[Repeater-Builder] Any Repeaters Taken Off Air Permanently?

[railtrailbiker]

Hi:

Are there any current or former repeater owners/operators out there who have 
recently taken a repeater off the air on a permanent basis?

If so, what were your reasons?



Tony

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

[Gary]

Mike,
MoSlo Deluxe for DOS takes care of CPU cache automatically and offers an
option to turn the COM port controller's FIFO buffer OFF as well. While I
still use these instructions when executing MoSlo I find my PC's all default
to FIFO OFF anyway.
Gary/N6LRV

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w5jr.mike
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 12:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

Thanks Gary.  I have not been using Deluxe but maybe that is the trick
versus the Basic trial version.  I also expect CPU cache is involved here
somewhere.  I do have the COM port FIFO turned OFF.

-mike/w5jr

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
>
> Yes. I'm running it fine on a PIII and can read and write with 100%
> reliability. The trick is to lauch MoSlo twice in a row. I'm using the
> latest version known as MoSlo Deluxe for DOS. If you are as well then try
> lauching MoSlo once then launch it a second time. You'll see an odd
> processor speed show up after the second execution of MoSlo but ignore it
> and move on to running the RSS. I've tried it on several PIII's with both
> DOS 6.22 and Win 98SE operating systems (Win 98SE booted to DOS of course)
> and every one works equally well.
> Gary/N6LRV
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike/W5JR
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:58 PM
> To: Repeater Builder
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Programming Moto X9000 on a P1
> 
> Oh, great wizards. I have an aging, fragile 386sx laptop that has
faithfully
> programmed my X9000 radio for years. I also have a Compaq LTE P1 120 that
I
> program all of my other Moto radios with successfully except for the
X9000.
> On the Compaq, I have tried booting to real DOS6.22 from a floppy (Windows
> 98SE DOS gives same problem). Using moslo, the X9000 program launches just
> fine but I am unable to read the radio. I receive the dreaded "Serial Bus
> Failure. Power Fault." message.
> 
> I can only guess that the computer speed still hoses the serial port
despite
> using moslo to dial back the computer. I have read through all of the
> repeater-builder and Blenderman sites on the issue. 
> 
> Has anyone made the X9000 program work on a P1?  If not, I guess I'm going
> garage sale shopping. 
> 
> Thanks  
> 
> Mike/W5JR








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Programming Interface 70-1052A

[Matt Harker]

I used to program Midland radios but it's been almost 15 years. 

Are you looking for the eprom oven and burner for the old syntech series or, 
are you looking for the field programming box for the syntech XTR series?

Please let me know; I may be able to get you in touch with an old boss of mine 
who still has the stuff.
 KC5DBH Matt 





From: ridgewiz 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 11:09:18 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Programming Interface 70-1052A

I'm looking for a 70-1052A.  Can any of you direct me to finding one??  Thanks.







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[Repeater-Builder] HLN1185 Heatsink Material?

[Kris Kirby]

Does anyone know what the HLN1185 heatsink is made of? It is aluminum, 
or an odd alloy? I'm thinking it's some form of magnesium case like the 
X9000 (might) have. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[Joe]

rahwayflynn wrote:
>* Non-initialized phones have never been activated for service. These 
> phones may be purchased off the shelf.  NI phones will display wholly random 
> information depending on who made the phone.
>
>   
Some of the early bag phones may not work if they were never initially 
used.  It's a rare chance that you may find one not initialized, but the 
setup channels needed to be programmed into the first bag phones.  
Without the analog setup channels programmed the phone will not be able 
to find service.

If you have an old analog phone and you are able to get service, plus 
get an announcement when you try to make a call, you should have a 911 
capable analog phone.

73, Joe, K1ike

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[rahwayflynn]

Larry,
I would first reach out to the public safety entity that manages the PSAP/911 
system where the repeater is physically located.If they are OK with you 
using an unactivated cellphone, there are several ways to accomplish what you 
want.The terms relevant to the PSAP staff  are UN-INITIALIZED and 
NON-INITIALIZED phones.   Both are going to cause inaccurate data to be 
displays at the PSAP.It's several degrees worse then trying to explain you 
are on a phone patch when calling 911.

* Un-initialized phones are wireless phones that were activated at one time 
with a service plan and call back number.  Previous user's information may 
still appear when calling 9-1-1.
* Non-initialized phones have never been activated for service. These 
phones may be purchased off the shelf.  NI phones will display wholly random 
information depending on who made the phone.

If you end up using a current production cellphone,   Telular 
 makes a device that provides a standard RJ-11 PSTN 
interface.   There are other manufacturers, but I am not sure they are 
available to the end use.  

Possibly adding a cellphone with the RJ-11 to one of the club member cell phone 
accounts as a second phone might be a cheaper alternative to land-line service.

