Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower cost?

2009-03-29 Thread Wayne Leake
Offhand, I would say 50% to 75% of what new sections would cost.
 I am hoping to get something at little or no cost myself, like a tower that
had been used for a TV antenna. A number of those around no longer being
used. Just a matter of finding one. The last tower I was offers was an old
cracnkup tower that had a base that was rusted away. It had been given to
the person by another ham, mainly to get rid of the thing. Such items become
more work than they are worth. But something like you describe can be a good
deal. Be sure you can buy a new base for it, or be able to fabricate a good
base.

 Wayne WA2YNE

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:16 PM, drwoolweaver k5...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

   Fellows:

 How much are seven sections of used Rohn 45 tower worth? The tower is on
 the ground, has been painted, but the galvanized appears to be intact...no
 rust. No bent sections. Estimates? Thanks de David

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-29 Thread k5in
Jeff,


I find this interesting, especially with regard to the db408.

Did you test the db408 with both db404's harnessed and working together?


Brian, k5in
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff DePolo 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps



  For a parallel-fed (aka binary-fed, corporate-fed, etc.) antenna, if all of
  the elements are fed in-phase (i.e. the branches in the phasing harness are
  all the same length), as it typical with most dipole arrays, there won't be
  any uptilt/downtilt as you vary the transmitter frequency outside of the
  design range a bit. No matter what the frequency of the carrier is, it's
  always going to hit the elements in-phase, so there won't be any beamtilt. 

  This is constrast to an end-fed (series-fed) collinear, where you will get
  UPTILT if transmitting at a frequency ABOVE the antenna's design range, and
  DOWNTILT if transmitting at a frequency BELOW the antenna's design range.

  --- Jeff WN3A

   -Original Message-
   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Bade
   Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:10 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps
   
   Jeff;
   This is very interesting findings especially in that using 
   an antenna longer than your freq tends to exhibit down tilt... that 
   440 use of a 450 antenna seems to be working in the correct 
   direction. I for one found it very interesting to read
   
   It may be real interesting to see some of the amateur antennas tested 
   too as multiband ones seem to rarely work very well on the upper 
   bands compared to the lower bands of those I have seen
   
   Doug
   
   At 02:32 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
   
   I'm in the process of putting up a remote receiver for a 440 
   ham repeater
   using a Decibel DB413 dipole array cut for 450-470 MHz. Since
   Decibel/Andrew stopped making the 440-450 MHz custom models, 
   I've used the
   usual 450-470 split antennas for receive sites, and they've 
   performed well.
   I swept the DB413, and it measured as I expected. While I had the
   Sitemaster out, I grabbed a few other Decibel dipole arrays 
   out of the
   warehouse and swept them and prepared a little document. 
   Since the topic of
   using commercial-band antennas on amateur frequencies comes 
   up fairly often,
   I figured these measurements might be of some interest to 
   list members.
   
   I tested these antennas with them mounted above ground 
   level, and away from
   nearby objects, with the Sitemaster connected right to the 
   pigtail so what
   you're seeing is the true return loss at the feedpoint. I'll 
   continue to
   test more antennas (not just DB dipole arrays) over time and 
   continue to add
   them to this document. I have gobs of sweeps of antennas, 
   but unfortunately
   many of them were swept at the bottom end of heliax runs 
   rather than right
   at the feedpoint. From now on I'll make it a point to sweep 
   them on the
   ground this way.
   
   The antennas I tested in this first batch are:
   
   DB413, 450-470 MHz
   DB408D, 450-470 MHz
   DB411, 450-470 MHz
   DB411, 406-420 MHz
   
   Note that the DB408D is actually two DB404's on a common 
   mast, each with its
   own pigtail/feedpoint, so there are separate plots for the 
   upper antenna and
   lower antenna. Its performance wasn't what I expected. I 
   have more of the
   same model of antenna, I'll try to test one of the others 
   the next time.
   
   The document can be found here:
   
   http://www.broadsci.com/Antenna 
   http://www.broadsci.com/Antenna 
   http://www.broadsci.com/Antenna http://www.broadsci.com/Antenna 
   Sweeps r1.pdf
   
   If anyone finds this useful please let me know, so I know 
   whether or not
   it's worth the time/effort to continue to test antennas and 
   add them to the
   doc.
   
