Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Yup, know-it-alls. Speaking of failures to communicate, I was at a VE session the other night. A person came in for a code test. She was given the piece of scrap paper and a pencil, and proceeded to write down the Morse code as she copied it: -.-. --.- -.. . for the entire length of the test tape. Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. She commented that she hoped there were no numbers on the test. After 45 minutes, she was still grumbling about not having everything right, but I don't know how she knew; I left after that. I hope she didn't pass. This was the 2nd person who copied Morse code this way. Sort of defeats the purpose of translating it on-the-fly so you can have a real QSO. Imagine if someone sent you a message, and you took an hour to decode it, then had to send a reply back. First, the other person would have long gone elsewhere. Second, the band conditions would have probably changed and you could no longer even hear the other person. Our VE group had decided after the first person did this, that we weren't going to allow it again. Unfortunately the person administering the code test never said anything about it prior to the test nor during it, so we were stuck with it. The VE groups should make a policy ruling about this. OK, enough. I just had to add my $0.02 worth too. Glad I don't know everything. Bob M. == --- Steve Bosshard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like some of us 'elmers' may not be imparting information very well. At Ham Coffee the other morning a ham that operates HF, did not have a clue what a beverage antenna was. Maybe a matter of not imparting knowledge effectively, OR a matter of hams that already know everything. Steve NU5D -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:21 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud JOHN MACKEY wrote: I have two new guys hanging out on my repeater system, I think they are coming in on the 2 meter side. They make contact with each other ON THE REPEATER using low power, then switch to high power and ask for signal reports. It's rampant. I'd easily estimate that 1/4 of our members don't really get how a repeater works. You're 20 over 9 here! Nate WY0X -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Sometimes you wonder how some people get along exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from The Chicken Band and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn't only ex CB'ers that are a problem some ole hams are just as bad . A few years ago I went to field day that one of the local clubs put on . I wasn't welcomed but asked what class I was I answered Tec and got a lecture on how no code Tec's Were going to be the down fall of ham radio . So I packed Up my 40 ft almna tower , ant power unit 4000 watt they were using came home . Didn't even bother to tell them that I was A Tec+ at the time . On 2/17/06 6:51 AM, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hams that already know everything... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
lol I really needed a good laugh this morning. Sar far, I've gotten several. hehehehe Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Yup, know-it-alls. Speaking of failures to communicate, I was at a VE session the other night. A person came in for a code test. She was given the piece of scrap paper and a pencil, and proceeded to write down the Morse code as she copied it: -.-. --.- -.. . for the entire length of the test tape. Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. She commented that she hoped there were no numbers on the test. After 45 minutes, she was still grumbling about not having everything right, but I don't know how she knew; I left after that. I hope she didn't pass. This was the 2nd person who copied Morse code this way. Sort of defeats the purpose of translating it on-the-fly so you can have a real QSO. Imagine if someone sent you a message, and you took an hour to decode it, then had to send a reply back. First, the other person would have long gone elsewhere. Second, the band conditions would have probably changed and you could no longer even hear the other person. Our VE group had decided after the first person did this, that we weren't going to allow it again. Unfortunately the person administering the code test never said anything about it prior to the test nor during it, so we were stuck with it. The VE groups should make a policy ruling about this. OK, enough. I just had to add my $0.02 worth too. Glad I don't know everything. Bob M. == --- Steve Bosshard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like some of us 'elmers' may not be imparting information very well. At Ham Coffee the other morning a ham that operates HF, did not have a clue what a beverage antenna was. Maybe a matter of not imparting knowledge effectively, OR a matter of hams that already know everything. Steve NU5D -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:21 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud JOHN MACKEY wrote: I have two new guys hanging out on my repeater system, I think they are coming in on the 2 meter side. They make contact with each other ON THE REPEATER using low power, then switch to high power and ask for signal reports. It's rampant. I'd easily estimate that 1/4 of our members don't really get how a repeater works. You're 20 over 9 here! Nate WY0X -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Dale Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Sometimes you wonder how some people get along exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from The Chicken Band and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn't only ex CB'ers that are a problem some ole hams are just as bad . A few years ago I went to field day that one of the local clubs put on . I wasn't welcomed but asked what class I was I answered Tec and got a lecture on how no code Tec's Were going to be the down fall of ham radio . So I packed Up my 40 ft almna tower , ant power unit 4000 watt they were using came home . Didn't even bother to tell them that I was A Tec+ at the time . On 2/17/06 6:51 AM, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hams that already know everything... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Christopher Zeman wrote: It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Now, we all know the downfall of ham radio will be the 20WPM Extras *ducks* -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who display an obvious lack of technical knowledge will also play a role. I'm referring to the basic skills all amateurs should know. I've been out of the hobby for about 10 years, and I've realized as I start building my station again that I've forgotten a few things, but I certainly haven't forgotten the basics. That said, one of the first things I learned when going for my license originally is that you should listen for a while to gain a familiarity with operating practices. The individuals that were discussed in a related thread that didn't appear to understand how repeaters work are prime examples of why new operators should listen for a while. Perhaps they wanted to know how well they were getting into the machine. I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt having not heard them myself, but their style of calling each other on the air was obviously not acceptable use of the repeater. I've been doing a lot of listening on HF lately. Although I've been inactive (due to no equipment), I upgraded to General a few years ago and have finally started building my station again. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Christopher Zeman wrote: It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Now, we all know the downfall of ham radio will be the 20WPM Extras *ducks* -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Bob M. wrote: Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Ahh yes-the tinfirgudbudy crowd. Or as we like to call them, the 'light-bar brigade'. Turn up your volume. I can't hear you... |cP -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Dale Pratt wrote: Sometimes you wonder how some people get along exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from The Chicken Band and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn't only ex CB'ers that are a problem some ole hams are just as bad . A few years ago I went to field day that one of the local clubs put on . I wasn't welcomed but asked what class I was I answered Tec and got a lecture on how no code Tec's Were going to be the down fall of ham radio . So I packed Up my 40 ft almna tower , ant power unit 4000 watt they were using came home . Didn't even bother to tell them that I was A Tec+ at the time . Now *there's* a club that needs to go away! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Hello Group, Yes, I was a Tech Plus for around thirty years. I had no real interest in HF, I like building and modifying radios into repeaters. I worked in the Two-Way and paging industry for 35 years and now own and operate (maybe it operates me) my own Two-Way radio sales and service shop. I don't have a lot of customers but I make a living, well sort of. I finally upgraded to Extra about three years ago when they changed the rules and I now have a Icom 706 and a screwdriver that I had in my old truck. I have not had the time to install it in the new one yet. The only time I talked on it was when I was on long road trips by myself or when I was in town I would use it to listen to other repeaters along with my Icom IC-2800. I miss the good old full duplex mobile 100 watt Micor days! Just not enough room for channel elements! At one time I had the Micor and a 110 watt Mocom 70 VHF Low Band on 35.92 MHz radio in my 72 Vega that I hot rodded with a 78 Pontiac Sunbird engine, Varoom Varoom! ;) Just because someone is a Tech does not mean they are dumb by any means, let them open their mouth and then decide. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Zeman Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:21 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Dale Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Sometimes you wonder how some people get along exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from The Chicken Band and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn't only ex CB'ers that are a problem some ole hams are just as bad . A few years ago I went to field day that one of the local clubs put on . I wasn't welcomed but asked what class I was I answered Tec and got a lecture on how no code Tec's Were going to be the down fall of ham radio . So I packed Up my 40 ft almna tower , ant power unit 4000 watt they were using came home . Didn't even bother to tell them that I was A Tec+ at the time . On 2/17/06 6:51 AM, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hams that already know everything... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Or turn up your squelch, I can't hear you is another one! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Bob M. wrote: Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Ahh yes-the tinfirgudbudy crowd. Or as we like to call them, the 'light-bar brigade'. Turn up your volume. I can't hear you... |cP -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Try Turn up your RF Gain, you arent using enough power to get into the repeater David -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Or turn up your squelch, I can't hear you is another one! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Bob M. wrote: Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Ahh yes-the tinfirgudbudy crowd. Or as we like to call them, the 'light-bar brigade'. Turn up your volume. I can't hear you... |cP -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Or, as one local Ham advised another, turn up your power, your audio level is low. The other ham was nearly full quieting into the repeater. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Or turn up your squelch, I can't hear you is another one! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Bob M. wrote: Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Ahh yes-the tinfirgudbudy crowd. Or as we like to call them, the 'light-bar brigade'. Turn up your volume. I can't hear you... |cP -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
