and 
  use it for something.
  
  How does one go about programming one of these puppies?  I have 
seen a 
  lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to 
say 
  the easy way to get it programmed.  
  
  Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be 
  modded as well?
  
  I know another project but that is how these things happen.  Go 
looking 
  for one thing and find something else to play with.
  
  Thanks,
  Vern
  KI4ONW





[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-27 Thread tsoliver
Fired my UHF Mastr II up again and noticed excessive white noise (I think) in 
the transmit audio even on a dead carier. It is the phase modulated exciter 
tuned down in the 442 range.  Is this just the nature of the beast?


tom n8ies


[Repeater-Builder] spectra repeater?

2008-05-27 Thread Andrew
Hello all  Have a couple of spectras, and a mrti 1000 phone interconnect
I would like to set it up for repeater with phone patch. However i
haven't been able to find a controller to connect the mobiles or a way
to connect th interconnect to the spectra. could anyone help...



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-27 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Put a 100K from mic high to ground and see if that eliminates it.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit


 Fired my UHF Mastr II up again and noticed excessive white noise (I think) 
 in the transmit audio even on a dead carier. It is the phase modulated 
 exciter tuned down in the 442 range.  Is this just the nature of the 
 beast?


 tom n8ies

 



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[Repeater-Builder] a service manual in pdf for the Gp300 handhelds

2008-05-27 Thread Scott Berry
Hey guys,

 

I saw some info on the Gp300 on the Repeater Builders web site.  Does anyone
have a service manual in pdf?  I did not see it up there on the site.
Thanks much.

 

 

 

Scott Berry

N7Zib

 

Scott Berry

Email:  sberry at northlc.com

Hm Callsign:  N7ZIB

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-27 Thread tsoliver
Thanks I will try it Chuck you da man!

tom

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From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 27, 2008 4:43 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

Put a 100K from mic high to ground and see if that eliminates it.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit


 Fired my UHF Mastr II up again and noticed excessive white noise (I think) 
 in the transmit audio even on a dead carier. It is the phase modulated 
 exciter tuned down in the 442 range.  Is this just the nature of the 
 beast?


 tom n8ies

 



 Yahoo! Groups Links



 






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-27 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Well, if it works ;-)

It has for me in the past.

Chuck



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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit


 Thanks I will try it Chuck you da man!

 tom

 -Original Message-
From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 27, 2008 4:43 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

Put a 100K from mic high to ground and see if that eliminates it.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit


 Fired my UHF Mastr II up again and noticed excessive white noise (I 
 think)
 in the transmit audio even on a dead carier. It is the phase modulated
 exciter tuned down in the 442 range.  Is this just the nature of the
 beast?


 tom n8ies

 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra repeater?

2008-05-27 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Andrew wrote:
 Hello all Have a couple of spectras, and a mrti 1000 phone 
 interconnect I would like to set it up for repeater with phone patch. 
 However i haven't been able to find a controller to connect the 
 mobiles or a way to connect th interconnect to the spectra. could 
 anyone help...

Spectras make excellent mobile radios, but they are a bear to make a 
repeater out of. Trade them for Maxtracs.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


[Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread sgreact47
mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one point.  I
think Radio Shack had one.  

 

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again but I
didn't see it written anywhere.  

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

 

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Steve
The Radio Shack one was for 2m. 

Food for thought, just because a store sells them, doesn't make them legal. 
Remember Radio Shack was selling HTX202's and telling buyers that the license 
requirement had been dropped. 

My 3 cents worth.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mung Bungholio 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 16:17
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios



  Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one point.  I 
think Radio Shack had one.  



  I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again but I 
didn't see it written anywhere.  



  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
sgreact47
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios



  mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

  store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

  ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
  They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

  Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
  tolerance.



   

[Repeater-Builder] GLB VHF Pre-amp

2008-05-27 Thread drwoolweaver
Does anyone know the transistor type used in GLB VHF Preselector 
preamps?  Thanks de K5RAV.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
First of all I know we are not supposed to talk about part 97 rules on here
but these are part 95 so that should be OK right J

 

Anyway.  I wonder if you are talking about store and forward being forbidden
on FRS?  That is true.

 

Here is some reading material about store and forward on GMRS.

 

A conventional base station can also be set up as a repeater by receiving a
signal in the

462 MHz band, and then retransmitting that same signal after a slight delay
on the same

frequency. This requires attaching an inexpensive store-and- forward
device to the base

station, but also requires using another device to shut the station off if
it is operated from

a remote location.

 

Source http://www.wirelessgalaxy.com/twradios/Material/What_is_GMRS.pdf

 

OK I have looked and looked.  Lots of people doing simplex repeaters or
store and forward on GMRS

 

http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=934430266220
+1+0+0
http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=93443026622
0+1+0+0WAISaction=retrieve WAISaction=retrieve

 

Here is the part 95 rules and nothing in there about not doing it on GMRS.

 

So if it is against the rules please someone show me where.

 

Thanks,

Vern

KI4ONW

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

 

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB VHF Pre-amp

2008-05-27 Thread Kevin Custer
drwoolweaver wrote:
 Does anyone know the transistor type used in GLB VHF Preselector 
 preamps?  Thanks de K5RAV.


If it was not a special build unit below 200 MHz, it's a MRF-901 
bipolar.  They (GLB) would, however, build (on special order) GaAs FET 
models below 200 MHz.  I don't know what that device is, as I never 
bought a special ordered VHF unit.

I thought I had a schematic available on the R-B site, but be darned if 
I can find it!  ... and it's my own website  --sheesh.

Hope this helps...
Kevin Custer


[Repeater-Builder] Re: GLB VHF Pre-amp

2008-05-27 Thread skipp025

One early vhf version I have used a dual gate fet... but I 
replaced it with a lower noise device when lightning took it 
out of operation (with the previous owner). I don't have 
a diagram of it... 

cheers, 
s. 

 Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 drwoolweaver wrote:
  Does anyone know the transistor type used in GLB VHF Preselector 
  preamps?  Thanks de K5RAV.
 
 
 If it was not a special build unit below 200 MHz, it's a MRF-901 
 bipolar.  They (GLB) would, however, build (on special order) GaAs FET 
 models below 200 MHz.  I don't know what that device is, as I never 
 bought a special ordered VHF unit.
 
 I thought I had a schematic available on the R-B site, but be darned if 
 I can find it!  ... and it's my own website  --sheesh.
 
 Hope this helps...
 Kevin Custer





RE: [Repeater-Builder] a service manual in pdf for the Gp300 handhelds

2008-05-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
Scott,

You will not see the GP300 service manual on the Repeater-Builder site,
while it is still in print and available from Motorola Parts.  We want to
avoid the copyright infringement thing, you know.

You can purchase the GP300 Service Manual for about $14 from Motorola- a
great bargain, considering that it is more than 3/4 inches thick!  Call
800-422-4210 and order Publication 6880901Z93.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:56 PM
To: Repeater Builder
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] a service manual in pdf for the Gp300 handhelds

Hey guys,

I saw some info on the Gp300 on the Repeater Builders web site.  Does anyone
have a service manual in pdf?  I did not see it up there on the site.
Thanks much.

Scott Berry
N7Zib



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.
 
Richard
 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one
point.  I think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again
but I didn't see it written anywhere.  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency
tolerance is true, but I don't know about store-and-forward.
 
Richard
 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.
 
Richard
 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net
 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one
point.  I think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again
but I didn't see it written anywhere.  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
I am not questioning the frequency tolerance rules.  However a question
there does come up.  Is a mobile that is hooked up to my 75' tower a mobile
or a base station?  I can still move the radio any time I want.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

 

I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency tolerance is
true, but I don't know about store-and-forward.

 

Richard

 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.

 

Richard

 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one point.  I
think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again but I
didn't see it written anywhere.  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
Yes I reread the message and realized that.
 
As I understand it, it would be a base station.
 
Richard
 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




I am not questioning the frequency tolerance rules.  However a
question there does come up.  Is a mobile that is hooked up to my 75'
tower a mobile or a base station?  I can still move the radio any time
I want.

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency
tolerance is true, but I don't know about store-and-forward.

Richard

 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.

Richard

 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one
point.  I think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again
but I didn't see it written anywhere.  

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-27 Thread no6b
Every time I had this problem it turned out to be discriminator noise 
somehow coupling into the CG HI input (assuming you have a duplexed 
radio).  Troubleshooting was easy: put a full quieting signal into the RX  
see if it goes away.

A 0.1 uF to ground on CG HI took care of it.

Bob NO6B

At 5/27/2008 13:43, you wrote:

Put a 100K from mic high to ground and see if that eliminates it.

Chuck
WB2EDV

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

  Fired my UHF Mastr II up again and noticed excessive white noise (I think)
  in the transmit audio even on a dead carier. It is the phase modulated
  exciter tuned down in the 442 range. Is this just the nature of the
  beast?
 
 
  tom n8ies



[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta

2008-05-27 Thread ka9gpx
 
 So now what.  I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and 
 use it for something.
 
 How does one go about programming one of these puppies?  I have seen a 
 lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say 
 the easy way to get it programmed. 

Hello Vern,
If you have the 2212 chip (as opposed to the xtal vers...) there are
several ways to attack the programming issues... None of which is too
EASY but not too difficult either...Simplest is to find a GE dealer
in you area that might have the capabilities to do thatnext would
be to purchase any of the programmers made for doing the XR2212 Chip.
This chip was also used in the GE Phoenix Series of radios so any
programmer for that line should also work...) There are several
available, such as the one from RF GUYS,...There's also one available
from the NHRC group,. and if you don't mind building your own, you
might try the  KG4LNE software and programmer, or the KA9FUR software
and programmer. ( just Google those sites)..sorry don't have the
links handy. There are also what's known as Downloading Type Control
heads available which will download freq  tone info to the radio
every time it's turned on but they too require special (tough to find
) soft/hard-ware...


 
 Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be 
 modded as well?

I've put 2 deltas on 6mtrsI may have gotten lucky, but both
Moved just fine...No special mods required...They will however need
to have the VCO's reset, as well as the Recv. Front-end cavities
re-aligned. Also, I cut the power back to 45W for my piece of mind...

One Caveat...Are you sure you have a high-end split The Deltas
came in 3 ranges for the Low band model29-36, 36-42, 42-50, One
way to tell is by the Combination number on the radio (if it's still
attached)...If you have a high range version, the combo number
should look something like...N3DD3N060TB...or  N3DD3N110TB... The
Key is the 3rd letter...in this case the D(42-50Mhz)...a low end
vers.(29-36Mhz)would have a B in place of the D...a mid range
(36-42Mhz) would have a C in the 3rd positionPower is indicated
by the 060-60Watt  110-110Watt

Try the KA9FUR web site for some interfacing ideas (without control
head...also Buck's Packetradio.com web site...He has some
information there about using the Deltas for Packet,..but this will
Guide you towards a Non-Control Head set-up..

Good Luck,... Hope this helps...Hope I didn't use up this month's
Text-Limit with this answer...
73- Carl
KA9GPX

 






[Repeater-Builder] Earthquake Resistant

2008-05-27 Thread Roger Stacey
Hi all,

Our group wants to upgrade our repeater site to be more earthquake
resistant. We realize that there are no earthquake proof repeaters but
we want to improve any chances of survivability. Any ideas or
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Roger
VA7RS