[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

2004-09-30 Thread Michael Singewald N1PLH
I realize I can try both to see which I like, but I thought I would
ask which audio inputs and outputs people are using on this repeater,
audio or data?

Looks like data input is designed for PL/DPL and may not work.  I
heard someone mention that the audio sounds thin on this repeater so I
thought the data in might be better.

Data output looks like it should work ok.  Again, I assume that is
discriminator audio and that is what I normally use anyway.

Thanks for any advise...looking forward to interfacing this repeater.





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

2004-09-30 Thread W9DHI
If you look at the schematics you will see that the data input has a low
pass filter and you'll have horrible audio.  We never had a problem using
the proper audio inputs on these repeaters they sound very flat and natural.
Make sure you have the drive levels in the proper range and are not cutting
back on the input controls to the repeater.


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From: Michael Singewald N1PLH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

I realize I can try both to see which I like, but I thought I would
ask which audio inputs and outputs people are using on this repeater,
audio or data?

Looks like data input is designed for PL/DPL and may not work.  I
heard someone mention that the audio sounds thin on this repeater so I
thought the data in might be better.

Data output looks like it should work ok.  Again, I assume that is
discriminator audio and that is what I normally use anyway.

Thanks for any advise...looking forward to interfacing this repeater.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

2004-09-30 Thread Ken Arck

At 03:58 PM 9/30/2004 -, you wrote:
I realize I can try both to see which I like, but I thought I would
ask which audio inputs and outputs people are using on this repeater,
audio or data?

---The TKR-850 uses DSP for just about everything to do with audio.
Unfortunately, the deemphasis curve the Kenwood engineers programmed  (the
audio available at the RA output) is considerably off from what it should be. 

Using the discriminator (or digital) output gets around this however that
being said.

The deemphasized audio output isn't all that bad actually. It does sound
decent enough on the air and it does have the advantage of having PL rolled
off already, which saves you from having to do it elsewhere. 

Unless you're a real purist, use the RA output. 

IMHO of course :-)

Ken
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We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages!
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

2004-09-30 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:11 AM 9/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
If you look at the schematics you will see that the data input has a low
pass filter and you'll have horrible audio. 

Also, if you have PL/DPL encode programmed internally to the repeater,
the external data input won't work anyway.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

2004-09-30 Thread Joe Montierth

I have hooked up several TK-750, which I think are the
same audio-wise as the 850.  The TD and RD ports are
flat audio (discriminator and modulator type), and
the TA and RA ports are emphasised (mike and speaker
type audio). The TA and RA are HP filtered to
eliminate PL.

Choose whichever one will suit your purpose better.

Joe


--- Michael Singewald N1PLH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I realize I can try both to see which I like, but I
 thought I would
 ask which audio inputs and outputs people are using
 on this repeater,
 audio or data?
 
 Looks like data input is designed for PL/DPL and may
 not work.  I
 heard someone mention that the audio sounds thin on
 this repeater so I
 thought the data in might be better.
 
 Data output looks like it should work ok.  Again, I
 assume that is
 discriminator audio and that is what I normally use
 anyway.
 
 Thanks for any advise...looking forward to
 interfacing this repeater.
 
 




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