RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Oh, yes I agree with you. Its going to come to a head here in a few years.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do "all"
digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the manufacturers
laugh all the way to the bank.

Nate WY0X

On 2/15/2010 11:30 AM, k7...@skybeam. <mailto:k7...@skybeam.com> com wrote: 

  

What ??

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam. <mailto:k7...@skybeam.com> com wrote: 

  

I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same
radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that
there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the
radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take
that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month.


Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used
car for the price of one rig. LOL!

Nate 




 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Matthew Kaufman]

Nate Duehr wrote:
>
>
> I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do 
> "all" digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the 
> manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank.
The people laughing all the way to the bank are the folks with the 
patent on the IMBE codec, which they've manged to get written in to 
several of these specs even though there's no royalty-free 
implementations available.

Matthew Kaufman

ps. And to top it off, it performs horribly for some critical 
applications (try using it from inside a building with an active fire 
alarm and see what gets transmitted, for example)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Nate Duehr]

I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do 
"all" digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the 
manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank.


Nate WY0X

On 2/15/2010 11:30 AM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote:


What ??

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693



*From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Duehr

*Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM
*To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam.com <mailto:k7...@skybeam.com> wrote:

I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the 
same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio 
says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will 
add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA 
and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more 
at IWCE next month.




Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent 
used car for the price of one rig. LOL!


Nate

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

What ??

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam. <mailto:k7...@skybeam.com> com wrote: 

  

I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same
radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that
there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the
radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take
that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month.


Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used
car for the price of one rig. LOL!

Nate 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Nate Duehr]

On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote:


I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same 
radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says 
that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 
to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 
but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE 
next month.


Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent 
used car for the price of one rig. LOL!


Nate

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Mark,

 

Yes they plan to have a Mototrbo aka Vertex radio for sale here really soon.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:27 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers
MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership
in Vertex/Standard.

 

IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one "easy, quick
and dirty" way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.

 

This could get to be very interesting.

 

Mark - N9WYS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of John Crockett




Eric:

 

Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being
coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this
digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to
cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time
before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM
is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be
for years to come. www.scheart. <http://www.scheart.us/> us The question in
the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap
frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome!


 

John, 

KC4YI

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Hi Nate,

 

I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same
radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that
there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the
radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take
that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  


On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tom Parker wrote:

> Firmware already "upgrades" a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no
longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same
box. Big "M" did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in
the dealer's price sheet last month. 

What specific radio will do both NXDN and P25... and what would firmware
loads to do both legally, cost? Carrying a laptop and switching when needed,
isn't a problem these days. Would be nice to get dual bang-for-buck, so to
speak.

--
Nate Duehr
n...@natetech. <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> com

facebook.com/denverpilot
twitter.com/denverpilot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Nate Duehr]

On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tom Parker wrote:

> Firmware already "upgrades" a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no 
> longer NXDN.  I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same 
> box.  Big "M" did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in 
> the dealer's price sheet last month.  

What specific radio will do both NXDN and P25... and what would firmware loads 
to do both legally, cost?  Carrying a laptop and switching when needed, isn't a 
problem these days.  Would be nice to get dual bang-for-buck, so to speak.

--
Nate Duehr
n...@natetech.com

facebook.com/denverpilot
twitter.com/denverpilot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Dan Blasberg]

Thanks Mike.

Bookmarked.

Dan

On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:53 AM,
wrote:

