RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?

[Bill Hudson]

Thanks for the confirmation.  I was positive it was an error.

 

Bill Hudson – W6CBS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dietrich
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:14 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on 
Mitrek?

 

  

 

It didn't share the same key, the RCA key was the same general shape as the 
CH-751 but would not work.

The RCA key was called an RCA1 key.

 

73 everybody

Mike KB5FLX

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Bill Hudson <mailto:w6...@pacbell.net>  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:57 PM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on 
Mitrek?

 

  

I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola 
Outdoor cabinets.

This could be an error.

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith.

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pointman
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on 
Mitrek?

  

Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a 
pristine one, just in case. 

KM3W


  _  


From: MCH 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on 
Mitrek?

  

GE = BF10A
RCA = CH751

Joe M.

Pointman wrote:
> 
> 
> Like most of the commercial stuff of that era,  the unit was locked 
> into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair 
> to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle 
> with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA 
> also had their "keys"...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a 
> while since I handled any of that old stuff
> 
> KM3W
> 
> --
> *From:* Chuck Kelsey mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.com> >
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock 
> on Mitrek?
> 
> 
> 
> It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway.
> 
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "KP3FT" mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com>  
> <mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com>>
> To:  <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on
> Mitrek?
> 
> > Hi,
> > I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I
> > find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other
> > radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does.
> > Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm
> > asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up
> > and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I
> > need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may 
> end up
> > getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad,
> > it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've 
> had.
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Jeff KP3FT
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?

[Bill Hudson]

I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola 
Outdoor cabinets.

 

This could be an error.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pointman
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on 
Mitrek?

 

  

Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a 
pristine one, just in case. 

KM3W

 

 

  _  

From: MCH 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on 
Mitrek?

  

GE = BF10A
RCA = CH751

Joe M.

Pointman wrote:
> 
> 
> Like most of the commercial stuff of that era,  the unit was locked 
> into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair 
> to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle 
> with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA 
> also had their "keys"...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a 
> while since I handled any of that old stuff
> 
> KM3W
> 
> --
> *From:* Chuck Kelsey mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.com> >
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock 
> on Mitrek?
> 
> 
> 
> It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway.
> 
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "KP3FT" mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com>  
> <mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com>>
> To:  <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on
> Mitrek?
> 
> > Hi,
> > I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I
> > find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other
> > radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does.
> > Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm
> > asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up
> > and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I
> > need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may 
> end up
> > getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad,
> > it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've 
> had.
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Jeff KP3FT
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola style rack speed nuts and screws

[Bill Hudson]

 
The "speed nuts" you refer to are actually called "tinnerman nuts" at
Motorola.  
 
Bill Hudson
Ex-Mo graduation class of 1983
 
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:40 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola style rack speed nuts and screws
 
  
The subject says it all but I'm looking for a source for stainless 
speednuts and screws such as the ones that came with CompaStation 
racks. (looking for around 50 sets)

The "usual" sources (like HomeDepot and various hardware chains) only 
have the crappy ferrous "spring steel" types.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Printing google or Bing maps from the web

[Bill Hudson]

Thanks, I knew it was just too easy!  This is OT anyway, but thanks.  Bill
 
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:03 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Printing google or Bing maps from the
web
 
  
Google earth isn't Google maps.

Kb0wlf

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:42 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Cc: dkupf...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:dkupfers%40sbcglobal.net> 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Printing google or Bing maps from the
web

I guess I don't get it. What am I missing? Gee, "That was easy!"
Google Earth: File, Print.

Then you choose the quality that you want:
. and it sizes the picture only, to print nicely on your printer.
Two clicks of the mouse. Very intuitive. You must be looking for something
more complicated than I realize.
Bill Hudson W6CBS

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06:36:00

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

[Bill Hudson]

Here are the precise instructions on tuning that bad boy to see if it will
stretch to 902-928.  It is on the Repeater-Builder website:

 

http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/pdfs/db-dual-junction-tunable-isolators-f
ield-tuning-instructions.pdf

 

Bill Hudson W6CBS

San Carlos, California

 

(Hi to Knox)

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

 

  

Thats the one Bill! I have 3 units that look just like that, and 3 that have
the "CelWave R.F" on the label. Any HAMs good with Trap Shooting? :-)

 

One more questionif these may stretch to 902 - 928 HAM range, would
there be any way to confirm that, since I dont have the proper setup at the
moment to verify. Would that be verified with the monitor?

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

- Original Message - 

From: Bill Hudson <mailto:w6...@pacbell.net>  

To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

 

  

Here's a picture of one from my office:



Bill Hudson

W6CBS

Thanks all for the speedy responses. I found one more (with a tag to boot!)
assuming they are all the same, they are Model CD800-F, tuned to 875.00 MHz.
Ugh, more 800 crap for the junkpile! Is it wrong to be cursing Nextel? I
will probably be sweeping it with a generator and make sure these are all
the same. With the tag, it should be cake.

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202



<>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

[Bill Hudson]

Here's a picture of one from my office:

 



 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

Thanks all for the speedy responses. I found one more (with a tag to boot!)
assuming they are all the same, they are Model CD800-F, tuned to 875.00 MHz.
Ugh, more 800 crap for the junkpile! Is it wrong to be cursing Nextel? I
will probably be sweeping it with a generator and make sure these are all
the same. With the tag, it should be cake.

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

<>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

[Bill Hudson]

 

I just walked over to the shelf and grabbed 2 or 3 of the identical Dual 
Isolators.  I think these came out of Cell Sites.  That would make them 800 Mhz.

 

I can add to your land fill exercise John!

 

Bill

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

 

  

  

Thanks all for the speedy responses. I found one more (with a tag to boot!) 
assuming they are all the same, they are Model CD800-F, tuned to 875.00 MHz. 
Ugh, more 800 crap for the junkpile! Is it wrong to be cursing Nextel? I will 
probably be sweeping it with a generator and make sure these are all the same. 
With the tag, it should be cake.

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

- Original Message - 

From: tsoli...@tir.  com 

To: Repeater-Builder@  yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:21 PM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please

 

  

Looks like a two stage circulator. One port is for input one for output and the 
other two (that come out the same side) are terminated into 50 ohm dummy loads.

Unknown what frequency range, probably 800-900 range, just guessing.

tom



-Original Message- 
From: La Rue Communications 
Sent: Apr 16, 2010 5:11 PM 
To: Repeater-Builder@  yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Identify Please 






Ran across a box of 5 or 6 of these units. Have no idea what they are aside 
from being a CelWave R.F product. If any of you have one of these, maybe you 
can tell me what it is, and what bandwidth it would be for. Right now, its my 
*guess* that its an 800 band contraption.

 

Thanks for your insight!

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE 1000 Key

[Bill Hudson]

 

Jared

 

Assuming they are kind of a two tone beige GE Master II cabinet, you will
require a GE1000 key.

 

Any local two way shop would have several in desk drawers.  It would be
faster and cheaper than mailing one to you.  A locksmith that has been in
the business for many years might even have one in his bin of keys.

 

Bill W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KE4ZDG
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:58 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE 1000 Key

 

  

Anybody got any spare keys to fit a GE1000 lock on the tall cabinets? I've
got several cabinets in the garage and no keys to fit them.

Thanks,

Jared

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Someone want to spot me?

[Bill Hudson]

I sat back and waited for all the responses, and you're on the right track.

I've done this using band pass cavities on both UHF and VHF.

The only error is that you should not terminate the cavity with a 50 ohm
load.  You will be able to see the difference (terminated, then
unterminated), assuming you are using a spectrum analyzer and tracking
generator.  

Last, you can cascade cavities to increase the suck out notch.  Yes, the
cable length is critical.

Bill W6CBS

 

 

Thanks for the replies folks - some good ideas.

I should have clarified that the spare T-1500 cavities I have are BP 
only. And my plan is to use it as a suck-out (notch) filter. That is 
why I was talking about using a T in line with the receive line.

Ken

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: if you have a commercial licenses check it on the fcc site

[Bill Hudson]

 

Realizing that this is off topic and will end soon. . . 

 

1969 was my first year on the air (19 years old) (BTW:  I'm 60 today, March
30), and had to get a First Class Phone Ticket.  It expired in the files
during my career at Motorola because we didn't post them on the wall.
Feeling bad, I retook the test in 2001 and got the General Radio Operators
License.

 

I couldn't believe it.  Some of the same questions were on there - like Grid
Dip Meter questions!  Kids today would say a "grid dip what?"  Does that
come with chips?

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:10 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: if you have a commercial licenses check
it on the fcc site

 

  

I got the "First Phone" about the same time, and about the same age. I was a
budding DJ, and there were AM stations with complex directional arrays which
would only hire night DJs with the First, because they'd be working alone in
the building and were required to have a First at the control point.

 

I still have that original certificate, with "CANCELLED" stamped across it,
in a little picture frame. You could ask to get them stamped and returned to
you when they expired, I suppose for just that purpose.

 

Someday I'll be asked, "Grandpa, what's that on your wall?"

 

"What's radio?"

 

;^)

 

Paul, AE4KR

 

- Original Message - 

From: Ralph Mowery <mailto:ku...@yahoo.com>  

To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:50 AM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: if you have a commercial licenses check
it on the fcc site

 

  

It was not worth much around 1971 or 72 when I passed the first class.  I
was about 21 at the time.  I had never seen a TV transmitter and only got to
look into a 1000 watt AM station control room and could see the tubes
through  a glass window.  Passed it the first time.

I only wanted the second class, but it only cost $ 1.00 more to take the
first class

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Someone still loves a Motrac - Low Band Even...

[Bill Hudson]

 

I think I have crystals but I'm not sure.  Those took a crystal oven right?
I have ovens for that vintage I think.  What model or what do they look
like?  Gold square/rectangle ovens?  

 

I have some Progress Line ovens too.  

 

Help me remember and I'll look in the drawer dedicated to that old stuff.

 

BTW:  I found two TLN6824 and 1 TLN8381 reeds on 110.9 in my drawer and am
sending them out free to a really nice guy who is restoring an old LHT
Motrac.  He wanted to use genuine reeds - and I was lucky enough to have
them.  My 10 years with Motorola netted a lot of goodies stored in a safe
place.  

 

What do you need?  I don't remember between a 5v and a 41v - what was what.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Someone still loves a Motrac - Low Band
Even...

 

  

I'm still working for an MSS (38 years) and just swapped out my 6 meter
Motrac for a Mitrek. I also just found a VHF TwinV that I'm going to clean
up and restore. By the way, anyone have any 2 meter crystals for a Twin V? 

 

Glenn

W8AK

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Versatone 71.9 Decode chip

[Bill Hudson]

I'll check when I get home and if I have one I will send it to the address
you have listed on QRZ.

 

I usually have what folks are looking for - including reeds all the way back
to TU255a Motorola reeds.

 

I am in need (if anybody has 2 or 3) versatone 100.0 Hz. units.

 

I am good in QRZ at W6CBS

 

Bill

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kg2bv
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:52 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Versatone 71.9 Decode chip

 

  

Does anyone know where I can get a Versatone 71.9 decode chip? 

Thanks, Tony, KG2BV



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Key Collection

[Bill Hudson]

 

Yep -

 

I even have the round grilled speaker that said "Link" in the felt.

 

Bill

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Radioman
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Key Collection

 

  

Did Fred use locks? Perhaps that was your point. I don't remember locks on
the mobiles or upright base stations that I had. Seems like the mobile
covers went on and off similar to the GE twin coffins (which I don't
remember requiring a key). It's hard to remember the details of those radios
except for the 7 volt tubes.

Harry, W0BL

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:42 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Key Collection

Oh yeah..? Got an Allen B. Dumont, (Fred) Link key in 
that collection? 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

[Bill Hudson]

OK - you are getting closer.

 

Yes, from your original description of the Motorola cabinet, the 2553 is
correct.  It is the "Micor / Motrac" era.

 

Yes, the CH751 is the large beige upright cabinet with a handle on it.
"Motrac" era.

 

NO, if it is truly a GE DESKMATE cabinet, it will take a BF10a key.  While
the documentation I referred you to discusses LL201 for a deskmate cabinet,
I have never seen an LL201 work on a deskmate cabinet.  The deskmate was
during the progress line era.

 

LL201, is for what was known as "pre" progress line.  

 

Just for fun, I tried an LL201 in a GE DESKMATE cabinet, and it would not
work.  I'm sure there is an exception somewhere in the world.

 

I have just about every key for all radios including EF Johnson.  I hate
getting locked out of radios and cabinets.  Ha ha 

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

Ok, thanks to all that replied. It looks like it is a 2553 that I need.
Looking at the chart it looks like the CH751 is for the old outdoor cabinet
and the 2553 is for the indoor cabinet.

Also looks like the GE cabinet that I have is probably the "desk mate" and
takes the LL201 key.

