Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one with coordnator issues. Here, My 444.275machine has been on the air for years. The good ol boy coffiee club - the Wisconsin Association of Repeaters - WAR - www.wi-repeaters.org , they send renewal requests on a yearly basis - not e-mails. Everytime I have received a renewal form, I have sent the filled out renewal form to them. Then I received a letter that they were going to de-coordinate my frequency pair because I have not renewed in over 2 years. WHAT? So I sent the renewal forms again. Only to find out months later that I was decoordinated anyways. No letter from WAR stating the fact that de-coordination actually took place, they just deleted the file. Currently, WAR is ignoring my coordination request for a VHF pair, update info on my UHF machine, as well as ignoring the issue of how and why my UHF pair was de-coordinated. WAR, specifically the Chairman, just sent back the coordination forms along with a cover their a*s letter which stated that no renewals were received. On top of that they are saying that they are not going to coordinated anything that I put on the air unless I jump through some hoops for them. Their reasoning; Because I did not put a machine on the air when I asked for a 6 meter pair ( It turned out to be an interferance nightmare and quite a costly experimental venture at that time ). Also because I was not open and free with information about my system. Hunh what? If I was not open with information, I would not have sent in a system update application ( Not knowing that WAR already deleted my coordination ). The Chairman also stated that they could not update my coordination because it has been de-coordinated and deleted, There is nothing to update. I sent them a rebuttal letter trying to inform them that I did, in fact, send in the renewals, that I let the 6 meter construction time frame expire so the freq pair could be re-assigned - no sence keeping a paper repeater... etc etc. That was letter was sent via certified mail coming up on a month ago. Have I heard anything from the good ol boys? Nope. I have come to this conclusion. WAR only coordinates their friends or to those who donate money to WAR for newsletters ( which, by the way are sent wether you subscribe/donate to WAR or not ). Who says you cannot make money with Amateur Radio. This would explain the inflexability of trying to coordinate a very limited coverage 900Mhz repeater that would have been the second 900 repeater in the whole state of Wisconsin. It would have been more like an experimental system to see if it work or not. The system was already setup for 902-927 where the WAR bandplan is 906-918. BAM, they gave me the impression that they were saving the 900mhz specturm for something, their own agenda... like keeping it empty fo the FCC can 'take it away'. I can understand such a stiffness if the band was popular... but with only one other repeater in WI at that time... jeeze. They made me feel like I was trying to coordinated a super-wideband repeater that would use 5mhz of specturm... the 'are you freaking crazy' .. mentality. Coordination needs some oversite, some seperate organization that watches what the coordination entities are doing. Since coordination is volentary, it is not a requirement, the FCC will not do anything. Coordinatation entities know this and can bend things around, make things up, then say, you didn't do this or that and you lost your coordination all relying on 'ther word' no proof, no one watching them. Its starting to seem like coordination entities are taking it way too extreme, playing favortism, playing games with repeater owners trying to free up frequencies for their friends... etc etc. By the way, 444.275 is on the air, and will remain that way. Let them coordinate another repeater on that frequency pair, I'll just turn up the wattage and wait for the citations... then haul WAR into the court/fcc procedings to answer for their game playing... and make them use up the money they have stashed aside by making them use it up on attorney fees. Good luck with your plight with your coordinator they probably have a friend who wants a VHF repeater and are using an excuse to give their friend a freq pair. Dave Schmidt N9NLU ( yes, I'm not afraid to shout the truth and sign my name - not like others who hide behind excuses and lack of communications... heck, ignores communications - like the Wisconsin Assocation of Repeaters ) flame suit on On 1/19/07, Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coordinators are a savvy lot (well, some of them are), and they know that sometimes a fellow will repeatedly claim that his gear is on the air when in fact it is not. So, they want to be able to kerchunk the thing for themselves. Even if it's closed, the PL tone should be in their files and they should be able to key it up. If they can't, they're going to doubt your veracity. Now, maybe you just had the box functioned off when
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
