Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment recovered - is some yours?

[Jacob Suter]

The FCC sucked up *all* his gear vs just the gear he was using to break 
the law, which I believe is allowed since the defendant was a licensed 
operator of some sort.  While my radio geek side likes this, my US 
citizen side kinda freaks out at the idea...

The problem with the $24k FCC fine is that $24k only went to the FCC.  
The affected mall could file a civil case, but thats not really worth 
the effort unless the guy has easily accessed money after the FCC gets 
done taking their chunk. 

The real question is - what do laptop/desktop computers have to do with 
some moron screwing with mall cops?  You could get *really* outside and 
say he looked up the frequencies with said computers, but thats about 
it.  Something about this story doesn't quite make sense...

JS

Jeff Kincaid wrote:
>
>
> This is really rather frightening. Many of us have similar collections 
> of gear, and I'm wondering on what basis it was seized. I don't 
> remember anything in the Constitution about seizure of potentially 
> stolen property. I hope the stuff is his and he gets a really huge 
> settlement (and that the folks he was jamming get the same from him). 
> The idea that a government minion can simply decide that you have too 
> much radio gear and take it seems rather onerous.
>
> 'JK
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> , Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Recently the FCC busted a local jammer and when his residence
> > was searched they found a treasure trove. There are over 200 pieces
> > of equipment involved including laptops, desktops, over 120 handhelds
> > and several repeaters. And broadcast equipment including a
> > commercial grade FM transmitter.
> >
> > If anybody has serial numbers on file that matches anything on
> > the lists mentioned below I think that the Ventura County Sheriff's
> > Department would like to hear from you - contact Detective Jon Smith
> > at (805) 494-8216 or via e-mail at jon.smith (at) ventura (dot) org
> >
> > The snippet below is from the "CGC Communicator, a broadcast industry
> > weekly newsletter published by Robert F. Gonsett, W6VR,  > cgc333 (dot) connectnet (dot) com>, Copyright 2009, Communications
> > General® Corporation (CGC).
> > Reprinted with permission, and the newsletter has given permission
> > for others to do likewise. No additional permission is needed.
> >
> > >**
> > >
> > > LIST OF POTENTIALLY STOLEN EQUIPMENT IN THE BONDY CASE
> > >
> > >The Ventura County Sheriff's Department has prepared its
> > >list of potentially stolen radio equipment in the Kevin Bondy
> > >case. Mr. Bondy is accused of jamming some southern California
> > >radio frequencies as discussed in recent CGC Communicator
> > >newsletters. A police search of his residence turned up an
> > >extraordinary amount of potentially stolen radio gear.
> > >
> > >Your help is needed. Is any of this equipment yours? Would
> > >you copy this story to others in the land-mobile and broadcast
> > >industries, particularly to equipment dealers and publications?
> > >If some or all of this equipment is stolen, the owners need to
> > >contact the Ventura County Sheriff pronto.
> > >
> > >Items #120 - 123 involve FM broadcast equipment; the rest
> > >is land-mobile gear (including repeaters) with a few miscellaneous
> > >items mixed in (e.g. computers, CB & amateur radio gear). The
> > >first URL takes you to the list. The second URL shows pictures
> > >of the FM broadcast equipment and gives contact information for
> > >the Ventura County Sheriff.
> > >
> > >Communications General Corp. has been in touch with Broadcast
> > >Electronics concerning Item #120, the solid state 1,000 watt FM
> > >broadcast transmitter. Unfortunately, the serial number is a bit
> > >outdated for their records, but perhaps you or an equipment dealer
> > >would have a record of the sales transaction.
> > >
> > >Thanks for helping by looking over the equipment list and
> > >forwarding this story to others.
> > >
> > > Equipment list:
> > > http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/Oaks_Mall_09-5771.pdf 
> 
> > >
> > > Photographs of the FM broadcast equipment:
> > > http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/Letters/Stolen%20Equipment.htm 
> 
> > >
> > > Background information on Mr. Bondy:
> > > http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290813A1.html 
> 
> > >
> > >**
> >
>
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment recovered - is some yours?

[Richard]

Are you kidding? The politicians don't care about the Constitution, to them
it is some totally irrelevant old document. In other words, they ignore it
and do whatever they want.

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kincaid
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment
recovered - is some yours?

This is really rather frightening.  Many of us have similar collections of
gear, and I'm wondering on what basis it was seized.  I don't remember
anything in the Constitution about seizure of potentially stolen property.
I hope the stuff is his and he gets a really huge settlement (and that the
folks he was jamming get the same from him).  The idea that a government
minion can simply decide that you have too much radio gear and take it seems
rather onerous.  