 

Ted, K9MDM sent me an email saying that he has those keys for sale. I will
probably get them from him.

 

Thanks again to all

Gary  K4FMX

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:51 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 







 

This is what you saw - and this is what you are looking for:

 

http://www.repeater
<http://www.repeater-builder.com/keyspage/keyspage-index.html>
-builder.com/keyspage/keyspage-index.html

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

Ex-Motorola 1983

 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

Let Me tell You youngsters  out here How bad Memory loss is  , as Some of us
get older I could swear that  on this group  or one I  use Someone  Posted a
File about KEYS But for the life of Me I cannot find it , It listed
Everything .

 

 And I have searched for 2 hours trying to help but did not find it.  Oh
well just wait Some of you will catch up soon ,  My favorite saying is that
it's Great as We get Older to learn something New every day it is
remembering it is the problem 

 

PS Please tell Me that I "am not just making this up 

 

Happy Repeater Building 

 

Don KA9QJG 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

[Bill Hudson]

 

This is what you saw - and this is what you are looking for:

 

http://www.repeater-builder.com/keyspage/keyspage-index.html

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

Ex-Motorola 1983

 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

Let Me tell You youngsters  out here How bad Memory loss is  , as Some of us
get older I could swear that  on this group  or one I  use Someone  Posted a
File about KEYS But for the life of Me I cannot find it , It listed
Everything .

 

 And I have searched for 2 hours trying to help but did not find it.  Oh
well just wait Some of you will catch up soon ,  My favorite saying is that
it's Great as We get Older to learn something New every day it is
remembering it is the problem 

 

PS Please tell Me that I "am not just making this up 

 

Happy Repeater Building 

 

Don KA9QJG 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

[Bill Hudson]

Sorry for posting what has already been said.  Lots happened in the last
couple of hours.  Like is said - it's probably a Cabinet 2553.  The MOT-1 is
not for cabinets so don't waste your time.

 

Bill - W6CBS - Motorola Class of 1983

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

 

Yep - then it's a 2553 (I think it's a 255x) just can't remember the last
number.

 

They are more difficult to find.  Mine is a copy - and there was only room
to print the 255 and the X couldn't fit on the key.

 

If someone doesn't take care of you here - I can get copies.

 

Bill Hudson - ex-Motorola - Class of 1983 - W6CBS

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

Hi Bill,

 

The key is like a 2135 and a 2135 will fit in the lock (I have a 2135) but
it will not open it. I actually have two of these station cabinets and my
2135 key will not open either cabinet.

 

I kind of remember that some of the cabinets had a different key from the
mobiles way back when.

 

Any other guesses?

 

Thanks

Gary  K4FMX

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:37 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 








 

Just because I gamble a little - I'm going to bet that the older Motorola
cabinet is a CH751.  This is a one sided key unlike a 2135.

 

The Micor cabinets became a 2553.  Cabinet Keys more prominent in the high
power stations.

 

I'll go along with the BF10a for the Prog Line - that's for sure.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they
are hard to find but around-I can make you copies if you want to pay the key
making price and postage.

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It
is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot
tall cabinet. 

Anyone know the key number for these?
Have a key?

Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This
cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide.

Thanks!
Gary K4FMX

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

[Bill Hudson]

 

Yep - then it's a 2553 (I think it's a 255x) just can't remember the last
number.

 

They are more difficult to find.  Mine is a copy - and there was only room
to print the 255 and the X couldn't fit on the key.

 

If someone doesn't take care of you here - I can get copies.

 

Bill Hudson - ex-Motorola - Class of 1983 - W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

Hi Bill,

 

The key is like a 2135 and a 2135 will fit in the lock (I have a 2135) but
it will not open it. I actually have two of these station cabinets and my
2135 key will not open either cabinet.

 

I kind of remember that some of the cabinets had a different key from the
mobiles way back when.

 

Any other guesses?

 

Thanks

Gary  K4FMX

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:37 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 







 

Just because I gamble a little - I'm going to bet that the older Motorola
cabinet is a CH751.  This is a one sided key unlike a 2135.

 

The Micor cabinets became a 2553.  Cabinet Keys more prominent in the high
power stations.

 

I'll go along with the BF10a for the Prog Line - that's for sure.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they
are hard to find but around-I can make you copies if you want to pay the key
making price and postage.

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It
is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot
tall cabinet. 

Anyone know the key number for these?
Have a key?

Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This
cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide.

Thanks!
Gary K4FMX

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

[Bill Hudson]

 

Just because I gamble a little - I'm going to bet that the older Motorola
cabinet is a CH751.  This is a one sided key unlike a 2135.

 

The Micor cabinets became a 2553.  Cabinet Keys more prominent in the high
power stations.

 

I'll go along with the BF10a for the Prog Line - that's for sure.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they
are hard to find but around-I can make you copies if you want to pay the key
making price and postage.

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted

 

  

I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It
is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot
tall cabinet. 

Anyone know the key number for these?
Have a key?

Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This
cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide.

Thanks!
Gary K4FMX

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Controller

[Bill Hudson]

Andy

 

The attached will get you started with a repeater on port 1, and 3 remote
bases on 2 3 and 4.

 

There are no id's included, although the contents have a line that deletes
them.

 

Follow them with a new ID on the next line.

 

It has a cactus style beep boop - but you can change it to anything you
want.

 

Hang times are there for the repeater, but zero for ports 2 3 and 4.

 

You can reverse engineer these commands and put in the parameters that you
want to change, and then load this back in as an ascii file to the
controller.

 

Each time you want to change something, change the attached .txt file, and
upload it again.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Controller

 

  

I am in the process of installing a new 6 Meter GE Mastr II repeater for our
radio club, it came with a pre-programmed RLC-4 controller since the package
was removed from service elsewhere. I don't loaded the software on the RLC-4
site but found out that I cannot use it to read the controller, only to
reprogram it for the new call sign etc. 

I am hoping that someone on here has figured out a way to import an existing
RLC-4 set-up data so that it can be modified and I don't have to go through
the entire programming from the beginning-anyone have experience with this?

 

Thanks

 

Andy W6AMS

 

cid:image001.jpg@01CA5969.2F1EB460

 <mailto:aseyb...@andrewseybold.com> aseyb...@andrewseybold.com

315 Meigs Road, Suite A-267
Santa Barbara, CA 93109
805-898-2460 office
805-898-2466 fax

 <http://www.andrewseybold.com> www.andrewseybold.com

 



<>;Pineapple Radio Network RLC-4 Software Version 1.79
;
;February 16, 2005
;
;   This is a setup for a Big Island RLC-4 V 1.79
;
; Port 1 is a repeater
; Port 2 is a half duplex link
; Port 3 is a half duplex link
; Port 4 is a half duplex link
;
n045*0* Turn off CW responses to serial ports
; 
n000*11*Port 1 a repeater
n002*22*Port 2 no repeat
n002*33*Port 3 no repeat 
n002*44*Port 4 no repeat
;
n009*   Display cross points
;
n005*11*Port 1 is carrier access
n005*21*Port 2 is carrier access
n005*31*Port 3 is carrier access
n005*41*Port 4 is carrier access
;
n007*11*Port 1 Mutes TT 
n007*20*Port 2 Passes TT 
n007*30*Port 3 Passes TT
n007*40*Port 4 Passes TT
;
n013*100*   Port 1 Cor act lo, PL act Lo
n013*210*   Port 2 Cor act Hi, PL act Lo
n013*300*   Port 3 Cor act Lo, PL act high
n013*400*   Port 4 Cor act Lo, PL act high
; 
;   Programming Timers
;
n020*04150  Courtesy Beep Delay 1.5 seconds after COR
n020*05150  Courtesy Beep Delay 1.5 seconds after COR
n020*06150  Courtesy Beep Delay 1.5 seconds after COR
n020*07150  Courtesy Beep Delay 1.5 seconds after COR
;
n020*08500* Port 1 hang time is 5 seconds
n020*09000* Port 2 no hang time
n020*1* Port 3 no hang time
n020*11000* Port 4 no hang time
;
;   Disable mini hang timers 
;
N020*190*   Port 1 mini hang timer off 
N020*200*   Port 2 mini hang timer off
N020*210*   Port 3 mini hang timer off
N020*220*   Port 4 mini hang timer off
;
;   Time out timers
; 
n020*52600* Port 1 Rx TOT 10 minutes
n020*53600* Port 2 Rx TOT 10 minutes
n020*54600* Port 3 Rx TOT 10 minutes
n020*55600* Port 4 Rx TOT 10 minutes
;
n020*57003* Port 2 h/dux link 3 second pre access tone
n020*58003* Port 3 h/dux link 3 second pre access tone
n020*59003* Port 4 h/dux link 3 second pre access tone
;
Set Port 2 Preaccess tone to 400 Hz.
Set Port 3 Preaccess tope to 400 Hz.
Set Port 4 preaccess tone to 400 Hz.
;
Port 1 config * preaccess with macro 170
Port 2 config #04 preaccess, with tone in macro 171
Port 3 config #04 preaccess, with tone in macro 172 
 
Port 4 config #04 preaccess, with tone in macro 173
;
;   IDers
;
;   All CW speeds default at 20 wpm from factory
;   All CW tone frequencies default to 1064 Hz.
; 
;   Set up Automatic IDs
;
n055*151Delete Port 1 Initial ID
n055*152Delete Port 2 Initial ID
n055*153Delete Port 3 Initial ID
n055*154Delete Port 4 Initial ID
n055*155Delete Port 1 Pending ID
n055*156Delete Port 2 Pending ID
n055

RE: [Repeater-Builder] FS Motorola RTL4119 Test Set

[Bill Hudson]

 

That's a nice test set - I'm looking for the test cable for an MSF5000 which
I think is a
 RTK4046A

 

I've had that cable on eBay search for 4 years and never got a hit.  Maybe
it doesn't exist.

 

Bill W6CBS

  

mint condition, no case, $400 OBO

http://www.ve6vs.com/motorola-test-rtl4119.htm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems

[Bill Hudson]

Follow your experience and conscience.  Nobody builds an amplifier that will
work forever, but Henry will always cover you if you are close to the
warranty.  

 

Both purchase, quality, repair, and customer service have been excellent
with Henry.

 

Talk to Shorty K6JSI (Win System) about the TE Amplifier he sent back for
repair and never got it back.

 

Bill W6CBS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Adkins
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:44 PM
To: repeater-builder
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems

 

  

Okay all, looking for opinions.

 

Our club is going to purchase a 220 amplifier and a 440 amplifier for our
repeaters.

 

For 220, we're looking at either the TE Systems 2210RAN or the Henry
C100B10R

For UHF, it's either the TE Systems 4412RA or the Henry C100D30R.

 

We have a Henry C300C30R in use for about 3-1/2 years now (running it at
250w output) on our 6-meter repeater and had to send it in about 13 months
into its life to have the finals replaced.  No problems since, though.  I
was pleased with Henry's response to the problem.  Even though it was out of
warranty, they fixed it under warranty.

 

Though the TE systems amplifiers have more output (150w vs 100w), I have
concerns about their reliability.  The local D* repeater has had a lot of
problems with their VHF amplifier, and it's not very clean (of course, that
could be the fault of the D* repeater transmitter, too!).

 

What are your opinions, TE Systems vs Henry?  


-- 
James Adkins, KB0NHX
Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN)
www.nixahams.net

Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater
Council
www.missourirepeater.org

The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - "There is no charge for awesomeness!" (Well,
only $1.00 per month)

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Older RLC Controller Programming Question.

[Bill Hudson]

Rick

 

Thank you for saving me the time.  I have every Linkcomm controller made,
distributed through our repeater sites, but do not have a 2a.  I would have
had to download the manual and learn the "old code" they used on those
controllers.  I never bought one because they were going to be discontinued.


 

Bill - W6CBS

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Older RLC Controller Programming
Question.

 

  

I shall cut and past what I use for IRLP on my 2a .. it shall be in your box
in a little bit !

