[Repeater-Builder] need some help

[Donnie Q]

I have just bought a 440 machine it is a ge master pro 2 in a full 
size cabinet. It has a rc-10 controller which i am going ot change. 
what i need is some input on preamps for the 440. and also 
controllers. maybe place some links up or send them to my email at 
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[Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Rich Summers]

I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice scrambler in a radio.
What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a button so that the
activation lead goes to ground and when this happens I need an led
indication that the unit has been activated. 
I also need the led to turn off when the button is pressed again. This
deactivates the board and the radio returns to normal mode.
I need this in a small box.
Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this particular application?

Thanks,

Rich

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[MCH]

A simple flip flop chip should work nicely.

Joe M.

Rich Summers wrote:
> I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice scrambler in a radio.
> What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a button so that the
> activation lead goes to ground and when this happens I need an led
> indication that the unit has been activated. 
> I also need the led to turn off when the button is pressed again. This
> deactivates the board and the radio returns to normal mode.
> I need this in a small box.
> Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this particular application?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[MCH]

For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?

Joe M.

Rich Summers wrote:
> I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice scrambler in a radio.
> What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a button so that the
> activation lead goes to ground and when this happens I need an led
> indication that the unit has been activated. 
> I also need the led to turn off when the button is pressed again. This
> deactivates the board and the radio returns to normal mode.
> I need this in a small box.
> Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this particular application?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Chuck Kelsey]

Or a "push-on" "push-off" switch if a toggle isn't acceptable.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "MCH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help


> For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
>
> Joe M.
>
> Rich Summers wrote:
>> I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice scrambler in a radio.
>> What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a button so that the
>> activation lead goes to ground and when this happens I need an led
>> indication that the unit has been activated.
>> I also need the led to turn off when the button is pressed again. This
>> deactivates the board and the radio returns to normal mode.
>> I need this in a small box.
>> Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this particular application?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Rich Summers]

I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
switch off the board. This contact will be using an
enable wire from the board and another wire that is a
ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
that has 2 spst contacts?
Thanks. 
--- MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> Rich Summers wrote:
> > I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice
> scrambler in a radio.
> > What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
> button so that the
> > activation lead goes to ground and when this
> happens I need an led
> > indication that the unit has been activated. 
> > I also need the led to turn off when the button is
> pressed again. This
> > deactivates the board and the radio returns to
> normal mode.
> > I need this in a small box.
> > Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this
> particular application?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[MCH]

I would see what those wires are doing on the board. It may be easier to 
interface to that point rather than the inputs.

Joe M.

Rich Summers wrote:
> I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
> enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
> turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
> switch off the board. This contact will be using an
> enable wire from the board and another wire that is a
> ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
> was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
> that has 2 spst contacts?
> Thanks. 
> --- MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Rich Summers wrote:
>>> I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice
>> scrambler in a radio.
>>> What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
>> button so that the
>>> activation lead goes to ground and when this
>> happens I need an led
>>> indication that the unit has been activated. 
>>> I also need the led to turn off when the button is
>> pressed again. This
>>> deactivates the board and the radio returns to
>> normal mode.
>>> I need this in a small box.
>>> Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this
>> particular application?
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Ron Wright]

One can get push button switches that latch on when pushed/latch off 
when pushed again.  IF you want just digital mode while switch is 
pressed then no problem.  If you want to make sure the radio stays in 
analog until commanded requiring the op to hold during digital then a 
momentary switch can be used.


A "flip flop" or D-Type  latch like the 74LS74, a 30 years old part, can 
be made to work, but unless you are driving with some electronics to 
automatically change between digita/analog it would be over kill.  Also 
sounds like the latch is still going to a switch to flip the flip-flop 
and with switch bounce one would need a de-bounce circuit.  A 74LS123 
one shot is good for this.  However, still over kill.  We could also do 
with a CPU like the PIC processors, etc.  Fun to work with and would 
learn something, but WAY OVER KILL, hi.


A switch is easy no brainer here unless there are othe issues.  Requires 
no power, just some wiring and about every type and size of switch one 
can imagine is on the market.


73, ron, n9ee/r




On Sun, May 11, 2008 at  8:22 PM, Rich Summers wrote:

I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
switch off the board. This contact will be using an
enable wire from the board and another wire that is a
ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
that has 2 spst contacts?
Thanks.
--- MCH < [EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:


For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
Joe M.
Rich Summers wrote:

I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice

scrambler in a radio.