>
>
> Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want  
> to look at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org
>
>
>
> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> 6886 Sage Ave
> Firestone, Co 80504
> 303-736-9693
>
>
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:26 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on
> my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT.
>
> Dan
> KA8YPY
>
> On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM,  
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that
> > now, ha ha.
> >
> > I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using
> > color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would
> > be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems
> > owners could login and add their information to their prospective
> > users.
> >
> > I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site
> > Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site
> > Connect.
> >
> >
> > Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> > 6886 Sage Ave
> > Firestone, Co 80504
> > 303-736-9693
> >
> >
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
> >
> >
> > The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete.
> >
> > And yes, there are several TDMA "TYPE 2" systems up and working, but
> > none are certified "PHASE 2" P25 systems.
> >
> > I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a
> > statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified  
> Phase 2
> > system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This
> > not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well.
> >
> > Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs
> > everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or
> > is there some recommendation for settings?
> >
> > Dan
> > KA8YPY
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote:
> >
> > > I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it  
> will be
> > > TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.
> > >
> > > Joe M.
> > >
> > > Dan Blasberg wrote:
> > >> P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will
> > it be
> > >> Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes
> > >> out
> > >> with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as  
> the
> > >> defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for  
> their
> > >> 1st digital implementation.
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >> KA8YPY
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM,  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new
> > APX
> > >>> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to
> > >>> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> > >>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > >>> ] On Behalf Of Gary
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
> > >>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > >>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we
> > have at
> > >>> least 4
> > >>> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.
> > >>> There are
> > >>> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios
> > with
> > >&g

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want to look
at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org
<http://www.rmham.org/> 

 

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:26 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

Mike,

Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on 
my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT.

Dan
KA8YPY

On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM, mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com>
com> mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com> com> 
wrote:

>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that 
> now, ha ha.
>
> I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using 
> color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would 
> be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems 
> owners could login and add their information to their prospective 
> users.
>
> I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site 
> Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site 
> Connect.
>
>
> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> 6886 Sage Ave
> Firestone, Co 80504
> 303-736-9693
>
>
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>
>
> The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete.
>
> And yes, there are several TDMA "TYPE 2" systems up and working, but
> none are certified "PHASE 2" P25 systems.
>
> I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a
> statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2
> system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This
> not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well.
>
> Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs
> everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or
> is there some recommendation for settings?
>
> Dan
> KA8YPY
>
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote:
>
> > I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be
> > TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Dan Blasberg wrote:
> >> P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will 
> it be
> >> Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes
> >> out
> >> with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the
> >> defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their
> >> 1st digital implementation.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >> KA8YPY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com> com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new 
> APX
> >>> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to
> >>> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> >>> ] On Behalf Of Gary
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
> >>> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we 
> have at
> >>> least 4
> >>> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.
> >>> There are
> >>> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios 
> with
> >>> interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo
> >>> activity
> >>> that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur 
> radio
> >>> it's
> >>> become increasingly clear that the system w

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Dan Blasberg]

Mike,

Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on  
my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT.

Dan
KA8YPY


On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM,
wrote:

>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that  
> now, ha ha.
>
> I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using  
> color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would  
> be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems  
> owners could login and add their information to their prospective  
> users.
>
> I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site  
> Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site  
> Connect.
>
>
> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> 6886 Sage Ave
> Firestone, Co 80504
> 303-736-9693
>
>
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>
>
> The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete.
>
> And yes, there are several TDMA "TYPE 2" systems up and working, but
> none are certified "PHASE 2" P25 systems.
>
> I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a
> statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2
> system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This
> not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well.
>
> Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs
> everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or
> is there some recommendation for settings?
>
> Dan
> KA8YPY
>
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote:
>
> > I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be
> > TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Dan Blasberg wrote:
> >> P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will  
> it be
> >> Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes
> >> out
> >> with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the
> >> defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their
> >> 1st digital implementation.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >> KA8YPY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM,  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new  
> APX
> >>> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to
> >>> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> >>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>> ] On Behalf Of Gary
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
> >>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we  
> have at
> >>> least 4
> >>> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.
> >>> There are
> >>> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios  
> with
> >>> interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo
> >>> activity
> >>> that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur  
> radio
> >>> it's
> >>> become increasingly clear that the system works well and that
> >>> Motorola is
> >>> continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time.
> >>> They
> >>> really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation  
> of
> >>> P25 but
> >>> that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on
> >>> developing
> >>> the Mototrbo platform.
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan  
> Blasberg
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
> >>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
> >>>
> >>> Mike,
> >>>
> >>> In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10
> >>> amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.
> >>>
> >>> I would be interested to know what other areas are using for  
> setting
> >>> or are they leaving everything in the default setting?
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>> KA8YPY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Hi Dan,

 

Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha
ha. 