Rick

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM, skipp025 mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com> com> wrote:

  

Thank you to everyone who has already replied and 
here's the equipment info as supplied by the club 
member: 

[pasted text]
"It's an RLC-2a, an old and discontinued model from Link. 
My issue is that I do not want the uhf link transmitter 
to ID on its own. It should only ID when someone is talking. 
To have the link transmitter on the mountain key and ID on 
its own would make IRLP almost useless
[end pasted text] 

The mentioned port has a uhf radio (simplex) used for 
IRLP in/out. 

thanks in advance to everyone for your input/help. 

skipp 


> "Bill Hudson"  wrote:
> Skipp
> 
> Give us the model of the controller, the port he wants 
> the ID to come out, if he wants it in voice or CW, and 
> what the call sign should be.
> 
> 
> 
> I can probably do it in 60 seconds, unless it's an old RLC-2.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Hudson
> 
> W6CBS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:08 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Older RLC Controller Programming Question.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hay skipp you have helped me so much .. :)
> 
> email me the model and I will fire you off some code 
> 
> rick
> 
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM, skipp025  <mailto:skipp...@...> com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> re: Older RLC Controller Programming Question. 
> 
> A local ham club has a 2 meter repeater on port 
> 1 and a uhf link radio (not duplex) on port 2. I 
> don't use Link Controllers so I figured one of you 
> here on the Group could save us a fair bit of time. 
> 
> Does someone with an older RLC Multi Port Controller 
> have the simplex Tx ID programming information/examples 
> they would be nice enough to share. Do you require 
> the exact Controller Model or is the format for all 
> their RLC Multi-Port Controllers the same format?
> 
> We only need to add an ID on the second port used 
> for the simplex uhf link. Programming examples and 
> information for the 2nd port (only) would be much 
> appreciated. 
> 
> thank you in advance for your replies. 
> 
> cheers, 
> skipp 
> 
> skipp025 at yahoo.com 
> 
> [pasted text from Ham Club member requesting help] 
> 
> We have an older model RLC controller which doesn't have 
> a user-friendly programming method. The trouble is putting 
> an ID on the transmitter on the Mountain can be something 
> of a pain because the controller only wants to send out 
> ID's over radios that are configured in "repeater" mode. 
> In "remote base" mode, the ID doesn't seem to want to work 
> properly.
>

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Older RLC Controller Programming Question.

[Bill Hudson]

 

Skipp

 

Give us the model of the controller, the port he wants the ID to come out,
if he wants it in voice or CW, and what the call sign should be.

 

I can probably do it in 60 seconds, unless it's an old RLC-2.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:08 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Older RLC Controller Programming Question.

 

  

hay skipp  you have helped me so much .. :)

email me the model and I will fire you off some code 

rick

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM, skipp025 mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com> com> wrote:

  

re: Older RLC Controller Programming Question. 

A local ham club has a 2 meter repeater on port 
1 and a uhf link radio (not duplex) on port 2. I 
don't use Link Controllers so I figured one of you 
here on the Group could save us a fair bit of time. 

Does someone with an older RLC Multi Port Controller 
have the simplex Tx ID programming information/examples 
they would be nice enough to share. Do you require 
the exact Controller Model or is the format for all 
their RLC Multi-Port Controllers the same format?

We only need to add an ID on the second port used 
for the simplex uhf link. Programming examples and 
information for the 2nd port (only) would be much 
appreciated. 

thank you in advance for your replies. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

[pasted text from Ham Club member requesting help] 

We have an older model RLC controller which doesn't have 
a user-friendly programming method. The trouble is putting 
an ID on the transmitter on the Mountain can be something 
of a pain because the controller only wants to send out 
ID's over radios that are configured in "repeater" mode. 
In "remote base" mode, the ID doesn't seem to want to work 
properly. 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Rugged 420 Omni

[Bill Hudson]

 

After going through the research, the best money I ever spent was on the
Spirit 6 dB fiberglass end fed antennas.  I have posted pictures of this
antenna in its rugged icy environment in the photos over a year ago.  I use
the Heavy Duty model exclusively throughout our network of repeaters on 440
and 420 omni hubs.  I use the radome encased Kathreine 10 dB yagis for
directional 420 links.  When you buy quality, it only hurts once.

 

Here's a link to the three pictures posted on this Yahoo Group.

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/332855180/pic/li
st

 

Bill Hudson - W6CBS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yahoo
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:20 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Rugged 420 Omni

 

  

Bluewave !

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of burkleoj
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rugged 420 Omni

I have a need for a 420/425 MHz 6 db or more gain omni antenna for a hub
linking site.

The site is covered in ice and snow for 6-7 months a year and accessible
only by snow cat during those times.

Anyone have anything lying around they would like to sell?

Whats everyone's favorite antenna for this purpose?

Thanks,
Joe - WA7JAW



Yahoo! Groups Links

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

[Bill Hudson]

 

Hey - and everybody should be nice to Nate today - it's his birthday today -
Monday October 12, 2009

 

Bill Hudson

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  

You all (well, everyone who's been here a while) know my general loathing
for fiberglass stick antennas, since our lightning here turns them into
pretty white bits of fiberglass blowing around the top of the mountain by
the time you realize something's wrong with the repeater...

 

But... after all the good comments about the Hustler Spirit antennas, if I
*had* to use a fiberglass stick, it'd be first in line in the spreadsheet
for cost/benefit analysis!  :-)

 

Otherwise, 99.9% of the time, it's Sinclair folded dipole arrays for me.
The heavy-duty ones, not the wimpy little ones.  (GRIN!)

 

And to the guy who just showed up saying he has "always wanted to build a
repeater"... yeah, me too... so I started volunteering with a group that
needed some help years ago, and now I have repeaters coming out my ears.  

 

No need to build your own... in most areas there's PLENTY of repeaters that
aren't performing up to spec, and/or need some TLC.  Getting involved is
step one, step two is shelling out real money for your own test gear, and
once you have that... you're "sucked in" forever.  And not just for your
machines, it's like the bumper sticker you see on pickup trucks...

 

"Yes, this is my pickup truck.  No I won't help you move."  LOL! 

 

Can change that to... 

 

"Yes, this is my service monitor.  No I won't help you tune your duplexer."
Haha... of course, reality is... you will.  'Cause you're a "good ham"...
just make 'em bring beer over... and save the beer for AFTER you've done the
tuning... 

 

 
--
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  n...@natetech.com

 

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04 -0700, "Bill Hudson"  wrote:

  

 

After installing some Hustler Spirit HD antennas in snow and ice conditions,
and visiting the site to see several inches of radial ice everywhere, I
became a dealer for them.  

 

They are built after the order to frequency.  I ordered a 420 9 dB HD Omni,
and a 440 9 dB Omni, and the 420 antenna was physically longer when compared
side by side.  Makes sense, but it's nice they are not using a one size fits
all fiberglass case.  

 

I won't have to be worrying about replacing the Spirit Antennas for a long
time, while I enjoy good coverage from the antennas.  I have a statement
that I always share:  "When you buy quality, it only hurts once."

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hancock
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:16 AM
To: repeater builders
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  


Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the Hustler
Spirit series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters without the
"charging you for the name" price.
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit.html

Dan N8DJP

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>

> 
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800
bucks to buy one.


You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics, Joliet, IL.
800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other than being a very
satisfied customer.

Laryn K8TVZ





 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

[Bill Hudson]

After installing some Hustler Spirit HD antennas in snow and ice conditions,
and visiting the site to see several inches of radial ice everywhere, I
became a dealer for them.  

 

They are built after the order to frequency.  I ordered a 420 9 dB HD Omni,
and a 440 9 dB Omni, and the 420 antenna was physically longer when compared
side by side.  Makes sense, but it's nice they are not using a one size fits
all fiberglass case.  

 

I won't have to be worrying about replacing the Spirit Antennas for a long
time, while I enjoy good coverage from the antennas.  I have a statement
that I always share:  "When you buy quality, it only hurts once."

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hancock
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:16 AM
To: repeater builders
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  


Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the Hustler
Spirit series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters without the
"charging you for the name" price.
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit.html

Dan N8DJP

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>

> 
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800
bucks to buy one.


You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics, Joliet, IL.
800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other than being a very
satisfied customer.

Laryn K8TVZ




 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??

[Bill Hudson]

You may not be seeing the answer you want to see.  

 

Pulling from old memory cells, I think the RBI-1 pulls the COR from a serial
data stream connected through the Microphone Jack.  I don't believe there is
a "graceful" way of pulling the data off a pin somewhere.  

 

You may have to do surgery on the guts of the radio to pull out a hi/lo
indication like you want.

 

Bummer huh!

 

Bill W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??

 

  

I *know* this is out there somewhere, but apparently I am WAYYY to 
stupid to run google right now.

I have a TM-331 I am making in to a single frequency remote base. Where 
can I find a COR in this radio? I see TONS of references to using an 
RBI-1, but I am only using ONE channel.

Apparently I have been out in the sun too long or something. Maybe 
Google is having trouble reading my mind... Yea, That's it!!

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Phelps Dodge 522-509 Duplexers

[Bill Hudson]

 

I scanned the Phelps Dodge 522-509 duplexer manual into the files section of
this Yahoo group back in February of this year.

 

Look in FILES and find PD-522-509.pdf and you will have the manual.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Phelps Dodge 522-509 Duplexers

 






At 07:46 PM 06/29/09, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the specs for these cans? BTW, I have the tuning
>instructions for them if anyone wants a copy.
>
>73, Joe,. K1ike

That's one of the units that is not on the antenna systems page at 
repeater-builder.

I'd really like a copy of the tuning instructions for the web page, 
and if anyone has a data sheet that would be welcome as well. Can I 
get a couple of photos of it?

Mike WA6ILQ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Taxes On Antennas & Feedlines? What Next?

[Bill Hudson]

By law, my boat is non-commercial and does not generate revenue by providing
boating recreation.  Therefore, it is not exempt.  

 

It's a property tax, not a use tax.  Same for ham radio.

 

W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rert...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Taxes On Antennas & Feedlines? What Next?

 






By law, amateur radio is non-commercial and does not generate revenue by
providing communications.  Therefore, it's exempt.

Dick



-Original Message- 
From: ran...@farmtel.net 
Sent: Apr 30, 2009 4:46 PM 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Taxes On Antennas & Feedlines? What Next? 









Maybe this is not new in other states but it appears to be gaining 
momentum here in Iowa.

The county real estate assessors are charging taxes on all cables and 
antennas on commercial towers. This is whether there is any radio 
equipment connected or not.

Currently I have a couple ham repeaters running on unused antennas on 
these towers owned by my employer. Nice tall towers too! 

Now my employer wants these antennas and feed lines removed so taxes 
won't have to be paid on non-revenue generating antennas.

My current plans are to form a non-profit corporation and file for an 
exemption for the antennas and feed lines.

I would like to hear how others have tackled another attempt by 
government to tax the things we enjoy.

Randy
WB0VHB

RE: [Repeater-Builder] VXR-7000 Programming

[Bill Hudson]

 

Make sure you're on the right com port.

Attempting to program a VXR-7000 using CE-27 (using factory cables &
software). No problems in the past. This time around, gives a read error
"invalid data receive". Also, flashes "CL" and "ON" repeatedly, along with
"CLN" on the ANI display...can't remember if this occured last time or not.
Any advice? Thanks.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Awfully quiet today

[Bill Hudson]

I haven't followed this "Awfully quiet today" - been hitting the delete
button, but noticed there was discussion about Echolink / ports 5198, 5199.
I have an Echo/IRLP node in Verizon territory, using DSL.  I fought their
Westell A90-xxx-xxx wireless / modem for awhile until I found it was easier
to turn it into a gateway (search the internet for one of the sources on how
to do it if it isn't obvious browsing through the menus) (and don't forget
to turn the wireless OFF when you do that), and then put a Linksys WRT54G
behind it - and set up the port forwarding in the traditional manner so
everything worked for IRLP, Echolink, and many other uses where ports needed
to be open.  The nodes are on the other end of a wireless wet11 and work
perfect.  You may not want to add the hardware, but I had it as spare.

Bill - W6CBS


On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Wesley Bazell wrote:

> Hi Nate
>
> Have you any experiance on Echolink, opening Ports 5198,5199 with 
> verizon.net? Have not been sucessful in doing this. I realize this 
> may be off Topic.
>
> Wesley AB8KD

Not Verizon specifically, they're (mostly) not a carrier for anything 
other than cellular and wireline IP for big business out here in 
Colorado. We're "Qwest country", for better or for worse... on 
residential service.

Haven't seen any complaints from the EchoIRLP mailing list on 
YahooGroups about Verizon specifically though... AFAIK they're not 
blocking anything, the router just has to be told what to route to 
whatever internal IP address you're using...

I could be wrong... might be worth asking on a more VoIP linking 
focused mailing list like that one, or whatever lists Echolink has 
going. (I don't know on that one... I only do EchoIRLP and use the 
Windows EchoLink client from time to time, or EchoMac...)

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
n...@natetech.  com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply

[Bill Hudson]

 

Find the TPN- Number on it.  Then Google it.

 

Looks like Mocom 70 era of Motorola Supplies

 

Bill

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:06 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply

 

can anyone identify this supply

thanks in advance

Merrill
KG4IDD

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

[Bill Hudson]

It could be a TDD-6082

See here:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna
made by Motorola

 

Mark

My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. 