After the excuses from these people, of course certified mail. Everything now is sent to WAR via certified mail. Since they want to play games, I'm going to make sure there is a paper trail, not just their excuses and stories. Yeah, if it goes to court, I'll probably loose the coordination battle. I'll make it known though that WAR is crooked. Thats basically the point. Bring to light the bent things that WAR does. Maybe others have been screwed over as well and are just waiting for someone to start things cookin. Thank you for the nfcc link, I didn't know there was such a thing, however the site looks a bit outdated and not maintained well ... a bit unprofessional as well looks like it was created on Anglefire. How effective is the NFCC... its just not another coffee and doughnuts club is it? Taking the issues to the WAR meetings. Good one. They keep moving the meetings all over the state. Although it is typically listed on their site, it appears that their site has not been updated. It still says next meeting Nov 11, 2006. They probably will not change the web site till a couple days before the meeting to try and keep things quiet when they are eating their doughnuts. In this case, since the last meeting was in SE WI, the next one will probably will be 300 miles away in NW Wisconsin. They never hold it in one spot. Regards Dave Schmidt N9NLU On 1/19/07, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you send your reply back certified? After their claim of not receiving it, I sure would have. But, things DO get lost in the mail. I've seen cases where someone says This is my forth reply in two yeas, yet the complaint was the first letter received from him in over 10 years. (not that much gets lost in the mail). Then he says to change his callsign to W3ABC (which was changed years ago) when the copy of his coordination paperwork *he enclosed* shows his callsign as W3ABC. Talk about your 'huh?' issues. As for the oversight panel: www.arrl.org/nfcc Are you sure you want to drag another person into your court fight? (that would be the person who receives coordination on 'your pair') You ARE aware that if someone else gets coordination there and the FCC gets involved, you *will lose*, right? You are better off taking the issue to their meetings to get it resolved. If you feel they have violated their published policies, bring that up and demand an explanation. Joe M. Dave Schmidt wrote: Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one with coordnator issues. Here, My 444.275 machine has been on the air for years. The good ol boy coffiee club - the Wisconsin Association of Repeaters - WAR - www.wi-repeaters.org , they send renewal requests on a yearly basis - not e-mails. Everytime I have received a renewal form, I have sent the filled out renewal form to them. Then I received a letter that they were going to de-coordinate my frequency pair because I have not renewed in over 2 years. WHAT? So I sent the renewal forms again. Only to find out months later that I was decoordinated anyways. No letter from WAR stating the fact that de-coordination actually took place, they just deleted the file. Currently, WAR is ignoring my coordination request for a VHF pair, update info on my UHF machine, as well as ignoring the issue of how and why my UHF pair was de-coordinated. WAR, specifically the Chairman, just sent back the coordination forms along with a cover their a*s letter which stated that no renewals were received. On top of that they are saying that they are not going to coordinated anything that I put on the air unless I jump through some hoops for them. Their reasoning; Because I did not put a machine on the air when I asked for a 6 meter pair ( It turned out to be an interferance nightmare and quite a costly experimental venture at that time ). Also because I was not open and free with information about my system. Hunh what? If I was not open with information, I would not have sent in a system update application ( Not knowing that WAR already deleted my coordination ). The Chairman also stated that they could not update my coordination because it has been de-coordinated and deleted, There is nothing to update. I sent them a rebuttal letter trying to inform them that I did, in fact, send in the renewals, that I let the 6 meter construction time frame expire so the freq pair could be re-assigned - no sence keeping a paper repeater... etc etc. That was letter was sent via certified mail coming up on a month ago. Have I heard anything from the good ol boys? Nope. I have come to this conclusion. WAR only coordinates their friends or to those who donate money to WAR for newsletters ( which, by the way are sent wether you subscribe/donate to WAR or not ). Who says you cannot make money with Amateur Radio. This would explain the inflexability of trying to coordinate a very limited coverage 900Mhz repeater that would have been the second 900 repeater in the whole state
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery backup