   --- Jeff WN3A
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] What is this UHF antenna

2009-03-29 Thread allan crites
K5IN,
From the yardstick dimensions of the dipole shown in your photo's it appears 
to me that your antenna was designed with a center freq. of 485 MHz, but that 
does not necessarily mean this or other such antennas are unusable, as a Smith 
Chart design of a suitable simple impedance matching section consisting of 
series and shunt coax attached at the antenna feed-point coax will correct for 
the mismatch occurring at lower freq(s). thus negating the need for any dipole 
or harness modifications. (Been there, done it).
 
Allan Crites  WA9ZZU

--- On Sat, 3/28/09, Steve Allred rff...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Steve Allred rff...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] What is this UHF antenna
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 5:50 PM











K5IN,
The antenna you have is a DB-406. They are a old design and were fairly narrow 
banded (450-470). As a rule they do not make the Ham band with any kind of 
return loss numbers that are desirable for use as a 440 repeater antenna. 
With the loops orientated the way they are in your picture the old DB books 
showed the antenna to have a gain of approx 10.5 db.
You will most likely need to replace the harness, but check it out thoroughly, 
it just might be one of the rare ones that will work well on the 440 band.

73,
Steve / K6SCA

--- On Sat, 3/28/09, k5in k...@comcast. net wrote:


From: k5in k...@comcast. net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] What is this UHF antenna
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 2:04 PM





I know, I am just another (rank) amateur but here are some pictures of the 
mystery antenna.
 
It appears to be 3 dipoles fed on the bottom half and 3 on top.  Harness 
definitely appears to be factory made.
 
Hopefully the pics will help someone to identify this for me.
 
I have more pics















[Repeater-Builder] Which UHF Antenna to Buy?

2009-03-29 Thread k5in
Hi,


Now that I have clearly demonstrated my ignorance about multi bay dipole 
antennas: Which one to buy for the following system.


441.950 output, 2,700ft on a mountain with a 160ft tower.  Antenna will live at 
the 140ft level fed by 78th inch hardline.

I need coverage that will include myself 12 air miles away at 50ft ASL, plus a 
turrane that varies in height from my level up and out to whatever distance.

Do any of you with much more experience of antenna's such as the Decibel 
Products have any suggestions?  Of course I could pay hundreds of dollars for 
site plots and so forth but after all, this is amateur radio.


Thanks for reading and your patience too.


Brian 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-29 Thread Jeff DePolo
  
 Did you test the db408 with both db404's harnessed and 
 working together?

No, I tested the upper and lower halves seprately.  I have some used DB408's
(not the dual version) that I'll try to sweep later.




[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: PCRC II Repeater Controller

2009-03-29 Thread Kent Ochs
Does anyone have an old PCRC II Personal Computer Repeater Controller board 
they are willing to part with?  I need to replace an existing PCRC II 
installation hit by lightning.  Software not required, but I am willing to 
provide a copy(along with a scanned PDF copy of the manual) to anyone that may 
need the software. Thanks.  Kent W9KAO



[Repeater-Builder] Module ID

2009-03-29 Thread n7zef
 I just received a bunch of loose items ( some would call junk) and I found a 
couple of these modules in some ht's. The marking on the edge of the pc board 
reads (MAXON CA-111C). The marking in the ic chip is MX-COM MX335J.
 I know this could be an encoder/ decoder, just wondering how to use it if 
possible and is there any market value in them (2).
 Thanks
 73
 Mike - N7ZEF




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Which UHF Antenna to Buy?

2009-03-29 Thread n3dab
Try this web site for a radio propagation plot or map.  I f you have any 
problems using it email me direct - de_n3...@tds.net - and i'll try to help you 
out.

Doug N3DAB

- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k5in k...@... wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
 Now that I have clearly demonstrated my ignorance about multi bay dipole 
 antennas: Which one to buy for the following system.
 
 
 441.950 output, 2,700ft on a mountain with a 160ft tower.  Antenna will live 
 at the 140ft level fed by 78th inch hardline.
 
 I need coverage that will include myself 12 air miles away at 50ft ASL, plus 
 a turrane that varies in height from my level up and out to whatever distance.
 