 

I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code
1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there
were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add
their information to their prospective users. 

 

I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect.
Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete.

And yes, there are several TDMA "TYPE 2" systems up and working, but 
none are certified "PHASE 2" P25 systems.

I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a 
statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 
system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This 
not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well.

Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs 
everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or 
is there some recommendation for settings?

Dan
KA8YPY

On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote:

> I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be
> TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.
>
> Joe M.
>
> Dan Blasberg wrote:
>> P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be
>> Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes 
>> out
>> with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the
>> defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their
>> 1st digital implementation.
>>
>> Dan
>> KA8YPY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com>
com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX
>>> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to
>>> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
>>> ] On Behalf Of Gary
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
>>> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>>>
>>>
>>> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at
>>> least 4
>>> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.
>>> There are
>>> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
>>> interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo
>>> activity
>>> that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio
>>> it's
>>> become increasingly clear that the system works well and that
>>> Motorola is
>>> continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. 
>>> They
>>> really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of
>>> P25 but
>>> that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on
>>> developing
>>> the Mototrbo platform.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
>>> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10
>>> amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.
>>>
>>> I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting
>>> or are they leaving everything in the default setting?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> KA8YPY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>> 
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>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Dan Blasberg]

The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete.

And yes, there are several TDMA "TYPE 2" systems up and working, but  
none are certified "PHASE 2" P25 systems.

I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a  
statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2  
system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county.  This  
not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well.

Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs  
everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or  
is there some recommendation for settings?

Dan
KA8YPY


On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote:

> I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be
> TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.
>
> Joe M.
>
> Dan Blasberg wrote:
>> P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be
>> Motorola's implementation or another?  Just because Motorola comes  
>> out
>> with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the
>> defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their
>> 1st digital implementation.
>>
>> Dan
>> KA8YPY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX
>>> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to
>>> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>> ] On Behalf Of Gary
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
>>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>>>
>>>
>>> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at
>>> least 4
>>> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.
>>> There are
>>> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
>>> interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo
>>> activity
>>> that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio
>>> it's
>>> become increasingly clear that the system works well and that
>>> Motorola is
>>> continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time.  
>>> They
>>> really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of
>>> P25 but
>>> that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on
>>> developing
>>> the Mototrbo platform.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
>>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10
>>> amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.
>>>
>>> I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting
>>> or are they leaving everything in the default setting?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> KA8YPY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[MCH]

I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be 
TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.

Joe M.

Dan Blasberg wrote:
> P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be  
> Motorola's implementation or another?  Just because Motorola comes out  
> with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the  
> defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their  
> 1st digital implementation.
> 
> Dan
> KA8YPY
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM,  wrote:
> 
>>
>> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX  
>> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to  
>> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
>>
>>
>> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Gary
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>>
>>
>> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at  
>> least 4
>> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.  
>> There are
>> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
>> interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo  
>> activity
>> that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio  
>> it's
>> become increasingly clear that the system works well and that  
>> Motorola is
>> continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They
>> really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of  
>> P25 but
>> that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on  
>> developing
>> the Mototrbo platform.
>> Gary
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10
>> amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.
>>
>> I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting
>> or are they leaving everything in the default setting?
>>
>> Dan
>> KA8YPY
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Dan Blasberg]

P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be  
Motorola's implementation or another?  Just because Motorola comes out  
with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the  
defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their  
1st digital implementation.

