RE: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator vs intermod panel?

2009-07-20 Thread Gary Schafer
Definitions: 

Circulator - ferrite device with 3 ports.
Isolator   - Circulator with a load on the 3rd port.
Intermod panel - Isolator with a harmonic filter. The harmonic filter may
consist of a 2nd harmonic notch filter or a low pass filter or a band pass
cavity.

73
Gary  K4FMX

 

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> I guess I was lucky in my first few years as a repeater owner.
> Lately I have nothing but grief in many forms. (Yeah I know, welcome
> to the real world!)
> 
> Can someone tell me in basic terms what is the difference between an
> isolator and an intermod suppression panel which contains an isolator?
> 
> If one has a high power tube PA on a repeater, I assume he would
> need to use a high power isolator or intermod panel after the PA? Or
> would it be sufficient to use a lower power one between the solid
> state exciter and tube PA?
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Paul N1BUG
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator vs intermod panel?

2009-07-20 Thread Doug Bade
Paul;

 In general all of the Intermod panels I have seen have a 
bandpass filter too...not just an isolator.

As for before or after.. It needs to be on the antenna side of the PA 
to do it's job..
Intermod panels are about suppressing any regenerated energy from 
others... which are antenna side issues.

Doug
KD8B

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>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator vs intermod panel?
>
>
>
>
>
>I guess I was lucky in my first few years as a repeater owner.
>Lately I have nothing but grief in many forms. (Yeah I know, welcome
>to the real world!)
>
>Can someone tell me in basic terms what is the difference between an
>isolator and an intermod suppression panel which contains an isolator?
>
>If one has a high power tube PA on a repeater, I assume he would
>need to use a high power isolator or intermod panel after the PA? Or
>would it be sufficient to use a lower power one between the solid
>state exciter and tube PA?
>
>Thanks...
>
>Paul N1BUG
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator vs intermod panel?

2009-07-20 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Paul,

 

Go to the EMR web site and read one of Bill Sr tech notes. You will find it
very interesting. Here is a link for you go directly to the web page.

 

http://www.emrcorp.com/techinfo/1/pdf/rf_isolators(1-14).pdf

 

Mike

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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I guess I was lucky in my first few years as a repeater owner. 
Lately I have nothing but grief in many forms. (Yeah I know, welcome 
to the real world!)

Can someone tell me in basic terms what is the difference between an 
isolator and an intermod suppression panel which contains an isolator?

If one has a high power tube PA on a repeater, I assume he would 
need to use a high power isolator or intermod panel after the PA? Or 
would it be sufficient to use a lower power one between the solid 
state exciter and tube PA?

Thanks...

Paul N1BUG



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