Doug N3DAB

--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "Mark"  wrote:
>
> I'm confused. This was described initially as a "repeater antenna" but if
I
> Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which
> are we talking about?
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
> 
> Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
> Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
> in on that.
> 
> Doug N3DAB
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "gebhardstephen" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you
> know who made this for Motorola?
> > 
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "n3dab"  wrote:
> > >
> > > It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it
> would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in > > SWR in
> the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
> > > 
> > > Doug N3DAB
> --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "gebhardstephen" 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot
> find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last
> of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
> unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
> a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
> with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some
> infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all,
> and have a great day!
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds

[Bill Hudson]

Since we're all pushing our memories - I remember RED ones being sponders,
and BLUE ones being senders

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds

 

  Mark,  
 I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders.
de, Lee
K4LJP
73

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy mailto:ctra...@gmail.com> com> wrote:

I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to 
have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right.

James



Mark wrote:
> I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't
> remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. 
> Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3).
>
> Can anyone remember if these "-sponders" are or "-senders"??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark - N9WYS
>
>
>
>

> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> 




-- 
"Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid."

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds

[Bill Hudson]

Joe ~

 

Your address won't work on the USPS shipping label - it says that the
address is wrong.

 

I looked you up on QRZ, and it has a different address for you - 

 

WA7JAW

CARL T BURKLEO

1050 1/2 N JUNIPER ST

COQUILLE, OR 97423

USA

 

 

I'm about to try this address to see if the USPS shipping label will accept
it - 

 

What's the deal?

 

Bill

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Burkleo
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds

 

Eric and Bill,
Thanks for the reply and help.

You are both correct in that some of the reeds will not work in all
applications. 

My application, which I should have specified is in a Micor factory
repeater station. The station PL decoder and encoder boards that I
have will accept either the fat or thin reeds.

Eric, thanks for keeping me honest here, as you are such a wealth of
knowledge on these radios, and your posts are always so informative to
read.

Thanks everyone for all of the reply's and help.

Joe - WA7JAW 

--- In Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hudson"  wrote:
>
> Eric,
> 
> 
> 
> The "thin" one is the vibrasender "sender" as in transmit - and it is a
> TLN6824a
> 
> 
> 
> The "fat" one is the vibrasponder "responds or rx the PL tone" - and
it's a
> TLN8381A
> 
> 
> 
> This is always the case, and they are not interchangeable between
transmit
> and receive.
> 
> 
> 
> The 88.5 PL frequency is referred to as YB. 
> 
> 
> 
> I looked in my box of reeds and found two Vibrasponders (TLN8381A)
for him,
> and emailed him directly as he requested.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't have any Vibrasenders (TLN6824A) with that tone, so he's still
> looking.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Hudson - "ex-Mo" - Graduation class of 1983 - W6CBS.
> 
> 
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:28 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds
> 
> 
> 
> Joe,
> 
> You should be specific about your needs. Some Micor reeds are thin
and some
> are fat- and won't fit in some radios. What part numbers do you need?
> 
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Burkleo
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:53 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds
> 
> Hello,
> I am in need of a couple sets of 88.5 Micor series sponders and senders.
> I do have several other tones in my reed collection to trade or let me
> know what you want for them.
> 
> Please email me privately off the list if you have anything.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe - WA7JAW
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds

[Bill Hudson]

Eric,

 

The "thin" one is the vibrasender "sender" as in transmit - and it is a
TLN6824a

 

The "fat" one is the vibrasponder "responds or rx the PL tone" - and it's a
TLN8381A

 

This is always the case, and they are not interchangeable between transmit
and receive.

 

The 88.5 PL frequency is referred to as YB.  

 

I looked in my box of reeds and found two Vibrasponders (TLN8381A) for him,
and emailed him directly as he requested.

 

I don't have any Vibrasenders (TLN6824A) with that tone, so he's still
looking.

 

Bill Hudson - "ex-Mo" - Graduation class of 1983 - W6CBS.

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds

 

Joe,

You should be specific about your needs. Some Micor reeds are thin and some
are fat- and won't fit in some radios. What part numbers do you need?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Burkleo
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Needed 88.5 Micor PL Reeds

Hello,
I am in need of a couple sets of 88.5 Micor series sponders and senders.
I do have several other tones in my reed collection to trade or let me
know what you want for them.

Please email me privately off the list if you have anything.

Thanks,
Joe - WA7JAW

RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer

[Bill Hudson]

 

I just uploaded the manual for the 


application/pdf

PD-522-509.pdf
<http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/QKKISXVJzk1H25Gw-jX2o6QkQaLp7PwFU4-gc_uABT4ful
y5TVGc2b536zWTjbBUM_MMhUUfS_8DVxpBedWJwoed/PD-522-509.pdf>  

In the files section of this Yahoo Group

 

W6CBS - Bill Hudson

 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:31 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer

 


If I remember right, it's four notches and two passes. The normal
configuration was one pass and one notch on the Rx leg, and two pass and two
notch on the Tx leg.

--- Jeff WN3A

> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer
> 
> hi all,
> 
> I have a Phelps Dodge RFS/Celwave) 522-509 old UHF 6 cavity duplexer. 
> Each cavity has one tuning rod only.
> 
> Does anyone know what type of duplexer, bpbr, bp, br, etc 
> this critter 
> is. I am trying to tune.
> 
> 73, ron, n9ee/r
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. <http://www.avg.com> com
> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1911 - Release 
> Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM
> 
> 
> 

 

<>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have an email address or a phone number for K5JXM ?

[Bill Hudson]

 

Chris - you are not a licensed amateur radio operator.

You got your GMRS system less than a year ago.

You live in Newport County, where records show a significant amount of
information.

 
 CHRIS L CARRUBA
 Get More Information

25 BRISTOL FERRY RD 
PORTSMOUTH, RI   
02871
 (401) 683-3394   
 

Complete Report on CHRIS L CARRUBA 

It's all out there for everyone to see.  

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Carruba
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have an email address or a phone
number for K5JXM ?

 

I would be extremely pissed off if someone published my personal info on a
public board in this manor.


Chris Carruba (WQIK389)

CompuTec Data Systems
Custom Written Software, 
Networking, Forensic Data Recovery

 

 

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From: John J. Riddell 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:36:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have an email address or a phone
number for K5JXM ?

Mike, from the Internet...

73 John VE3AMZ

Jesse Marroquin
2312 Senna Hills Ln
Plano, TX 75025-4786
(972) 396-5807

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris WA6ILQ" mailto:wa6ilq%40gmail.com> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have an email address or a phone number 
for K5JXM ?

> I'm looking for contact info for Jesse Marroquin K5JXM in Plano Texas.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
>  - - --
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Duplexer Info Needed

[Bill Hudson]

 

There you go Joe!  The man with all the answers!  That sounds like the exact
situation you have!

 

Good work on that info!  

 

Now I'll have to go back and see what the deal was with the duplexer we had
here!

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nj902
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Duplexer Info Needed

 

The technical data for the UHF MSR2000 duplexers is contained in a 
section of the UHF station manual, 68-81061E55, behind the "OPTIONS" 
tab.

This section was not included in the original -O release of the 
manual but is definitely in newer manuals such as the -C version.

The MSR2000 duplexer family consists of several 2 and 4 cavity 
models covering the frequency range from 406-520 MHz. The same 
TRN9041A cavities are used in all of the models, thus the mechanical 
construction of the cavities should not be a factor in your issue.

Different antenna and interconnect cable sets are used for each of 
the three frequency ranges: 406-430 MHz, 430-470 MHz, and 470-520 
MHz.

The 4 cavity T4085A models operate at T-R spacings of greater than 3 
MHz whereas the T5002A models are configured for separations between 
2 and 3 MHz. These use a different set of coupling loops than the 
T4085A.

The maximum input power specification for these duplexers is 250 
Watts.

--

--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "Joe Burkleo" 
 wrote:

"I have a Motorola 4 can duplexer out of a UHF MSR2000 series radio 
that is the pass/notch style. ...

I can not find any info on this unit ..."

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Duplexer Info Needed

[Bill Hudson]

 

Joe

 

You just happen to have one of the series of duplexers that does not make it
all the way down into the bottom of the ham band at 440.xxx Mhz.

If it truly is the Motorola duplexer out of the MSR2000 series repeaters,
they - in fact - do not tune down to the bottom of the band.  The original
T-1500 series duplexers make it fine, but the mechanics of the tuning in
these specific cavities "bottom out" before making it to the lowest part of
the 440 - 450 MHz. band.

 

What you are experiencing is normal.  Trying tuning it up in the 444.9 /
449.9 range, and you will see it works fine.

 

Maybe you can trade it with one that you know will be going on a higher
frequency.  

 

Interesting timing on your post.  I just became aware of this myself a
couple of months ago.

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Burkleo
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Duplexer Info Needed

 

Hello,
I have a Motorola 4 can duplexer out of a UHF MSR2000 series radio
that is the pass/notch style. I am pretty sure Motorola also used
this same duplexer on the MSF5000 series of radios. I can not find any
info on this unit and I am having a problem with the notch on the low
pass side. I can not seem to adjust the notch past 4.5 MHz spacing. It
will adjust down to 3 MHz spacing just fine. The notch on the high
pass side adjusts just fine and will actually go a little beyond the 5
MHz spacing.

The pass adjusts properly on both sections of the duplexer.

It was originally on 464/469 and I retuned it to 440.8/445.8. The
notch problem was there on the original frequency as well.

I am using a IFR A-7550 analyzer/tracking generator for alignment. the
duplexer has very good insertion loss and the notches are -100 db, so
it is meeting specs very well, other than the one notch being off.

Has anyone ran across this before or have any ideas. I though I would
ask the group, before I started drilling out pop rivets to disassemble
the cans from the mounting bracket.

Thanks,
Joe

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ge mastr 2 link question

[Bill Hudson]

 

I'm not so sure you have it right yet..

 

Now you have audio that is not processed, which will bring another wave of
100 helpers.

 

Don't rush it to the hill.  Burn it in - listen to the audio.  You may need
some de-emphasis now.  Then the old .2 cap and 15K argument will start.

 

You are not "golden" yet.  One of my suggestions which I always give:

 

Don't rush it to the hill.  We always find time to fix it, but we never have
time to do it right the first time.

 

Sit on it for a while.  Make it work.  Try to break it.  I have 17 radios,
and have one failure every two years.

 

Key it down - burn it in.

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike DeWaele
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:22 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ge mastr 2 link question

 

 

Thanks to all that replied with suggestions for my linking problem. With all
the answers you gave I was able to resolve the problem. The first mistake
was in one radio I forgot to put a load across the speaker connections as I
wasn't using one. ( the other radio I did. must have been one of those late
night deals). Once I did that the hum went away but the audio was very
disorted from the link to main port. Took the audio off speaker hi and
connected it to vol arm.  Problem solved and now sounds as it should. Now if
it ever stops raining it will be back to the hill to reinstall at the site.

 

Once again it's amazing the wealth of information you can get from the
repeater builder group!

 

Thanks agian,

 

Mike KA2NDW

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders

[Bill Hudson]

Paul Plack - Please site the law that forbids felons from having ham radio
licenses.  You act like you speak with authority - I'd like you to
demonstrate it for me please.
 
Bill - W6CBS

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:31 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders




If they're registered, that means they were convicted at one time, and
probably have some condition of a parole or early release which prohibits
contact with youth. I would ask the local police to see if that is the case.
If it is, simply record the contacts, and ham radio will be the least of
their concerns.
 
If they were convicted of felonies, it's possible the FCC doesn't know, and
would revoke their licenses if notified.
 
73,
Paul, AE4KR
 

- Original Message - 
From: Don   
To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders


Hello I hope Everyone is doing Well , Some things We do not like
talking about Except with our Ham friends Privately and I am sure 
My Topic is one that may effect all of us

But I have a Question and I have got a lot of Opinions , But I Need
to know if Anyone Has the Real answer and can Give ,Me the FCC Rule 
Etc

A group of us are aware of a Couple Registered Sex Offenders who are 
Lic
Ham Radio operators, They use some of the Local Repeaters . And have
Engages in conversations with Lets say Younger Ham radio Operators, 
Boy
Scouts, little league Etc

We would like to Know is there is a FCC Ruling against Them still
Holding and using a Valid Amateur Radio Lic

I know this question will cause a Frenzy of comments, But I am sure
others would like to know to So lets keep the answers and comments
Civil. All of also know with the homeland Security some clubs have 
been
given funds for Equipment and Training,

I would hate for an Incident Come up because of the above Question,
normally in Life changes are not made until something bad happens.

PS I have a Repeater on 440 and 220 do I flip the big switch on them 
I am not judging Innocent or Guilt that will be done in a higher 
place 

73 De Don KA9QJG



 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Voice ID Talent

[Bill Hudson]

 

If you’re real nice, Fred will do it for you ~ :-)

 

Contact him here - http://www.qrz.com/w8hdu

 

Fred is in Lima, Ohio

 

De W6CBS – Bill Hudson - California

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Lane
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Voice ID Talent

 

A few years ago I remember that a professional voice-over talent was doing
on-request voice-over work (maybe was even a ham) with a price break for ham
radio announcements.