Dan
KA8YPY



On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX  
> series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to  
> prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
>
>
> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
>
>
>
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Gary
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>
>
> Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at  
> least 4
> Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band.  
> There are
> more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
> interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo  
> activity
> that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio  
> it's
> become increasingly clear that the system works well and that  
> Motorola is
> continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They
> really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of  
> P25 but
> that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on  
> developing
> the Mototrbo platform.
> Gary
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
>
> Mike,
>
> In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10
> amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.
>
> I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting
> or are they leaving everything in the default setting?
>
> Dan
> KA8YPY
>
>
>
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Hi Glen,

 

Go to www.yahoo.com/groups and search for the MT-USA group and register
their. Mike WB6WUI will most likely email a welcome letter back to you and
you can get the information your looking for.

 

 

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

I carry a Trbo daily for work with analog amateur in it. I have installed
both standalone and IP connect repeaters at our sites. I can't find info on
"Trbo-6". Are many amateur Trbo repeaters connected? I would love to put on
in place and connect it.

 

Glenn

W8AK

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:42:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
n6...@cox.net writes:

  

Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4
Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are
more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity
that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's
become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is
continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They
really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but
that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing
the Mototrbo platform.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Mike,

In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 
amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.

I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting 
or are they leaving everything in the default setting?

Dan
KA8YPY

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series
radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA
phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4
Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are
more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity
that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's
become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is
continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They
really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but
that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing
the Mototrbo platform.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Mike,

In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 
amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.

I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting 
or are they leaving everything in the default setting?

Dan
KA8YPY

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

HYT will offer it at the IWCE this year and will get broshures and info for the 
new web site.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

  

The Vertex MotoTrbo product is just a re-badged and watered down Motorola 
product and nothing more. No point re-inventing the wheel for the big M, and 
also they need to compromise in the marketplace, without upsetting their 
Motorola Sales/Dealers.

HYT will be the ones to watch as their gear is Trbo backwards compatible.

 

Cheers

 

Gareth Bennett

- Original Message - 

From: Mark <mailto:n9...@ameritech.net>  

To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:26 AM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo 
to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in 
Vertex/Standard.

IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and 
dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.

This could get to be very interesting…

Mark – N9WYS

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of John Crockett




Eric:

Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being 
coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital 
technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the 
state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is 
viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the 
back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to 
come. www.scheart. <http://www.scheart.us/> us The question in the back of my 
mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess 
we can stay tuned for the outcome!


 

John, 

KC4YI

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Word has it that later this year there will be P25 flash for the trbo radio
but will work on both from what I hear. My 2 cents as well.

 

 

Mike

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Parker
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:55 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

Firmware already "upgrades" a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no
longer NXDN.  I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the
same box.  Big "M" did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put
it in the dealer's price sheet last month.  

my 2 cents

MCH wrote: 

  

And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format.

Joe M.

Mark wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers 
> MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have 
> ownership in Vertex/Standard.
> 
> 
> 
> IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one "easy, 
> quick and dirty" way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.
> 
> 
> 
> This could get to be very interesting.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *John Crockett
> 
> Eric:
> 
> 
> 
> Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being 
> coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this 
> digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters 
> to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long 
> time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. 
> Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system 
> and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us 
> <http://www.scheart. <http://www.scheart.us/> us/> The question in the
back of my mind is. Is 
> MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we 
> can stay tuned for the outcome!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> KC4YI
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[w8ak]

I carry a Trbo daily for work with analog amateur in it. I have installed  
both standalone and IP connect repeaters at our sites. I can't find info on  
"Trbo-6". Are many amateur Trbo repeaters connected? I would love to put on 
in  place and connect it.
 
Glenn
W8AK
 
 
In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:42:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
n6...@cox.net writes:

 
 
 
Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least  
4
Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There  are
more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios  with
interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo  activity
that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur  radio it's
become increasingly clear that the system works well and that  Motorola is
continuing to improve or release features and tools all the  time. They
really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation  of P25 but
that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on  developing
the Mototrbo platform.
Gary

-Original  Message-
From: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) 
[mailto:_repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
To:  _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Mike,

In the DC area  there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 
amateurs playing with  MOTOTRBO.

I would be interested to know what other areas are using for  setting 
or are they leaving everything in the default  setting?