What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a

button so that the

activation lead goes to ground and when this

happens I need an led
indication that the unit has been activated. I also need the led to 
turn off when the button is

pressed again. This

deactivates the board and the radio returns to

normal mode.
I need this in a small box. Does anyone have a circuit I could build 
for this

particular application?


Thanks,
Rich


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[n9wys]

Couldn't you use a toggle/push-button switch if it was momentary
(spring-loaded)?  
(i.e. "push-on, push-off")

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Summers
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
switch off the board. This contact will be using an
enable wire from the board and another wire that is a
ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
that has 2 spst contacts?
Thanks. 
--- MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> Rich Summers wrote:
> > I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice
> scrambler in a radio.
> > What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
> button so that the
> > activation lead goes to ground and when this
> happens I need an led
> > indication that the unit has been activated. 
> > I also need the led to turn off when the button is
> pressed again. This
> > deactivates the board and the radio returns to
> normal mode.
> > I need this in a small box.
> > Does anyone have a circuit I could build for this
> particular application?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 



 


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Rich Summers]

Yes I could but, I would need some sort of indicator
light to let the person know that the board had been
enabled.

Rich

--- n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Couldn't you use a toggle/push-button switch if it
> was momentary
> (spring-loaded)?  
> (i.e. "push-on, push-off")
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Rich Summers
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:23 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help
> 
> I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
> enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
> turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
> switch off the board. This contact will be using an
> enable wire from the board and another wire that is
> a
> ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
> was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
> that has 2 spst contacts?
> Thanks. 
> --- MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
> > 
> > Joe M.
> > 
> > Rich Summers wrote:
> > > I need to build a simple circuit to enable a
> voice
> > scrambler in a radio.
> > > What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
> > button so that the
> > > activation lead goes to ground and when this
> > happens I need an led
> > > indication that the unit has been activated. 
> > > I also need the led to turn off when the button
> is
> > pressed again. This
> > > deactivates the board and the radio returns to
> > normal mode.
> > > I need this in a small box.
> > > Does anyone have a circuit I could build for
> this
> > particular application?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Rich
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Rich Summers]

Ron...That is exactly what I could use as long as it
had some type of light to let the person know that the
board has been enabled.

Rich

--- Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> One can get push button switches that latch on when
> pushed/latch off 
> when pushed again.  IF you want just digital mode
> while switch is 
> pressed then no problem.  If you want to make sure
> the radio stays in 
> analog until commanded requiring the op to hold
> during digital then a 
> momentary switch can be used.
> 
> A "flip flop" or D-Type  latch like the 74LS74, a 30
> years old part, can 
> be made to work, but unless you are driving with
> some electronics to 
> automatically change between digita/analog it would
> be over kill.  Also 
> sounds like the latch is still going to a switch to
> flip the flip-flop 
> and with switch bounce one would need a de-bounce
> circuit.  A 74LS123 
> one shot is good for this.  However, still over
> kill.  We could also do 
> with a CPU like the PIC processors, etc.  Fun to
> work with and would 
> learn something, but WAY OVER KILL, hi.
> 
> A switch is easy no brainer here unless there are
> othe issues.  Requires 
> no power, just some wiring and about every type and
> size of switch one 
> can imagine is on the market.
> 
> 73, ron, n9ee/r
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at  8:22 PM, Rich Summers
> wrote:
> 
> I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
> enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
> turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
> switch off the board. This contact will be using an
> enable wire from the board and another wire that is
> a
> ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
> was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
> that has 2 spst contacts?
> Thanks.
> --- MCH < [EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
> 
> > For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
> > Joe M.
> > Rich Summers wrote:
> >> I need to build a simple circuit to enable a
> voice
> > scrambler in a radio.
> >> What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
> > button so that the
> >> activation lead goes to ground and when this
> > happens I need an led
> >> indication that the unit has been activated. I
> also need the led to 
> >> turn off when the button is
> > pressed again. This
> >> deactivates the board and the radio returns to
> > normal mode.
> >> I need this in a small box. Does anyone have a
> circuit I could build 
> >> for this
> > particular application?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rich
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[n9wys]

There must be some point on the device that will show power when enabled?
Maybe pick off that point and either attach an LED, or maybe a relay
connected to an LED... or maybe a DPDT switch, one side connected for your
indicator.

Just "thinking out loud."

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Rich Summers

Yes I could but, I would need some sort of indicator
light to let the person know that the board had been
enabled.

