Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Yes, this is a good point to mention. However, it would become painfully 
obvious at some point.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up


 And it would be good to keep the wx receiver audio low enough that
 users can talk over it.  You wouldn't want your weather net taken out
 of service for two minutes during an active weather net.

 Laryn K8TVZ



 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 There won't be dead air. You'll hear weather. If you want the
 duration to be shorter than the preset of the receiver, have your
 controller shut it down sooner.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV


   - Original Message - 
   From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:10 PM
   Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up


   Well pooh!  I really don't want to tie up the repeater for
 X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe weather
 involved.



   VOX?



   Mike

   WM4B



   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
   Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



   It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you
 shorten the length with your controller.



   Chuck





 - Original Message - 

 From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)

 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM

 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



 Mark,



 I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals
 (specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of time
 and then drops.  Am I understanding that correctly?  If so, if the
 message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the repeater
 then just transmit dead air, or is the Ext. Alert forced low with the
 EOM signal.



 Dang. it's hard to test all this when the radio never goes off.
 2 weeks ago, I'd have been going off every 5 minutes!



 Mike

 WM4B



 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:59 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



 Mike,



 If your controller has the ability to use speaker audio take it
 off the external pc connection and run that into the receiver input of
 the controller. I have not opened my unit yet so not sure where the
 discriminator connection would be. The ext alert works great for the
 COS input.



 Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ)



 

 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



 Where are you grabbing audio from, Chuck?  My original thought
 was to pull it off the volume pot.



 Mike

 WM4B



 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:33 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



 Just to cover my faulty memory... it might be longer than 2
 minutes, but it is several minutes - longer than I need. I simply have
 the controller shut it off when I want - with the time-out-timer for
 that port.



 Chuck

   - Original Message - 

   From: Chuck Kelsey

   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:23 PM

   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers



   See below.





 - Original Message - 

 From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)

 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:07 PM

 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers



 I just picked up a Midland WR-100 weather receiver to
 replace my sickly Radio Shack unit here at the house.  I've been
 toying with interfacing a weather receiver with our repeater for a
 while and was considering getting another WR-100 (they're only $29
 locally) for that purpose, but I have a couple of questions.

 1)   I see on RBTIP page that Midland WX receivers have
 a built-in fault because they will mute before receiving the EOM
 signal from NWS.  Does anybody know if this is true of the WR-100?

 It doesn't follow the EOM. However, if you set it to tone
 it will stay active for about 2 minutes.



 2)  Does anybody know what types

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-31 Thread Ron Wright


For 2 minutes I would think a weather alert would be more helpful than 
what the net was covering.  All should hear the weather alert in most 
all cases.


73, ron, n9ee/r


Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Laryn Lohman wrote:

And it would be good to keep the wx receiver audio low enough that
users can talk over it.  You wouldn't want your weather net taken out
of service for two minutes during an active weather net.

Laryn K8TVZ

--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com , Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


There won't be dead air. You'll hear weather. If you want the

duration to be shorter than the preset of the receiver, have your
controller shut it down sooner.


Chuck WB2EDV

  - Original Message -   From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)   To: 
Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 
2008 8:10 PM   Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - 
follow up


  Well pooh!  I really don't want to tie up the repeater for

X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe weather
involved.




  VOX?


  Mike
  WM4B


  From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM   To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com   Subject: 
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



  It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you

shorten the length with your controller.




  Chuck




- Original Message -
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up


Mark,


I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals

(specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of time
and then drops.  Am I understanding that correctly?  If so, if the
message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the repeater
then just transmit dead air, or is the Ext. Alert forced low with the
EOM signal.




Dang. it's hard to test all this when the radio never goes off.

2 weeks ago, I'd have been going off every 5 minutes!




Mike
WM4B


From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



Mike,


If your controller has the ability to use speaker audio take it

off the external pc connection and run that into the receiver input of
the controller. I have not opened my unit yet so not sure where the
discriminator connection would be. The ext alert works great for the
COS input.




Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ)



 - - - - - -


From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer 
(WM4B)
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



Where are you grabbing audio from, Chuck?  My original thought

was to pull it off the volume pot.