Dan
KA8YPY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[MCH]

My point was not to keep NCDN and P25, but rather to have one digital 
voice format on the bands everyone can use as opposed to 27 formats.

Joe M.

Tom Parker wrote:
> 
> 
> Firmware already "upgrades" a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no 
> longer NXDN.  I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the 
> same box.  Big "M" did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and 
> put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. 
> 
> my 2 cents
> 
> MCH wrote:
>>  
>>
>> And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Mark wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers
>> > MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have
>> > ownership in Vertex/Standard.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy,
>> > quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This could get to be very interesting…
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark – N9WYS
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>>  *On Behalf Of *John Crockett
>> >
>> > Eric:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being
>> > coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this
>> > digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters
>> > to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long
>> > time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system.
>> > Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system
>> > and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us
>> > > The question in 
>> the back of my mind is. Is
>> > MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we
>> > can stay tuned for the outcome!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > KC4YI
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Gary]

Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4
Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are
more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity
that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's
become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is
continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They
really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but
that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing
the Mototrbo platform.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Mike,

In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10  
amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.

I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting  
or are they leaving everything in the default setting?

Dan
KA8YPY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Gareth Bennett]

The Vertex MotoTrbo product is just a re-badged and watered down Motorola 
product and nothing more. No point re-inventing the wheel for the big M, and 
also they need to compromise in the marketplace, without upsetting their 
Motorola Sales/Dealers.
HYT will be the ones to watch as their gear is Trbo backwards compatible.

Cheers

Gareth Bennett
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems




  I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers 
MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in 
Vertex/Standard.



  IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and 
dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.



  This could get to be very interesting…



  Mark – N9WYS



  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of John Crockett



  Eric:



  Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being 
coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital 
technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the 
state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is 
viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the 
back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to 
come. www.scheart.us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the 
digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for 
the outcome!


   

  John, 

  KC4YI


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Dan Blasberg]

Mike,

In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10  
amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.

I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting  
or are they leaving everything in the default setting?

Dan
KA8YPY


On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:24 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are  
> installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is  
> up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the  
> interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very  
> interested.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike K7PFJ
>
>
> Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
> 6886 Sage Ave
> Firestone, Co 80504
> 303-736-9693
>
>
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Tom Parker]

Firmware already "upgrades" a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no 
longer NXDN.  I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the 
same box.  Big "M" did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and 
put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. 


my 2 cents

MCH wrote:
 


And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format.

Joe M.

Mark wrote:
>
>
> I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers
> MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have
> ownership in Vertex/Standard.
>
>
>
> IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy,
> quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.
>
>
>
> This could get to be very interesting…
>
>
>
> Mark – N9WYS
>
>
>
> *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 *On Behalf Of *John Crockett

>
> Eric:
>
>
>
> Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being
> coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this
> digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters
> to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long
> time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system.
> Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system
> and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us
> > The question in 
the back of my mind is. Is

> MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we
> can stay tuned for the outcome!
>
>
>
>
> John,
>
> KC4YI
>
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[MCH]

And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format.

Joe M.

Mark wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers 
> MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have 
> ownership in Vertex/Standard.
> 
>  
> 
> IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, 
> quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.
> 
>  
> 
> This could get to be very interesting…
> 
>  
> 
> Mark – N9WYS
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  *On Behalf Of *John Crockett
> 
> Eric:
> 
>  
> 
> Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being 
> coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this 
> digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters 
> to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long 
> time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. 
> Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system 
> and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us 
>  The question in the back of my mind is. Is 
> MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we 
> can stay tuned for the outcome!
> 
> 
>  
> 
> John,
> 
> KC4YI
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Mark]

I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo 
to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in 
Vertex/Standard.

 

IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and 
dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR.

 

This could get to be very interesting…

 

Mark – N9WYS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of John Crockett



Eric:

 

Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being 
coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital 
technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the 
state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is 
viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the 
back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to 
come. www.scheart.us   The question in the back of my 
mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess 
we can stay tuned for the outcome!