 

Anyone know who I’m talking about?  I think he was from the Carolinas, but
I’m not sure.

 

Any leads would be appreciated.

 

73!

 

Rod Lane

Amateur Callsign N1FNE

ARES® Assistant Section Emergency Coordinator

ARRL® Connecticut Section

78 Loper Street

Southington, CT 06489-1812

41°37'38" N 72°52'14" W - Grid Locator: FN31NP50MN

(860) 621-9967 Home

(860) 302-1060 Cell

(860) 766-2281 Work

 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: WANTED: Circulator / Isolator for 146 MHz

[Bill Hudson]

 

I will once again have to agree.

 

Some are tunable, some are not.  Look at the unit.  

 

If they are not tunable, the price is negotiable.  Call the manufacturer,
they're real people.  "We are hams and it needs a tweek".

 

It's not broken, just needs an adjustment.

 

Bill Hudson - W6CBS

 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: WANTED: Circulator / Isolator for 146
MHz

 

At 7/10/2008 19:59, you wrote:

>Be aware that a ferrite isolator or circulator that was originally made for
>operation on, say, 152.250 MHz will probably not be tunable down to the 2m
>band. Even though the catalog description may say 146-174 MHz, in fact the
>typical ferrite isolator or circulator must be remanufactured to operate
>properly more than 3 or 4 MHz away from the original tuning. The "146-174

Seems like this thread came up a couple of years ago. Just like then, I'm 
going to once again disagree with the above statement. Why? Because I 
have several VHF circulators originally tuned to 152 MHz & they tuned down 
to 146 MHz with no problem. It's true that a circulator made for 160+ MHz 
probably won't tune all the way down to 2 meters, but moving only 5 MHz or 
so from the original frequency isn't going to be a problem in most cases.

Bob NO6B

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] High Quality Recording Device

[Bill Hudson]

John

 

I am not familiar with the ICOM F-521 DB9, but hopefully some others have a
suggestion for that.

 

Bill

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John A. Melville
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:21 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] High Quality Recording Device

 

Thanks Bill,

 

My concern though is interfacing with ICOM F-521 DB9 rear connector and
transparently being able to record both TX & RX (network) audio without
disrupting/affecting the front Mic or Speaker that operator uses
consistently. I suspect some type of VOX circuit is required.

 

Your thoughts?

 

Rgds,

 

John 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:58 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] High Quality Recording Device

 


John ~

Several of us on here are Broadcast Engineers. I do this every day, (right
now 9 baseball games over 11 days) recording from my audio mixer board to my
laptop, and editing highlights (home runs and runs scored sound bites) using
an audio editor. We also mix the audio and affects, and send it back to the
home station (i.e. Tigers, Marlins, or Phillies for these 9 games) for the
live (about 3 hour) broadcast of the games. Most of us use Cool Edit, which
is now Adobe Audition.

HOWEVER ~ FREE IS BETTER.

There is a really great program that is FREE - called Audacity. I would not
hesitate to use it in the broadcast world. It does everything I would need
to do a broadcast. Go check it out at http://audacity.
<http://audacity.sourceforge.net/> sourceforge.net/

The audio quality is equal or better than our 20 Hz. to 7.5 KHz audio
broadcasts via ISDN from the ballpark back to the station. You can cut,
paste, change levels, and edit around anything you want, including smooth
out audio levels, very gracefully.

Bill Hudson
W6CBS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John A. Melville
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] High Quality Recording Device

All,

I'm looking for a high quality recording device to record communication
(wave files) from a private broadcast LMR network . Recorder will need
to interface with ICOM F-521 base station possible via a repeater
controller of some sort. Recorder must be PC base for network archiving
purposes.

Any suggestions on controller or recording device?

Rgds,

John

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] High Quality Recording Device

[Bill Hudson]

John ~

Several of us on here are Broadcast Engineers.  I do this every day, (right
now 9 baseball games over 11 days) recording from my audio mixer board to my
laptop, and editing highlights (home runs and runs scored sound bites) using
an audio editor.  We also mix the audio and affects, and send it back to the
home station (i.e. Tigers, Marlins, or Phillies for these 9 games) for the
live (about 3 hour) broadcast of the games.  Most of us use Cool Edit, which
is now Adobe Audition.

HOWEVER ~ FREE IS BETTER.

There is a really great program that is FREE - called Audacity.  I would not
hesitate to use it in the broadcast world.  It does everything I would need
to do a broadcast.  Go check it out at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

The audio quality is equal or better than our 20 Hz. to 7.5 KHz audio
broadcasts via ISDN from the ballpark back to the station.  You can cut,
paste, change levels, and edit around anything you want, including smooth
out audio levels, very gracefully.

Bill Hudson
W6CBS



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John A. Melville
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] High Quality Recording Device

All,

 

I'm looking for a high quality recording device to record communication
(wave files) from a private broadcast LMR network . Recorder will need
to interface with ICOM F-521 base station possible via a repeater
controller of some sort. Recorder must be PC base for network archiving
purposes.

 

Any suggestions on controller or recording device?

 

Rgds,

 

John

 

 

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz

[Bill Hudson]

I guess I'm going to have to post the picture to the group... it's relevant
to good repeater building in rugged ice conditions...

W6CBS - CBS Bill


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 2:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz

Jeff

 

Thank you - you did an excellent job of explaining / writing the answer.

 

Now save it, so you can cut and paste it next month when someone asks
the question again.

 

I am a Spirit Dealer, and at New-Tronics (the parent company for Hustler
Antennas too), we actually make the antennas after you order them, cut
and stamp the frequency on them, and ship them out, including custom to
the ham band frequencies.  They are end fed (what you call series fed),
like the old Stationmasters.  

 

Frankly, I became a Spirit dealer because I could buy them cut for any
frequency including the ham band from 420 - 450 in 10 MHz segments, (the
last antenna manufacturer that I know of that will do that) and the HD
models held up as good as Stationmasters.  I have never had one fail
through a winter.  They radiate as well (all personal perception of
signal strengths, but real piece of mind with almost zero reflected
power in the ham frequencies) so I am a happy camper.  The radial ice on
the fiberglass sometimes falls off if the fiberglass will whip enough,
but the HD and EXTRA HD models just don't bend enough.  

 

I don't know if the picture will come through or not - but it is the
close antenna on 441 MHz, with the 420 MHz Kathreine radomed yagi at the
bottom.

 



 

Note the radial ice on the exposed element antennas.  Imagine what's
happening to a "short via water" with that radial ice all over it.

 

Bill - W6CBS

Well said. Thank you Jeff.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff DePolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jd0%40broadsci.com> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz

>
>> First off you will definitely loose some of the gain from the
original
>> "rated specs". About 1.5 - 2 Dbd. is what I'd expect...Maybe a little
>> worse depending on where the antenna was originally "cut for"... For
>> example, If the antenna was originally built for say a 454.xxx freq
>> (center freq) the loss would be less at 442.xxx than one that had
been
>> built for 467.xxx. The antenna typically has a 20Mhz. bandwidth, +/-
>> 10Mhz each side of center freq so you can see that one cut for the
>> upper 460-ish range would be a little worse than the 450-ish freq.
>
> DB404/408/420 antennas were never "cut to frequency" - they were sold
in
> frequency ranges. For example, a DB408-A is 406-420, DB408-B is
450-470,
> etc. So the closest one to 440 would be a DB4xx-B. If you ordered an
> antenna for 454.575, you would get a -B series antenna. In the wayback
> days, sometimes they would even stamp the label with the exact
frequency 
> you
> ordered, but the antenna wasn't "cut" for that frequency, they just
marked
> it to identify the requested frequency. Nowadays they don't even
bother 
> to
> do that, the sticker will just say "450-470 MHz" and it will come with
a
> return loss sweep showing its performance across the entire band.
>
> The more bays, the worse the VSWR will be (speaking in very general
terms
> here) as you operate these types of antennas out of band. For example,
a
> 408-B will likely have better return loss than a 420-B when used at
440 
> MHz.
>
>> The next thing that would change would be the "downtilt" rating.
>
> No, parallel-fed antennas do NOT suffer uptilt/downtilt as frequency
is
> varied unless the harness was special-ordered for factory downtilt. If
> the
> antenna wasn't ordered with downtilt, all of the elements are fed in 
> phase,
> and they will always be in phase regardless of frequency. The peak
gain
> will be reduced as you operate them away from their design range as
more
> power ends up in the usually-undesired sidelobes, but the main lobe
will
> still be on the horizon.
>
> Series-fed antennas (like Stationmasters) will have the elevation
pattern
> (downtilt/uptilt) affected as frequency changes, because the further
up 
> the
> antenna you go, the more and more the radiating elements end up being
out 
> of
> phase compared to the lower ones, thereby creating the
uptilt/downtilt.
>
> This issue comes up so many times, and is so misunderstood, that there
> should probably be a FAQ about it on the web site...
>
>> > I like the DB's but

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz

[Bill Hudson]

Jeff

 

Thank you - you did an excellent job of explaining / writing the answer.

 

Now save it, so you can cut and paste it next month when someone asks the
question again.

 

I am a Spirit Dealer, and at New-Tronics (the parent company for Hustler
Antennas too), we actually make the antennas after you order them, cut and
stamp the frequency on them, and ship them out, including custom to the ham
band frequencies.  They are end fed (what you call series fed), like the old
Stationmasters.  

 

Frankly, I became a Spirit dealer because I could buy them cut for any
frequency including the ham band from 420 - 450 in 10 MHz segments, (the
last antenna manufacturer that I know of that will do that) and the HD
models held up as good as Stationmasters.  I have never had one fail through
a winter.  They radiate as well (all personal perception of signal
strengths, but real piece of mind with almost zero reflected power in the
ham frequencies) so I am a happy camper.  The radial ice on the fiberglass
sometimes falls off if the fiberglass will whip enough, but the HD and EXTRA
HD models just don't bend enough.  

 

I don't know if the picture will come through or not - but it is the close
antenna on 441 MHz, with the 420 MHz Kathreine radomed yagi at the bottom.

 



 

Note the radial ice on the exposed element antennas.  Imagine what's
happening to a "short via water" with that radial ice all over it.

 

Bill - W6CBS

Well said. Thank you Jeff.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff DePolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz

>
>> First off you will definitely loose some of the gain from the original
>> "rated specs". About 1.5 - 2 Dbd. is what I'd expect...Maybe a little
>> worse depending on where the antenna was originally "cut for"... For
>> example, If the antenna was originally built for say a 454.xxx freq
>> (center freq) the loss would be less at 442.xxx than one that had been
>> built for 467.xxx. The antenna typically has a 20Mhz. bandwidth, +/-
>> 10Mhz each side of center freq so you can see that one cut for the
>> upper 460-ish range would be a little worse than the 450-ish freq.
>
> DB404/408/420 antennas were never "cut to frequency" - they were sold in
> frequency ranges. For example, a DB408-A is 406-420, DB408-B is 450-470,
> etc. So the closest one to 440 would be a DB4xx-B. If you ordered an
> antenna for 454.575, you would get a -B series antenna. In the wayback
> days, sometimes they would even stamp the label with the exact frequency 
> you
> ordered, but the antenna wasn't "cut" for that frequency, they just marked
> it to identify the requested frequency. Nowadays they don't even bother 
> to
> do that, the sticker will just say "450-470 MHz" and it will come with a
> return loss sweep showing its performance across the entire band.
>
> The more bays, the worse the VSWR will be (speaking in very general terms
> here) as you operate these types of antennas out of band. For example, a
> 408-B will likely have better return loss than a 420-B when used at 440 
> MHz.
>
>> The next thing that would change would be the "downtilt" rating.
>
> No, parallel-fed antennas do NOT suffer uptilt/downtilt as frequency is
> varied unless the harness was special-ordered for factory downtilt. If 
> the
> antenna wasn't ordered with downtilt, all of the elements are fed in 
> phase,
> and they will always be in phase regardless of frequency. The peak gain
> will be reduced as you operate them away from their design range as more
> power ends up in the usually-undesired sidelobes, but the main lobe will
> still be on the horizon.
>
> Series-fed antennas (like Stationmasters) will have the elevation pattern
> (downtilt/uptilt) affected as frequency changes, because the further up 
> the
> antenna you go, the more and more the radiating elements end up being out 
> of
> phase compared to the lower ones, thereby creating the uptilt/downtilt.
>
> This issue comes up so many times, and is so misunderstood, that there
> should probably be a FAQ about it on the web site...
>
>> > I like the DB's but unsure how bad the 450mhz matches when trying to
>> > use it down at 440.000mhz.
>
> I have 404's, 408's, 411's, 413's, and 420's in stock, all in the B 
> version,
> a few A version, and a few "S-440-450" ham-band versions which they don't
> make any more. I can sweep one if you want (please don't make me drag all
> of them out of the warehouse to test). Email direct if you're interested.
>
> --- Jeff WN3A
>
> 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Questions on UHF Mitreks

[Bill Hudson]

 

Transmitter will go all the way to 420 MHz.