I have to agree with Dave. Using the proper charger or power supply for keeping the batts up. I have my batteries housed in a stainless steel enclosure that is anchored into concrete outside my ham shack. I learned the hard way about using the proper charger... I just tapped into my repeaters 25amp power supply to keep the batteries charged till I could make a charging circuit ... a, big mistake. That charging circuit - oops, I forgot... about a month of operation, I was working around the tower and smelled what smelled like battery acid. Sure enough, I cooked both flooded lead acid batteries and they were fuming acid vapor. Lucky the box is a comercial built ss box. Now, after that incident, I have been using a marine (boat) smart charger which automatically determines wether to charge or float. Since battery chargers are, ummm, quite noisy and not all that nice on batteries due to most of them only using a half wave recifier ( AC is not nice on batteries ). I added a 25A bridge rectifier and added extra filtering which is just a big Motorola mobile power filter block from the Micor dayz. It is also isolated using some BIG diodes - like Dave's, the threaded case type diodes which is bolted to a heatsink. The system is running well in this configuration. If using flooded type batteries, do a monthly check on acid levels ! I recomend AGM batteries ( Absorbed Glass Mat ) or if that is a little pricy, get marine deep cycle batteries - do not use automotive batteries unless you just absolutely half to. Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org On 1/9/07, ve7ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had good luck using a pair of diodes to isolate a power supply from a charging circuit. I essentially have a Statpower 10amp battery charger (specifically designed for the flooded cells I am using). The batteries float on the charger voltage when the AC power is available. The battery positive lead then feeds through a diode and joins the positive power bus of my repeaters. Using a proper charger is the most important part so you dont boil off the electrolyte in your batteries. The positive power bus is fed from a large GE power supply. The positive lead from the power supply feeds through a diode to feed the power bus. The idea of using a diodes is to keep the higher voltage of the power supply from passing current into the batteries when AC is available, and vice versa when AC is off. However, if you are using a high power PA or your repeater draws more than about 20 AMPs on TX, you have to be careful of your choices of diode. I use large feedthrough diodes, mounted on large heatsinks, but on lower current draw you could get away with using a smaller bridge rectifier mounted to an unpainted metal piece in your repeater cabinet with some heatsink compound. Dave Cameron VE7LTD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, wm5c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, New member here. Thanks for allowing me to join. Our club has acquired some large lead-acid 12v batteries we would like to use to back up our repeater in emergency situations. Does anyone know of a good (but simple and inexpensive [we are a very small group in a very small town]) circuit to accomplish this? Any input would be appreciated. Danny WM5C Heart Of Texas Ham Operators Group (HOTHOG) Brady, TX www.hothog.org
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Ahhh, ok. Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the general and extra class written element books. Thanks Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade) On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com]*On Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
I'm going to be near AES Milwaukee tomarrow... so I'll stop in and get da books. I already have code tapes and code software I've been trying to learn code for a while, I just have a brick for a brain for learning it and on top of that, something always comes up to distract me from daily practice - I can never get a set schedual for free time a few weeks to learn it... something always comes up to change everything and screw me up. The dropping of the code requirement shouldn't be the end of the code for the people who were trying to learn. I say - keep going. Its a challenge almost like learning a new language. I'll still continue to try and ONE OF THESE DAYS ... I'll make my first cw contact. I just gotta get a few QSLs on my wall for CW comms to add to the FM DX, SSB and even AM work I've done. Dave / N9NLU On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I just ordered the general study guide. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com]*On Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 10:25 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Ahhh, ok. Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the general and extra class written element books. Thanks Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade) On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery Signal
In the wav file is that white noise or data bursts before and after the dtmf? Dave / N9NLU On 12/12/06, Jaime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a digital signal. Could it be one of those new d-star rigs that some one has activated the autodial feature on the dtmf pad too? The DTMF sounds like it is coming from an autodial feature. My HT has this feature and so does my mobile rig. Jaime-KA3NXN - Original Message From: Scott Overstreet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Overstreet [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dave Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:10:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery Signal Hello All An interfering mystery signal has suddenly appeared on the input (144.670mhz.) of our repeater. Using a five kc. wide FM detector---The signal is approximately one second in duration opens with 100 