[Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
FYI, A buddy installed a G6 on his repeater here locally atop a 5,000 ft + Mountain. They went back up about 30 days later and could not believe what condition it was in. I kept hearing stories over the radio about how it looked like it had been up there years. When they took it down, and brought it to one of our club meets, the radials were either broken off or bent, and the antenna did over-all look a but rough for wear. This was after having been subjected to heavy now and ice build up on Mt Wilson. The repeater owner swore by those antennas until he witnessed what effect the snow and ice had on it. My 2 Cents . . . . Paul Metzger
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
ANY Ham grade antenna should never be installed in a commercial environment. They are cheap for a reason. Go with a Decibel Products, Celwave, ASP or, Scala. The problem you get into with used antennas is that they are usually 450-460, 460-470 or, 450-470 The 450-460 will normally work down into the lower part of 70cm but they are hard to find. The 460-470 is a looser all the way around for ham use. Some of the 450-470 antennas will work for most of the band but may lose gain (and exhibit some down tilt) lower down the 70cm band. There was a lot of paging, Mobile telephones and, air to ground out there before (454.025 to 454.950) Paging died, cellular killed IMTS and, air to ground went to 900MHz. some of these antennas were ordered frequency specific and will work well. Also Radio stations use RPU (Remote PickUp) on 450 and 455 if you find one of the 450s you hit a home run. Antennas that I have used that work well. DB-410(old) or 420(newer) are exposed dipole arrays they and any antenna in that family (DB-408,DB413) Work good down to about 443.000 then they lose gain. ASP705K made by ASP works well to about 443.000 as well. Lower that that they lose gain and exhibit down tilt. PD-455 and most of the Phelps Dodge, Celwave or RFS antennas in the 450-460 versions works down to 441.000 or so. (PD-455-5 IS 440-450, PD455-6 id 450-460) PD-1151-2 HOME RUN this is a 440 to 450 antenna PD-1151-3 is a 450-460 and works about the same as the PD-455 Just test an antenna before you install it find a buddy at any paging company and get him(or her) to sweep it for you. That way you will know where it works and where it won't. Hope this is helpful. Robert / KD4PBC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
At 8/7/2008 00:09, you wrote: FYI, A buddy installed a G6 on his repeater here locally atop a 5,000 ft + Mountain. They went back up about 30 days later and could not believe what condition it was in. I kept hearing stories over the radio about how it looked like it had been up there years. When they took it down, and brought it to one of our club meets, the radials were either broken off or bent, and the antenna did over-all look a but rough for wear. This was after having been subjected to heavy now and ice build up on Mt Wilson. The repeater owner swore by those antennas until he witnessed what effect the snow and ice had on it. How strange. My G6 was on Sunset Ridge (similar elevation/climate) for over 15 years. When it came down it looked ~15 years old - not too bad. Are you sure someone didn't pull an antenna switcheroo on you? Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..) Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is a loser. Joe jimmyrtle wrote: We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..) Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
One of the groups I was with used a G6-270R for a few years. It seemed to work about as well as a similar sized (but a LOT thicker) commercial antenna that we'd also used. Feedline was the same and they were both about the same height on top of a building. I know there have been a lot of complaints here about the Hustlers, so I'm about to use a Diamond X50 on a project instead of another G6-270R. I figure if the Diamond doesn't work out, it was only $100. Sure, I know, a DB-420 is better, but sometimes you have to hide the little ham antenna amongst the big other ones so nobody notices it :) Good site with an X50 is going to beat the top of my house with a DB-420. On Aug 6, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Joe wrote: From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is a loser. Joe jimmyrtle wrote: We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..) Jim -- Cort Buffington H: +1-785-838-3034 M: +1-785-865-7206
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
Joe, Have used the G440 on my Repeater iin Ohio. Works very well, except when it ices up, then SWR range goes Down. Wesley AB8KD On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Joe wrote: From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is a loser. Joe jimmyrtle wrote: We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..) Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz
At 8/6/2008 15:02, you wrote: Joe, Have used the G440 on my Repeater iin Ohio. Works very well, except when it ices up, then SWR range goes Down. Wesley AB8KD Same experience here. Not that much ice where my repeaters are, so that's never been a major problem for me. Mine is probably 20 years old still working fine. Bob NO6B