 

John, 

KC4YI

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Hi Eric,

 

There are currently about 50 radios that have the ham systems programmed
into their radios. I would say that there will by the end of next month,
there should be 50 or so hams that have radios in the Colorado area. The
emails are flying around this area on how to acquire radios and get on the
systems etc.

 

 

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

Mike,

There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital
systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have
purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. <mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com>
com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems


Hi Eric,

Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can
get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com
<http://www.usedmoto <http://www.usedmototrbo.com/> trbo.com/> site up here
and there will be many other
digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the
radios and not using there DStar radios.

Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT
will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and
they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. 

Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware
widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone
application being tossed around as well.

I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great
and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the
TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. 

I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and
I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and
converted it to Mototrbo.

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ


From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems


Mike,

A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a
MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling
block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use
the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440
repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of
those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to
talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco
radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere.

I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now
being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others
to justify the high cost of implementation.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.
<mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com> com
<mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing
HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great
and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am
hearing of others that are also very interested. 

Thanks,

Mike K7PFJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[John Crockett]

Eric:

Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being 
coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital 
technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the 
state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is 
viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the 
back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to 
come. www.scheart.us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the 
digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for 
the outcome!

 
John, 
KC4YI




From: Eric Lemmon 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 11:34:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

  
Mike,

There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital
systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have
purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems


Hi Eric,

Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can
get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo. com
<http://www.usedmototrbo.com/> site up here and there will be many other
digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the
radios and not using there DStar radios.

Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT
will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and
they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. 

Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware
widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone
application being tossed around as well.

I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great
and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the
TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. 

I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and
I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and
converted it to Mototrbo.

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
 _ _ __

From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems


Mike,

A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a
MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling
block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use
the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440
repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of
those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to
talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco
radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere.

I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now
being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others
to justify the high cost of implementation.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:Repeater- Builder%40yahoog roups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:Repeater- Builder%40yahoog roups.com> ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. com
<mailto:k7pfj% 40skybeam. com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:Repeater- Builder%40yahoog roups.com> 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing
HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great
and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am
hearing of others that are also very interested. 

Thanks,

Mike K7PFJ





  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Eric Lemmon]

Mike,

There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital
systems.  Please answer my question:  How many Hams in your area have
purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
 

Hi Eric,

Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can
get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com
<http://www.usedmototrbo.com/>  site up here and there will be many other
digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the
radios and not using there DStar radios.

Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT
will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and
they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. 

Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware
widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone
application being tossed around as well.

I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great
and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the
TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. 

I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and
I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and
converted it to Mototrbo.

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
  

Mike,

A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a
MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling
block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use
the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440
repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of
those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to
talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco
radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere.

I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now
being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others
to justify the high cost of implementation.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com
<mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing
HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great
and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am
hearing of others that are also very interested. 

Thanks,

Mike K7PFJ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[k7pfj]

Hi Eric,

 

Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can
get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com
<http://www.usedmototrbo.com/>  site up here and there will be many other
digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the
radios and not using there DStar radios.

 

Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT
will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and
they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. 

 

Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware
widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone
application being tossed around as well.

 

I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great
and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the
TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. 

 

I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and
I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and
converted it to Mototrbo.

 

 

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

 

  

Mike,

A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a
MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling
block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use
the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440
repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of
those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to
talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco
radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere.

I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now
being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others
to justify the high cost of implementation.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. <mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com>
com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing
HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great
and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am
hearing of others that are also very interested. 

Thanks,

Mike K7PFJ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

[Eric Lemmon]

Mike,

A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a
MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites.  The major stumbling
block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use
the MotoTrbo repeater.  There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440
repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of
those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to
talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco
radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere.

I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now
being used in the Denver area.  Perhaps a new perspective will help others
to justify the high cost of implementation.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

  

Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing
HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great
and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am
hearing of others that are also very interested. 

Thanks,

Mike K7PFJ