hz. PL (which continues throughout) and then three DTMF zeros follow in rapid succession and then possibly a short period of some sort of data. The signal repeats exactly two times an hour and the source is off in between transmissions. This goes on continuously without interruption or apparent change. Our area is between urban and big city and the signal is strong enough to be heard over a wide area using only an HT. A wave file of the mystery signal is at: http://www.radagast .org/~dplatt/ hamradio/ Signal_3. wavhttp://www.radagast.org/%7Edplatt/hamradio/Signal_3.wav using an FM detector with wide open squelch. We are obviously very interested in identifing this signal and its origin What is it ? Thanks-- Scott, N6NXI -- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answershttp://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx. Try it now.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] One more FS: 2 - LARGE VHF Cavity Filters
Hummm, I ran across that issue myself. But that was with an absolutely fresh install of XP and nothing else. I had to install Java and then the buttons came up active. ActiveX is used for the streaming tower camera video on the site. So makesure you have your java installed and enabled. Dave / N9NLU On 12/12/06, Kevin Natalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, Can't for some reason get into your web-page, Explorer 7 keeps stopping ActiveX from installing. I have even allowed you as a safe site, it does appear to install, as the boxes come up saying to install, but still keeps the menu from loading. Don't know what's wrong, maybe a bug in IE7 :). Regards Kevin. [image: My status] Get Skype http://www.skype.com/go/download and call me for free. - Original Message - *From:* Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:39 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] One more FS: 2 - LARGE VHF Cavity Filters One more FS... thats all. Got interferance from a VHF paging system, well then, these are for you. FOR SALE: 2 - GE VHF Cavities -- I cannot find a M/N anywhere. Only General Electric printed on them. about 10 inch diameter , about 23 to the top of the can, and 27-3/4 to the top of the adjustment fixture. Each comes with a floor/wall mounting bracket. Each trashcan weighs ... well, ummm, heavy. Local pickup / delivery prefered, but I can ship these if one really wanted them shipped. Asking $100 for the pair of them. Pictures and other items forsale at www.kmcg.org -- go to the swap shop button on the left side. Thanks Dave / N9NLU sparc_nz Description: Binary data
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pacific Research RI-210 for sale
If you still have the controller, I'll take it. Where and how do I pay? Dave Schmidt N9NLU --- Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Vertex UHF VXR-5000 repeater I got for my latest project came with a Pacific Research RI-210 repeater controller in it (Not hooked up just sitting in it). I don't know squat about it and don't really want to know squat about it other then if I can help re-coop some of my investment by selling it to someone for $200.00. Anyone interested? Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Repeater
I had several Moto R100 repeaters. The PA is based on the Motorola MOSTAR, everything else, I have no clue. Software can be found at the hackersrussia web site The software hack to make the R100 go out of band can be found at: http://www.batlabs.com/r100.html The programming cable is VERY SIMPLE, and DOES NOT need a RIB interface, it just plugs directly into the serial port on the computer. That schematic is at: http://www.batlabs.com/images/r100.gif As for using the repeater - I left the R100 controller connected - somewhat, but connected the audio path cables to the empty DB-25 port on the bottom of the case as well as bringing the COR, PTT etc, all the necessary signals down to the DB-25 port. If you have a DB-25 already there, Get rid of it, its not of any use its some funky phone patch thingie, and install your own DB-25. Then make up your cable that goes from the DB-25 on the R100 to your controller. Much much more reliable, better audio, more options and control but the best thing, you will then have an IDer. The stock R100 does not have an IDer built in the controller board. One of those Motorola - DUH - things I guess. As for a manual - No can do here. I sold the last manual a while back, but you can find them at hamfests. And forget about taking it to a Moto dealer, a few years ago I had an R100 that stumped me for at least a month with a problem that disapeared if you had your eyes looking at it - but would re-aprear if if you looked away. I took it to a couple moto shops - no one would touch it, Motorola does not supply the parts anymore for the R100 and the service shops do not want to waste their time on fixing an old heap. Don't get me wrong, I like the dang things in fact I'm actually looking for a couple more just because they are compact. I have a question though, I've always seen UHF R100 repeaters, Was there ever a VHF version? If so, I would love to get my hands on one of them. Dave Schmidt N9NLU Kewaskum, WI --- texaswpd103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info. When I called the radio shop at the City I work for, the radio guy laughed when I aske dif he knew what a 2135 key was. When I got there, I figured out why. He opened a drawer and there were probably 100 of those keys laying there. Still hunting the manual, though. Even Motorola doesn't have 'em for any price. Keep up the good work! Ryan Holt, KC5LEU WQAU267 Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Power FerrUPS problem