Martin





--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "larynl2"  wrote:
>
> In a few days we will be dropping dialtone service to our repeater.  However, 
> there is still a desire to somehow dial 911.  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[JOHN MACKEY]

I don't think testing with a Nextel phone would be a valid test, since Nextel
and Sprint are not (true) cellphones and have always been digital.

-- Original Message --
Received: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 05:33:39 AM PST
From: Joe 
SNIP
> I don't know what kind of indication the 911 PSAP center gets when an 
> unregistered phone dials 911.  I don't know how much credibility they 
> would give to the call.  I'll be working in a PSAP sometime in the next 
> week and I'll bring my old Nextel phone along and test it and ask some 
> questions. 
> 
> As far as I know, a cellphone must have been activated at least once to 
> make them capable of dialing 911 without paying for service.
> 
> 73, Joe, K1ike

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[Barry]

There are simple boxen which when fitted with a 'phone sim provide a mobile 
phone connection and a cat5e socket ready for a network connection mainly used 
for remote cctv access but will connect via the 5e to other devices , I would 
assume they are available in your part of the world id we have them and cost 
only a couple of hundred max retail ( I remember seeing one with an rj12 phone 
connection somewhere)

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: fwb...@mminternet.com
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:08:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911


















 



  



  
  
  There are devices that provide an RJ-11 jack to interface POTS phones 

with cell phones.  This would permit you to just plug your autopatch 

into the device.  A web search will find these.  They range from high 

end multi-line devices to those in the $100 to $200 price range.



This is a link that shows some of the lower end items.  I am sure that 

there are more out there and there may be better ones than those shown 

here.  This is just one of the pages I found while searching for 

"cellular backup for land line".



http://www.thehightechstore.com/xlink_bttn.htm







 









  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

[Kris Kirby]

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009, Mike/W5JR wrote:
> Oh, great wizards. I have an aging, fragile 386sx laptop that has 
> faithfully programmed my X9000 radio for years. I also have a Compaq 
> LTE P1 120 that I program all of my other Moto radios with 
> successfully except for the X9000. On the Compaq, I have tried booting 
> to real DOS6.22 from a floppy (Windows 98SE DOS gives same problem). 
> Using moslo, the X9000 program launches just fine but I am unable to 
> read the radio. I receive the dreaded "Serial Bus Failure. Power 
> Fault." message.
> 
> I can only guess that the computer speed still hoses the serial port 
> despite using moslo to dial back the computer. I have read through all 
> of the repeater-builder and Blenderman sites on the issue.
> 
> Has anyone made the X9000 program work on a P1?  If not, I guess I'm 
> going garage sale shopping.

The nice part is that the X9000 is the only radio you can't brick while 
programming...

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

[Repeater-Builder] Remore control of quantar p25

[Robert Pease]

I have a quantar repeater tied to a cat 300. Everything works fine and you can 
use analog with the cat control or p25 with the moto controller.  The question 
is,  is there a simple way to turn off p25 if needed remotely? A repeat inhibit 
line somewhere? I have full control of the analog side but not the digital side 
as it is all internal.

Thanks in advance. Rob KS4EC

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[Andrew Seybold]

I have an older Sprint Unit-designed to be used to replace house wired
service, it has an antenna, you plug it into 110vac and then it has an
RJ-11 on it which provides dial-tone and ringing to the rest of the
wired phones in the house-but it can also be used stand-alone. The one I
have has been activated but is no longer in service, I will part with it
for $50 plus shipping if someone wants it.

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Bray
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:08 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

 

  

There are devices that provide an RJ-11 jack to interface POTS phones 
with cell phones. This would permit you to just plug your autopatch 
into the device. A web search will find these. They range from high 
end multi-line devices to those in the $100 to $200 price range.

This is a link that shows some of the lower end items. I am sure that 
there are more out there and there may be better ones than those shown 
here. This is just one of the pages I found while searching for 
"cellular backup for land line".

http://www.thehightechstore.com/xlink_bttn.htm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[Frederick Bray]

There are devices that provide an RJ-11 jack to interface POTS phones 
with cell phones.  This would permit you to just plug your autopatch 
into the device.  A web search will find these.  They range from high 
end multi-line devices to those in the $100 to $200 price range.

This is a link that shows some of the lower end items.  I am sure that 
there are more out there and there may be better ones than those shown 
here.  This is just one of the pages I found while searching for 
"cellular backup for land line".

http://www.thehightechstore.com/xlink_bttn.htm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dropping the Autopatch--Keep 911

[Joe]

I think that your experience is the exception.  I know that the analog 
service here in Connecticut has been shut off.  That means that an 
analog phone cannot even find a setup channel (that's what gives you an 
IN SERVICE indication).  Without setting up on the system you cannot 
originate a call.  Some rural carriers may still have analog 800Mhz 
turned on, but I wouldn't count on it for long.

I don't know what kind of indication the 911 PSAP center gets when an 
unregistered phone dials 911.  I don't know how much credibility they 
would give to the call.  I'll be working in a PSAP sometime in the next 
week and I'll bring my old Nextel phone along and test it and ask some 
questions. 