 

Receiver - order high side injection on the crystals.  The "xxxDK" models
will make it down to 420, and the "xxxAK" will make it to your 438 MHz.
frequency just fine.

 

The trick:  High Side Injection on the crystals.

 

A multimeter / VOM will work just fine if you get the probe in the right
spot on the metering socket.

 

W6CBS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cort Buffington
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:30 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Questions on UHF Mitreks

 

I spent years with just a 50uA panel meter with lead wires and pins on the
end -- sticking the pins in the right socket positions to take the readings.
Not fun, but when I was broke in and just out of college it worked a lot
better than spending money on a test set.

 

I never met a Mitrek receiver that didn't reasonably well as low as the
helical resonators would tune. They'd lose a little sensitivity, but if the
helicals didn't bottom out, they worked. That was my limiting factor.
Transmitters seemed to always work, though the PA produced more heat as they
got farther away from their comfort zone.

 

On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:47 PM, emt747 wrote:





Hello all,

4 questions:

1- Has anybody had any luck tuning the TX down to 438.XXX?

2- What kind of RX sens. is expected on 448.XXX? I am getting around .50uV

2- Does anybody have any tips on tuning the Mitrek without the test set?

3- Does anybody have a test set for sale?

I am working with T34JJA3900DK,T34JJA3900DL,T34JJA3900AK

Any help or ideas would be great.

Thanks,

Brent

 

--

Cort Buffington

H: +1-785-838-3034

M: +1-785-865-7206

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] HF ALE LQA Values

[Bill Hudson]

 

Just a little help.

 

If you post a link, and it might wrap around, use a " before and after" the
link, and it will work if the link wraps around to the next line.

 

So. the last link (below) would work if you did this
http://hflink.com/standards/ALE_standard_188_141B.pdf

 

Bill Hudson - W6CBS

San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:26 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HF ALE LQA Values

 

Although I am hesitant to recommend to anyone that they visit Bonnie's
website because of the vast quantity of misinformation there, the technical
specifications for ALE are contained in a Department of Defense document
(MIL STD-188-141B) at http://hflink.com/standards/ALE_standard_188-141B.pdf 

This PDF document should contain the information you need.

73,

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413

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>From: Kent Chong mailto:kentchongkm%40yahoo.com.sg>
yahoo.com.sg>
>Sent: Feb 27, 2008 2:56 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HF ALE LQA Values
>
>Good day.
>
>Does anybody know about the relationship between the HF ALE LQA value and
received signal strength? We could extract the LQA values from the HF radio,
but we do not know how to convert it back to the received signal strength. 
>
>Appreciate your advices.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Chong Kwan Meng

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Links RLC-4 and Echolink

[Bill Hudson]

Oooops

 

I messed up his call with another friend!

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Links RLC-4 and Echolink

 

Go to < www.irlpcables. <http://www.irlpcables.com/> com>.

Marshal is a good guy - I've known him for several years.
You will be happy with his product.

And his callsign is KE6PCV.

Mike WA6ILQ


At 04:49 PM 02/07/08, you wrote:

Do you have a link or contact information?
 
 
Keith McQueen
801-224-9460
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:32 PM

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Links RLC-4 and Echolink

An even EASIER way is to buy a very inexpensive "made for the application"
adapter cable from Marshall KE6SPV, that plugs into your Linkcomm RLC4 and
the other end plugs into your sound card and IRLP interface card, and you
are done!

Professionally made, guaranteed, work good, and last a long time.  

I think that is the answer you were looking for.. - de W6CBS - Bill - San
Francisco Bay Area


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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Links RLC-4 and Echolink

The easy way is to use an embeded node that David VE7LTD offers.

Mike

-- Original message -- 

From: "mickupi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Has anyone connected an interface to a RLC-4 controller to put your

repeater on Echolink? If so, what interface did you use?

Thanks, Mick

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Links RLC-4 and Echolink

[Bill Hudson]

An even EASIER way is to buy a very inexpensive "made for the application"
adapter cable from Marshall KE6SPV, that plugs into your Linkcomm RLC4 and
the other end plugs into your sound card and IRLP interface card, and you
are done!

 

Professionally made, guaranteed, work good, and last a long time.  

 

I think that is the answer you were looking for.. - de W6CBS - Bill - San
Francisco Bay Area

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Links RLC-4 and Echolink

 

The easy way is to use an embeded node that David VE7LTD offers.

 

Mike

 

-- Original message -- 
From: "mickupi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Has anyone connected an interface to a RLC-4 controller to put your
repeater on Echolink? If so, what interface did you use?
Thanks, Mick

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Phelps Dodge Duplexer

[Bill Hudson]

This is my fault.  I promised I would scan the documents and I have not done
it.  It is on my agenda, an I promise I will do it tomorrow morning before
noon - California time.

 

I'm a bad bad boy!  

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Phelps Dodge Duplexer

 

Wondering if any one every found a manual for this deplexer?? Please 
let me know, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Thanks
Brad
N3NRN

--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
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>
> I'm looking for a manual for a Phelps Dodge 440 Duplexer Cat# 522-
509. , 
> Does any one have a electronic copy they can email me??? Please let 
me 
> know
> 
> Thanks
> Brad
> N3NRN
>

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Phelps Dodge Duplexer

[Bill Hudson]

 

I will try and remember to SCAN in the information tomorrow.  I thought I
had it archived somewhere.

It's a common request - documentation seems to be rare on this duplexer.

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

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I'm looking for a manual for a Phelps Dodge 440 Duplexer Cat# 522-509. 
Does any one have a electronic copy they can email me??? Please let me 
know

Thanks
Brad
N3NRN

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Patch

[Bill Hudson]

 

Hi Mike

 

As a matter of fact, I have an RLC-4 in my shop that has an autopatch card
in it - and it's not being used, or doesn't have a plan for its future.

 

What is the autopatch card worth?  It's been used once to see if it worked,
but then we moved the site and there was no telephone line access.  

 

We need to come up with a price, and I'll ship it to you.

 

Bill

W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:05 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Patch

 

Does anybody have a phone patch card they want to part with for the RLC-4
controller. Please contact me off the list.

 

Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ)

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

[Bill Hudson]

One of my standard lines:

Standards are good, because there are so many to choose from.

Bill - W6CBS

 

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

 


On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:30 PM, MCH wrote:

> Only if you're using a rig with a skewed S-meter (and today many are
> made that way). There are standards for proper S-meter calibration.

There's even more than one standard!

Standards, you gotta love 'em. Everyone should have one. ;-)

--
Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

[Bill Hudson]

You're right Nate.

These people will only notice 3 dB in their dreams.

We could change power on their repeater day to day and they'd never know the
difference.

Bill - W6CBS

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

 


On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:53 PM, WD7F - John in Tucson wrote:

> And why not? That's six S-units.

Try 1/2 of an S-Unit.

--
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Rohn 25g Tower

[Bill Hudson]

If your life is in perspective, you build the tower first.  Then you attach
the brackets to the tower.

Then you build the house.

Bill - W6CBS

At 06:25 PM 7/29/2007, you wrote:

>On a Rohn 25g Tower that will be put on the Side of the House can 
>anyone Tell Me if the Rohn House Bracket Has to be Mounted First, or 
>can the Tower Be put up First.
>
>
>
>Thanks Don
>
>
>KA9QJG
> 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

[Bill Hudson]

OK John

The remainder are on their way to you

CBS Bill

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

 

I know exactly what they are, they worked in the Motorola Twin-Vee, T-Power,
early Motrac, and very early Motran radios.

My address is:

John Mackey, KS0F
PO Box 1586
Beaverton, Oregon 97075

thanks

-- Original Message --
Received: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:46:52 PM CDT
From: "Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:w6cbs%40pacbell.net> net>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

> 
> Roger ~
> Lots of people think these "banana" reeds are going to fit in their Micors
> and other standard Motorola radios - some have asked directly. 
> These old "banana" reeds only work in Motorola radios constructed in the
> 1950's - or early 60's, that take a reed that is about 4 inches long. They
> may not be what John Mackey and others think they are.
> 
> Your reeds will go out Wednesday. There's still some left - you may get
> them all.
> 
> Should I use the address on QRZ?
> 
> CBS Bill
> 
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lenaw12
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?
> 
> Hi Bill..
> 
> I know John Mackey want's to jump in on your generous offer but I
> could use 2 of the 100.0 cyclexmit and 2 of the 100.0 cycle receive
> reeds as per the first request...and I'll pay postage!
> 
> I don't need the others but I would be the "banana reed keeper" if one was
> needed ;-)
> 
> Thanks for your quick reply!
> 
> Roger
> WA1KAT
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:w6cbs%40pacbell.net> net>
> To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?
> 
> >
> > Like all good "Ex-Mo's" - we all have our box of reeds that sit in a
> drawer
> > or on a shelf over the years, to exchange or help those that have a
> specific
> > need.
> >
> > The "banana" reeds.
> >
> > TU-333 - vibrasponder - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 5 of them. You can have
> > one, some, or all five if you want.
> >
> > TU-217 - vibrasender - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 3 if them. Whatever you
> want
> > - is yours.
> >
> > TU-217 - Vibrasender - I have one each (2B) 118.8, (7Z) 186.2, and (ZB)
> > 97.4. Whatever you want.
> >
> > 11 in all. It costs the same to ship one or all 11. I'll send them to
> you
> > for free. I won't need them again. I'm glad to see them go. Then you
> can
> > be the "reed bank" for banana reeds.
> >
> > I just need a good address and they will ship. I'll even pay the
> postage.
> >
> > Bill Hudson
> > W6CBS
> >
> > 
> > From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lenaw12
> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:31 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?
> >
> > I could sure use a 100.0 "cycle" Vibrasponder and a 151.4
> > "Vibrasender" (TU-217)to finish up a "classic" project I started 30
> > years ago.
> >
> > The box is a L41GGB-3100A but I remember swapping out the transmitter
> > at one time or another...still takes TU-217 Banana style though but i
> > don't know what the receiver reed's real designation is...it just
> > looks the same as a 217.
> >
> > Many thanks to all!
> >
> > Roger
> > WA1KAT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

> - 
> Attachment: W6CBS.vcf
> MIME Type: text/x-vcard
> -

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

[Bill Hudson]

Roger ~
Lots of people think these "banana" reeds are going to fit in their Micors
and other standard Motorola radios - some have asked directly.  
These old "banana" reeds only work in Motorola radios constructed in the
1950's - or early 60's, that take a reed that is about 4 inches long.  They
may not be what John Mackey and others think they are.

Your reeds will go out Wednesday.  There's still some left - you may get
them all.

Should I use the address on QRZ?

CBS Bill


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lenaw12
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

Hi Bill..

I know John Mackey want's to jump in on your generous offer but I
could use 2 of the 100.0 cyclexmit and 2 of the 100.0 cycle receive
reeds as per the first request...and I'll pay postage!

I don't need the others but I would be the "banana reed keeper" if one was
needed ;-)

Thanks for your quick reply!

Roger
WA1KAT
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

>
> Like all good "Ex-Mo's" - we all have our box of reeds that sit in a
drawer
> or on a shelf over the years, to exchange or help those that have a
specific
> need.
>
> The "banana" reeds.
>
> TU-333 - vibrasponder - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 5 of them. You can have
> one, some, or all five if you want.
>
> TU-217 - vibrasender - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 3 if them. Whatever you
want
> - is yours.
>
> TU-217 - Vibrasender - I have one each (2B) 118.8, (7Z) 186.2, and (ZB)
> 97.4. Whatever you want.
>
> 11 in all. It costs the same to ship one or all 11. I'll send them to
you
> for free. I won't need them again. I'm glad to see them go. Then you
can
> be the "reed bank" for banana reeds.
>
> I just need a good address and they will ship. I'll even pay the
postage.
>
> Bill Hudson
> W6CBS
>
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lenaw12
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:31 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?
>
> I could sure use a 100.0 "cycle" Vibrasponder and a 151.4
> "Vibrasender" (TU-217)to finish up a "classic" project I started 30
> years ago.
>
> The box is a L41GGB-3100A but I remember swapping out the transmitter
> at one time or another...still takes TU-217 Banana style though but i
> don't know what the receiver reed's real designation is...it just
> looks the same as a 217.
>
> Many thanks to all!
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

[Bill Hudson]

 

Someone help me with this . would that be a TLN6709?

 

CBS Bill

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

 

I'll take them all!!