Similar problem here with my Best ME850VA. Had it on my repeater for the linking computer till a lightning strike - not necessarily a direct hit, it aprears to have hit a power pole about 150 feet away from the tower. Even so, I did have lots of electronics smoke, fry and other wise go nutz as well as having arc pitting on the tip on the tip of the repeater antenna and the internal pin of the N connector at the antenna acted as a fuse ( POOF ). The repeater itself is good, but surge energy came in via the EMP which was picked up by the linear power supplies. No different with the UPS. There is large windings in there. The UPS didn't work after the hit. I found out it was a fuse or two on one of the boards that blew. After replacing them, the UPS started up, but had the error light lit and the inverter sounded loaded. On closer inspection, I noticed a couple of the SMP60N06 FETs were blowen apart. So maybe you took a bit of a hit at the site and the EMP did the same as what happened here. If you run across a place that has a decent price on the SMP60N06 FETs, please let me know where and what price. Considering the price on replacement assemblies, I think it would be more cost effective to fix it thyself. Dave / N9NLU --- Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is related in that the Best Power FerrUPS FE 1.4 KVA, powers the computer that operates my linking system. Has anyone repaired a UPS of this brand? After exausting it's battery, (several hours after the power went out in Orlando)and shutting it's self down. At that time it seemed to have worked fine. When the power came back on several sparks were seen comming from the inverter boards. Upon closer inspection, I found several SMP60N06 N channel power FETs had exploded, a few on each inverter board. Best Power tech support only sells the assembly which is both inverter boards, and ...HOLD ON the assembly is $1340.00. Does anone have any experiance repairing or have a schematic for the inverter boards for this unit? I can be contacted directly at my Yahoo address Thanks for any help 73 AC0Y Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Enforcment
The weather forecast should have been your first clue. Even though it doesn't say exactly where it is... it have a picture of the Sears Tower the station is in Chicago! Secondly, to answer the first persons issue about triangulation... that is what they were doing by driving around. They initially took a bearing, drove past it, took another bearing reading and then drove around again to grab another bearing and then nailed it. Which is entirely possible with what Hams have available to them except what Uncle Charles has is more computerized so a monkey can operate it. Example: A ham - one person, not a whole fox hunt team - can drive around, take a bearing with a yagi antenna, drive around some more and grab a bearing and then finally drive to another location to grab a bearing each time logging their GPS location where they took the reading ... whalla, plot your GPS locations and bearings onto a map and BAM! you have your triangulation with just using one tracker. This is the old skool method, unless you have big $$$ for a computerized GPS enhanced Doppler RDF system like the FCC. Its far Far FAR!!! more accurate than taking one directional reading and then accusing XYZ station for causing interference just because that station is within or close that path from where the reading was taken. I speak from experience since I have been the accused from a ego sensitive, never can be wrong, blame it on everyone else person in Hubertus, WI who will take a reading from his back yard and accuse anyone and everyone who is on his schnit list that day who just so happens to be within that RF path - of which his reading may be a wee bent or favored due to the alcohol and or drugs. Intelligence and perseverance for accuracy will go a long way rather than making gereral QRM accusations about an individual who one THINKS or ASSUMES is the problem. Dave / N9NLU --- Paul Guello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get the rest of this video. Any idea where one would look? It says 'MetroVision 7 abc', but no indication of where they are. Paul, kb9wlc --- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a link for an interesting article about interference of radio signal and how they are tracked down , I always thought you had to Triangulate a Signal , Ride along with the FCC I did Virus Check files are ok. Enjoy Don KA9QJG One file is very large and the other is small http://www.sandman.com/files/FCC-Interference.mpg http://www.sandman.com/files/FCC-Interference.wmv Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]
