Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-04-01 Thread russ
Well I am on my Lap top and it has Auto Fix. I can't fine where to turn it
off. The big problem is it looks good till I send it. Then after it goes off
the sreen it fixes what it does not like.
73 Russ


- Original Message - 
From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


 Russ, you need to get hold of a spell checker. :-)

 (or not have it automatically 'fix' all the things it thinks is wrong.)

 Joe M.

 russ wrote:
 
  The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more
money.
  When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there
  units went away. 2nd was the fact that the new Motorola stuff was not as
  good as the older Micros. Ever since mother M stopped building radio's
in
  the US they went down the tubes. They (the State)compared Johnson,
(there
  number 2 Joyce) Motorola, Midland, MA  Com. For state wide support and
less
  break downs then any of the above. It was Kenwood systems. in fact in
the
  last year the break down rate is less the 1% with Kenwood Systems. I
have a
  copy of the full report form the state if you would like a copy. Neat
  reading. The state of PA went with MA/Com for there state wide system
for
  many of the same reasons. Add one thing Kenwood systems was two Million
  higher then MA/Com. This seems to be going on all over. There was a time
  when Motorola was king. But in the pass few year they have lost more
  contracts then they ever have.
  So that is the answer to the why question.
 
  Very best.
  Russ, W3CH
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver
  with COR
 
  
 In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
  
 Neil - WA6KLA
  
  
   russ wrote:
   
I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
way. Have a great day and a good night.
73,
Russ, W3CH
   
- Original Message -
From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver with COR
   
 I'll have to check that about part 90!!

 Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
 all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
 with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
 the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
 discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
 very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore  Yugos have a lot in
 common.

 If it were me  type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
 Micor or Mastr II as the receiver  the Maggiore as the
 transmitter.

 russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
 
  Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have
  not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
  73 Russ.
 
  On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the
  list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
  Again came out and see a good system well installed.
  73 Russ, W3CH
 
 
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
  Receiver with COR]]]
  
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread russ
I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about Motorola in
the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early years. If it was build
after Paul statrted building them and since 1997 or so they did a 100% turn
around. Ever wonder why the State police in GA stoped useing Motorola and
went to Kenwood systems? Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like
you said if the user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list
today. He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go look
up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess It did not
but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any way.
Have a great day and a good night.
73,
Russ, W3CH


- Original Message - 
From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


 I'll have to check that about part 90!!

 Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is all that
 matters. There are many that have had bad experiences with that equipment.
 This reminds me of a article in the newspaper the other day.  They did an
 article on the Yugo brand of cars, discussing how so many people dislike
them
 but a certain few are very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore  Yugos
have a
 lot in common.

 If it were me  type acceptance was a problem, I would use the Micor or
Mastr
 II as the receiver  the Maggiore as the transmitter.

 russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
 
  Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been
  replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
  73 Russ.
 
  On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list?
Most
  just do not want to get in a back and forth.
  Again came out and see a good system well installed.
  73 Russ, W3CH
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with
  COR]]]
 
 
   Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
   Says who?
  
   russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2
  RCA
and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had
  listed
on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where
not
  ok
   to
use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad
Maggiore
  every
once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the
new
  ones
bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking
  about
has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just
  takes
up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway
 thought
  a
tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff
that
  is
very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day
  time
only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have
 come
  a
long way.
You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again
 the
early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank
  build
and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for
years.
 It
died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe
as
 a
temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the
rest
  of
   my
old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out
  pick a
site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the
  sticks. I
get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was
  suprezed
at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the
  noise
that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I
would
  love
to give you a tour.
Have a great day!
Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
  COR]]
   
   

 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with
   COR]]


  There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire
is
  good
  equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
 
  Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   russ wrote:
  
THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL
NOT
ADMITT.
The way the mother M keeps down the desence
is to not have a lot of sencitive

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread Neil McKie

  In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to 
 Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


russ wrote:
 
 I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about 
 Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early 
 years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since 
 1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State 
 police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems? 
 Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the 
 user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today. 
 He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go 
 look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess 
 It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any 
 way. Have a great day and a good night.
 73,
 Russ, W3CH
 
 - Original Message -
 From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz 
 Receiver with COR
 
  I'll have to check that about part 90!!
 
  Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is 
  all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences 
  with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper 
  the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars, 
  discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are 
  very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore  Yugos have a lot in 
  common.
 
  If it were me  type acceptance was a problem, I would use the 
  Micor or Mastr II as the receiver  the Maggiore as the 
  transmitter.
 
  russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
  
   Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have 
   not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
   73 Russ.
  
   On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the 
   list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
   Again came out and see a good system well installed.
   73 Russ, W3CH
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
   Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz 
   Receiver with COR]]]

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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread russ
The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more money.
When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there
units went away. 2nd was the fact that the new Motorola stuff was not as
good as the older Micros. Ever since mother M stopped building radio's in
the US they went down the tubes. They (the State)compared Johnson, (there
number 2 Joyce) Motorola, Midland, MA  Com. For state wide support and less
break downs then any of the above. It was Kenwood systems. in fact in the
last year the break down rate is less the 1% with Kenwood Systems. I have a
copy of the full report form the state if you would like a copy. Neat
reading. The state of PA went with MA/Com for there state wide system for
many of the same reasons. Add one thing Kenwood systems was two Million
higher then MA/Com. This seems to be going on all over. There was a time
when Motorola was king. But in the pass few year they have lost more
contracts then they ever have.
So that is the answer to the why question.

Very best.
Russ, W3CH

- Original Message - 
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR



   In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
  Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.

   Neil - WA6KLA


 russ wrote:
 
  I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
  Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
  years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
  1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
  police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
  Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
  user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
  He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
  look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
  It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
  way. Have a great day and a good night.
  73,
  Russ, W3CH
 
  - Original Message -
  From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
  Receiver with COR
 
   I'll have to check that about part 90!!
  
   Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
   all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
   with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
   the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
   discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
   very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore  Yugos have a lot in
   common.
  
   If it were me  type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
   Micor or Mastr II as the receiver  the Maggiore as the
   transmitter.
  
   russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
   
Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have
not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
73 Russ.
   
On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the
list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
Again came out and see a good system well installed.
73 Russ, W3CH
   
   
- Original Message -
From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver with COR]]]

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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread Jim B.
brent wrote:

 AGREED
 
 PRICE !!!  save money = more radio(s)
 
 to me as long as they work to my needs they are all great ! ! Tennessee H.P
 went to Kenwood also..had a great package deal.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
 with COR
 
 
 
  In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
 Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.

  Neil - WA6KLA



Actually, Kenwood commercial equipment from the last 10-15 years is on a 
par with any other conventional (non-trunked) equipment out there. I'd 
put a Kenwood up against an _equivalent_ Motorola any day.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread russ
This is very true!
If you like LTR they are ok. They just came out with an APCO system and I
under stand they will have 38 new models this year. I saw a demo at a show
it did not look bad but they will have to be out for a while. I have a
Kenwood TK-8150 in my SUV it has LTR (work) HAm and GMRS all in the same
radio.
Neat radio with a remote (small) control head.
Of corse I have a Kenwood 742 tri band ham rig and a Icom-706 mark two G. I
have a Maxtrac for 927 ham that is getting replaced with a Spectra soon I
hope.
The bottom line is the new Kenwood Systems stuff is real good. BTW it is not
cheap. You get what you pay for. smile

Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH



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From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
with COR


 brent wrote:

  AGREED
 
  PRICE !!!  save money = more radio(s)
 
  to me as long as they work to my needs they are all great ! ! Tennessee
H.P
  went to Kenwood also..had a great package deal.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
Receiver
  with COR
 
 
 
   In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
  Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
 
   Neil - WA6KLA
 
 

 Actually, Kenwood commercial equipment from the last 10-15 years is on a
 par with any other conventional (non-trunked) equipment out there. I'd
 put a Kenwood up against an _equivalent_ Motorola any day.