Mike
WM4B


From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up



Just to cover my faulty memory... it might be longer than 2

minutes, but it is several minutes - longer than I need. I simply have
the controller shut it off when I want - with the time-out-timer for
that port.




Chuck
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Kelsey
  To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers


  See below.




- Original Message -
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Depending on the circumstances, we'll probably turn the receiver off during
a weather net and let the net control pass the info on.  OTOH, it'd be easy
enough to switch in a voltage divider to allow two different audio levels.

 

P.S.  The club may be passing the hat to buy a WX-200 from CAT instead of
going the cheaper route.  We've had good luck with the membership doing this
before and it keeps the club budget intact.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

 

And it would be good to keep the wx receiver audio low enough that
users can talk over it. You wouldn't want your weather net taken out
of service for two minutes during an active weather net.

Laryn K8TVZ

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 There won't be dead air. You'll hear weather. If you want the
duration to be shorter than the preset of the receiver, have your
controller shut it down sooner.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:10 PM
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 Well pooh! I really don't want to tie up the repeater for
X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe weather
involved. 
 
 
 
 VOX?
 
 
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
 
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 
 It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you
shorten the length with your controller.
 
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM
 
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 
 Mark,
 
 
 
 I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals
(specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of time
and then drops. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, if the
message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the repeater
then just transmit dead air, or is the Ext. Alert forced low with the
EOM signal.
 
 
 
 Dang. it's hard to test all this when the radio never goes off.
2 weeks ago, I'd have been going off every 5 minutes!
 
 
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
 
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:59 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 
 Mike,
 
 
 
 If your controller has the ability to use speaker audio take it
off the external pc connection and run that into the receiver input of
the controller. I have not opened my unit yet so not sure where the
discriminator connection would be. The ext alert works great for the
COS input. 
 
 
 
 Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ)
 
 

--
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer
(WM4B)
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 
 Where are you grabbing audio from, Chuck? My original thought
was to pull it off the volume pot.
 
 
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
 
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:33 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 
 Just to cover my faulty memory... it might be longer than 2
minutes, but it is several minutes - longer than I need. I simply have
the controller shut it off when I want - with the time-out-timer for
that port.
 
 
 
 Chuck
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Chuck Kelsey 
 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
 
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:23 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [Repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-31 Thread ks4ec
I am actually working on this, this weekend. I am going to set the 
WX alert to interupt all traffic, but, use a simple * to shut it up, 
also since I can now tell weather it is a watch, warning, or 
statement from the alarm inputs, I may let a statement or watch get 
recorded and played when there is a break and only let warnings 
break in.

Still working out the details. My main concern in South Florida is 
tornados and severe T-storms, most else, like hurricanes we already 
know are coming.

When I get it working I can post a summary of what I did for all to 
see if someone would think it would be worth it.

Rob - KS4EC


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Depending on the circumstances, we'll probably turn the receiver 
off during
 a weather net and let the net control pass the info on.  OTOH, 
it'd be easy
 enough to switch in a voltage divider to allow two different audio 
levels.
 
  
 
 P.S.  The club may be passing the hat to buy a WX-200 from CAT 
instead of
 going the cheaper route.  We've had good luck with the membership 
doing this
 before and it keeps the club budget intact.
 
  
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:18 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up
 
  
 
 And it would be good to keep the wx receiver audio low enough that
 users can talk over it. You wouldn't want your weather net taken 
out
 of service for two minutes during an active weather net.
 
 Laryn K8TVZ
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Chuck Kelsey 
wb2edv@
 wrote:
 
  There won't be dead air. You'll hear weather. If you want the
 duration to be shorter than the preset of the receiver, have your
 controller shut it down sooner.
  
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:10 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  Well pooh! I really don't want to tie up the repeater for
 X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe 
weather
 involved. 
  
  
  
  VOX?
  
  
  
  Mike
  
  WM4B
  
  
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck 
Kelsey
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you
 shorten the length with your controller.
  