One thing I noticed Hamvention was a week earlier this year than last. Now watch, weather will be just absolutely beautiful this up comming weekend - when it usually would have been. --- Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote: Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental Airlines thru Houston or American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights cancelled (or at least SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx. Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60 cents a gallon more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was not a good year to make the 4,400 mile round trip. With the recent snow in the Denver area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top again either. Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year, though I remember it being a bit cool as well. With rain 2 years in a row, maybe next year will be a dry one? (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year) Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] EchoStation , Cheap quick Repeater]
I'm running Echostation on my repeater using a Win 2000K Pro OS. Its very stable, very reliable. I have built the interface into a DB-9 shell using a transistor, a resistor and a diode. Heck, the DB-9 and the shell was even recycled so the whole cost of the interface is way under $10. If one was to build from new parts, its all available from radio shack. Some things that I have added hardware wise: COMPUTER ** I changed the computer AC power supply to a 12VDC computer power supply ( the repeater and computer run off a 12VDC supply voltage with battery and generator backup ) ** I built it into an aluminium rack mount computer case. NICE SHEILDING! ** I added ferrite on ALL the power leads internal and external, on all the interface cables and all the audio leads incomming and outgoing ** The system is built with quality components not the generic components. the most important item is the Motherboard. A bare bones quality motherboard is key. DO NOT USE ONE THAT HAS MANY FEATURES BUILT IN, IT SUCKS UP THE FREE RESOURCES. OF WHICH YOU DO NOT WANT TO SHARE RESORCES WITH THIS APPLICATION! Find one that has very little option built onto the board Like the ASUS P2E-B AT PII motherboard ** I recomend the use of a REAL sound Blaster sound card such as the SoundBlaster 64AWE ** I also recomend doubling the recomended minimums, double the memory, double the HD space, Double the CPU processor etc. ** and finally, I recomend the use of Windows 200K Pro using the NTFS format. Extreemly stable for long term, unattended use. RF ** A dedicated control channel with a DTMF decoder control circuit. Not only will you have a seperate control channel if someone is playing around and you need to shut down the repeater, you have control of reseting the computer by adding a momentary switch the the DTMF decoder output which is connected to the reset switch input of the computer. ** I have set my TX radio for a TOT of 5 minutes and a shorter hang time. This allows the actual radio to stop TXing more quickly and reset the TOT on the radio, BUT if it should so happen, if the software would lock in TX, the radio would time out in 5 minutes and end its emmissions till a reset could be done. Audio ** If you want to customize your TX audio, you could either run an external equalizer or you can use a software based equalizer to customize your audio clairity. ** Interfacing the Echostation controller to other bands is very easy - I have done just that just by using audio mixing circuits for the input and output... that circuit again is all Radio Shack components. I'm sure there is much more that can be done. I know I have some more plans for additions to my systems - just need the time. Dave Schmidt / N9NLU Kewaskum, WI --- JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, Echostation can do it. But then you have to dedicate a computer to run a repeater. That is certainly NOT a quick and cheap repeater solution. Also, a rigblaster is an expensive solution when you can just as easily get a db-9 connecter with a transister, a few resisters, and diode for less than $10 to do everything the rigblaster does for something like $80. Rather then Echostation to run a quick and cheap repeater why not just wire up a relay with a delay, time-out timer, couple the audio the old fashioned way?? kf4vgx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if anyone has tried the EchoStation software? But Jonathan Taylor's software will do the trick for a quick and cheap repeater. I am running it here while my own repeater is under repair. Using a rigblaster with two kenwood radios without duplexer's.The audio is clear and strong ,the range even better than the repeater under repair. I use the announcement feature for local nets and times. I recommend using Echostation for a permanent or portable repeater Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1 5/8 HARDLINE
Hu, that might be interesting - contact me at cworksmidwest (AT) yahoo (DOTTT) co with your price. Might be an interesting 6M duplexer project ;-) Dave N9NLU --- NØATH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got 6 pcs 6 foot long of 3 1/2 inch if that would help Dave / NØATH - Original Message - From: David Schornak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 1 5/8 HARDLINE does anyone here now where I can get 6 pieces of 1 5/8 hard-line about 5' long or thirty feet cheap I want to build a 6m duplexer. David N1IB Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SCOM 5K For Sale or Trade - PRICE LOWERED!