'JK

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
wrote:
>
> Recently the FCC busted a local jammer and when his residence
> was searched they found a treasure trove. There are over 200 pieces
> of equipment involved including laptops, desktops, over 120 handhelds
> and several repeaters.  And broadcast equipment including a
> commercial grade FM transmitter.
> 
> If anybody has serial numbers on file that matches anything on
> the lists mentioned below I think that the Ventura County Sheriff's
> Department would like to hear from you - contact Detective Jon Smith
> at (805) 494-8216 or via e-mail at jon.smith (at) ventura (dot) org
> 
> The snippet below is from the "CGC Communicator, a broadcast industry
> weekly newsletter published by Robert F. Gonsett, W6VR,  cgc333 (dot) connectnet (dot) com>, Copyright 2009, Communications
> GeneralR Corporation (CGC).
> Reprinted with permission, and the newsletter has given permission
> for others to do likewise.  No additional permission is needed.
> 
>  >**
>  >
>  >  LIST OF POTENTIALLY STOLEN EQUIPMENT IN THE BONDY CASE
>  >
>  >The Ventura County Sheriff's Department has prepared its
>  >list of potentially stolen radio equipment in the Kevin Bondy
>  >case.  Mr. Bondy is accused of jamming some southern California
>  >radio frequencies as discussed in recent CGC Communicator
>  >newsletters.  A police search of his residence turned up an
>  >extraordinary amount of potentially stolen radio gear.
>  >
>  >Your help is needed.  Is any of this equipment yours?  Would
>  >you copy this story to others in the land-mobile and broadcast
>  >industries, particularly to equipment dealers and publications?
>  >If some or all of this equipment is stolen, the owners need to
>  >contact the Ventura County Sheriff pronto.
>  >
>  >Items #120 - 123 involve FM broadcast equipment; the rest
>  >is land-mobile gear (including repeaters) with a few miscellaneous
>  >items mixed in (e.g. computers, CB & amateur radio gear).  The
>  >first URL takes you to the list.  The second URL shows pictures
>  >of the FM broadcast equipment and gives contact information for
>  >the Ventura County Sheriff.
>  >
>  >Communications General Corp. has been in touch with Broadcast
>  >Electronics concerning Item #120, the solid state 1,000 watt FM
>  >broadcast transmitter.  Unfortunately, the serial number is a bit
>  >outdated for their records, but perhaps you or an equipment dealer
>  >would have a record of the sales transaction.
>  >
>  >Thanks for helping by looking over the equipment list and
>  >forwarding this story to others.
>  >
>  >  Equipment list:
>  >  http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/Oaks_Mall_09-5771.pdf
>  >
>  >  Photographs of the FM broadcast equipment:
>  >  http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/Letters/Stolen%20Equipment.htm
>  >
>  >  Background information on Mr. Bondy:
>  >  http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290813A1.html
>  >
>  >**
>








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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment recovered - is some yours?

[gerald bishop]

Hate to say it ,but the last 2 posts make it sound like the guy was doing 
nothing. Not sure if they warned him,but when you jam a legal freq ,this is 
what happens,sooner or later. There was another jammer out there ,i think that 
removal of gear and fines didn't stop him,and was sent to the slammer. Some may 
think this wrong,but if you didn't ,soon would have what the CB'ers had back in 
the late 70's. Self-destruction !! Jerry W8KQ

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Richard  wrote:

From: Richard 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen 
equipment recovered - is some yours?
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 8:48 PM
















  
  Are you kidding? The politicians don't care about the Constitution, to 
them

it is some totally irrelevant old document. In other words, they ignore it

and do whatever they want.



Richard

www.n7tgb.net

 



-Original Message-

From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kincaid

Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:04 PM

To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment

recovered - is some yours?



This is really rather frightening.  Many of us have similar collections of

gear, and I'm wondering on what basis it was seized.  I don't remember

anything in the Constitution about seizure of potentially stolen property.

I hope the stuff is his and he gets a really huge settlement (and that the

folks he was jamming get the same from him).  The idea that a government

minion can simply decide that you have too much radio gear and take it seems

rather onerous.  



'JK



--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ 

wrote:

>

> Recently the FCC busted a local jammer and when his residence

> was searched they found a treasure trove. There are over 200 pieces

> of equipment involved including laptops, desktops, over 120 handhelds

> and several repeaters.  And broadcast equipment including a

> commercial grade FM transmitter.

> 

> If anybody has serial numbers on file that matches anything on

> the lists mentioned below I think that the Ventura County Sheriff's

> Department would like to hear from you - contact Detective Jon Smith

> at (805) 494-8216 or via e-mail at jon.smith (at) ventura (dot) org

> 

> The snippet below is from the "CGC Communicator, a broadcast industry

> weekly newsletter published by Robert F. Gonsett, W6VR,  cgc333 (dot) connectnet (dot) com>, Copyright 2009, Communications

> GeneralR Corporation (CGC).

