Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-04-01 Thread russ
Well I am on my Lap top and it has Auto Fix. I can't fine where to turn it
off. The big problem is it looks good till I send it. Then after it goes off
the sreen it fixes what it does not like.
73 Russ


- Original Message - 
From: "mch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


> Russ, you need to get hold of a spell checker. :-)
>
> (or not have it automatically 'fix' all the things it thinks is wrong.)
>
> Joe M.
>
> russ wrote:
> >
> > The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more
money.
> > When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there
> > units went away. 2nd was the fact that the new Motorola stuff was not as
> > good as the older Micros. Ever since mother "M" stopped building radio's
in
> > the US they went down the tubes. They (the State)compared Johnson,
(there
> > number 2 Joyce) Motorola, Midland, MA  Com. For state wide support and
less
> > break downs then any of the above. It was Kenwood systems. in fact in
the
> > last year the break down rate is less the 1% with Kenwood Systems. I
have a
> > copy of the full report form the state if you would like a copy. Neat
> > reading. The state of PA went with MA/Com for there state wide system
for
> > many of the same reasons. Add one thing Kenwood systems was two Million
> > higher then MA/Com. This seems to be going on all over. There was a time
> > when Motorola was king. But in the pass few year they have lost more
> > contracts then they ever have.
> > So that is the answer to the why question.
> >
> > Very best.
> > Russ, W3CH
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver
> > with COR
> >
> > >
> > >   In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
> > >  Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
> > >
> > >   Neil - WA6KLA
> > >
> > >
> > > russ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
> > > > Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
> > > > years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
> > > > 1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
> > > > police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
> > > > Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
> > > > user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
> > > > He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
> > > > look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
> > > > It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
> > > > way. Have a great day and a good night.
> > > > 73,
> > > > Russ, W3CH
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > > > Receiver with COR
> > > >
> > > > > I'll have to check that about part 90!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
> > > > > all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
> > > > > with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
> > > > > the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
> > > > > discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
> > > > > very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos have a lot in
> > > > > common.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
> > > > > Micor or Mastr II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the
> > > > > transmitter.
> > > > >
> > > > > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go read for your self. Still a 

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread mch
Russ, you need to get hold of a spell checker. :-)

(or not have it automatically 'fix' all the things it thinks is wrong.)

Joe M.

russ wrote:
> 
> The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more money.
> When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there
> units went away. 2nd was the fact that the new Motorola stuff was not as
> good as the older Micros. Ever since mother "M" stopped building radio's in
> the US they went down the tubes. They (the State)compared Johnson, (there
> number 2 Joyce) Motorola, Midland, MA  Com. For state wide support and less
> break downs then any of the above. It was Kenwood systems. in fact in the
> last year the break down rate is less the 1% with Kenwood Systems. I have a
> copy of the full report form the state if you would like a copy. Neat
> reading. The state of PA went with MA/Com for there state wide system for
> many of the same reasons. Add one thing Kenwood systems was two Million
> higher then MA/Com. This seems to be going on all over. There was a time
> when Motorola was king. But in the pass few year they have lost more
> contracts then they ever have.
> So that is the answer to the why question.
> 
> Very best.
> Russ, W3CH
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
> with COR
> 
> >
> >   In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
> >  Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
> >
> >   Neil - WA6KLA
> >
> >
> > russ wrote:
> > >
> > > I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
> > > Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
> > > years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
> > > 1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
> > > police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
> > > Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
> > > user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
> > > He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
> > > look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
> > > It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
> > > way. Have a great day and a good night.
> > > 73,
> > > Russ, W3CH
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > > Receiver with COR
> > >
> > > > I'll have to check that about part 90!!
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
> > > > all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
> > > > with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
> > > > the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
> > > > discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
> > > > very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos have a lot in
> > > > common.
> > > >
> > > > If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
> > > > Micor or Mastr II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the
> > > > transmitter.
> > > >
> > > > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have
> > > > > not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> > > > > 73 Russ.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the
> > > > > list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> > > > > Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> > > > > 73 Russ, W3CH
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > > > > Receiver with COR]]]
> >
> >   ... snip ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-31 Thread mch
There are still a ton of MASTR II repeaters out there in 'part 90 land'.
The FCC now demands that you replace them even though the rules have not
changed??? (they still meet current specs).

I also have to admit that I never knew there was a 'list' of acceptable
equipment. I thought there were specs they had to meet, and type
acceptance to ensure that they met those specs, but I never saw a list
of acceptable equipment (except for CAP, but that's not Part 90...).

Can you post a link to this list? (the FCC one)

Joe M.

russ wrote:
> 
> THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> 
> Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been
> replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> 73 Russ.
> 
> On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list? Most
> just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> 73 Russ, W3CH
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> COR]]]
> 
> > Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
> > Says who?
> >
> > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2
> RCA
> > > and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had
> listed
> > > on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where not
> ok
> > to
> > > use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad Maggiore
> every
> > > once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the new
> ones
> > > bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking
> about
> > > has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just
> takes
> > > up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway thought
> a
> > > tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff that
> is
> > > very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day
> time
> > > only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have come
> a
> > > long way.
> > > You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again the
> > > early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank
> build
> > > and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for years. It
> > > died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe as a
> > > temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the rest
> of
> > my
> > > old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out
> pick a
> > > site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the
> sticks. I
> > > get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was
> suprezed
> > > at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the
> noise
> > > that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I would
> love
> > > to give you a tour.
> > > Have a great day!
> > > Very best of 73,
> > > Russ, W3CH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> COR]]
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> > COR]]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is
> good
> > > > > equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > russ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
> > > ADMITT.
> > > > > > > The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> > > > > > > is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so
> > clean
> > &

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread russ
This is very true!
If you like LTR they are ok. They just came out with an APCO system and I
under stand they will have 38 new models this year. I saw a demo at a show
it did not look bad but they will have to be out for a while. I have a
Kenwood TK-8150 in my SUV it has LTR (work) HAm and GMRS all in the same
radio.
Neat radio with a remote (small) control head.
Of corse I have a Kenwood 742 tri band ham rig and a Icom-706 mark two G. I
have a Maxtrac for 927 ham that is getting replaced with a Spectra soon I
hope.
The bottom line is the new Kenwood Systems stuff is real good. BTW it is not
cheap. You get what you pay for. 

Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH



- Original Message - 
From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


> brent wrote:
>
> > AGREED
> >
> > PRICE !!!  save money = more radio(s)
> >
> > to me as long as they work to my needs they are all great ! ! Tennessee
H.P
> > went to Kenwood also..had a great package deal.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver
> > with COR
> >
> >
> >
> >>  In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
> >> Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
> >>
> >>  Neil - WA6KLA
> >>
> >>
>
> Actually, Kenwood commercial equipment from the last 10-15 years is on a
> par with any other conventional (non-trunked) equipment out there. I'd
> put a Kenwood up against an _equivalent_ Motorola any day.
>
> -- 
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread Jim B.
brent wrote:

> AGREED
> 
> PRICE !!!  save money = more radio(s)
> 
> to me as long as they work to my needs they are all great ! ! Tennessee H.P
> went to Kenwood also..had a great package deal.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
> with COR
> 
> 
> 
>>  In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
>> Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
>>
>>  Neil - WA6KLA
>>
>>

Actually, Kenwood commercial equipment from the last 10-15 years is on a 
par with any other conventional (non-trunked) equipment out there. I'd 
put a Kenwood up against an _equivalent_ Motorola any day.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread russ
The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more money.
When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there
units went away. 2nd was the fact that the new Motorola stuff was not as
good as the older Micros. Ever since mother "M" stopped building radio's in
the US they went down the tubes. They (the State)compared Johnson, (there
number 2 Joyce) Motorola, Midland, MA  Com. For state wide support and less
break downs then any of the above. It was Kenwood systems. in fact in the
last year the break down rate is less the 1% with Kenwood Systems. I have a
copy of the full report form the state if you would like a copy. Neat
reading. The state of PA went with MA/Com for there state wide system for
many of the same reasons. Add one thing Kenwood systems was two Million
higher then MA/Com. This seems to be going on all over. There was a time
when Motorola was king. But in the pass few year they have lost more
contracts then they ever have.
So that is the answer to the why question.

Very best.
Russ, W3CH

- Original Message - 
From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


>
>   In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
>  Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
>
>   Neil - WA6KLA
>
>
> russ wrote:
> >
> > I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
> > Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
> > years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
> > 1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
> > police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
> > Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
> > user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
> > He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
> > look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
> > It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
> > way. Have a great day and a good night.
> > 73,
> > Russ, W3CH
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > Receiver with COR
> >
> > > I'll have to check that about part 90!!
> > >
> > > Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
> > > all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
> > > with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
> > > the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
> > > discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
> > > very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos have a lot in
> > > common.
> > >
> > > If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
> > > Micor or Mastr II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the
> > > transmitter.
> > >
> > > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> > > >
> > > > Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have
> > > > not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> > > > 73 Russ.
> > > >
> > > > On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the
> > > > list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> > > > Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> > > > 73 Russ, W3CH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > > > Receiver with COR]]]
>
>   ... snip ...
>
>
>
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread brent
AGREED

PRICE !!!  save money = more radio(s)

to me as long as they work to my needs they are all great ! ! Tennessee H.P
went to Kenwood also..had a great package deal.



- Original Message -
From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


>
>   In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
>  Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
>
>   Neil - WA6KLA
>
>
> russ wrote:
> >
> > I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
> > Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
> > years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
> > 1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
> > police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
> > Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
> > user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
> > He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
> > look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
> > It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
> > way. Have a great day and a good night.
> > 73,
> > Russ, W3CH
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > Receiver with COR
> >
> > > I'll have to check that about part 90!!
> > >
> > > Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
> > > all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
> > > with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
> > > the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
> > > discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
> > > very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos have a lot in
> > > common.
> > >
> > > If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
> > > Micor or Mastr II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the
> > > transmitter.
> > >
> > > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> > > >
> > > > Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have
> > > > not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> > > > 73 Russ.
> > > >
> > > > On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the
> > > > list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> > > > Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> > > > 73 Russ, W3CH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
> > > > Receiver with COR]]]
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread Neil McKie

  In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to 
 Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


russ wrote:
> 
> I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about 
> Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early 
> years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since 
> 1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State 
> police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems? 
> Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the 
> user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today. 
> He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go 
> look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess 
> It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any 
> way. Have a great day and a good night.
> 73,
> Russ, W3CH
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz 
> Receiver with COR
> 
> > I'll have to check that about part 90!!
> >
> > Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is 
> > all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences 
> > with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper 
> > the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars, 
> > discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are 
> > very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos have a lot in 
> > common.
> >
> > If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the 
> > Micor or Mastr II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the 
> > transmitter.
> >
> > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> > >
> > > Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have 
> > > not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> > > 73 Russ.
> > >
> > > On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the 
> > > list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> > > Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> > > 73 Russ, W3CH
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz 
> > > Receiver with COR]]]

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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread russ
I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about Motorola in
the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early years. If it was build
after Paul statrted building them and since 1997 or so they did a 100% turn
around. Ever wonder why the State police in GA stoped useing Motorola and
went to Kenwood systems? Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like
you said if the user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list
today. He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go look
up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess It did not
but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any way.
Have a great day and a good night.
73,
Russ, W3CH


- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


> I'll have to check that about part 90!!
>
> Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is all that
> matters. There are many that have had bad experiences with that equipment.
> This reminds me of a article in the newspaper the other day.  They did an
> article on the Yugo brand of cars, discussing how so many people dislike
them
> but a certain few are very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos
have a
> lot in common.
>
> If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the Micor or
Mastr
> II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the transmitter.
>
> "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> >
> > Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been
> > replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> > 73 Russ.
> >
> > On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list?
Most
> > just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> > Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> > 73 Russ, W3CH
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with
> > COR]]]
> >
> >
> > > Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
> > > Says who?
> > >
> > > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2
> > RCA
> > > > and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had
> > listed
> > > > on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where
not
> > ok
> > > to
> > > > use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad
Maggiore
> > every
> > > > once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the
new
> > ones
> > > > bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking
> > about
> > > > has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just
> > takes
> > > > up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway
> thought
> > a
> > > > tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff
that
> > is
> > > > very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day
> > time
> > > > only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have
> come
> > a
> > > > long way.
> > > > You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again
> the
> > > > early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank
> > build
> > > > and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for
years.
> It
> > > > died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe
as
> a
> > > > temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the
rest
> > of
> > > my
> > > > old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out
> > pick a
> > > > site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the
> > sticks. I
> > > > get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was
> > suprezed
> > > > at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the
> > noise
> > > > that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I
would
> > love
> > > > to give you a tour.
> > > > Have a great day!
> > > > Very best of 73,
> >

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I'll have to check that about part 90!!

Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is all that
matters. There are many that have had bad experiences with that equipment. 
This reminds me of a article in the newspaper the other day.  They did an
article on the Yugo brand of cars, discussing how so many people dislike them
but a certain few are very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore & Yugos have a
lot in common.

If it were me & type acceptance was a problem, I would use the Micor or Mastr
II as the receiver & the Maggiore as the transmitter.

"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
> 
> Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been
> replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
> 73 Russ.
> 
> On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list? Most
> just do not want to get in a back and forth.
> Again came out and see a good system well installed.
> 73 Russ, W3CH
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> COR]]]
> 
> 
> > Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
> > Says who?
> >
> > "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2
> RCA
> > > and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had
> listed
> > > on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where not
> ok
> > to
> > > use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad Maggiore
> every
> > > once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the new
> ones
> > > bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking
> about
> > > has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just
> takes
> > > up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway
thought
> a
> > > tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff that
> is
> > > very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day
> time
> > > only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have
come
> a
> > > long way.
> > > You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again
the
> > > early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank
> build
> > > and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for years.
It
> > > died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe as
a
> > > temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the rest
> of
> > my
> > > old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out
> pick a
> > > site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the
> sticks. I
> > > get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was
> suprezed
> > > at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the
> noise
> > > that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I would
> love
> > > to give you a tour.
> > > Have a great day!
> > > Very best of 73,
> > > Russ, W3CH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> COR]]
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> > COR]]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is
> good
> > > > > equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > russ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
> > > ADMITT.
> > > > > > > The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> > > > > > > is

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.

Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been
replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
73 Russ.

On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list? Most
just do not want to get in a back and forth.
Again came out and see a good system well installed.
73 Russ, W3CH


- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]]


> Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
> Says who?
>
> "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2
RCA
> > and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had
listed
> > on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where not
ok
> to
> > use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad Maggiore
every
> > once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the new
ones
> > bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking
about
> > has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just
takes
> > up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway thought
a
> > tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff that
is
> > very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day
time
> > only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have come
a
> > long way.
> > You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again the
> > early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank
build
> > and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for years. It
> > died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe as a
> > temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the rest
of
> my
> > old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out
pick a
> > site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the
sticks. I
> > get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was
suprezed
> > at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the
noise
> > that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I would
love
> > to give you a tour.
> > Have a great day!
> > Very best of 73,
> > Russ, W3CH
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]
> >
> >
> > >
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> COR]]
> > >
> > >
> > > > There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is
good
> > > > equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> > > >
> > > > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > russ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
> > ADMITT.
> > > > > > The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> > > > > > is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so
> clean
> > I
> > > do
> > > > > > not know how they do it.
> > > > > > I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites.
Fell
> > had
> > > a
> > > > > > Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on
this
> > > pair
> > > > and
> > > > > > he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and
that
> > > (HE
> > > > > > SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of
> the
> > > > > > Maggiore.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very best of 73,
> > > > > > Russ, W3CH
> > > > > > Trustee W3PS/r
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
> > > > > Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw
one
> at
> > a
> > > > > site I was at, I'd be demanding it be remov

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
Says who?

"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2   RCA
> and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had listed
> on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where not ok
to
> use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad Maggiore every
> once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the new ones
> bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking about
> has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just takes
> up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway thought a
> tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff that is
> very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day time
> only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have come a
> long way.
> You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again the
> early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank build
> and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for years. It
> died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe as a
> temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the rest of
my
> old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out pick a
> site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the sticks. I
> get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was suprezed
> at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the noise
> that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I would love
> to give you a tour.
> Have a great day!
> Very best of 73,
> Russ, W3CH
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]
> 
> 
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]
> >
> >
> > > There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
> > > equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> > >
> > > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > russ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
> ADMITT.
> > > > > The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> > > > > is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so
clean
> I
> > do
> > > > > not know how they do it.
> > > > > I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell
> had
> > a
> > > > > Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
> > pair
> > > and
> > > > > he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
> > (HE
> > > > > SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of
the
> > > > > Maggiore.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very best of 73,
> > > > > Russ, W3CH
> > > > > Trustee W3PS/r
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
> > > > Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one
at
> a
> > > > site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
> > > > owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in
to
> > > > pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
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> > > > WD8CHL
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
Hey Gary,
Write me off line I will give you my Phone number or drop me yours. I am
working in NYC on a project right now. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Very best to all.
73 Russ, W3CH


- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver with COR]


> Gary-
>
> 1.  I was not referring to you as the fool.  But if you are wanting to
claim
> that title I certainly can not stop you.  Your actions will decide that!!
>
> 2.  You are correct, I do not know your past.  (nor do I care about your
> past!)
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > To Neal NewmanI think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is referring to me as the
fool.
> > Obviously he has no idea who I am nor my past contributions to
scientific
> and
> > television research.  Having noted past demeaning comments to some from
this
>
> > individual, I wish he would keep his negative comments to himself .If he
> > continues to degrade people it will deteriorate the purpose of this fine
> group. Neal
> > pass along my best to your wife, hope she is now feeling well.  Carol is
> doing
> > fine after her surgery. Russ W3CH sometime we have to meet over coffee.
> > Regards to all,  Gary Katona  K2UQ  Trenton, NJ
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Gary-

1.  I was not referring to you as the fool.  But if you are wanting to claim
that title I certainly can not stop you.  Your actions will decide that!!

2.  You are correct, I do not know your past.  (nor do I care about your
past!)



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> To Neal NewmanI think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is referring to me as the fool.  
> Obviously he has no idea who I am nor my past contributions to scientific
and 
> television research.  Having noted past demeaning comments to some from this

> individual, I wish he would keep his negative comments to himself .If he 
> continues to degrade people it will deteriorate the purpose of this fine
group. Neal 
> pass along my best to your wife, hope she is now feeling well.  Carol is
doing 
> fine after her surgery. Russ W3CH sometime we have to meet over coffee. 
> Regards to all,  Gary Katona  K2UQ  Trenton, NJ






 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread albemarle7
To Neal NewmanI think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is referring to me as the fool.  
Obviously he has no idea who I am nor my past contributions to scientific and 
television research.  Having noted past demeaning comments to some from this 
individual, I wish he would keep his negative comments to himself .If he 
continues to degrade people it will deteriorate the purpose of this fine group. 
Neal 
pass along my best to your wife, hope she is now feeling well.  Carol is doing 
fine after her surgery. Russ W3CH sometime we have to meet over coffee. 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
hmmm, I don't know about that... 

When a grant comes down to pay 70 percent of the costs & you can use it to buy
a NEW SOLID STATE transmitter to replace a 23 year old tube transmitter, it
begins to make sense.

(Not to mention a few other benefits)


Neal Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  No the fool is the person in your company who said  lets put IBOC on 
> the station  then wrote the Check. 1 year later royality check.. another 
> year goes by another royality check...
>  ect ect.
> 
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> 
> >I never claimed IBOC was a "good" idea!!
> >
> >Neal Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL
> >>
> >>JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
> >>>  
> >>>
> >anything
> >  
> >
> >>>else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this
group".
> >>>  
> >>>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
> >>>  
> >>>
> >stop
> >  
> >
> >>>you.
> >>>
> >>>BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
> >>>  
> >>>
> >prove
> >  
> >
> >>>or dis-prove that!  
> >>>
> >>>John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of
one
> >>>  
> >>>
> >of
> >  
> >
> >>>the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998. 
(Gee,
> >>>  
> >>>
> >my
> >  
> >
> >>>claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
> BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When
> 
> 
> >are
> >  
> >
> you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and
prove
> 
> 
> >me
> >  
> >
> a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems
around.
> 
> 
> >I
> >  
> >
> am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
> words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is
not
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>the
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all
> 
> 
> >way
> >  
> >
> willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have
then
> 
> 
> >so
> >  
> >
> be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please
> 
> 
> >lets
> >  
> >
> help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!
> 
> 73 Russ, W3CH
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
> 
> 
> >COR]]
> >  
> >
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
> >equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> >
> >"Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>russ wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
ADMITT.
> >>>The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> >>>is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>I
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> do
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>not know how they do it.
> >>>I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell
had
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> a
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> pair
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >and
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> (HE
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
> >>>Maggiore.
> >>>
> >>>Very best of 73,
> >>>Russ, W3CH
> >>>Trustee W3PS/r
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
> >>Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one
at
> >>   
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>a
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
> >>owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in
to
> >>pick it up outa the trash bin, a

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread Neal Newman






 No the fool is the person in your company who said  lets put IBOC on
the station  then wrote the Check. 1 year later royality check..
another year goes by another royality check...
 ect ect.

JOHN MACKEY wrote:

  I never claimed IBOC was a "good" idea!!

Neal Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL

JOHN MACKEY wrote:



  Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
  

  
  anything
  
  

  else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group".
  

  
  
  
  

  However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
  

  
  stop
  
  

  you.

BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
  

  
  prove
  
  

  or dis-prove that!  

John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one
  

  
  of
  
  

  the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee,
  

  
  my
  
  

  claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)


"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

  
  
Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When

  

  
  are
  
  

  
you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove

  

  
  me
  
  

  
a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around.

  

  
  I
  
  

  
am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not
   


  
  the
 

  
  
way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all

  

  
  way
  
  

  
willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then

  

  
  so
  
  

  
be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please

  

  
  lets
  
  

  
help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!

73 Russ, W3CH



- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with

  

  
  COR]]
  
  

  

   



  There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.

"Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

  
  
russ wrote:

   



  THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT.
The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
 

  

  

  
  I
 

  
  
do
   



  

  not know how they do it.
I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell had
 

  

  

a
   



  

  Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
 

  

  

pair
   



  and
 

  
  

  he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
 

  

  

(HE
   



  

  SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
Maggiore.

Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
Trustee W3PS/r

 

  

This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one at
   


  

  
  a
 

  
  

  
site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in to
pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.

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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I never claimed IBOC was a "good" idea!!

Neal Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL
> 
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> 
> >Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
anything
> >else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group".

> >However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
stop
> >you.
> >
> >BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
prove
> >or dis-prove that!  
> >
> >John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one
of
> >the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee,
my
> >claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)
> >
> >
> >"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
> >>BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When
are
> >>you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove
me
> >>a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around.
I
> >>am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
> >>words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >  
> >
> >>way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all
way
> >>willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then
so
> >>be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please
lets
> >>help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!
> >>
> >>73 Russ, W3CH
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message - 
> >>From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: 
> >>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
> >>>equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> >>>
> >>>"Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> russ wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT.
> >The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> >is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
> >  
> >
> >I
> >  
> >
> >>do
> >>
> >>
> >not know how they do it.
> >I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell had
> >  
> >
> >>a
> >>
> >>
> >Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
> >  
> >
> >>pair
> >>
> >>
> >>>and
> >>>  
> >>>
> >he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
> >  
> >
> >>(HE
> >>
> >>
> >SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
> >Maggiore.
> >
> >Very best of 73,
> >Russ, W3CH
> >Trustee W3PS/r
> >
> >  
> >
> This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
> Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one at
> 
> 
> >a
> >  
> >
> site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
> owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in to
> pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.
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> WD8CHL
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread Neal Newman






IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in here    LOL

JOHN MACKEY wrote:

  Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or anything
else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group". 
However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't stop
you.

BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will prove
or dis-prove that!  

John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one of
the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee, my
claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)


"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When are
you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove me
a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around. I
am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not

  
  the
  
  
way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all way
willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then so
be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please lets
help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!

73 Russ, W3CH



- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]




  There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.

"Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
russ wrote:



  THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT.
The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
  

  

  
  I
  
  
do


  

  not know how they do it.
I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell had
  

  

a


  

  Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
  

  

pair


  and
  
  

  he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
  

  

(HE


  

  SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
Maggiore.

Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
Trustee W3PS/r

  

This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one at

  

  
  a
  
  

  
site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in to
pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.

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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
You are right I am sorry I just got in and read it fast.
Oh FM I have build 22 to day as 14 TV stations.
! SW station to date.  But please run a NEW Maggiore to the test or as I
have sad please come on out and let is show you. We are linked from north to
south with VOiP we have repeaters up and down the east cost. We I am beat
and am going to bed.
Very Best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
BSEE, GROL, ACE


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From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]]


> Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
anything
> else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group".
> However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
stop
> you.
>
> BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
prove
> or dis-prove that!
>
> John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one
of
> the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee,
my
> claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)
>
>
> "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
> > BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When
are
> > you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove
me
> > a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems
around. I
> > am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
> > words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not
> the
> > way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all
way
> > willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then
so
> > be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please
lets
> > help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!
> >
> > 73 Russ, W3CH
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]
> >
> >
> > > There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
> > > equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> > >
> > > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > russ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
ADMITT.
> > > > > The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> > > > > is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so
clean
> I
> > do
> > > > > not know how they do it.
> > > > > I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell
had
> > a
> > > > > Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
> > pair
> > > and
> > > > > he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and
that
> > (HE
> > > > > SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of
the
> > > > > Maggiore.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very best of 73,
> > > > > Russ, W3CH
> > > > > Trustee W3PS/r
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or anything
else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group". 
However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't stop
you.

BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will prove
or dis-prove that!  

John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one of
the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee, my
claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)


"russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
> BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When are
> you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove me
> a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around. I
> am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
> words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not
the
> way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all way
> willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then so
> be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please lets
> help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!
> 
> 73 Russ, W3CH
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]
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> > There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
> > equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
> >
> > "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > russ wrote:
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> > > > THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT.
> > > > The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
> > > > is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
I
> do
> > > > not know how they do it.
> > > > I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell had
> a
> > > > Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
> pair
> > and
> > > > he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
> (HE
> > > > SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
> > > > Maggiore.
> > > >
> > > > Very best of 73,
> > > > Russ, W3CH
> > > > Trustee W3PS/r
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a
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> > > owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in to
> > > pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.
> > >
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