As far as I know, a cellphone must have been activated at least once to 
make them capable of dialing 911 without paying for service.

73, Joe, K1ike

Facility 406 DM09 wrote:
> So far, all old analog cell phones I have picked up dial 911 without paid
> service.  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

[mike]

Something else you might that has worked for me is disabling the CPU Cache in 
the setup menu this has worked for me many times.
Mike

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

[N9LLO]

I use a program called slowdown and it works for me, check this link, I use 
 the slowint1 utility
 
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Chris
N9LLO
 
 
In a message dated 12/25/2009 11:58:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
w5jr.m...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
Oh, great wizards. I have an aging, fragile 386sx laptop that has  
faithfully programmed my X9000 radio for years. I also have a Compaq LTE P1  
120 
that I program all of my other Moto radios with successfully except for  the 
X9000. On the Compaq, I have tried booting to real DOS6.22 from a floppy  
(Windows 98SE DOS gives same problem). Using moslo, the X9000 program launches  
just fine but I am unable to read the radio. I receive the dreaded "Serial 
Bus  Failure. Power Fault." message.

I can only guess that the computer  speed still hoses the serial port 
despite using moslo to dial back the  computer. I have read through all of the 
repeater-builder and Blenderman sites  on the issue. 

Has anyone made the X9000 program work on a P1? If not,  I guess I'm going 
garage sale shopping. 

Thanks  

Mike/W5JR

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

[w5jr.mike]

Thanks Tom.  I've previously looked at the setup screen accessible during boot. 
 I do believe that cache is turned ON but on my particular computer have not 
discovered a way to turn it off in setup.  I also did not find a "gear shift" 
for speed.

I'll keep looking or find a utility to handle it.
Thanks

-mike/w5jr

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Oliver  wrote:
>
> When you first turn the computer on it will usualy say something like 
> press F5 for boot screen,  do it and go in and see if there is a setting 
> for slower processor speed.
> Select slow speed and also disable the cache . 
> 
> I have to do these two steps with my Toshiba Satalite  and it works fine 
> on my x9000.  Moslo  never worked for me. (long time ago)
> 
> tom
> 
> 
> Mike/W5JR wrote:
> > Oh, great wizards. I have an aging, fragile 386sx laptop that has 
> > faithfully programmed my X9000 radio for years. I also have a Compaq LTE P1 
> > 120 that I program all of my other Moto radios with successfully except for 
> > the X9000. On the Compaq, I have tried booting to real DOS6.22 from a 
> > floppy (Windows 98SE DOS gives same problem). Using moslo, the X9000 
> > program launches just fine but I am unable to read the radio. I receive the 
> > dreaded "Serial Bus Failure. Power Fault." message.
> >
> > I can only guess that the computer speed still hoses the serial port 
> > despite using moslo to dial back the computer. I have read through all of 
> > the repeater-builder and Blenderman sites on the issue. 
> >
> > Has anyone made the X9000 program work on a P1?  If not, I guess I'm going 
> > garage sale shopping. 
> >
> > Thanks  
> >
> > Mike/W5JR

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming Moto X9000 on a P1

[w5jr.mike]

Thanks Gary.  I have not been using Deluxe but maybe that is the trick versus 
the Basic trial version.  I also expect CPU cache is involved here somewhere.  
I do have the COM port FIFO turned OFF.

-mike/w5jr

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
>
> Yes. I'm running it fine on a PIII and can read and write with 100%
> reliability. The trick is to lauch MoSlo twice in a row. I'm using the
> latest version known as MoSlo Deluxe for DOS. If you are as well then try
> lauching MoSlo once then launch it a second time. You'll see an odd
> processor speed show up after the second execution of MoSlo but ignore it
> and move on to running the RSS. I've tried it on several PIII's with both
> DOS 6.22 and Win 98SE operating systems (Win 98SE booted to DOS of course)
> and every one works equally well.
> Gary/N6LRV
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike/W5JR
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:58 PM
> To: Repeater Builder
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Programming Moto X9000 on a P1
> 
> Oh, great wizards. I have an aging, fragile 386sx laptop that has faithfully
> programmed my X9000 radio for years. I also have a Compaq LTE P1 120 that I
> program all of my other Moto radios with successfully except for the X9000.
> On the Compaq, I have tried booting to real DOS6.22 from a floppy (Windows
> 98SE DOS gives same problem). Using moslo, the X9000 program launches just
> fine but I am unable to read the radio. I receive the dreaded "Serial Bus
> Failure. Power Fault." message.
> 
> I can only guess that the computer speed still hoses the serial port despite
> using moslo to dial back the computer. I have read through all of the
> repeater-builder and Blenderman sites on the issue. 
> 
> Has anyone made the X9000 program work on a P1?  If not, I guess I'm going
> garage sale shopping. 
> 
> Thanks  
> 
> Mike/W5JR