> Reprinted with permission, and the newsletter has given permission

> for others to do likewise.  No additional permission is needed.

> 

>  >*** * * * * * * *

>  >

>  >  LIST OF POTENTIALLY STOLEN EQUIPMENT IN THE BONDY CASE

>  >

>  >The Ventura County Sheriff's Department has prepared its

>  >list of potentially stolen radio equipment in the Kevin Bondy

>  >case.  Mr. Bondy is accused of jamming some southern California

>  >radio frequencies as discussed in recent CGC Communicator

>  >newsletters.  A police search of his residence turned up an

>  >extraordinary amount of potentially stolen radio gear.

>  >

>  >Your help is needed.  Is any of this equipment yours?  Would

>  >you copy this story to others in the land-mobile and broadcast

>  >industries, particularly to equipment dealers and publications?

>  >If some or all of this equipment is stolen, the owners need to

>  >contact the Ventura County Sheriff pronto.

>  >

>  >Items #120 - 123 involve FM broadcast equipment; the rest

>  >is land-mobile gear (including repeaters) with a few miscellaneous

>  >items mixed in (e.g. computers, CB & amateur radio gear).  The

>  >first URL takes you to the list.  The second URL shows pictures

>  >of the FM broadcast equipment and gives contact information for

>  >the Ventura County Sheriff.

>  >

>  >Communications General Corp. has been in touch with Broadcast

>  >Electronics concerning Item #120, the solid state 1,000 watt FM

>  >broadcast transmitter.  Unfortunately, the serial number is a bit

>  >outdated for their records, but perhaps you or an equipment dealer

>  >would have a record of the sales transaction.

>  >

>  >Thanks for helping by looking over the equipment list and

>  >forwarding this story to others.

>  >

>  >  Equipment list:

>  >  http://earthsignals .com/add_ CGC/Oaks_ Mall_09-5771. pdf

>  >

>  >  Photographs of the FM broadcast equipment:

>  >  http://earthsignals .com/add_ CGC/Letters/ Stolen%20Equipme nt.htm

>  >

>  >  Background information on Mr. Bondy:

>  >  http://www.fcc. gov/eb/FieldNoti ces/2003/ DOC-290813A1. html

>  >

>  >*** * * * * * * *

>



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment recovered - is some yours?

[Barry]

As it appears here to a disinterested party , he broke the law and equipment 
used in commissioning the crime was confiscated ( jamming + abuse) .. along 
with some which may have been involved so taken as well to prevent further 
illegal activity . 
 Time to drop it fellas .


> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> From: je...@lafn.org
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:42:34 +
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment 
> recovered - is some yours?
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> here. You got a crime, you seize the evidence. You don't got a crime, it 
> ain't evidence. Now the cops are the thieves.
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> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "TRACOMM" wrote:
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>> Years ago, the PD arrested a guy breaking into a snow plow dealer late
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>> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Kincaid"
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>> Jerry, I certainly didn't mean to imply that he was doing nothing when
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>>> We're pretty far off topic here, so I hope this will be sufficient to
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>> clarify my concerns.
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>>> Jeff
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>>>
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>>> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gerald bishop orangetruck38@
>
>> wrote:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Hate to say it ,but the last 2 posts make it sound like the guy was
>
>> doing nothing. Not sure if they warned him,but when you jam a legal freq
>
>> ,this is what happens,sooner or later. There was another jammer out
>
>> there ,i think that removal of gear and fines didn't stop him,and was
>
>> sent to the slammer. Some may think this wrong,but if you didn't ,soon
>
>> would have what the CB'ers had back in the late 70's. Self-destruction
>
>> !! Jerry W8KQ
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>>>> --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Richard slottech@ wrote:
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>>>> From: Richard slottech@
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>>>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of
>
>> stolen equipment recovered - is some yours?
>
>>>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>
>>>> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 8:48 PM
>
>> Are you kidding? The politicians don't care about the Constitution, to
>
>> them
>
>> it is some totally irrelevant old document. In other words, they ignore
>
>> it
>
>> and do whatever they want.
>
>> Richard
>
>> www.n7tgb.net
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>>
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>> -Original Message-
>
>> From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
>
>> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kincaid
>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:04 PM
>
>> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
>
>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen
>
>> equipment
>
>> recovered - is some yours?
>
>> This is really rather frightening. Many of us have similar collections
>
>> of
>
>> gear, and I'm wondering on what basis it was seized. I don't remember
>
>> anything in the Constitution about seizure of potentially stolen
>
>> property.
>
>> I hope the stuff is his and he gets a really huge settlement (and that
>
>> the
>
>> folks he was jamming get the same from him). The idea that a government
>
>> minion can simply decide that you have too much radio gear and take it
>
>> seems
>
>> rather onerous.
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