 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL






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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread mch
Russ, you need to get hold of a spell checker. :-)

(or not have it automatically 'fix' all the things it thinks is wrong.)

Joe M.

russ wrote:
 
 The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more money.
 When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there
 units went away. 2nd was the fact that the new Motorola stuff was not as
 good as the older Micros. Ever since mother M stopped building radio's in
 the US they went down the tubes. They (the State)compared Johnson, (there
 number 2 Joyce) Motorola, Midland, MA  Com. For state wide support and less
 break downs then any of the above. It was Kenwood systems. in fact in the
 last year the break down rate is less the 1% with Kenwood Systems. I have a
 copy of the full report form the state if you would like a copy. Neat
 reading. The state of PA went with MA/Com for there state wide system for
 many of the same reasons. Add one thing Kenwood systems was two Million
 higher then MA/Com. This seems to be going on all over. There was a time
 when Motorola was king. But in the pass few year they have lost more
 contracts then they ever have.
 So that is the answer to the why question.
 
 Very best.
 Russ, W3CH
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver
 with COR
 
 
In my opinion, the reason someone might change from Motorola to
   Kenwood is price ... and perhaps attitude.
 
Neil - WA6KLA
 
 
  russ wrote:
  
   I do not think so on the cars. I think you need to think about
   Motorola in the early years. Maggiore was the same in the early
   years. If it was build after Paul statrted building them and since
   1997 or so they did a 100% turn around. Ever wonder why the State
   police in GA stoped useing Motorola and went to Kenwood systems?
   Any way you are beatting a dead horse. Any way like you said if the
   user likes it it is fine. But like one guy said on the list today.
   He has used evey thing and they all have there place. Please go
   look up the Part 90. It thourgh me for a loop. Part 95 GMRS I guess
   It did not but the Part 90 did. I see so much of it out there. Any
   way. Have a great day and a good night.
   73,
   Russ, W3CH
  
   - Original Message -
   From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
   Receiver with COR
  
I'll have to check that about part 90!!
   
Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is
all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences
with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper
the other day.  They did an article on the Yugo brand of cars,
discussing how so many people dislike them but a certain few are
very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore  Yugos have a lot in
common.
   
If it were me  type acceptance was a problem, I would use the
Micor or Mastr II as the receiver  the Maggiore as the
transmitter.
   
russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.

 Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have
 not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
 73 Russ.

 On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the
 list?  Most just do not want to get in a back and forth.
 Again came out and see a good system well installed.
 73 Russ, W3CH


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 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I never claimed IBOC was a good idea!!

Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL
 
 JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
 Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
anything
 else other than Russ)  I said Russ AND a well know fool on this group.

 However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
stop
 you.
 
 BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
prove
 or dis-prove that!  
 
 John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one
of
 the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee,
my
 claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)
 
 
 russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
 BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When
are
 you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove
me
 a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around.
I
 am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
 words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not
 
 
 the
   
 
 way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all
way
 willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then
so
 be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please
lets
 help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!
 
 73 Russ, W3CH
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
COR]]
 
 
 
 
 There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
 equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
 
 Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 russ wrote:
 
 
 
 THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT.
 The way the mother M keeps down the desence
 is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
   
 
 I
   
 
 do
 
 
 not know how they do it.
 I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell had
   
 
 a
 
 
 Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
   
 
 pair
 
 
 and
   
 
 he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
   
 
 (HE
 
 
 SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
 Maggiore.
 
 Very best of 73,
 Russ, W3CH
 Trustee W3PS/r
 
   
 
 This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
 Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one at
 
 
 a
   
 
 site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
 owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in to
 pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.
 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread Neal Newman






No the fool is the person in your company who said lets put IBOC on
the station then wrote the Check. 1 year later royality check..
another year goes by another royality check...
ect ect.

JOHN MACKEY wrote:

  I never claimed IBOC was a "good" idea!!

Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL

JOHN MACKEY wrote:



  Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
  

  
  anything
  
  

  else other than "Russ")  I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group".
  

  
  
  
  

  However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
  

  
  stop
  
  

  you.

BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
  

  
  prove
  
  

  or dis-prove that!  

John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of one
  

  
  of
  
  

  the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998.  (Gee,
  

  
  my
  
  

  claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)


"russ" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  
  
Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When

  

  
  are
  
  

  
you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove

  

  
  me
  
  

  
a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around.

  

  
  I
  
  

  
am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is not
   


  
  the
 

  
  
way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all

  

  
  way
  
  

  
willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have then

  

  
  so
  
  

  
be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please

  

  
  lets
  
  

  
help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!

73 Russ, W3CH



- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN MACKEY" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with

  

  
  COR]]
  
  

  

   



  There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.

"Jim B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  
  
russ wrote:

   



  THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT.
The way the mother "M" keeps down the desence
is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
 

  

  

  
  I
 

  
  
do
   



  

  not know how they do it.
I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell had
 

  

  

a
   



  

  Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
 

  

  

pair
   



  and
 

  
  

  he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
 

  

  

(HE
   



  

  SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
Maggiore.

Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
Trustee W3PS/r

 

  

This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one at
   


  

  
  a
 

  
  

  
site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in to
pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.

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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
hmmm, I don't know about that... 

When a grant comes down to pay 70 percent of the costs  you can use it to buy
a NEW SOLID STATE transmitter to replace a 23 year old tube transmitter, it
begins to make sense.

(Not to mention a few other benefits)


Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  No the fool is the person in your company who said  lets put IBOC on 
 the station  then wrote the Check. 1 year later royality check.. another 
 year goes by another royality check...
  ect ect.
 
 JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
 I never claimed IBOC was a good idea!!
 
 Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 IBOC FM   I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL
 
 JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
 
 
 Russ - Please RE-READ my statement.  (I never called you a fool or
   
 
 anything
   
 
 else other than Russ)  I said Russ AND a well know fool on this
group.
   
 
 
   
 
 However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I can't
   
 
 stop
   
 
 you.
 
 BTW - I don't have to prove you a fool, your statements and actions will
   
 
 prove
   
 
 or dis-prove that!  
 
 John Mackey, KS0F, GROL, MS, builder of a IBOC-FM station, builder of
one
   
 
 of
   
 
 the very first VOIP repeater linked systems across country in 1998. 
(Gee,
   
 
 my
   
 
 claims are nearly as long as yours, Russ!!)
 
 
 russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
 
   
 
 Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up!
 BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When
 
 
 are
   
 
 you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and
prove
 
 
 me
   
 
 a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems
around.
 
 
 I
   
 
 am not a name caller or a fool. So when are you going to take the (your
 words not any one else's words) to prove me wrong?   Name calling is
not

 
 
 
 the
  
 
   
 
 way to go. Please come and show us all just how smart you are. I am all
 
 
 way
   
 
 willing to learn. If  you can't do more then call names as you have
then
 
 
 so
   
 
 be it. But as far as Maggiore (new stuff) you have no Idea. So please
 
 
 lets
   
 
 help people with good info not half bad info! Or name calling!
 
 73 Russ, W3CH
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
 
 
 COR]]
   
 

 
 
 
 There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good
 equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.
 
 Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
 
   
 
 russ wrote:
 

 
 
 
 THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
ADMITT.
 The way the mother M keeps down the desence
 is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so clean
  
 
   
 
 I
  
 
   
 
 do

 
 
 
 not know how they do it.
 I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites. Fell
had
  
 
   
 
 a

 
 
 
 Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on this
  
 
   
 
 pair

 
 
 
 and
  
 
   
 
 he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and that
  
 
   
 
 (HE

 
 
 
 SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range of the
 Maggiore.
 
 Very best of 73,
 Russ, W3CH
 Trustee W3PS/r
 
  
 
   
 
 This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
 Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw one
at

 
 
 
 a
  
 
   
 
 site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
 owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it in
to
 pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.
 