Rich

--- n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Couldn't you use a toggle/push-button switch if it
> was momentary
> (spring-loaded)?  
> (i.e. "push-on, push-off")
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Rich Summers
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:23 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help
> 
> I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
> enable the scramble board needs to be momentary to
> turn on the board and then a momentary contact to
> switch off the board. This contact will be using an
> enable wire from the board and another wire that is
> a
> ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I
> was also wondering if there is a  push button switch
> that has 2 spst contacts?
> Thanks. 
> --- MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
> > 
> > Joe M.
> > 
> > Rich Summers wrote:
> > > I need to build a simple circuit to enable a
> voice
> > scrambler in a radio.
> > > What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
> > button so that the
> > > activation lead goes to ground and when this
> > happens I need an led
> > > indication that the unit has been activated. 
> > > I also need the led to turn off when the button
> is
> > pressed again. This
> > > deactivates the board and the radio returns to
> > normal mode.
> > > I need this in a small box.
> > > Does anyone have a circuit I could build for
> this
> > particular application?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Rich
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Ron Wright]

Rich,

Now you are talking about some power for the light.  Best use an LED 
that draws low current, 5 ma.


Not knowing what you are connecting to, it might have enough current to 
drive the LED.


Are you simply grounding an input, appling power to an input, etc. Do 
you have details of what you are connecting to???


73, ron, n9ee/r


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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at  2:29 PM, Rich Summers wrote:

Ron...That is exactly what I could use as long as it
had some type of light to let the person know that the
board has been enabled.

Rich

--- Ron Wright < [EMAIL PROTECTED] net  > 
wrote:




One can get push button switches that latch on when pushed/latch off 
when pushed again.  IF you want just digital mode while switch is 
pressed then no problem.  If you want to make sure the radio stays in 
analog until commanded requiring the op to hold during digital then a 
momentary switch can be used.
A "flip flop" or D-Type  latch like the 74LS74, a 30 years old part, 
can be made to work, but unless you are driving with some electronics 
to automatically change between digita/analog it would be over kill. 
Also sounds like the latch is still going to a switch to flip the 
flip-flop and with switch bounce one would need a de-bounce circuit. 
A 74LS123 one shot is good for this.  However, still over kill.  We 
could also do with a CPU like the PIC processors, etc.  Fun to work 
with and would learn something, but WAY OVER KILL, hi.
A switch is easy no brainer here unless there are othe issues. 
Requires no power, just some wiring and about every type and size of 
switch one can imagine is on the market.

73, ron, n9ee/r



On Sun, May 11, 2008 at  8:22 PM, Rich Summers wrote:
I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to enable the scramble 
board needs to be momentary to turn on the board and then a momentary 
contact to switch off the board. This contact will be using an enable 
wire from the board and another wire that is a ground. I think a flip 
flop MAY be the way to go. I was also wondering if there is a  push 
button switch that has 2 spst contacts? Thanks. --- MCH < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote:
For that matter, why not just a toggle switch? Joe M. Rich Summers 
wrote:

I need to build a simple circuit to enable a

voice

scrambler in a radio.

What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a

button so that the

activation lead goes to ground and when this

happens I need an led

indication that the unit has been activated. I

also need the led to

turn off when the button is

pressed again. This

deactivates the board and the radio returns to

normal mode.

I need this in a small box. Does anyone have a

circuit I could build

for this

particular application?


Thanks, Rich

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

[Rich Summers]

Ron...There will be 2 wires from the board 1 will be
ground and the other will be the one that has to
momentarily connect to the ground to enable the board.
The led can be powered by any source that I will
supply.