 Do any of you with much more experience of antenna's such as the Decibel 
 Products have any suggestions?  Of course I could pay hundreds of dollars for 
 site plots and so forth but after all, this is amateur radio.
 
 
 Thanks for reading and your patience too.
 
 
 Brian





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Which UHF Antenna to Buy?

2009-03-29 Thread n3dab
Ooops, forgot to put the website in the last message.
 
http://lrcov.crc.ca/cov.php?lang=en

It is free and allows you to play with your parameters.

Doug  N3DAB


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k5in k...@... wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
 Now that I have clearly demonstrated my ignorance about multi bay dipole 
 antennas: Which one to buy for the following system.
 
 
 441.950 output, 2,700ft on a mountain with a 160ft tower.  Antenna will live 
 at the 140ft level fed by 78th inch hardline.
 
 I need coverage that will include myself 12 air miles away at 50ft ASL, plus 
 a turrane that varies in height from my level up and out to whatever distance.
 
 Do any of you with much more experience of antenna's such as the Decibel 
 Products have any suggestions?  Of course I could pay hundreds of dollars for 
 site plots and so forth but after all, this is amateur radio.
 
 
 Thanks for reading and your patience too.
 
 
 Brian





[Repeater-Builder] Re: What is this antenna???

2009-03-29 Thread motarolla_doctor
I have a similar DB six element folded dipole antenna that I trying to
resurrect. 

I think it is in the 440-465 range, the flat elements had been relocated 
around the mast, instead of one above the other, from the original long before 
I got it. I put the elements back in line as best as I could using what look 
like the original locations on the mast. I does not test very well.

Photos are here on RB:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/1010903420/pic/list

Thanks for the help,

Motarolla Doc



Jeff DePolo wrote:
 
 If the elements are flat (not tubing), then it's a DB410.  They  
 stopped making them probably in the early 80's?
 
   --- Jeff




Re: [Repeater-Builder] low band duplexer question

2009-03-29 Thread no6b
At 3/29/2009 14:09, you wrote:
Ok, so I've got a nice looking db-4030 duplexer.
Little 6m repeater project cooking.

Now, I've got the tuning sheet and also the scan of a fax of a
modification sheet for 6m.

I also understand it's a reject only setup.

My question is, what are the unterminated T connectors doing all over the
harness?

Please forgive the terrible pictures, I used my cheap motorcycle MP4 camera.

There are 4 T connectors that only have a plastic cap over the female
part.

Just seems crazy to me.

Check out the last page of 
http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4032-low-band-duplexer.pdf. 
According to the table at the lower right, 6 cables on the DB-4032 (6 can 
version of the DB-4030) are omitted for splits 1 MHz or greater.  Also, 
unterminated T connectors @ VHF lowband are going to look pretty much like 
opens, since the line length is very short.  Don't know how much leakage 
you'd get with SO239s; I do know that female Ns left open won't leak, 
especially @ 50 MHz..

Check the schematic in the above referenced page  see if it matches what 
you have, subtracting the 2 outside cans from the schematic.

Bob NO6B



[Repeater-Builder] Sinclair 2H-30-4R6B

2009-03-29 Thread Michael J.Talkington
I have a Sinclair 2H-30-4R6B and it is different than the mods that are on the 
Repeater Builder sit.These are 1970's Units and the plunger assembly bolts to 
the top and has no worm clamp but has a 10-32 hex nut
the bottom of the cavity has bolts and no rivets and is a 8 cavity unit. Has 
anyone ever converted one of these any info on you doing that will be 
appreciated. I can take a pic if needed just e-mail me. thanks Mike KC8FWD 
mikekc8...@verizon.net



[Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread Gran Clark

Hi All

We are duplexing using a UHF 11 element yagi (Cruscraft) in a hostile 
environment.  Last weekend there were a number of 110 MPH gusts.  The 
problem is wind noise.  I have tightened the element hardware with 
some success.  Spray it with water and it is quiet while tapping the 
boom with a small hammer.  The beam is mounted on a 1 1/2 inch 
fiberglass pole.


This is a 195 mile link and using 15 watts out of the 
duplexer.   This has worked fairly well for fifteen years but the 
noise is a recurring problem.


Some thoughts using conductive epoxy, came to mind but also I was 
looking for a supplier of a welded maybe 9 element yagi that might work.