 -- 
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 WD8CHL
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread albemarle7
To Neal NewmanI think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is referring to me as the fool.  
Obviously he has no idea who I am nor my past contributions to scientific and 
television research.  Having noted past demeaning comments to some from this 
individual, I wish he would keep his negative comments to himself .If he 
continues to degrade people it will deteriorate the purpose of this fine group. 
Neal 
pass along my best to your wife, hope she is now feeling well.  Carol is doing 
fine after her surgery. Russ W3CH sometime we have to meet over coffee. 
Regards to all,  Gary Katona  K2UQ  Trenton, NJ





 
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Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I'll have to check that about part 90!!

Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is all that
matters. There are many that have had bad experiences with that equipment. 
This reminds me of a article in the newspaper the other day.  They did an
article on the Yugo brand of cars, discussing how so many people dislike them
but a certain few are very loyal and happy.  Maybe the Maggiore  Yugos have a
lot in common.

If it were me  type acceptance was a problem, I would use the Micor or Mastr
II as the receiver  the Maggiore as the transmitter.

russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back.
 
 Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been
 replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact.
 73 Russ.
 
 On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list? Most
 just do not want to get in a back and forth.
 Again came out and see a good system well installed.
 73 Russ, W3CH
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
 COR]]]
 
 
  Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!?
  Says who?
 
  russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2
 RCA
   and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had
 listed
   on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where not
 ok
  to
   use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad Maggiore
 every
   once in a while. The old one where bad. I have not seen any of the new
 ones
   bad. I am sure there out there. Just like the stuff you are talking
 about
   has there share of bad ones. We could go back and forth and you just
 takes
   up time. Lots of time. Hey I am an old tube man my self. I alway
thought
 a
   tube was cleaner. I till beleve that but yet we build new TV stuff that
 is
   very high power and not tube. I started my 1st job at a 500 watt day
 time
   only omni with a Gates transmitter. BUT! You know they (and I) have
come
 a
   long way.
   You realy have to look a round. As I have stated time and time again
the
   early Maggiore stuff was crap. I had one of the 1st ones that Frank
 build
   and it was junk. I replaced it with a Micore that ran well for years.
It
   died one winter night and I bought one of the new ones from Maggioe as
a
   temp replacement. I sold the Micore and started replacing all the rest
 of
  my
   old stuff with Maggiore and never looked back. As I said come on out
 pick a
   site. I will let you go see a Maggiore in HIGH Rf areas or in the
 sticks. I
   get suppy any test equment you mite need ot bring your own. I was
 suprezed
   at 1st but they work well and will follow an HT or mobile in to the
 noise
   that outhers even with a pre-amp would not. The offer is open. I would
 love
   to give you a tour.
   Have a great day!
   Very best of 73,
   Russ, W3CH
  
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
   Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
 COR]]
  
  
   
- Original Message - 
From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with
  COR]]
   
   
 There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is
 good
 equipment.  Russ and a well know fool on this group.

 Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  russ wrote:
 
   THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT
   ADMITT.
   The way the mother M keeps down the desence
   is to not have a lot of sencitive but the Maggiore (new) is so
  clean
   I
do
   not know how they do it.
   I have seen what you are talking about at some of our sites.
 Fell
   had
a
   Micore and the receiver would shut. We lent him a maggiore on
 this
pair
 and
   he loves it and his users love it. He fixed up a Mater Two and
 that
(HE
   SAID) works better but the users like the sound and the range
of
  the
   Maggiore.
  
   Very best of 73,
   Russ, W3CH
   Trustee W3PS/r
  
 
  This guys turning into a bit of a troll.
  Maggiore's are dirty, unreliable, broad as a barn, and if I saw
 one
  at
   a
  site I was at, I'd be demanding it be removed. If I was the
  owner/manager of the site, I'd unplug it and tell whoever put it
 in
  to
  pick it up outa the trash bin, and don't darken my door again.
 
  -- 
  Jim Barbour
  WD8CHL
 
 
 
 
 
 
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