I don't suppose you have any of the old reeds for 100 Hz that went in to the
low-band HT-200 do you?

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

> 
> Like all good "Ex-Mo's" - we all have our box of reeds that sit in a
drawer
> or on a shelf over the years, to exchange or help those that have a
specific
> need.
> 
> The "banana" reeds.
> 
> TU-333 - vibrasponder - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 5 of them. You can have
> one, some, or all five if you want.
> 
> TU-217 - vibrasender - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 3 if them. Whatever you
want
> - is yours.
> 
> TU-217 - Vibrasender - I have one each (2B) 118.8, (7Z) 186.2, and (ZB)
> 97.4. Whatever you want.
> 
> 11 in all. It costs the same to ship one or all 11. I'll send them to you
> for free. I won't need them again. I'm glad to see them go. Then you can
> be the "reed bank" for banana reeds.
> 
> I just need a good address and they will ship. I'll even pay the postage.
> 
> Bill Hudson
> W6CBS
> 
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
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> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:31 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?
> 
> I could sure use a 100.0 "cycle" Vibrasponder and a 151.4
> "Vibrasender" (TU-217)to finish up a "classic" project I started 30
> years ago.
> 
> The box is a L41GGB-3100A but I remember swapping out the transmitter
> at one time or another...still takes TU-217 Banana style though but i
> don't know what the receiver reed's real designation is...it just
> looks the same as a 217.
> 
> Many thanks to all!
> 
> Roger
> WA1KAT
> 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

[Bill Hudson]

Like all good "Ex-Mo's" - we all have our box of reeds that sit in a drawer
or on a shelf over the years, to exchange or help those that have a specific
need.

The "banana" reeds.

TU-333 - vibrasponder - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 5 of them.  You can have
one, some, or all five if you want.

TU-217 - vibrasender - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 3 if them.  Whatever you want
- is yours.

TU-217 - Vibrasender - I have one each (2B) 118.8, (7Z) 186.2, and (ZB)
97.4.  Whatever you want.

11 in all.  It costs the same to ship one or all 11.  I'll send them to you
for free.  I won't need them again.  I'm glad to see them go.  Then you can
be the "reed bank" for banana reeds.

I just need a good address and they will ship.  I'll even pay the postage.

Bill Hudson
W6CBS


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lenaw12
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:31 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola "banana reeds" still around?

I could sure use a 100.0 "cycle" Vibrasponder and a 151.4
"Vibrasender" (TU-217)to finish up a "classic" project I started 30
years ago.

The box is a L41GGB-3100A but I remember swapping out the transmitter
at one time or another...still takes TU-217 Banana style though but i
don't know what the receiver reed's real designation is...it just
looks the same as a 217.

Many thanks to all!

Roger
WA1KAT
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

[Bill Hudson]

Oh come on!

 

Do you have something against AT&T.

 

If you do - don't do it!

 

What a stupid question!  Is it going to "sting you?"  Do you think it has
some "high voltage" on it that might "tickle you?"

 

Why would you ask such a stupid question?  A moron is born every day.

 

W6CBS

 

 

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

 

I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.

I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
members of the group.

This is something that has been brought up to me.

If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
former AT&T Tower would you do it, if not why?

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Base/Repeater Question From a Newbie

[Bill Hudson]

Rethink your binaries:

 

0-7 minus 1

 

You get 1 through 7 remote control with 3 binaries to control.

 

We do it on about 6 GM and CDM radios.  

 

CBS Bill

W6CBS

 

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Base/Repeater Question From a
Newbie

 

Yeah, but look at the mapping.
You don't get 16 selections.
If I remember correctly when the high order bit goes on
the radio ignores the other three. So you get 0-7 plus 1.

Mike

At 01:47 PM 05/24/07, you wrote:
>Four bits (pins) are abailable, I think.
>
>Joe M.
>
>Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> >
> > Look for a GM300 as opposed to a Maxtrac. The GMs have
> > a "channel steering" option that can be enabled in the RSS
> > and by grounding selected pins in the 16-pin jack on the
> > back you can binary select 8 or 9 (I think) channels... using
> > three or four bits in a binary pattern.
> >
> > The 7K lets you output a 6-bit binary number to 6 pins on the
> > 7K connector, the manual shows 5 on a TS32, the web page at
> > 
rollers.com/tips/7k_ts64_motorola2.html>
> > shows how I set up a TS64 (uses 6 bits), you could set up a
> > crossband repeater with the PL board in it locked to one tone
> > (or DPL code), and use touchtone commands on the 7K to
> > "steer" the 2m GM300 to the channel you wanted to talk on.
> > Chapter 10 in the 7K manual has all the details on the (PW)03xx
> > command.
> >
> > So take a UHF Maxtrac or GM300 and a high band GM300 and get
> > a few connector parts from DigiKey...
> >
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-DSP404 pictures and specs

[Bill Hudson]

The answer is in the press release:

 

"> Remember to stop by and register for the free giveway of the RLC-DSP404 4
port controller. Shooting for controller shipping by July 1st. Orders placed
at Dayton are eligible for free UPS 3-day shipping/handling and no sales
tax.
>> Remember to stop by and register for the free giveway of the RLC-DSP404 4
port controller. Shooting for controller shipping by July 1st. Orders placed
at Dayton are eligible for free UPS 3-day shipping/handling and no sales
tax.
>"

 

Bill

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:23 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-DSP404 pictures and specs

 

Great news, Allan!! When do you project it unit being available?

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Received: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:09:50 AM CDT
From: Allan Overcast mailto:allanovercast%40yahoo.com>
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-DSP404 pictures and specs

> Information about the new RLC-DSP404 will be released on Monday. For those
going to Dayton stop by our booth and register for the drawing for a free
RLC-DSP404 unit when released. The RLC-DSP404 will sell for $999.95 with
four
ports (includes 1U rack enclosure)and can be expanded to 12 ports in 4 port
increments. All the features of the RLC-3 plus a whole lot more like VoIP,
Remote Management over serial, USB and Ethernet, Has 2 USB ports and one USB
on-the go port, one for computer connection and one for a USB thumb drive. 
The system runs uCLinux, and is easily backed up because the system and
voice
storage memory is via a removable SD-Flash card (up to 4 GB). Radio port
features like one audio input and two audio outputs per port, seperate
RS-232
serial ports per port and complete digital adjustment from DTMF or one of
the
several digital ports (USB, Ethernet and Serial). Standard DB-9 connectors
for the radio port connections. Includes digitally adjustable audio
> delay, PL/DPL decoder/encoder, Squelch control and complete flat audio
supporting Discriminator to Modulator audio. Complete DVR included with
multiple voice libraries, up to 675 words per library (lots of seperate
libraries supported). Both .wav and .mp3 audio playing and .wav recording. 
I/O of 7 analog inputs (12 bit), 8 output lines and 8 contact closure inputs
via a DB-25 connector (same as the RLC-3 I/O). Technically the digital audio
is 24 bit, 48 KHz sample rate. DSP is a 600 MIPS Analog Devices Blackfin. 
Includes 1 Gbyte SD card w/uCLinux OS and voice files. 1U system for 4
ports.
2U for 8 to 12 ports.
> 
> Remember to stop by and register for the free giveway of the RLC-DSP404 4
port controller. Shooting for controller shipping by July 1st. Orders placed
at Dayton are eligible for free UPS 3-day shipping/handling and no sales
tax.
> 
> All for Now!
> 
> Allan Overcast KF7FW
> Link Communications, Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo!
FareChase.

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Spectrum Communications

[Bill Hudson]

 

Did I miss it - or has anybody asked him what band he wants this receiver on
> ?

 

CBS Bill

 

 

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications RUN! Don't WALK!

[Bill Hudson]

Does anyone know about Spectrum Communications?

 

Joel ~

 

RUN - and get your money back quickly.  Do not walk.

 

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Replacement of an older Repeater

[Bill Hudson]

I remember the 7 year support rule too, but I don’t know why…

Bill


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of N9WYS
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Replacement of an older Repeater

I thought manufacturers were required by some obscure law (federal?) to be
able to supply parts for any item marketed for 7 years after it's sale... or
maybe I was dreaming.

???

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025

Back in days of old... when knights were bold... and rubbers ... 
(opps that's another story...)

Back in the 60's, 70's 80's Motorola reportedly contracted to 
continue making replacement parts available for 5 or 8 years min. 
I clearly remember being able to buy Motrac parts well into the 
late 70's and early 80's. 

That type of business model is long gone. Mfgrs are often hard 
pressed to get a device from concept to market before the part 
sources dry up/out. 

It's just the way of the world... 

cheers, 
s. 

> "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The MSF5000 supply is similarly power-hungry. Most
> ferro-resonant supplies are. They give up efficiency
> for bullet-proof operation. Other parts may die, but
> when's the last time you had to fix a broken Moto
> power supply of that vintage?
> 
> Of course, Motorola isn't helping much by making spare
> parts for so much of this great old equipment NLA.
> 
> Bob M.
> == 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a

[Bill Hudson]

 

Let me help you a little with this 38 vs. 38A thing.

 

I would only want to use it if it was the only thing you had, and you
couldn't afford something else.

 

IF, you were to have your choice, the 38A made several improvements.  Both
ID.  Both have "courtesy beeps."

 

If you were talking to someone with a 38 on the repeater, and the other
station answers (keys up) during the hang delay, the repeater passes the
audio from the responding station, but drops out after the normal hang
delay, and keys up again, dropping critical words and carrier in the
process.  The 38A solved this, but still is junk.  There are different
levels of junk for amateur applications.  This could serve a purpose for
commercial plain vanilla applications.  Most of those applications have
disappeared to more sophisticated arrangements.

 

It's not something that I would ever want to install.  The system I listen
to complains about it as often as they can, to the guy that "gifted" it to
them.  Consider your alternatives and remember my constant reminder:  "When
you buy quality, it only hurts once."

 

W6CBS

Bill Hudson

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 5:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a

 

I have both of them.  The 38 is the older ver of the two.  The 38A will do
more it the way of PL tones and the lasted I looked they both do CWID.  The
other thing the 38A board is a redesigned board.

 

PS  I have both here and would part with some if need be.  

John

 

 

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From: Nate Duehr <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a

 

On 4/12/07, mthoeft <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> net>
wrote:
> Hello and thanks for having me on the group
> Does anyone know/is there any difference between a Zetron Model 38 and
> Model 38A, aside from the obvious descriptor change?
> I can only find a manual on the Zetron website for the 38A and want to
> know for sure before buying a 38 that it is the same/very similar animal
> Thanks in advance

Never owned either one, but was doing some similar research recently.

Going solely off documentation I found, and could have read wrong...

I don't think the 38 can do CW ID's. The 38A does.

Nate WY0X

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] HF Remote Base?

[Bill Hudson]

 

HF Remote Controllers:

 

Well - I have a few years experience with that!

 

Linkcomm controllers offer the most experience with this feature.  They
offer a long history of diversified radios to control, and a long history of
controller design.  Others will disagree, but there are a LOT of Linkcomm
controllers doing their job around the world.

 

A ton of basic frequency agile commands, including fast, medium, and slow
scan up and down the band are available.  PL frequency, encode, decode, and
more are available because the TS2000 runs UHF, VHF, and 6 through 160.

 

I have an RLC Club on a TS-2000, and added more features so I can just about
do anything from my portable that I can from the front panel.

 

I programmed the Linkcomm controller with the additional commands listed in
the link below.  Yes, you read the commands right.  I actually turn on the
power on the TS-2000 radio with a command.  If I don't command or use the
radio for one hour, the radio power turns itself off.  My TS2000 does not
stay powered on 7 x 24.

 

Linkcomm provides a complete Wiki support page with users able to add "gee
whiz" TS2000 control features.  It can be viewed here:

 

http://link-comm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Remote_Base_Kenwood_TS-2000

 

That's all the help I can give.  Most folks do not believe I'm talking on a
UHF handie talkie - the audio is that good.  Tell me if you want a demo.
I'll fire it up and talk to you anywhere you want.  

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


>
>I only have hands-on experience with the Link-comm's controlling a IC-706 
>and TS-570.
>
>-Sean
>
>
>On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:10 PM, drwoolweaver wrote:
>
>>Any suggestions for a modern repeater controller that will also
>>operate a frequency agile HF remote base? Thanks de David



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Station Power Supply Problem?

[Bill Hudson]

 

Master II Base Station / Repeater Power Supplies come in four flavors.

 

The most important information is:  Two are fused at 15 Amps, and two are
fused at 35 amps.  

 

If you have the high current model, it has a BUSS NON-35 AMP one-time FUSE
(Class K5), and is 3 inches long.

 

The 15 Amp fuse is a NON-15 (obviously), and is considerably smaller in
size, and is 2 inches in length.