We need a yagi to give co channel protection to the North (beam headed East).

Gran K6RIF 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair 2H-30-4R6B

2009-03-29 Thread Michael J.Talkington
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Michael J.Talkington kc8...@... 
wrote:

 I have a Sinclair 2H-30-4R6B and it is different than the mods that are on 
 the Repeater Builder sit.These are 1970's Units and the plunger assembly 
 bolts to the top and has no worm clamp but has a 10-32 hex nut
 the bottom of the cavity has bolts and no rivets and is a 8 cavity unit. Has 
 anyone ever converted one of these any info on you doing that will be 
 appreciated. I can take a pic if needed just e-mail me. thanks Mike KC8FWD 
 Extra Note these have a few ports where the rg 214 stubs are are left 
 unterminated with a red plastic cap!
 mikekc8...@...





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread John J. Riddell
Gran,  you might want to consider a Sinclair yagi...they are built like a 
battleship !
...not cheap...but they work well.
73 John VE3AMZ



  - Original Message - 
  From: Gran Clark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:55 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi


  Hi All

  We are duplexing using a UHF 11 element yagi (Cruscraft) in a hostile 
environment.  Last weekend there were a number of 110 MPH gusts.  The problem 
is wind noise.  I have tightened the element hardware with some success.  Spray 
it with water and it is quiet while tapping the boom with a small hammer.  The 
beam is mounted on a 1 1/2 inch fiberglass pole. 

  This is a 195 mile link and using 15 watts out of the duplexer.   This has 
worked fairly well for fifteen years but the noise is a recurring problem.

  Some thoughts using conductive epoxy, came to mind but also I was looking for 
a supplier of a welded maybe 9 element yagi that might work.

  We need a yagi to give co channel protection to the North (beam headed East).

  Gran K6RIF 


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread w7trh


Hello Gran, 



I have had good luck with Antennex welded yagi ant. 



Tim W7TRH Wa. 
- Original Message - 
From: Gran Clark k6...@cox.net 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:55:41 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi 






Hi All 

We are duplexing using a UHF 11 element yagi (Cruscraft) in a hostile 
environment.  Last weekend there were a number of 110 MPH gusts.  The problem 
is wind noise.  I have tightened the element hardware with some success.  Spray 
it with water and it is quiet while tapping the boom with a small hammer.  The 
beam is mounted on a 1 1/2 inch fiberglass pole. 

This is a 195 mile link and using 15 watts out of the duplexer.   This has 
worked fairly well for fifteen years but the noise is a recurring problem. 

Some thoughts using conductive epoxy, came to mind but also I was looking for a 
supplier of a welded maybe 9 element yagi that might work. 

We need a yagi to give co channel protection to the North (beam headed East). 

Gran K6RIF 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I'll second that.

Chuck
WB2EDV



  - Original Message - 
  From: John J. Riddell 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi


  Gran,  you might want to consider a Sinclair yagi...they are built like a 
battleship !
  ...not cheap...but they work well.
  73 John VE3AMZ



- Original Message - 
From: Gran Clark 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:55 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi


Hi All

We are duplexing using a UHF 11 element yagi (Cruscraft) in a hostile 
environment.  Last weekend there were a number of 110 MPH gusts.  The problem 
is wind noise.  I have tightened the element hardware with some success.  Spray 
it with water and it is quiet while tapping the boom with a small hammer.  The 
beam is mounted on a 1 1/2 inch fiberglass pole. 

This is a 195 mile link and using 15 watts out of the duplexer.   This has 
worked fairly well for fifteen years but the noise is a recurring problem.

Some thoughts using conductive epoxy, came to mind but also I was looking 
for a supplier of a welded maybe 9 element yagi that might work.

We need a yagi to give co channel protection to the North (beam headed 
East).

Gran K6RIF 



  

[Repeater-Builder] master 2 Pa board

2009-03-29 Thread gervais
Hi 
well i has been many years since  reproducing  the Shuttle audio from my Master 
2 repeater but i think my PA is dead now,,,
no more output,i just transmit by the exiter  )))
i am looking for just the boards of the pa,i dont need the heat 
sink,less heavy in mail cost.

if you have one ,mine was an 110 or  120 watts i dont recall let me know ok,
the rest of my PA may serve me as parts 
if you have one or know where there is one just send an email



thanks for your help

gervais ve2ckn

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread skipp025
This is going to sound (read) crazy... but you might try 
wrapping the antenna with a decent quality electrical tape. 
s. 