  
  
  Chuck
  
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM
  
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  Mark,
  
  
  
  I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals
 (specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of 
time
 and then drops. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, if the
 message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the 
repeater
 then just transmit dead air, or is the Ext. Alert forced low with 
the
 EOM signal.
  
  
  
  Dang. it's hard to test all this when the radio never goes off.
 2 weeks ago, I'd have been going off every 5 minutes!
  
  
  
  Mike
  
  WM4B
  
  
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike 
Mullarkey
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:59 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  Mike,
  
  
  
  If your controller has the ability to use speaker audio take it
 off the external pc connection and run that into the receiver 
input of
 the controller. I have not opened my unit yet so not sure where the
 discriminator connection would be. The ext alert works great for 
the
 COS input. 
  
  
  
  Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ)
  
  
 
 --
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike 
Besemer
 (WM4B)
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:03 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  Where are you grabbing audio from

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Please do!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ks4ec
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:59 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

 

I am actually working on this, this weekend. I am going to set the 
WX alert to interupt all traffic, but, use a simple * to shut it up, 
also since I can now tell weather it is a watch, warning, or 
statement from the alarm inputs, I may let a statement or watch get 
recorded and played when there is a break and only let warnings 
break in.

Still working out the details. My main concern in South Florida is 
tornados and severe T-storms, most else, like hurricanes we already 
know are coming.

When I get it working I can post a summary of what I did for all to 
see if someone would think it would be worth it.

Rob - KS4EC

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Depending on the circumstances, we'll probably turn the receiver 
off during
 a weather net and let the net control pass the info on. OTOH, 
it'd be easy
 enough to switch in a voltage divider to allow two different audio 
levels.
 
 
 
 P.S. The club may be passing the hat to buy a WX-200 from CAT 
instead of
 going the cheaper route. We've had good luck with the membership 
doing this
 before and it keeps the club budget intact.
 
 
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:18 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
 
 And it would be good to keep the wx receiver audio low enough that
 users can talk over it. You wouldn't want your weather net taken 
out
 of service for two minutes during an active weather net.
 
 Laryn K8TVZ
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Chuck Kelsey 
wb2edv@
 wrote:
 
  There won't be dead air. You'll hear weather. If you want the
 duration to be shorter than the preset of the receiver, have your
 controller shut it down sooner.
  
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:10 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  Well pooh! I really don't want to tie up the repeater for
 X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe 
weather
 involved. 
  
  
  
  VOX?
  
  
  
  Mike
  
  WM4B
  
  
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck 
Kelsey
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you
 shorten the length with your controller.
  
  
  
  Chuck
  
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM
  
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  Mark,
  
  
  
  I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals
 (specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of 
time
 and then drops. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, if the
 message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the 
repeater
 then just transmit dead air, or is the Ext. Alert forced low with 
the
 EOM signal.
  
  
  
  Dang. it's hard to test all this when the radio never goes off.
 2 weeks ago, I'd have been going off every 5 minutes!
  
  
  
  Mike
  
  WM4B
  
  
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
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Mullarkey
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:59 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
  
  
  
  Mike,
  
  
  
  If your

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-30 Thread Laryn Lohman
And it would be good to keep the wx receiver audio low enough that
users can talk over it.  You wouldn't want your weather net taken out
of service for two minutes during an active weather net.

Laryn K8TVZ



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 There won't be dead air. You'll hear weather. If you want the
duration to be shorter than the preset of the receiver, have your
controller shut it down sooner.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:10 PM
   Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
 
   Well pooh!  I really don't want to tie up the repeater for
X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe weather
involved.  
 

 
   VOX?
 

 
   Mike
 
   WM4B
 

 
   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
   Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 

 
   It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you
shorten the length with your controller.
 

 
   Chuck
 

 

 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM
 
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
  
 
 Mark,
 
  
 
 I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals
(specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of time
and then drops.  Am I understanding that correctly?  If so, if the
message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the repeater
then just transmit dead air, or is the Ext. Alert forced low with the
EOM signal.
 
  
 
 Dang. it's hard to test all this when the radio never goes off.
 2 weeks ago, I'd have been going off every 5 minutes!
 