I was always taught to squeze the PTT button harder when your not making the repeater, which in theory gets more RF out of the finals. On 2/17/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, as one local Ham advised another, turn up your power, your audio level is low. The other ham was nearly full quieting into the repeater. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Or turn up your squelch, I can't hear you is another one! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Bob M. wrote: Hams that already know everything... I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you All the connectors on that thing over there were loose, so I tightened them all up for you and then you find out that that thing was the hybrid ring duplexer on 2 meters, and the connectors were the tuning rods that are now all the way down into the cavities. They're the ones that tell you to put two 100 watt amplifiers in series so you get 200 watts to the antenna. Ahh yes-the tinfirgudbudy crowd. Or as we like to call them, the 'light-bar brigade'. Turn up your volume. I can't hear you... |cP -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Christopher Zeman wrote: I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who display an obvious lack of technical knowledge will also play a role. I'm referring to the basic skills all amateurs should know. I've been out of the hobby for about 10 years, and I've realized as I start building my station again that I've forgotten a few things, but I certainly haven't forgotten the basics. That said, one of the first things I learned when going for my license originally is that you should listen for a while to gain a familiarity with operating practices. The individuals that were discussed in a related thread that didn't appear to understand how repeaters work are prime examples of why new operators should listen for a while. Perhaps they wanted to know how well they were getting into the machine. I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt having not heard them myself, but their style of calling each other on the air was obviously not acceptable use of the repeater. I've been doing a lot of listening on HF lately. Although I've been inactive (due to no equipment), I upgraded to General a few years ago and have finally started building my station again. Chris N9XCR Nicely said, Chris!!! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
Thank you! :) Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Christopher Zeman wrote: I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who display an obvious lack of technical knowledge will also play a role. I'm referring to the basic skills all amateurs should know. I've been out of the hobby for about 10 years, and I've realized as I start building my station again that I've forgotten a few things, but I certainly haven't forgotten the basics. That said, one of the first things I learned when going for my license originally is that you should listen for a while to gain a familiarity with operating practices. The individuals that were discussed in a related thread that didn't appear to understand how repeaters work are prime examples of why new operators should listen for a while. Perhaps they wanted to know how well they were getting into the machine. I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt having not heard them myself, but their style of calling each other on the air was obviously not acceptable use of the repeater. I've been doing a lot of listening on HF lately. Although I've been inactive (due to no equipment), I upgraded to General a few years ago and have finally started building my station again. Chris N9XCR Nicely said, Chris!!! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....
I have talked to a ham he told me some of them went back to 11m. however I guess their golden screwdriver did not get anywhere. Christopher Zeman wrote: It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: "Dale Pratt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. Sometimes you wonder how some people get along exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from " The Chicken Band " and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn't only ex CB'ers that are a problem some ole hams are just as bad . A few years ago I went to field day that one of the local clubs put on . I wasn't welcomed but asked what class I was I answered Tec and got a lecture on how no code Tec's Were going to be the down fall of ham radio . So I packed Up my 40 ft almna tower , ant power unit 4000 watt they were using came home . Didn't even bother to tell them that I was A Tec+ at the time . On 2/17/06 6:51 AM, "Bob M." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Hams that already know everything..." __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- MZ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. begin:vcard fn:Mark A. Holman n:Holman;Mark A. email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Webmaster, IT Student note;quoted-printable:IT, Student Member IEEE, Life Member ARRL, Assoc. Member SBE, CRO, ARRL= VE=0D=0A= Welcome to the Snowy stuff of Michigan=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.ab8ru.org version:2.1 end:vcard
