Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-23 Thread Joe
Hello Eric,

Thanks for the tip.  Last night, the PA failed again.  I went to the 
site and found that the problem is in the 10 watt PA stage, possibly the 
IC chip or the power control transistor.  I brought it home and will 
look at it in more detail.  The strange thing was that it came back to 
life yesterday, just like a bad connection would cause.

73, Joe, K1ike


Eric Lemmon wrote:
 Joe,

 Use a magnifying glass to closely check every solder joint for cracks.  Some
 such cracks appear due to temperature cycling over time.  I have already had
 the same problem, where a PA was dead at the site but worked fine on the
 bench.  It was around 40 degrees at the site, but around 70 at the bench.
 Sure enough, a tiny crack had opened on a PA power lead.  Reflowing solder
 at that connection cured the problem.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
   



RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-23 Thread Nate Duehr
I had one once that the power control IC seemed to be doing strange things.
When we looked at it REAL closely, we noticed that the plastic case around
the IC was bulged and split at the top -- best estimate was that it was
lightning damage.  

Very hard to see at the site, easy on the workbench under a 100 watt bulb.
:-)

Since there's no good source for those IC's, we knew it was gone, but it got
thrown in the junk parts box, in-case we ever needed something else off of
it, and we swapped out that stage with another one from a different PA that
had other problems downstream of that section, and away it went... 

Nate 

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[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

Hello Eric,

Thanks for the tip.  Last night, the PA failed again.  I went to the 
site and found that the problem is in the 10 watt PA stage, possibly the 
IC chip or the power control transistor.  I brought it home and will 
look at it in more detail.  The strange thing was that it came back to 
life yesterday, just like a bad connection would cause.

73, Joe, K1ike


Eric Lemmon wrote:
 Joe,

 Use a magnifying glass to closely check every solder joint for cracks.
Some
 such cracks appear due to temperature cycling over time.  I have already
had
 the same problem, where a PA was dead at the site but worked fine on the
 bench.  It was around 40 degrees at the site, but around 70 at the bench.
 Sure enough, a tiny crack had opened on a PA power lead.  Reflowing solder
 at that connection cured the problem.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
   







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Be suspicious of the power control pot first.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question


 Hello Eric,

 Thanks for the tip.  Last night, the PA failed again.  I went to the
 site and found that the problem is in the 10 watt PA stage, possibly the
 IC chip or the power control transistor.  I brought it home and will
 look at it in more detail.  The strange thing was that it came back to
 life yesterday, just like a bad connection would cause.

 73, Joe, K1ike


 Eric Lemmon wrote:
 Joe,

 Use a magnifying glass to closely check every solder joint for cracks. 
 Some
 such cracks appear due to temperature cycling over time.  I have already 
 had
 the same problem, where a PA was dead at the site but worked fine on the
 bench.  It was around 40 degrees at the site, but around 70 at the bench.
 Sure enough, a tiny crack had opened on a PA power lead.  Reflowing 
 solder
 at that connection cured the problem.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY




 



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[Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-22 Thread Joe
Hello list dwellers,

I went to our repeater site today and found the MASTRII PA dead.  I 
could hear the exciter on my HT and the exciter output checked out OK at 
250mw.  There was good DC to the PA deck, but no current draw.  I 
checked the usual suspects, the 2 buss wires that carry the DC, the RCA 
phone jack input, loose connections. etc.  Nothing appeared to be bad.  
I pulled it out and put it on the bench and now it works.  The major 
symptom was no current draw.  I can't find a thing wrong at this point.

Any ideas?

73, Joe, K1ike






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Joe,

Use a magnifying glass to closely check every solder joint for cracks.  Some
such cracks appear due to temperature cycling over time.  I have already had
the same problem, where a PA was dead at the site but worked fine on the
bench.  It was around 40 degrees at the site, but around 70 at the bench.
Sure enough, a tiny crack had opened on a PA power lead.  Reflowing solder
at that connection cured the problem.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

Hello list dwellers,

I went to our repeater site today and found the MASTRII PA dead.  I 
could hear the exciter on my HT and the exciter output checked out OK at 
250mw.  There was good DC to the PA deck, but no current draw.  I 
checked the usual suspects, the 2 buss wires that carry the DC, the RCA 
phone jack input, loose connections. etc.  Nothing appeared to be bad.  
I pulled it out and put it on the bench and now it works.  The major 
symptom was no current draw.  I can't find a thing wrong at this point.

Any ideas?

73, Joe, K1ike






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