  
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
  
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:59 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
  
 
 Mike,
 
  
 
 If your controller has the ability to use speaker audio take it
off the external pc connection and run that into the receiver input of
the controller. I have not opened my unit yet so not sure where the
discriminator connection would be. The ext alert works great for the
COS input. 
 
  
 
 Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ)
 
 


 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
  
 
 Where are you grabbing audio from, Chuck?  My original thought
was to pull it off the volume pot.
 
  
 
 Mike
 
 WM4B
 
  
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:33 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up
 
  
 
 Just to cover my faulty memory... it might be longer than 2
minutes, but it is several minutes - longer than I need. I simply have
the controller shut it off when I want - with the time-out-timer for
that port.
 
  
 
 Chuck
 
   - Original Message - 
 
   From: Chuck Kelsey 
 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 
   Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:23 PM
 
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers
 

 
   See below.
 

 

 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:07 PM
 
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers
 
  
 
 I just picked up a Midland WR-100 weather receiver to
replace my sickly Radio Shack unit here at the house.  I've been
toying with interfacing a weather receiver with our repeater for a
while and was considering getting another WR-100 (they're only $29
locally) for that purpose, but I have a couple of questions.
 
 1)   I see on RBTIP page that Midland WX receivers have
a built-in fault because they will mute before receiving the EOM
signal from NWS.  Does anybody know if this is true of the WR-100?
 
 It doesn't follow the EOM. However, if you set it to tone
it will stay active for about 2 minutes.
 
  
 
 2)  Does anybody know what types of alerts will trigger
the External Alert function on the receiver?  Obviously  I want to
capture Watches and Warnings, 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-29 Thread Ron Wright


Unit price is high and appears have to buy serial cable and programming 
software.  One can get a SAME receiver for lot less money and these have 
on board keyboard programming, but I did note the receiver had a serial 
port, I guess for programming, but could other things be using the port. 
I really don't like requiring a computer to set up something like this.


However, did it put out data to allow for interfacing to another unit, 
APRS/Packet, repeater, etc???


Most of the features are like most SAME receivers.  However, most 
receivers allow for much more than 4 counties and I need this.  My 
interest would be what the serial port puts out.


73, ron, n9ee/r


Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Wed, May 28, 2008 at  8:57 PM, Thomas Kinard wrote:

--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com , Daron Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:






We tried a variety of off the shelf receivers, the WX-100 doesn't go
http://www.emergenc yalertradio. com/5120. pdfoff 
http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/5120.pdfoff on

tests so that was worthless.  We tried a couple others and finally

spend the

money on the Cat WX-200 and just standardized on that.  It does real

well,

it's a bit more spendy, but it does a regular drop and insert into

the audio

path making it impossible to miss.  We have 6 of them on our

repeaters, very

nice.


73


N7HQR


www.ocrg.org

Ever look at one of these? Used it for years at home until a power
surge took it out. Good little box. But, never hooked it to a
repeater. Responds to start and ending tones. Software to program it
is free online from them. Here's a link. Hope this helps.

http://www.emergenc yalertradio. com/ 
http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/
http://www.emergenc yalertradio. com/5120. pdf 
http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/5120.pdf


73
WA0RTU

 http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/5120.pdf



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Thomas Kinard
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Daron Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
 
  
 
 We tried a variety of off the shelf receivers, the WX-100 doesn't go
http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/5120.pdfoff on
 tests so that was worthless.  We tried a couple others and finally
spend the
 money on the Cat WX-200 and just standardized on that.  It does real
well,
 it's a bit more spendy, but it does a regular drop and insert into
the audio
 path making it impossible to miss.  We have 6 of them on our
repeaters, very
 nice.
 
  
 
73
 
  
 
 N7HQR
 
  
 
 www.ocrg.org

Ever look at one of these? Used it for years at home until a power
surge took it out. Good little box. But, never hooked it to a
repeater. Responds to start and ending tones. Software to program it
is free online from them. Here's a link. Hope this helps.

http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/
http://www.emergencyalertradio.com/5120.pdf

73
WA0RTU