RE: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
They will never be in Order, because everyones Internet Provider is Different and send things out that get bogged down. Now I know this was not a great Answer, I am not that Computer savvy, but someone on Here can explain it in More Tech terms without this Becoming into a big thread. Happy repeater Building Don KA9QJG PS 45 MPH Winds 8-12 in blowing Snow Hammond Indiana
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
Welcome to Yahoo's lousy group and e-mail system. That's just the way it is. If you want it to be better, you'll have to take the service off of Yahoo and get a company that can do stuff properly to run it. I've posted messages on Friday and not seen them come back to me until Monday. I've seen replies to messages and never seen the original post. Sequence? Order? No such thing. And I get them via Yahoo's own mail system too. Don't worry. Some day, one of their mail servers will bounce another message back to one of their own group servers, and then your incoming e-mail address will be disabled, due to no fault of yours. It'll take a week for Yahoo to find out what the problem is, and then they still won't fix it. The name says it all! Bob M. == --- radiomog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how does this group run? I've getting posts out of sequence... the here's a weird one.. (~) post showed quite a few responses before the actual post showed up. I'm on yahoo, and its a yahoo group. How does this work, and what would it take to see that messages show up in order and on a timely basis? It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
radiomog wrote: how does this group run? I've getting posts out of sequence... the here's a weird one.. (~) post showed quite a few responses before the actual post showed up. I'm on yahoo, and its a yahoo group. How does this work, and what would it take to see that messages show up in order and on a timely basis? Complain to Yahoo. After several hundred times of that going nowhere, you will give up like the rest of us. Ya-Phey... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
A much faster internet with faster mail servers at YahooGroups. Joe M. radiomog wrote: and what would it take to see that messages show up in order and on a timely basis?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
I'm on yahoo via a T1 and I'm seeing your reply, but not my initial post. how would an ISP be the issue? Does this reflector not reside on Yahoo? Don KA9QJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will never be in Order, because everyones Internet Provider is Different and send things out that get bogged down. Now I know this was not a great Answer, I am not that Computer savvy, but someone on Here can explain it in More Tech terms without this Becoming into a big thread. Happy repeater Building Don KA9QJG PS 45 MPH Winds 8-12 in blowing Snow Hammond Indiana - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 14:51:42 mch wrote: A much faster internet with faster mail servers at YahooGroups. Joe M. radiomog wrote: and what would it take to see that messages show up in order and on a timely basis? The situation is pretty complicated. There are a lot of reasons why emails might not show up in 'order'. Really, your email program should be the thing that sorts and diplays emails. If you use Windws, Eudora and Thunderbird are far FAR safer to run than MS Outlook. Mail systems are frequently many machines working together, and if one of them gets bogged down for some reason its mail might be delayed getting out, even though other mails on the other machines in the system are fine. Mail systems today are *reeling* under the load of spam. It isn't possible to overstate this, and it has weird effects on everything mail related. Yes, there are times when I'd like to throttle Yahoo's email system but overall they do fairly well, and do a better job than most of weeding out spam. Lastly, don't forget that your ISP might be having problems as well, creating delays too. Your ISP has to deal with spam as well, and there are times when they aren't going to be dealing so well, either. Sigh. I remember simpler days when email systems were actually fun to administer... --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
It's not unheard of for email to get 'lost in the mail', either. The speed of your connection is only one issue, and a minor one at that. Another issue nobody has mentioned so far is the fact that some people have their clocks set wrong. This can be ahead or behind - minutes, hours, months, or even years. I've seen many emails sent before the 'current' time. Naturally, the replies will come in 'before' the questions. Your mail server may go down for a few minutes. While the systems will retry to send the post to you, they may not do so immediately. Thus, mail is delayed. A reply might come in before the question. I know anytime I am DLing mail, the server is 'busy' for my mailbox for the minutes this takes. Any mail received during that time is delayed. Your post may show up on the YahooGroups web site, but not be sent to email recipients for hours or days. YahooGroups recently had issues when mail was delayed for several days. Since that time, which it appears they were upgrading their servers, it seems mail has been much faster. Then there is the issue of moderation. It's necessary unless you want a group dominated by spam. All that said, just accept that it's a problem that will not be solved by ANY email service, as they all go through the same internet and they all use mail servers. And I'm certain Yahoo's mail servers are different from those used by YahooGroups. Now, can we get back on-topic? Joe M. Phil wrote: I'm on yahoo via a T1 and I'm seeing your reply, but not my initial post. how would an ISP be the issue? Does this reflector not reside on Yahoo? Don KA9QJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will never be in Order, because everyones Internet Provider is Different and send things out that get bogged down. Now I know this was not a great Answer, I am not that Computer savvy, but someone on Here can explain it in More Tech terms without this Becoming into a big thread. Happy repeater Building Don KA9QJG PS 45 MPH Winds 8-12 in blowing Snow Hammond Indiana -- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
I get the same thing. My email is Bellsouth, therefore I can't expect any better. Yahoo + Bellsouth = POS. Fred N4GER -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of radiomog Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence how does this group run? I've getting posts out of sequence... the here's a weird one.. (~) post showed quite a few responses before the actual post showed up. I'm on yahoo, and its a yahoo group. How does this work, and what would it take to see that messages show up in order and on a timely basis? Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] posts showing up out of sequence
At 12:37 PM 02/13/07, you wrote: It's not unheard of for email to get 'lost in the mail', either. The speed of your connection is only one issue, and a minor one at that. Another issue nobody has mentioned so far is the fact that some people have their clocks set wrong. This can be ahead or behind - minutes, hours, months, or even years. I've seen many emails sent before the 'current' time. Naturally, the replies will come in 'before' the questions. Your mail server may go down for a few minutes. While the systems will retry to send the post to you, they may not do so immediately. Thus, mail is delayed. A reply might come in before the question. I know anytime I am DLing mail, the server is 'busy' for my mailbox for the minutes this takes. Any mail received during that time is delayed. Your post may show up on the YahooGroups web site, but not be sent to email recipients for hours or days. YahooGroups recently had issues when mail was delayed for several days. Since that time, which it appears they were upgrading their servers, it seems mail has been much faster. Then there is the issue of moderation. It's necessary unless you want a group dominated by spam. All that said, just accept that it's a problem that will not be solved by ANY email service, as they all go through the same internet and they all use mail servers. And I'm certain Yahoo's mail servers are different from those used by YahooGroups. Another thing that nobody has mentioned... time zones. Several mailer programs have an option to display mail by the originating time or by the received time. If yours is set to display by the originating time, then when Joe sends a mail at 8pm Eastern and it shows up in Peters mailbox at 5:15 PM Pacific, and replies to it then those who display by originating time will see the reply 3 hours before the original mail. Now, can we get back on-topic? Darned good idea. Joe M. Mike