 

It will be obvious when you look at the fuse holder / fuse.  I could look up
some model numbers, but this information will tell you if you have the
smaller power supply in a BIG BOY application.

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Station Power Supply Problem?

 

> I'm setting up a Mastr II VHF station for a 2 meter repeater 
> and when I 
> got to the power amp to check everything I can only get about 
> 86 watts . . . 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall

[Bill Hudson]

 

Here it is

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iac1xt0dMx4
 &NR

 

CBS Bill

W6CBS

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:43 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall

 

Where?  The link in the first message of the thread takes you to an FTP
player site.  Is there a link on that page that I don't see?

de WD7F

John in Tucson

 

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From: Mike   Perryman 

To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:01 PM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall

 

I found it...  the guy was on the top-plate of a roughly 500 foot
self-supporter...  he tried to rip the lightning rod off and lost his
footing...   serves him right.  No sleep lost here...

 73 
Mike Perryman 
www.k5jmp.us 

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From: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck
Kelsey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall

What site are you talking about?

 

Chuck

WB2EDV

 

 

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Take a look at same site for non-entertainment video clip of the guy falling
off the top of a huge tower to his death. That should be a refresher for
some people to be extra careful when climbing towers. 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Glenayre 900 MHz T8500

[Bill Hudson]

 

The "F" connector is a satellite dish input for satellite control and data
input for the synchronization, delay, and control of the transmitter.

 

CBS Bill

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Glenayre 900 MHz T8500

 

Well, gang, I brought this puppy home today! Even has a "receiver" in the
cabinet, but I'm not sure just WHAT kind of receiver it is.  

 

There are **two** antenna connections on left side of the cabinet:

One is a 50-ohm "N" connection which I assume is the transmitter output.

The other appears to be a 75 ohm "F" connection.  Ideas???

 

I have photos available upon request.  This thing appears to be complete.  

 

I'm meeting another ham tomorrow who has a manual set for it - less the
controller manual.  So I'll be looking for one of them..  

 

Here's the "pedigree" on the station:

TX Model:  GL-T8500

RX Model:  GL-S2164

Control Package:  GL-C2000S

Current TX freq:  931.1875

PA Serial #: 9521065 E 10323

Power Out: 100 to 250 Watts

 

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[Repeater-Builder] audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

[Bill Hudson]

I can see all the Engineering students and techies getting out the books and
researching on the net now... probably boring for some, but the techies in
the hobby / business will walk away with a better understanding of audio.
Kevin Custer wrote:

I think this discussion will end up being very interesting, but I think we
need to quantify all of the parameters so we are playing with apples and
apples.

Discriminator audio is not always high impedance; many radios. . . 
I think he was asking because he got out the formulas which involve
impedance in calculations.  The prize / discussion is to prove that the
resistor or even two series resistors, wherever you place them in series
with the audio, change the output de-emphasis.  
Pick whatever impedance you want in and out, but the arrangement of the
components is the discussion.  Ken, will get $100 if he and his supporters
can prove it makes a difference.  If he can, I will send the "C note", and
go build it myself in the shop.  When I went to school, it's a time constant
formula, with two variable values.  The values are given, so it's now a
discussion of circuit design.  
So, how about we use a source impedance of 100 ohms, and an audio range of
50 to 5000 cycles.. . . 
That sounds good to me.  As you said, make it simple.  Pick any impedance in
or out, and that is a constant.  The value of "C" is defined, and the value
of the series resistance is defined.  If Ken or his helpers can show me that
arranging the series resistance of the circuit, either before, after, or (I
added this opportunity) even split into two resistors, makes a difference in
the EQ output like they say, Ken get's a crisp $100 bill.
The slope of the De/Pre-Emphasis isn't what is important here, as that won't
change in a 2 component circuit, what is important is where the circuit
starts (or finishes) working; which will affect the equalization of the
transferred audio. . . 
You're going to have to help me with this one Kevin.  The "slope of the
De/Pre-Emphasis" is "the equalization of the transferred audio."  I missed
something.   
We'll wait for the results after the soldering iron heats up.   If I'm
wrong, boy am I going to have to apologize for using all this bandwidth!  
Bill Hudson, W6CBS


Kevin Custer

Bill Hudson wrote: 
 
Discriminator is always high impedance so high impedance into the circuit.
 
De-emphasized audio is typically used for microphone input, which would
typically be low, but you can hang whatever impedance you want because in
this case, "it's only audio".  The output impedance isn't going to matter
much for audio EQ, except really low impedance is going to "horse down" the
level into the transmitter (circuit output).
 
In this case, you can just about choose your "output" or "transmitter input"
impedance.  EQ wont change enough, to make a difference.
 
 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater
audio-circuit correct??
 
Bill,
 
What source and load impedance are you looking at for this test?
 
 
Doug
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From: Bill Hudson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:12 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater
audio-circuit correct??
 
 
To:Ken 
 
Cc:   Laryn
 
Tell you what Ken.  I'll make you a deal.  
 
You have the facilities to do it, and you have the test equipment to prove
it.  I'll let you do the work.
 
The time constant equation is the same, if you put the capacitor in front or
behind the resistor.  In fact:  You could put a 7.5K in front of, and a 7.5K
behind the capacitor to ground, and you should get the same time constant,
roll off, de-emphasis.
 
I have never tried it.  Here's the deal.  You build it and test it, and if
you can make the de-emphasis different by placing the resistor before,
after, or splitting them with 7.5K resistors on both sides, I will send you
a crisp one hundred dollar bill ($100) in the mail.
 
I've never done it - but where I went to school, it shouldn't matter.
 
Let us all know what you find.  If you find a difference, I'll send you
$100.  Of course, I'm going to be out $100, but then I'm going to go build
it myself and make sure you're not fibbing!  :-)
 
Bill Hudson
W6CBS
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

[Bill Hudson]

 

Discriminator is always high impedance so high impedance into the circuit.

 

De-emphasized audio is typically used for microphone input, which would
typically be low, but you can hang whatever impedance you want because in
this case, "it's only audio".  The output impedance isn't going to matter
much for audio EQ, except really low impedance is going to "horse down" the
level into the transmitter (circuit output).

 

In this case, you can just about choose your "output" or "transmitter input"
impedance.  EQ wont change enough, to make a difference.

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater
audio-circuit correct??

 

Bill,

 

What source and load impedance are you looking at for this test?

 

 

Doug

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater
audio-circuit correct??

 

 

To:Ken 

 

Cc:   Laryn

 

Tell you what Ken.  I'll make you a deal.  

 

You have the facilities to do it, and you have the test equipment to prove
it.  I'll let you do the work.

 

The time constant equation is the same, if you put the capacitor in front or
behind the resistor.  In fact:  You could put a 7.5K in front of, and a 7.5K
behind the capacitor to ground, and you should get the same time constant,
roll off, de-emphasis.

 

I have never tried it.  Here's the deal.  You build it and test it, and if
you can make the de-emphasis different by placing the resistor before,
after, or splitting them with 7.5K resistors on both sides, I will send you
a crisp one hundred dollar bill ($100) in the mail.

 

I've never done it - but where I went to school, it shouldn't matter.

 

Let us all know what you find.  If you find a difference, I'll send you
$100.  Of course, I'm going to be out $100, but then I'm going to go build
it myself and make sure you're not fibbing!  :-)

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 


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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater
audio-circuit correct??

 

At 04:25 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote:

>Hmmm... I always thought that the resistor was on the input side.
>Y'all sure this circuit is correct as it is above?

<---You're right. The cap should be on the load side of the resistor, 
not the disc. side. As for the question about PREemphasis, the cap is 
in series with the resistor to ground on the load (transmitter) side 
of the cap.

Ken
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President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

[Bill Hudson]

 

To:Ken 

 

Cc:   Laryn

 

Tell you what Ken.  I'll make you a deal.  

 

You have the facilities to do it, and you have the test equipment to prove
it.  I'll let you do the work.

 

The time constant equation is the same, if you put the capacitor in front or
behind the resistor.  In fact:  You could put a 7.5K in front of, and a 7.5K
behind the capacitor to ground, and you should get the same time constant,
roll off, de-emphasis.

 

I have never tried it.  Here's the deal.  You build it and test it, and if
you can make the de-emphasis different by placing the resistor before,
after, or splitting them with 7.5K resistors on both sides, I will send you
a crisp one hundred dollar bill ($100) in the mail.

 

I've never done it - but where I went to school, it shouldn't matter.

 

Let us all know what you find.  If you find a difference, I'll send you
$100.  Of course, I'm going to be out $100, but then I'm going to go build
it myself and make sure you're not fibbing!  :-)

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater
audio-circuit correct??

 

At 04:25 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote:

>Hmmm... I always thought that the resistor was on the input side.
>Y'all sure this circuit is correct as it is above?

<---You're right. The cap should be on the load side of the resistor, 
not the disc. side. As for the question about PREemphasis, the cap is 
in series with the resistor to ground on the load (transmitter) side 
of the cap.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
http://www.ah6le. <http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html>
net/arcom/index.html
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp. <http://www.irlp.net> net

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

[Bill Hudson]

 

Good description Eric

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

 

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

 

Tom,

Audio that is too bassy has very often been de-emphasized twice, or at
least, incorrectly.

If you can't switch to "flat" audio somewhere in the chain, then you can
possibly rectify the problem by using a coupling capacitor that is sized to
counteract the de-emphasis. That is, exchange the positions of the resistor
and capacitor in the simple circuit that was previously posted.

The de-emphasis circuit that was posted uses a series resistor and a shunt
capacitor. As the frequency of the signal increases, the capacitive
reactance decreases and causes more and more of the signal to be attenuated.
When the components are properly selected, the rolling off of the frequency
response exactly cancels the "rolling up" of the earlier pre-emphasis
circuit. The catch is that every pre-emphasis circuit must eventually be
followed by a complementary de-emphasis circuit. If one pre-emphasis
circuit is followed by two de-emphasis circuits, the audio sounds bassy.

A pre-emphasis, or, in this case, an "un-de-emphasis" circuit, uses a series
capacitor and a shunt resistor. In contrast to the de-emphasis circuit, the
pre-emphasis circuit allows higher frequencies to pass more easily, while
the lower frequencies are attenuated. When the components are properly
selected, the bass frequencies are reduced and the treble frequencies are
enhanced.

The above mini-tutorial is "Audio Equalization 101" and simply skims the
basics. Ideally, the end-to-end audio processing in any repeater or link
chain should result in an output that duplicates the frequency response and
deviation of the input. There are good reasons for linking flat audio, but
what goes in from a user should match what comes out. YMMV!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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-Ok, just out of mere curiosity, what about for audio that is too bassy?

Happy New Year
NB2A
Tom

 

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

[Bill Hudson]

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:33 PM
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

 

-Ok just out of mere curiosity what about for audio that is too 
bassy?

Happy New Year
NB2A
Tom



Tom ~

 

To change the roll off with less bass, increase the size of the series
resistor for more highs, although you will increase the loss through the
circuit.  If you can handle the loss (peak to peak audio goes down when the
series resistor gets bigger), I like that approach.

 

You can change the .2 uf capacitor to a .1 (point 1), but for me, the roll
off isn't as steep, and the overall lows are missing.  It sounds kind of
"tinny".  It doesn't have the full audio low end spectrum.  Running the
audio through a service monitor shows a "weak" low end frequency response.

 

I've run audio curves on the service monitor through receivers, taking audio
from the discriminator/detector, time after time.  For a simple two
component fix, which is all that was discussed here, this provides the best
time constant / roll off / de-emphasis for me.  I use it on all GE (MVP,
Exec II, MII) and Motorola (Micor, Mitrek), Vertex (5000, 7000, 9000), and
it is always the same.  I can talk into two different receivers on the
mountain top, one GE and one Motorola, both with the same capacitor and
resistor (.2 to ground, followed by a 15K resistor), and you won't be able
to tell a difference.  They both sound the same.  Both use a Micor squelch
gate, so you can't tell listening to the squelch tail either.

 

There will be many other comments about Time Constants, better values, and
op amps with feed back settings, but this is the best set of components that
I have found over years of linking multiple repeaters together, trying to
maintain the integrity of the audio from site to site, without getting crazy
about 18 repeaters in a row that have to have flat audio. 

 

Flat Audio is a whole different discussion.  This was just about de-emphasis
and two components, and how I chose to de-emphasize radios, of all
manufacturers.  Right or wrong, I make it my standard.  

 

The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from!

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 
 

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

[Bill Hudson]

 

 

 

Disc. 15K

0-/\/\/\/\/\0 output

|

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  .2 uf. (point 2 microfarads)



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0 ground

 

 

 

The .2 uf capacitor takes the "highs" to ground.  

 

Some people like to use a 6.8K series resistor, but a 15K provides perfect
roll off on highs.  Play with this value if you want to "tweak it". 

 

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS