Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Duplexer . . .
lot, hi lot, you currently in manila, where exactly are you going to set up your 144Mhz repeater From: Lot k6...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 9:25:51 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Duplexer . . . Hi Everyone, We are setting up a project in Manila and would like to ask some help with information about a good repeater duplexer. I saw one in Ebay, (Sinclair Q2220E VHF BpBr Repeater Duplexer). Is this a good type of duplexer and would work on a typical repeater setup? We will use it on a VXR7000. The Repeater Frequency will be at 144.880 - 0.600. Any information will be very much appreciated. Thanks! Lot / k6irf
[Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Duplexer . . .
Hi Everyone, We are setting up a project in Manila and would like to ask some help with information about a good repeater duplexer. I saw one in Ebay, (Sinclair Q2220E VHF BpBr Repeater Duplexer). Is this a good type of duplexer and would work on a typical repeater setup? We will use it on a VXR7000. The Repeater Frequency will be at 144.880 - 0.600. Any information will be very much appreciated. Thanks! Lot / k6irf
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[Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
Hi again, I found out that the ham building our repeater is using a GE Master II. He suggested we use a G7-144. Our antenna will be mounted on top of the tower at either 60 or 70 feet, as we getting a newer tower than the 35 foot one that is up now. Does anybody think that the G7 will not hold up being top mounted? I have read the comments here about current the antenna question on the G7-220 and have read the G7-144 reviews on eham, which run both ways. Now I am looking for actual repeater owners' comments, which I would value more than the eham ones. Hopefully, we will have it up and running by July. The funny thing is our users will be shocked when they can get into it easily with a handheld as he wants to run it from his location for awhile to make sure all the bugs are out. His antennas are at the 350 foot level and only 20 miles west of us. I am afraid they will be disappointed when we go to the lower level. Thanks for all the advice. 73 John, W3ML
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John, I'm e-mailing this directly as well as the group so the attachment comes through (I think yahoo strips them off). I'm using a hustler G-7 on 2 meters and a G-6 on 440 machine. Both have been up on the tower for 2 years. Both have worked fine with no problems. They both are mount on a cross bar out from the tower with no top support. I'm located in up-state NY york and our winters are pretty rough on antennas. I did made a couple of changes to them however. First throw out the cheap radials that come with it and go to the hardware store and buy some solid alum tubing. I learned this the hard way as the one's that come with it are howl tubing. after the birds sit on it or it gets iced up once they break off. Secondly once you get it all tuned Krylon makes a clear coat spray paint. Spray the whole thing a couple of times. Does wonders protecting it from the UV rays. I've attached a picture of the tower with the antennas on it. Good luck with your repeater. Mike KA2NDW -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of John Poindexter Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater Hi again, I found out that the ham building our repeater is using a GE Master II. He suggested we use a G7-144. Our antenna will be mounted on top of the tower at either 60 or 70 feet, as we getting a newer tower than the 35 foot one that is up now. Does anybody think that the G7 will not hold up being top mounted? I have read the comments here about current the antenna question on the G7-220 and have read the G7-144 reviews on eham, which run both ways. Now I am looking for actual repeater owners' comments, which I would value more than the eham ones. Hopefully, we will have it up and running by July. The funny thing is our users will be shocked when they can get into it easily with a handheld as he wants to run it from his location for awhile to make sure all the bugs are out. His antennas are at the 350 foot level and only 20 miles west of us. I am afraid they will be disappointed when we go to the lower level. Thanks for all the advice. 73 John, W3ML
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
Well you are an Amateur operator so how about making one ? has to be cheaper than the price you mentioned , maybe you have friends who can help ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: nkn...@twowayradio.net Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions Send I am not much of a fan of the Mexican made DB-224E. Having said that, what are your options? Telewave has a HAM discount of 30% off list, but that still puts their equivalant at well over what the going rate for the 224E is. What about RFS Cellwave or Sinclair? Even more costly. Some say you get what youi pay for. Back to the Mexican 224E, still a worthy contender. I just installed one and a couple of it's A and B sisters over the past few months. I had to replace 2 less than 4 years old. One was in good condition despite an obvious lightening hit. Customer just wanted to spend money on a new Sinclair antenna. The other one had somehow gotten water inside the N male connector at the end of the harness. The water got inside the hot glue heat-shrink and then inside the N female on the Heliax. Needless to say, that didn't work too well. If you go with the 224, just make sure to tighten all terminal nuts and weatherproof all the connectors and joints well. Don't assume that the heatshrink with hot glue inside will keep water out. Inspect all factory moldings carefully and take appropriate measures if you have the slightest question about it. If you do, you should get years of good service out of the Mexican Commscope/Andrew DB-224E. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder Sent: Mon Apr 13 20:58:47 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Explore the new Windows Live . http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/windowslive/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
Our club uses several Comprod antennas on both VHF and UHF and highly recommend them. Quality is exceptional and their service is great to the amateur fraternity. They are priced competitively http://www.comprodcom.com/en/antennas/base/pdf/870series.pdf Roger VA7RS - Original Message - From: Tim Osborne radio1...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.54/2055 - Release Date: 04/12/09 13:14:00
[Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
I am not much of a fan of the Mexican made DB-224E. Having said that, what are your options? Telewave has a HAM discount of 30% off list, but that still puts their equivalant at well over what the going rate for the 224E is. What about RFS Cellwave or Sinclair? Even more costly. Some say you get what youi pay for. Back to the Mexican 224E, still a worthy contender. I just installed one and a couple of it's A and B sisters over the past few months. I had to replace 2 less than 4 years old. One was in good condition despite an obvious lightening hit. Customer just wanted to spend money on a new Sinclair antenna. The other one had somehow gotten water inside the N male connector at the end of the harness. The water got inside the hot glue heat-shrink and then inside the N female on the Heliax. Needless to say, that didn't work too well. If you go with the 224, just make sure to tighten all terminal nuts and weatherproof all the connectors and joints well. Don't assume that the heatshrink with hot glue inside will keep water out. Inspect all factory moldings carefully and take appropriate measures if you have the slightest question about it. If you do, you should get years of good service out of the Mexican Commscope/Andrew DB-224E. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Apr 13 20:58:47 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
Tim, One of the very important factors is to consider your intended coverage area; do you need 360-degree coverage, or is your repeater site off to one side? It is not good planning to put up an omnidirectional antenna, if your intended coverage area is mostly in one direction. A twin dipole with both loops facing in the same direction will give you a cardioid pattern that provides excellent coverage over nearly 180 degrees, plus has smooth vertical coverage for close-in users that may be under the beam of a fiberglass antenna. I have two such VHF antennas in service now, and I would never consider using a fiberglass collinear antenna in those applications. Such dipole antennas are made by Sinclair and Decibel Products, to name two makers. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Osborne Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the border assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions
At 19:52 4/13/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: I am not much of a fan of the Mexican made DB-224E. Having said that, what are your options? Telewave has a HAM discount of 30% off list, but that still puts their equivalant at well over what the going rate for the 224E is. What about RFS Cellwave or Sinclair? Even more costly. Some say you get what youi pay for. Back to the Mexican 224E, still a worthy contender. I just installed one and a couple of it's A and B sisters over the past few months. I had to replace 2 less than 4 years old. One was in good condition despite an obvious lightening hit. Customer just wanted to spend money on a new Sinclair antenna. The other one had somehow gotten water inside the N male connector at the end of the harness. The water got inside the hot glue heat-shrink and then inside the N female on the Heliax. Needless to say, that didn't work too well. If you go with the 224, just make sure to tighten all terminal nuts and weatherproof all the connectors and joints well. Don't assume that the heatshrink with hot glue inside will keep water out. Inspect all factory moldings carefully and take appropriate measures if you have the slightest question about it. If you do, you should get years of good service out of the Mexican Commscope/Andrew DB-224E. Hey, if you are going to all that work, might just as well get a Diamond and maintain it. 73 de N5NPO Norman Knapp - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Apr 13 20:58:47 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna Suggestions OK not to open a can of stinky worms..but... I need to buy a NEW 2 Meter Repeater Antenna. I am asking for suggestions. I have heard bad things about the now across the boarder assembled Andrew/DB Prod. Antennas. The 139-150 Split version is available and in stock from Tessco List is $730.00. (and yes I know it can be bought a lot cheaper) And please no suggestions about Diamond or any of the HAM made antennas. These are very poor Repeater Antennas and will not stand up to Mountain top ice and wind. Not to mention their poor performance and noisy Duplex operation. Thanks and 73 Tim K4TDO Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.53/2054 - Release Date: 04/11/09 10:51:00 -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -
[Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
I want to build 2 meter repeater station by using two IC-V8000 transceivers. Any body can guide me on this? how to interconnect these transceivers? do i need controller? if so which is best? what if i use two seperate antennas for receive and transmit istead of duplexer?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
On 1/25/07, IF YOUR NICE I MAY TELL YOU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all another question do you need 1 0r 2 antenna's on a repeater. You need to study up at the Repeater Builder website... http://www.repeater-builder.com, same name as the mailing list. You'll find PLENTY of study materials there on antennas, feedline, radios, and all of the basic technology that goes into building a good repeater. Nate WY0X
[Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
Hi all another question do you need 1 0r 2 antenna's on a repeater. Thanks
[Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
Hi does anyone have a used 2 meter repeater for sale cheap.I am trying to set one up but this is all new to me.I have read several books but of course they all are different on how to set up.Im not sure what peice's i need any help appreciated.Thanks in advance.73's
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
Tell us how much money you expect to spend and the group can tell you what you may be able to get for that amount. I'm assuming that you don't have anything - no antenna, no feedline, no controller, no duplexer, no radio. It sounds like you are looking for something that is all ready to go - plug 'n play. Is this the case? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: IF YOUR NICE I MAY TELL YOU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater Hi does anyone have a used 2 meter repeater for sale cheap.I am trying to set one up but this is all new to me.I have read several books but of course they all are different on how to set up.Im not sure what peice's i need any help appreciated.Thanks in advance.73's Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
I'm a tech, so I will not be able to do it on any hf. Mabey on 440 or 220, or 6 meter. But thanks for the info. 73's, Keane KD8AOZ --- STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 30 March 2005 19:31, ken_wlter wrote: I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start? Thanks! kd8aoz Others have indicated that you need to talk with marc about getting a coordination. I seriously doubt that you are going to get one on 2m. 2m is overpopulated with repeaters. Why not create one at 1.2GHz, where real innovation can be done? Or 902, or 2.4GHz, or ... --STeve Andre' wb8wsf (ann arbor, mich) Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start? Thanks! kd8aoz Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
ken_wlter wrote: I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start? Thanks! kd8aoz Here: http://www.miarc.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
Contact MiARC and see if there are any frequencies available. http://www.miarc.com Joe M. ken_wlter wrote: I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start? Thanks! kd8aoz Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 19:31, ken_wlter wrote: I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start? Thanks! kd8aoz Others have indicated that you need to talk with marc about getting a coordination. I seriously doubt that you are going to get one on 2m. 2m is overpopulated with repeaters. Why not create one at 1.2GHz, where real innovation can be done? Or 902, or 2.4GHz, or ... --STeve Andre' wb8wsf (ann arbor, mich) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
Good Luck, but check with your Coordinator to see if there is any pairs available, chances are very slim. Go here, and this is a starting point. http://www.miarc.com/ Mathew ken_wlter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start?Thanks!kd8aozYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater
ken_wlter wrote: I would like to put a repeter up in the Ann Arbor, MI area. What would be a good way to start? By reading this: http://www.hamrepeater.org/coordina.cfm Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna's
I'd like to get some input on what is available for 2 Meter's for an antenna. I've considered using 4 beam antenna's, and yes I have seen this setup, don't know exactly how it is working, but there is a setup in Valparaiso that has three 8 element beam antenna's side mounted on the top of a tower. But as for verticles, what is available. I have a DB304 right now, just not sure what is all involved in getting it to come down to the 2 meter band. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna's
Mathew I assume you are talking 2 meter antennas, if so about one of the best commercial antennas you could use is the DB products 224. This antenna has 6DB gain omni directional or 9DB in one direction if configured for that mode. This antenna is virtually lightning immune due to grounded construction. We have a converted recycled commercial db224 which has been up 5+ years on top of a 150ft water tank with no maintenance required to date. The cost is about $500 from Tessco with the antenna cut to the 2 meter band. Best of luck in your endevor. 73's de Tom Manning w9mwq wrote: I'd like to get some input on what is available for 2 Meter's for an antenna. I've considered using 4 beam antenna's, and yes I have seen this setup, don't know exactly how it is working, but there is a setup in Valparaiso that has three 8 element beam antenna's side mounted on the top of a tower. But as for verticles, what is available. I have a DB304 right now, just not sure what is all involved in getting it to come down to the 2 meter band. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