Rich

--- Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Rich,
> 
> Now you are talking about some power for the light. 
> Best use an LED 
> that draws low current, 5 ma.
> 
> Not knowing what you are connecting to, it might
> have enough current to 
> drive the LED.
> 
> Are you simply grounding an input, appling power to
> an input, etc. Do 
> you have details of what you are connecting to???
> 
> 73, ron, n9ee/r
> 
> 
> Ron Wright, N9EE
> 
> 727-376-6575
> 
> MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
> 
> Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
> 
> No tone, all are welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at  2:29 PM, Rich Summers
> wrote:
> 
> Ron...That is exactly what I could use as long as it
> had some type of light to let the person know that
> the
> board has been enabled.
> 
> Rich
> 
> --- Ron Wright < [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
>  > 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > One can get push button switches that latch on
> when pushed/latch off 
> > when pushed again.  IF you want just digital mode
> while switch is 
> > pressed then no problem.  If you want to make sure
> the radio stays in 
> > analog until commanded requiring the op to hold
> during digital then a 
> > momentary switch can be used.
> > A "flip flop" or D-Type  latch like the 74LS74, a
> 30 years old part, 
> > can be made to work, but unless you are driving
> with some electronics 
> > to automatically change between digita/analog it
> would be over kill. 
> > Also sounds like the latch is still going to a
> switch to flip the 
> > flip-flop and with switch bounce one would need a
> de-bounce circuit. 
> > A 74LS123 one shot is good for this.  However,
> still over kill.  We 
> > could also do with a CPU like the PIC processors,
> etc.  Fun to work 
> > with and would learn something, but WAY OVER KILL,
> hi.
> > A switch is easy no brainer here unless there are
> othe issues. 
> > Requires no power, just some wiring and about
> every type and size of 
> > switch one can imagine is on the market.
> > 73, ron, n9ee/r
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at  8:22 PM, Rich Summers
> wrote:
> > I can't use a toggle switch because the contact to
> enable the scramble 
> > board needs to be momentary to turn on the board
> and then a momentary 
> > contact to switch off the board. This contact will
> be using an enable 
> > wire from the board and another wire that is a
> ground. I think a flip 
> > flop MAY be the way to go. I was also wondering if
> there is a  push 
> > button switch that has 2 spst contacts? Thanks.
> --- MCH < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >    > > wrote:
> >> For that matter, why not just a toggle switch?
> Joe M. Rich Summers 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I need to build a simple circuit to enable a
> > voice
> >> scrambler in a radio.
> >>> What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a
> >> button so that the
> >>> activation lead goes to ground and when this
> >> happens I need an led
> >>> indication that the unit has been activated. I
> > also need the led to
> >>> turn off when the button is
> >> pressed again. This
> >>> deactivates the board and the radio returns to
> >> normal mode.
> >>> I need this in a small box. Does anyone have a
> > circuit I could build
> >>> for this
> >> particular application?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Rich
> >>>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

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In a message dated 3/13/2008 11:20:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Maybe  it is not too late to "turn down" the contract. Did you really think 
you would  be able to get them licensed to a VHF pair, or were they not totally 
upfront  about what they had and wanted. 

You can't control what the FCC allows.  

You could just make a go of it with a simplex system. 

Michael  



You are already licensed for the VHF frequencies you need. It should not be  
a problem to modify the license
for repeater operation. Weather it will meet your customers expectations  
remains to be seen.
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

[Peter Dakota Summerhawk]

Checking with the license two of the stations are 200 some miles away at
another little America, so we have one frequency on site so we need a
new pair to be able to be complaint. 
 
Peter Dakota Summerhawk
 
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:58 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related
 
In a message dated 3/13/2008 11:20:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe it is not too late to "turn down" the contract. Did you really
think you would be able to get them licensed to a VHF pair, or were they
not totally upfront about what they had and wanted. 

You can't control what the FCC allows. 

You could just make a go of it with a simplex system. 

Michael 
You are already licensed for the VHF frequencies you need. It should not
be a problem to modify the license
for repeater operation. Weather it will meet your customers expectations
remains to be seen.
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Peter Dakota Summerhawk]

OK, got the M-10's in the mail yesterday and will have to get them over to
the shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:

151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a dual
antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make sure they
work ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have the units programmed
for around 15 watts or so that way I don't burn out the radios when we
really need it. I am thinking that the 153.020 is going to be repeater input
and the 151.835 is the output. I will be running DCS on the system to avoid
problems with the system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with
MDC1200 signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys
up and if there are any problems.

I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program the rigs
for  the repeater use so no problem there.

 

Thanks

 

Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE

 

 

[Repeater-Builder] Need some help with repeater enclousure

[Peter Summerhawk]

Morning Crew,
I have a couple of M-10 radios with RICK along with a cellwave mobile
duplexer that I need a metal locking enclousure for to keep people out of
the equipment. This will be wall mounted and inside to weather is not going
to be a problem. Does anyone have suggestions on a good supplier for getting
one?

Thanks

Peter Summerhawk

[Repeater-Builder] need some help with an Repco Repeater

[shaundaddy17602]

Hi,
I got this basket case of a repeater, that i would like to refurb and
put on the air. 
its a Dimension uhf 450-470.  
So far I got the receiver working. control is working well. but the rf
deck is not. I need the rf transistors but only one is marked. 

