RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Both. There was a "transmitter on" beep (that almost nobody heard), and there was a "transmitter off" beep that everyone heard - with about 100Hz difference in the two tone frequencies. Read this: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quindar_tones> What it doesn't mention is that there was an audio notch filter that took out the beep from the audio fed to the actual transmitter. Mike WA6ILQ (who worked at NASA -JPL in the 1970s, plus two additional contract gigs, one in the 80s and one in the 90s) At 08:02 PM 07/13/10, you wrote: Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG Nothing if you're name is roger. Smile emoticon From: <mailto:llhorl...@gmail.com>Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 <<mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com>skipp...@yahoo.com> wrote: <>
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
No it doesn't. and don't call me Shirley! Kb0wlf > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MCH > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:19 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops > > "We have clearance. Over." "That's Clarence Over" > > Just doesn't work as well in print, does it? :-) > > Joe M. > > La Rue Communications wrote: > > > > > > "We have clearance Clarence." > > > > "Roger, Roger, whats our vector, Victor?" > > > > John Hymes > > La Rue Communications > > 10 S. Aurora Street > > Stockton, CA 95202 > > http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn > > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Mike Morris <mailto:wa6i...@verizon.net> > > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > > *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 11:07 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial > radio > > shops > > > > > > > > Didn't Lloyd Bridges work that one to death in "Airplane" ? > > > > At 07:43 PM 07/13/10, you wrote: > > > >> > >> Nothing if you're name is roger. Smile emoticon > >> > >> > >> *From:* Larry Horlick <mailto:llhorl...@gmail.com> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM > >> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > >> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial > >> radio shops > >> > >> Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 >> <mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > >> > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > >> > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > >> > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > >> > at camp. > >> > >> If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program > >> the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put > the > >> radios on GMRS Frequencies. > >> > >> Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level > >> programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other > >> stuff gets the nominal rated power. > >> > >> FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to > >> find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid > >> roger beeps > >> > >> s. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: > 07/30/10 06:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
"We have clearance. Over." "That's Clarence Over" Just doesn't work as well in print, does it? :-) Joe M. La Rue Communications wrote: > > > "We have clearance Clarence." > > "Roger, Roger, whats our vector, Victor?" > > John Hymes > La Rue Communications > 10 S. Aurora Street > Stockton, CA 95202 > http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mike Morris <mailto:wa6i...@verizon.net> > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 11:07 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio > shops > > > > Didn't Lloyd Bridges work that one to death in "Airplane" ? > > At 07:43 PM 07/13/10, you wrote: > >> >> Nothing if you're name is roger. Smile emoticon >> >> >> *From:* Larry Horlick <mailto:llhorl...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM >> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial >> radio shops >> >> Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 > <mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number >> > of church youth camps activities asked you to program >> > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR >> > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range >> > at camp. >> >> If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program >> the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the >> radios on GMRS Frequencies. >> >> Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level >> programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other >> stuff gets the nominal rated power. >> >> FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to >> find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid >> roger beeps >> >> s. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
"We have clearance Clarence." "Roger, Roger, whats our vector, Victor?" John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Didn't Lloyd Bridges work that one to death in "Airplane" ? At 07:43 PM 07/13/10, you wrote: Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid roger beeps s. <<1130f514.gif>>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Didn't Lloyd Bridges work that one to death in "Airplane" ? At 07:43 PM 07/13/10, you wrote: Nothing if you're name is roger. Smile emoticon From: <mailto:llhorl...@gmail.com>Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 <<mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com>skipp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid roger beeps s. <>
[Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Nope, wouldn't do it. It violates the rules under which we operate. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr wrote: > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:23 PM, KD5SFA wrote: > > > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > > at camp. > > > > My gut is to tell him no... > > > > Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a > > little extra thought on the subject... > > > > Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my > > Volunteer FD. > > > > 73, > > Jon > > No. I'd kindly explain that no matter how small, they would be putting me, > my livelihood, and my business at risk of large fines by a Federal agency, > and an easily-searchable violation stored online "forever" as long as I ran > my business, that would become my "reputation". > > -- > Nate Duehr, WY0X > n...@... >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
On 7/14/2010 7:17 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: > > > On 7/13/2010 10:20 PM, tracomm wrote: >> >> >> Didn't one of the large radio dealers recently get a hefty fine for >> programming radios on frequencies that the user did not have a license >> for ?? >> >> CJD >> > There are several examples of this. Not recent (15 os years ago?) a > shop renting radios to a movie crew programmed them in the ham band. > When contacted about this by local hams, the movie group and the rental > shop both said buzz off. > > When the FCC stepped in, the movie set said "they are licensed" and > pointed at the shop. **BOTH** were provided "show cause" letters and > subsequently fined. > > It's not only the programmer of the radios that risks fines and other > action from the FCC. > Maybe 'Die-Hard'? If you look carefully, they are using Kenwood TH-41A's.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
On 7/13/2010 11:20 PM, tracomm wrote: > Didn't one of the large radio dealers recently get a hefty fine for > programming radios on frequencies that the user did not have a license > for ?? > > CJD Yup. Not the same situation as this, but close. And yes, it was a dealer that has a national presence... And on the original topic, note that IF the chief (himself, not the dept) gets a GMRS license, he can use his UHF radio on the LOWER FRS freqs (462., not the 467's) at 4W. Communications between GMRS and FRS units is legal on those channels.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
On 7/13/2010 10:20 PM, tracomm wrote: > > > Didn't one of the large radio dealers recently get a hefty fine for > programming radios on frequencies that the user did not have a license > for ?? > > CJD > There are several examples of this. Not recent (15 os years ago?) a shop renting radios to a movie crew programmed them in the ham band. When contacted about this by local hams, the movie group and the rental shop both said buzz off. When the FCC stepped in, the movie set said "they are licensed" and pointed at the shop. **BOTH** were provided "show cause" letters and subsequently fined. It's not only the programmer of the radios that risks fines and other action from the FCC. -- mailto:o...@ozindfw.net Oz POB 93167 Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport)
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Had a Member of the Group send Me a Link direct , I thought I would share it then We can get back to repeater Building before We get hollered at lol http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/quindar.html Don KA9QJG From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops That makes sense. I wonder if the ground crew could trick the ground receiver into un-muting the audio from the shuttle so that they can listen in on what's going on. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "Martin Flynn" mailto:maflynn%40theflynn.org> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:16 PM To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops > Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the "Quindar tones" > was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. > > ka9qjg wrote: >> >> >> Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how >> it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission >> >> Don >> >> KA9QJ _
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
That makes sense. I wonder if the ground crew could trick the ground receiver into un-muting the audio from the shuttle so that they can listen in on what's going on. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "Martin Flynn" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops > Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the "Quindar tones" > was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. > > ka9qjg wrote: >> >> >> Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how >> it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission >> >> Don >> >> KA9QJ >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
[Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Didn't one of the large radio dealers recently get a hefty fine for programming radios on frequencies that the user did not have a license for ?? CJD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "KD5SFA" wrote: > > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. > > My gut is to tell him no... > > Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a > little extra thought on the subject... > > Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my > Volunteer FD. > > 73, > Jon >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
That would make some interesting research. Honestly I like having my repeater controller do a beep at a lower audio level when someone un-keys. Low enough to be heard, but not be a nuisance. If someone is closer to the repeater you may not know if they've un-keyed until the repeater itself drops out. With a courtesy tone (as they're called now) it lets the other person know you've un-keyed and they can key up again. But I'll admit some of these beeps that the bubble packs and CBs have are really annoying. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 From: ka9qjg Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: <>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the "Quindar tones" was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. ka9qjg wrote: > > > Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how > it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission > > Don > > KA9QJ >
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG Nothing if you're name is roger. Smile emoticon From: Larry Horlick <mailto:llhorl...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: <>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid roger beeps s. <>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: > > > > > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > > at camp. > > If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program > the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the > radios on GMRS Frequencies. > > Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level > programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other > stuff gets the nominal rated power. > > FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to > find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid > roger beeps > > s. > > >
[Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
> If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid roger beeps s.