 Gran Clark k6...@... wrote:

 Hi All
 
 We are duplexing using a UHF 11 element yagi (Cruscraft) in a hostile 
 environment.  Last weekend there were a number of 110 MPH gusts.  The 
 problem is wind noise.  I have tightened the element hardware with 
 some success.  Spray it with water and it is quiet while tapping the 
 boom with a small hammer.  The beam is mounted on a 1 1/2 inch 
 fiberglass pole.
 
 This is a 195 mile link and using 15 watts out of the 
 duplexer.   This has worked fairly well for fifteen years but the 
 noise is a recurring problem.
 
 Some thoughts using conductive epoxy, came to mind but also I was 
 looking for a supplier of a welded maybe 9 element yagi that might work.
 
 We need a yagi to give co channel protection to the North (beam headed East).
 
 Gran K6RIF





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair 2H-30-4R6B

2009-03-29 Thread Michael J.Talkington
These also have red plastic caps on some of the cavity's where the stub should 
go.
Later Mike KC8FWD




[Repeater-Builder] Re: low band duplexer question

2009-03-29 Thread n3dab
My guess from looking at the schematic is that the tee's are for the grounded 
and ungrounded coaxial cable tuning stubs that were cut for the original 
freqency and have been apparently removed.   Some one else will have to fill 
you in on how to calculate the length, etc for making replacements.

Doug   N3DAB

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n...@... wrote:

 At 3/29/2009 14:09, you wrote:
 Ok, so I've got a nice looking db-4030 duplexer.
 Little 6m repeater project cooking.
 
 Now, I've got the tuning sheet and also the scan of a fax of a
 modification sheet for 6m.
 
 I also understand it's a reject only setup.
 
 My question is, what are the unterminated T connectors doing all over the
 harness?
 
 Please forgive the terrible pictures, I used my cheap motorcycle MP4 camera.
 
 There are 4 T connectors that only have a plastic cap over the female
 part.
 
 Just seems crazy to me.
 
 Check out the last page of 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4032-low-band-duplexer.pdf. 
 According to the table at the lower right, 6 cables on the DB-4032 (6 can 
 version of the DB-4030) are omitted for splits 1 MHz or greater.  Also, 
 unterminated T connectors @ VHF lowband are going to look pretty much like 
 opens, since the line length is very short.  Don't know how much leakage 
 you'd get with SO239s; I do know that female Ns left open won't leak, 
 especially @ 50 MHz..
 
 Check the schematic in the above referenced page  see if it matches what 
 you have, subtracting the 2 outside cans from the schematic.
 
 Bob NO6B





RE: [Repeater-Builder] low band duplexer question

2009-03-29 Thread Chris Curtis
Ok, thanks to ALL the replies.

Yes, the split the duplexer was using IS greater than a 1.5 megs.
Therefore, there are no stubs present, shorted or open.

So, just little caps over where they would have been.

I'll be using a 1.7 meg split so I'm good.

From the 6m conversion fax document, the cable lengths are all STOCK.
The only difference is the helix in each cavity should be cut to 7 and 1/4
turns.

There ya go.

there is a ham repeater out there using the 4 can version.  I found pictures
of the system on the web.  They stated their unit was factory built/tuned to
their freq, not retunes.  Spiffy.

'preciate the help.

Guess having open connections on a set of cans spooked me even though they
had pretty looking factory caps on them.

Chris,
Kb0wlf

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n...@no6b.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] low band duplexer question

At 3/29/2009 14:09, you wrote:
Ok, so I've got a nice looking db-4030 duplexer.
Little 6m repeater project cooking.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread Paul Plack
Tessco/Larson sells this one:

http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=57015eventPage=1

Scala is a favorite among broadcasters, and sells this one with a radome:

http://www.kathrein-scala.com/catalog/RA5-400B.pdf

BTW, Google is amazing. I plugged in welded yagi and at the top of the 
rankings was your original post. That's fast!