Q1 is a CM10-12A
Q2 is the one i need
the service manual only refers to repco part #
any help would be appreciated 

Thanx

[Repeater-Builder] Need some help with Motorola phone patch

[Dakota Summerhawk]

Morning,

I have Motorola Phone Patch model # TDN7406. Can someone
tell me more about it? I am looking to use it but don’t have any idea on
how to program it or how to hook it into my R100 that I am using. Can someone
help with programming and connection?

 

Thanks

 

Dakota Summerhawk

















  




  
  
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RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

[Peter Dakota Summerhawk]

I have seen the license for the UHF pair that they have but the hotel is
not interested in purchasing new equipment for the current system of VHF
radios was just bought last year. I got stuck with this project of
getting a repeater pair and programming the radios. If I would have
known the system was so jacked I would have turned down the contract.


Peter Dakota Summerhawk


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:56 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

Peter,

What type HTs do they have.  One does not see HTs with mWs except for
PRS, the small cheap radios in the 462 range.  So their HTs might have
power, 2-4 W, to cover the grounds.

As you proably know the UHF would get out of holes (hotel walls, etc)
better, but guess not an option.

Covering the 50 acres is no problem, covering from inside
rooms/hallways, etc can be.

I would try for a remoted base with roof antenna.  This will not improve
HT-HT coverage, would give someone better coverage which is probably
important...if the management can talk this often determines if the
system is working.  Few listen to the people who actually do the
work...way it is.

Another solution would be a repeater, low power, 10 W.  Mot has some
very good GR300 using couple of their Radius line rigs mounted in a box.
Since commerical would require 2 freq and if 5 MHz apart could use
mobile type duplexer.  All fits in a small 10w x 10d x 12h or so
including power supply.  The HTs would probably need to be reprogrammed
and the proper license obtained.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/03/08 Sat AM 09:18:11 CST
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

>  
>
>Thehotel that I am contracted for has just spent $50 million for a
renovation buthas already bought new VHF radios, believe mw when I
suggested that they go toUHF they balked at the idea of having to buy
new radios as part of therenovation was the new handhelds sold to them
by a different company in townthat assured them that the new radios
would cover the 50 some odd acres ofproperty that they own. So its up to
me now to get thethings in order to get a system that works for the
least money.
>Go figure.
> 
>Peter Dakota Summerhawk
> 
>-Original Message-
>From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G Shaw
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 20085:55 AM
>To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]Need some help-Commercial related
> 
>You will find as I have that the FCC will not permit aVHF highband
repeater with a non-govt lic. such as business orindustrial.  IB etc.  
>You may be able to bootleg it but you will rcv a ceaseand desist from
the FCC when they become aware of it.  The Coordinatorssuch as NABER
will just reject it.  If you need a repeater you will haveto consider a
narror band UHF application.  If you decide to stickwith  high band then
simplex would be the route to go.  
>Glenn 
>-Original Message- 
>From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of Milt 
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:48AM 
>To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Needsome help-Commercial related 
>The simple answer to your question is the pair thatgives the most
seperation. There are many more things to take intoconsideration.  This
is where a firm that is familure with the ins andouts of commercial
licensing is invaluable.  While the 151.835 may bemodified for a FB2 and
paired with 157.695, the coordinating agency may or maynot grant
coordination.  
>  
>Another thing to consider is thatwhile you can sell this customer a
cheap older repeater, the TK-720 is not approvedfor narrowband operation
IIRC.  Even if the current license allows +/-5Khz deviation a new grant
or modification will most likely require +/- 2.5 Khzdeviation.  Since
the deadline for conversion to narrowband is 2013 (5years away) one
should give serious consideration to how upgrading will takeplace.
>  
>- Original Message - 
>From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>    To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:37 AM 
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related
>I have to put in a repeater for a hotel.I have a Kenwood
TKR-720 repeater and the frequencies I have for the currentlicense are
as follows:
>151.835 
>152.435 
>157.695 
>157.575 
>My question is, what pair is going to be good for this
repeater? I haveto get a working system up and running but need to
figu

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

[michaelhq54]

Maybe it is not too late to "turn down" the contract.  Did you really think you 
would be able to get them licensed to a VHF pair, or were they not totally 
upfront about what they had and wanted.  

You can't control what the FCC allows. 

You could just make a go of it with a simplex system. 

Michael

-Original Message-
From: "Peter Dakota Summerhawk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:16:05 
To:
Subject: RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related


I have seen the license for the UHF pair that they have but the hotel is
not interested in purchasing new equipment for the current system of VHF
radios was just bought last year. I got stuck with this project of
getting a repeater pair and programming the radios. If I would have
known the system was so jacked I would have turned down the contract.


Peter Dakota Summerhawk


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:56 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

Peter,

What type HTs do they have.  One does not see HTs with mWs except for
PRS, the small cheap radios in the 462 range.  So their HTs might have
power, 2-4 W, to cover the grounds.

As you proably know the UHF would get out of holes (hotel walls, etc)
better, but guess not an option.

Covering the 50 acres is no problem, covering from inside
rooms/hallways, etc can be.

I would try for a remoted base with roof antenna.  This will not improve
HT-HT coverage, would give someone better coverage which is probably
important...if the management can talk this often determines if the
system is working.  Few listen to the people who actually do the
work...way it is.

Another solution would be a repeater, low power, 10 W.  Mot has some
very good GR300 using couple of their Radius line rigs mounted in a box.
Since commerical would require 2 freq and if 5 MHz apart could use
mobile type duplexer.  All fits in a small 10w x 10d x 12h or so
including power supply.  The HTs would probably need to be reprogrammed
and the proper license obtained.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/03/08 Sat AM 09:18:11 CST
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

>  
>
>Thehotel that I am contracted for has just spent $50 million for a
renovation buthas already bought new VHF radios, believe mw when I
suggested that they go toUHF they balked at the idea of having to buy
new radios as part of therenovation was the new handhelds sold to them
by a different company in townthat assured them that the new radios
would cover the 50 some odd acres ofproperty that they own. So its up to
me now to get thethings in order to get a system that works for the
least money.
>Go figure.
> 
>Peter Dakota Summerhawk
> 
>-Original Message-
>From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G Shaw
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 20085:55 AM
>To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]Need some help-Commercial related
> 
>You will find as I have that the FCC will not permit aVHF highband
repeater with a non-govt lic. such as business orindustrial.  IB etc.  
>You may be able to bootleg it but you will rcv a ceaseand desist from
the FCC when they become aware of it.  The Coordinatorssuch as NABER
will just reject it.  If you need a repeater you will haveto consider a
narror band UHF application.  If you decide to stickwith  high band then
simplex would be the route to go.  
>Glenn 
>-Original Message- 
>From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of Milt 
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:48AM 
>To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Needsome help-Commercial related 
>The simple answer to your question is the pair thatgives the most
seperation. There are many more things to take intoconsideration.  This
is where a firm that is familure with the ins andouts of commercial
licensing is invaluable.  While the 151.835 may bemodified for a FB2 and
paired with 157.695, the coordinating agency may or maynot grant
coordination.  
>  
>Another thing to consider is thatwhile you can sell this customer a
cheap older repeater, the TK-720 is not approvedfor narrowband operation
IIRC.  Even if the current license allows +/-5Khz deviation a new grant
or modification will most likely require +/- 2.5 Khzdeviation.  Since
the deadline for conversion to narrowband is 2013 (5years away) one
should give serious consideration to how upgrading will takeplace.
>  
>- Original Message - 
>From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>    To: Repea

RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

[Dakota Summerhawk]

The simplex system is not working hence the reason they need a repeater. I got 
the fcc form filled out to get a vhf pair in the area for them so we will see. 
The system was abandoned by the former shop as they went out of business so its 
just me now for the system to get them up and running.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 3/13/08 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related

Maybe it is not too late to "turn down" the contract.  Did you really think you 
would be able to get them licensed to a VHF pair, or were they not totally 
upfront about what they had and wanted.  

You can't control what the FCC allows. 

You could just make a go of it with a simplex system. 

Michael

-Original Message-
From: "Peter Dakota Summerhawk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:16:05 
To:
Subject: RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help-Commercial related


I have seen the license for the UHF pair that they have but the hotel is
not interested in purchasing new equipment for the current system of VHF
radios was just bought last year. I got stuck with this project of
getting a repeater pair and programming the radios. If I would have
known the system was so jacked I would have turned down the contract.


Peter Dakota Summerhawk

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[KD4PBC]

Peter, 

Look here it will give you some guidelines

 

 

http://www.rfsolutions.com/duplex.htm

 

 

Robert / KD4PBC

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Dakota
Summerhawk
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:46 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

 

OK, got the M-10's in the mail yesterday and will have to get them over to
the shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:

151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a dual
antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make sure they
work ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have the units programmed
for around 15 watts or so that way I don't burn out the radios when we
really need it. I am thinking that the 153.020 is going to be repeater input
and the 151.835 is the output. I will be running DCS on the system to avoid
problems with the system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with
MDC1200 signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys
up and if there are any problems.

I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program the rigs
for  the repeater use so no problem there.

 

Thanks

 

Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE

 

 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Thomas Oliver]

You certainly can use a duplexer at the input and output spread you listed and 
it should work quite well.

tom


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8/25/2008 11:45:59 AM 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related


OK, got the M-10’s in the mail yesterday and will have to get them over to the 
shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:
151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a dual 
antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make sure they work 
ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have the units programmed for 
around 15 watts or so that way I don’t burn out the radios when we really need 
it. I am thinking that the 153.020 is going to be repeater input and the 
151.835 is the output. I will be running DCS on the system to avoid problems 
with the system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with MDC1200 
signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys up and if 
there are any problems.
I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program the rigs for  
the repeater use so no problem there.

Thanks

Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE


 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Peter Dakota Summerhawk]

I have not found a duplexer that will cover that and still stay inside the
repeater enclosure that I have. Its one of the setups from Motorola that
houses the radios and RICK as well as the duplexer.

Do you have a source for them by chance?

 

Thanks

Peter Summerhak

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Oliver
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

 

You certainly can use a duplexer at the input and output spread you listed
and it should work quite well.

 

tom

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Peter Dakota <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Summerhawk 

To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

Sent: 8/25/2008 11:45:59 AM 

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

 

OK, got the M-10's in the mail yesterday and will have to get them over to
the shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:

151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a dual
antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make sure they
work ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have the units programmed
for around 15 watts or so that way I don't burn out the radios when we
really need it. I am thinking that the 153.020 is going to be repeater input
and the 151.835 is the output. I will be running DCS on the system to avoid
problems with the system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with
MDC1200 signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys
up and if there are any problems.

I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program the rigs
for  the repeater use so no problem there.

 

Thanks

 

Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE

 

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Steve Kometz]

You may need to reevaluate what you are trying to do here...
  Just in very rough figures, for a one mhz split at 150 mhz, you will want 
about 85 dB of isolation between your two frequencies.( just as a starting 
point)
  That would be around a thousand feet of horizontal separation of antennas, 
and more than a hundred vertical.
  That's probably why you are seeing info on the little notch duplexer not 
being able to work at that freq split. 
  They are usually good at 5 mhz or at least 3.5 mhz.
  You will likely have to use both a notch duplexer and separate antennas, and 
even at that suffer some desense.
  Again, these are VERY general figures.
  What you are trying to do is not impossible at VHF, but it will be difficult.
  Run the numbers, and work out a solution before you try to make something 
that won't work well enuf.
  Some combination of duplexer (actually Tx and Rx filters) and separate 
antennas may work.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 08:45 AM 08/25/08, you wrote:
OK, got the M-10's in the mail yesterday and will have to get them 
over to the shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:
151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a 
dual antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make 
sure they work ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have 
the units programmed for around 15 watts or so that way I don't burn 
out the radios when we really need it. I am thinking that the 
153.020 is going to be repeater input and the 151.835 is the output. 
I will be running DCS on the system to avoid problems with the 
system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with MDC1200 
signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys 
up and if there are any problems.
I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program 
the rigs for  the repeater use so no problem there.


Thanks

Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE


That split (under 1.2 MHz)  is a little close for a baby notch-only duplexer.
Can you get a different input frequency further out?

If you can get a 4 mhz or so you will find it is much easier and much
cheaper to make it work.

A while back the Canadians surplused out a BIG bunch of high
band MSR2000s with 4-5mhz duplexers in them (inside the MSR
cabinet), and all of them that went into amateur service had them
ripped out and shelved.

If you can bump the receive channel further out then one of those
ex-Canadian would scratch your itch just fine, and the seller would
get some shelf space back, so it should be pretty cheap as well.

I wouldn't mind finding one of those myself - I have a use for one.
The repeater transmit channel would be in the 151-152 area and
the receive channel would be in the 156-158 area.

Mike WA6ILQ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Peter Dakota Summerhawk]

I am checking on that right now to see if we can get a  greater spread. Will 
keep you updated.
Peter Summerhawk 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:10 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

At 08:45 AM 08/25/08, you wrote:
OK, got the M-10’s in the mail yesterday and will have to get them over to the 
shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:
 151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a dual 
antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make sure they work 
ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have the units programmed for 
around 15 watts or so that way I don’t burn out the radios when we really need 
it. I am thinking that the 153.020 is going to be repeater input and the 
151.835 is the output. I will be running DCS on the system to avoid problems 
with the system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with MDC1200 
signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys up and if 
there are any problems.
 I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program the rigs 
for  the repeater use so no problem there.
  
 Thanks
  
 Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE
 That split (under 1.2 MHz)  is a little close for a baby notch-only duplexer. 
 Can you get a different input frequency further out?

 If you can get a 4 mhz or so you will find it is much easier and much
 cheaper to make it work.  

 A while back the Canadians surplused out a BIG bunch of high
 band MSR2000s with 4-5mhz duplexers in them (inside the MSR
 cabinet), and all of them that went into amateur service had them


[The entire original message is not included]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

[Peter Dakota Summerhawk]

Talked with my contact they are going to see if we can get a 151/159 split
to better suit our needs. Will keep you posted on this.

Thanks

Peter Summerhawk

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help- M-10 related

 

At 08:45 AM 08/25/08, you wrote:

OK, got the M-10's in the mail yesterday and will have to get them over to
the shop to program them. What I got for a freq spread is:
151.835 and 153.020 so I can t use a duplexer and will have to run a dual
antenna system. How far apart do I have to mount these to make sure they
work ok? I have a Motorola RICK to use and want to have the units programmed
for around 15 watts or so that way I don't burn out the radios when we
really need it. I am thinking that the 153.020 is going to be repeater input
and the 151.835 is the output. I will be running DCS on the system to avoid
problems with the system. The radios (CP200) are going to be programmed with
MDC1200 signaling as the supervisors carry a HT1250 so they can see who keys
up and if there are any problems.
I need some help on getting the antennas set up and I can program the rigs
for  the repeater use so no problem there.
 
Thanks
 
Peter Summerhawk-N0WRE


That split (under 1.2 MHz)  is a little close for a baby notch-only
duplexer.  
Can you get a different input frequency further out?

If you can get a 4 mhz or so you will find it is much easier and much 
cheaper to make it work.   

A while back the Canadians surplused out a BIG bunch of high 
band MSR2000s with 4-5mhz duplexers in them (inside the MSR 
cabinet), and all of them that went into amateur service had them 
ripped out and shelved.  

If you can bump the receive channel further out then one of those 
ex-Canadian would scratch your itch just fine, and the seller would 
get some shelf space back, so it should be pretty cheap as well.

I wouldn't mind finding one of those myself - I have a use for one. 
The repeater transmit channel would be in the 151-152 area and 
the receive channel would be in the 156-158 area.

Mike WA6ILQ

 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help with repeater enclousure

[Mike Pugh]

Peter Summerhawk wrote:
> Morning Crew,
> I have a couple of M-10 radios with RICK along with a cellwave mobile 
> duplexer that I need a metal locking enclousure for to keep people out 
> of the equipment. This will be wall mounted and inside to weather is 
> not going to be a problem. Does anyone have suggestions on a good 
> supplier for getting one?
>  
> Thanks
Hoffman. Available at electrical supply houses.. Mike

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help with Motorola phone patch

[Eric Lemmon]

The TDN7406 is a discontinued device, and it is not listed in the 
Motorola Reference Manual.  Contact Motorola Parts ID at 800-422-4210 and 
ask the clerk what publication covers the unit.  Even if the manual is out 
of print, you will know what manual to search the Internet for.  Good 
luck!
 
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY 


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dakota 
SummerhawkSent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 5:28 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
[Repeater-Builder] Need some help with Motorola phone patch


Morning,
I have Motorola Phone Patch model # 
TDN7406. Can someone tell me more about it? I am looking to use it but don’t 
have any idea on how to program it or how to hook it into my R100 that I am 
using. Can someone help with programming and 
connection?
 
Thanks
 
Dakota 
Summerhawk













  




  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Need some help with Motorola phone patch- Does Motorola R100 have board as addin?

[Dakota Summerhawk]

I have seen a few suggestions for add-in boards for the R100 does anyone
know where to get one? I would be willing to pay for one if they have
it.

Thanks

Dakota Summerhawk





 
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