Sorry, they have been sold. --- Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would offer $110.00 for one of the units plus $15 shipping. Please let me know if this is acceptable. I also have several items that I would trade for the unit, but no duplexer. What would you be interested in? Thanks and 73, Kevin, K9HX At 12:55 PM 4/3/2004, you wrote: LOWERED PRICE. I had no idea what these are really worth now a days, so I started them out at $200, but that seems to have been too high. So the Price has been lowered! SCOM 5K V2.0 No display board or accessories Mounted in a 7 x 6.5 x 1.5 aluminum case that has the display LED holes already punched. Comes with user/programming manual with schematics Asking $165 each -- $300 for the pair ** SHIPPED in the US ** Elsewhere, contact me for a shipping rate. Offers and trades may be considered! One was used lightly and the other was a spair and never used. Both are in very nice physical condition. Trade items... I'm looking for a VHF duplexer that can handle 100W @ .600 split I accept Paypal and I accept US Postal Money Orders. Thanks Dave Schmidt N9NLU Kewaskum, WI Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help find EF Johnson CR-1000 manual
Is there a difference in the series 1000 EFJ repeater to the CR-1000 EFJ repeater? I have a Series 1000 UHF manual - missing the cover, but its in readable condition. Dave N9NLU --- Derek B. McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need an RF Johnson CR-1000 repeater manual. Especially need tune-up instructions for TX and RX. If anyone knows a supplier, please let me know. Thanks, Derek Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] I found it
I didn't buy it off the guy on e-bay though ... I have one of the 40ft Rohn telescoping masts. Heavy in weight, great galvinizing, very easy to setup and it can hold up quite a bit especually if used with a drive on base and some guy wires ( the guy wires are a necesity if going over 25 - 30 feet ) Dave N9NLU --- Brian D Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also a seller on Ebay selling Rohn push-up masts in lengths up to 50'. Prices seem decent, but I've not bought any yet. THX/BDH On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 23:15, Robin McCoy wrote: I've used this one before. Works good, last a long time (if you take care of it). Robin N7XGG -Original Message- From: J Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; 85repeater Subject: [Repeater-Builder] I found it I have been looking for a portable mast for some time. No one carries it any more But I found the guy Here is the site http://www.snapupportablemast.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] For Sale - A REAL!!! EF Johnson Programming RPI
I know a pile of people are looking for one of these units ... the real thing or even a clone. FOR SALE! A REAL EFJ RPI!!! which is kinda rare and hard to find... especially this one, the 023-5810-000 that is capable of programming repeaters such as the Johnson 3450 which the programming jack only provides 7VDC or so to power the RPI ( The original RPI - 023-5800-000 - does not like that low voltage). This unit will also program the Challenger series (7100) and the 8600 series mobile radios, it will program the 5800 series challenger HTs and it will program the remote alpha heads and probably more. This unit is in very good condition and has a very long programming cable with dual connectors for double sided edge and dual row pin programming ports. Asking $150 shipped for this unit. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. I accept PAYPAL online payment and US Postal Money Orders. Thanks Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Good Ideas to Turn on and off a Repeater
Why not get a Kenwood TK-880 ( I think ) --- a kenwood mobile radio that is fleetsync capable. You can then use another fleetsync moble or portable to sent a specific fleetsync code to turn off the repeater and another fleetsync code to turn it back on. The radio at the repeater site would control a relay, which would break the path of the COR on the repeater. This will allow the repeater to identify yet - to keep it legal rather than breaking the PTT path. Best yet is the fact that you can have a seperate control channel... so if some moron wants to use a KW amp under the repeater site to cause mayhem, you still can kill the repeater on the seperate control channel rather than fighting with the offending signal on the input frequency. Using fleetsync - it just sounds like a small burst of white noise for a split second... thats all it takes to turn it on or off. No DTMF that anyone and everyone can decode no matter how fast you key it or use an autodialer no unpublished pl or DPL tones - those can be found also... Fleetsync, push a button to select what you want to do, press the ptt and just throw your callsign out - the fleetsync code just went out and you identified your transmission - thats all. Dave N9NLU --- kg4yti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for Good Ways to Turn on and off a Repeater by remote. This is what I want to do,I want to use the Repeater COR and or RX Audio to make a relay make and break the PTT path so the repeater will not key. I do not want put a Repeater Controller on the Repeater. I would Appreciate any ideas thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: micor 6m repeater FS
But what is the price no mention of that crutial piece of information. --- milguy111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI - i am NOT interested in offers for the individual components of the 6m repeater system. The equipment is sold as a compete set. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