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gran Clark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:55 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi


  Hi All

  We are duplexing using a UHF 11 element yagi (Cruscraft) in a hostile 
environment.  Last weekend there were a number of 110 MPH gusts.  The problem 
is wind noise.  I have tightened the element hardware with some success.  Spray 
it with water and it is quiet while tapping the boom with a small hammer.  The 
beam is mounted on a 1 1/2 inch fiberglass pole. 

  This is a 195 mile link and using 15 watts out of the duplexer.   This has 
worked fairly well for fifteen years but the noise is a recurring problem.

  Some thoughts using conductive epoxy, came to mind but also I was looking for 
a supplier of a welded maybe 9 element yagi that might work.

  We need a yagi to give co channel protection to the North (beam headed East).

  Gran K6RIF 
  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Forgot to add that Sinclair makes one for the amateur portion of the band. You 
can order direct - they have a ham discount.

Chuck
WB2EDV



  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Kelsey 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi


  I'll second that.

  Chuck
  WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: John J. Riddell 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi


Gran,  you might want to consider a Sinclair yagi...they are built like a 
battleship !
...not cheap...but they work well.
73 John VE3AMZ


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread Gran Clark

Chuck

I will call Sinclair.   They don't list a welded antenna.  On the 
beam I have  the elements are mounted on the outside of the boom 
which I would think would be hard to make a good weld if I went that way.


Gran


At 07:34 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote:

Forgot to add that Sinclair makes one for the amateur portion of the 
band. You can order direct - they have a ham discount.


Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message -
From: mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.comChuck Kelsey
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

I'll second that.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message -
From: mailto:ve3...@earthlink.netJohn J. Riddell
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

Gran,  you might want to consider a Sinclair yagi...they are built 
like a battleship !

...not cheap...but they work well.
73 John VE3AMZ





Re: [Repeater-Builder] low band duplexer question

2009-03-29 Thread wd8chl
n...@no6b.com wrote:
 At 3/29/2009 14:09, you wrote:
 Ok, so I've got a nice looking db-4030 duplexer.
 Little 6m repeater project cooking.

 Now, I've got the tuning sheet and also the scan of a fax of a
 modification sheet for 6m.

 I also understand it's a reject only setup.

 My question is, what are the unterminated T connectors doing all over the
 harness?

 Please forgive the terrible pictures, I used my cheap motorcycle MP4 camera.

 There are 4 T connectors that only have a plastic cap over the female
 part.

 Just seems crazy to me.


ya know-I look at that and see a 4-port transmit combiner...just 
thinking out loud...


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread Nate Duehr
Thirded on the Sinclair yagi's... they take a ton of years of abuse,  
and don't die.

Nate WY0X

On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Gran Clark wrote:

 Chuck

 I will call Sinclair.   They don't list a welded antenna.  On the  
 beam I have  the elements are mounted on the outside of the boom  
 which I would think would be hard to make a good weld if I went that  
 way.

 Gran


 At 07:34 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote:

 Forgot to add that Sinclair makes one for the amateur portion of  
 the band. You can order direct - they have a ham discount.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Kelsey
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

 I'll second that.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message -
 From: John J. Riddell
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

 Gran,  you might want to consider a Sinclair yagi...they are built  
 like a battleship !
 ...not cheap...but they work well.
 73 John VE3AMZ




 

--
Nate Duehr
n...@natetech.com






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need supplier for UHF welded yagi

2009-03-29 Thread ve7fet
Sinclair makes decent antennas, but if you really want something to survive in 
a harsh environment, check out Comprod Communications.

http://www.comprodcom.com/en/antennas/base/pdf/480-70.pdf

They make antennas that survive nearly anything. Out here on the West Coast we 
routinely get lots of hard rime ice on coastal mountaintop sites, combined with 
100mph+ sustained winds. 

Sinclair antennas get elements snapped off all the time (inherent design flaws, 
even on their HD antennas). The Comprod antennas keep on going.

Regardless, stay away from Bluewave... they may look like a good antenna (and 
physically they are strong), but some of their models have water ingress 
problems which lead to antenna failure.


Lee

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gran Clark k6...@... wrote:

 Chuck
 
 I will call Sinclair.   They don't list a welded antenna.  On the 
 beam I have  the elements are mounted on the outside of the boom 
 which I would think would be hard to make a good weld if I went that way.
 
 Gran