[Repeater-Builder] Re: temperature control circuit

2007-01-11 Thread no6b
At 1/8/2007 15:22, you wrote:
Hi Bob,
I would like to get a copy of that circuit if you have one available.

Thanks,

OK, here is the circuit I used.  The original National Semiconductor 
circuit had a 30 K resistor in series with a 400 uF cap., both in parallel 
with the 100 K resistor on the input of the 1st LM324 section.  I found 
that combo to actually destabilize the operation of the controller for this 
particular application, so I removed them  changed the 2 uF cap in series 
with the 10 megohm resistor to 5 uF.  That cap is a non-polarized paper 
capacitor; I believe a 4.7 uF non-polarized ceramic should work as well.

The 1/4 watt heater resistor  LM34 temperature sensor are mounted on the 
same side of the crystal but separated as far apart as possible.

Bob NO6B



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: temperature control circuit

2007-01-11 Thread Tony King - W4ZT
Thanks for sharing your circuit, Bob...

Have you done any measurements to see how constant the temperature is 
maintained over time? Looks like a neat little circuit for a couple of 
other applications.

73, Tony W4ZT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 1/8/2007 15:22, you wrote:
 Hi Bob,
I would like to get a copy of that circuit if you have one available.

 Thanks,
 
 OK, here is the circuit I used.  The original National Semiconductor 
 circuit had a 30 K resistor in series with a 400 uF cap., both in parallel 
 with the 100 K resistor on the input of the 1st LM324 section.  I found 
 that combo to actually destabilize the operation of the controller for this 
 particular application, so I removed them  changed the 2 uF cap in series 
 with the 10 megohm resistor to 5 uF.  That cap is a non-polarized paper 
 capacitor; I believe a 4.7 uF non-polarized ceramic should work as well.
 
 The 1/4 watt heater resistor  LM34 temperature sensor are mounted on the 
 same side of the crystal but separated as far apart as possible.
 
 Bob NO6B


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: temperature control circuit

2007-01-11 Thread Bob Dengler
At 1/11/2007 08:38 AM, you wrote:
Thanks for sharing your circuit, Bob...

Have you done any measurements to see how constant the temperature is
maintained over time? Looks like a neat little circuit for a couple of
other applications.

73, Tony W4ZT

Measuring the LM34's output, it was very good: less than 0.2 °F change.

Keep in mind that other applications will probably require a different 
feedback loop.  The 400 µF cap  30 k resistor I removed across the 100 k 
resistor were probably for controlling much larger systems with longer time 
lags between the heater  sensor.

Bob NO6B




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: temperature control circuit

2007-01-11 Thread Bob Dengler
At 1/11/2007 06:48 AM, you wrote:

The 1/4 watt heater resistor  LM34 temperature sensor are mounted on the
same side of the crystal but separated as far apart as possible.

I forgot to mention that thermally conductive epoxy was used to mount the 
LM34  51 ohm 1/4 watt heater resistor onto the crystal.

Bob NO6B




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: temperature control circuit

2007-01-11 Thread Kevin Custer

This thread is now a web article:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/construction-proj/no6b-crystal-heater.html

Kevin Custer

Bob Dengler wrote:

At 1/11/2007 06:48 AM, you wrote:
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The 1/4 watt heater resistor  LM34 temperature sensor are mounted on the
same side of the crystal but separated as far apart as possible.



I forgot to mention that thermally conductive epoxy was used to mount the 
LM34  51 ohm 1/4 watt heater resistor onto the crystal.


Bob NO6B