Re: [RDD] Voice tracking
Those markers were probably like that since you imported the tracks. It's a common problem. When importing I turn off autotrim, then I go through the tracks and set all the markers manually.Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: anpep...@gmail.comSent: 15 May 2020 01:55To: andy.coop...@gmail.comCc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: Re: [RDD] Voice tracking That's it! Start and end markers were about 10 seconds apart. I looked at the markers, but apparently did not notice the lack of length!Thanks,Andrew On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:22 PM Andy Cooper <andy.coop...@gmail.com> wrote: Could it be the track start and end markers that are in the wrong place for the tracks concerned? I've noticed when importing tracks that sometimes the start and end markers end up together, making the track theoretically 0 seconds in duration. It's just a guess but might have something to do with it.Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: anpep...@gmail.comSent: 14 May 2020 22:51To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: [RDD] Voice tracking I've noticed when voice tracking some tracks that are in the previous track window don't show a waveform and when you hit play they are at the beginning of the track not the end. Other tracks are fine. Is there something in rdlibrary that affects this? Or a known cause/fix for this?ThanksAndrew ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Voice tracking
Could it be the track start and end markers that are in the wrong place for the tracks concerned? I've noticed when importing tracks that sometimes the start and end markers end up together, making the track theoretically 0 seconds in duration. It's just a guess but might have something to do with it.Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: anpep...@gmail.comSent: 14 May 2020 22:51To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: [RDD] Voice tracking I've noticed when voice tracking some tracks that are in the previous track window don't show a waveform and when you hit play they are at the beginning of the track not the end. Other tracks are fine. Is there something in rdlibrary that affects this? Or a known cause/fix for this?ThanksAndrew ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Automatic Log Generation
Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: marius.wiks...@gmail.comSent: 26 April 2020 01:46To: fylbe...@gmail.comCc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: Re: [RDD] Automatic Log Generation I do this in crontab (crontab -e) like this. # if rivendell daemons are running, create the next days log if it doesn't already exist 0 2 * * * [ "`systemctl is-active rivendell`" == "active" ] && /usr/local/bin/rdlogmanager -g -t -P -s Production It creates the next day's log at 2 am (if it doesn't already exist) so it's always a day ahead. Works like a charm. My installation (rdlogmanager) is under /usr/local/bin, but yours might be in /usr/bin -p - generate log -t - merge traffic -P don't overwrite existing log -s Mvh Marius On 4/25/20 9:34 PM, Phil Biehl wrote: I have logs working more or less correctly in RDAirplay but I seem to have a problem. When the log runs to the chain event to the next days log, it fails and RDAirplay stops because there is no log to chain to. If there is a log then all is well. How are log automatically generated? Any ideas why it isn’t getting generated? Thanks all,Phil ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] m-audio delta410 setup
Does that card have digital and analogue breakout cables? Mine has both although I only use analogue. If you suspect the breakout cable maybe you could try different inputs if you have any spare Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: anpep...@gmail.comSent: 25 April 2020 15:14To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: Re: [RDD] m-audio delta410 setup Yes it's seeing it. And I have it configured for playing out on AirPlay and LogEdit.It's the inputs I can't seem to get working... but after installing Envy24Control to look directly at the soundcard I think I possibly have a bad input cable or something not right with the actual card ... more digging needed.Thanks for the sanity check!On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:41 AM Andy Cooper <andy.coop...@gmail.com> wrote: I can't point you to a guide, but I've just set up a 1010LT, which is probably similar. I found I had to go into admin > alsamixer to make sure the machine was seeing and using the card. Then you have to set up every bit of Rivendell individually, such as Airplay, Library, Catch etc to use the exact ports on the card you want. I think I got to those in the Hosts or Services settings in RD admin, but I'm not infront of the machine right now, so can't say for sure.Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: anpep...@gmail.comSent: 25 April 2020 14:26To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: [RDD] m-audio delta410 setup I'm trying to get my m-audio delta410 configured properly so I can do voice tracking etc.I don't seem to be able to find an "idiots guide" online for setting this card up. Any pointers?TIAAndrew ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] m-audio delta410 setup
I can't point you to a guide, but I've just set up a 1010LT, which is probably similar. I found I had to go into admin > alsamixer to make sure the machine was seeing and using the card. Then you have to set up every bit of Rivendell individually, such as Airplay, Library, Catch etc to use the exact ports on the card you want. I think I got to those in the Hosts or Services settings in RD admin, but I'm not infront of the machine right now, so can't say for sure.Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: anpep...@gmail.comSent: 25 April 2020 14:26To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: [RDD] m-audio delta410 setup I'm trying to get my m-audio delta410 configured properly so I can do voice tracking etc.I don't seem to be able to find an "idiots guide" online for setting this card up. Any pointers?TIAAndrew ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue transition?
Thanks David, I'll give that a go. I changed the default transition for
something, but can't remember off the top of my head is it was for RDairplay,
RDlogmanager or something else. Today I've installed Riv 2.19 and I can
confirm, as Drew already said, it's not an issue with version 2
Andy
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Subject: Re: [RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue
transition?
Hey Folks,
tl;dr: check the default transition types in RDAirPlay and RDLogEdit.
On Thu, 2020-03-05 at 08:20 +, Andy Cooper wrote:
> Ok, It's a new day now here in the UK, so I'll be back at trying to get
> Rivendell working as a server and client setup this afternoon.
>
> I agree entirely with Chuck. I'm also trying to make every cart have a segue
> transition to keep things nice and tight on air. But with Rivendell v3 that
> doesn't appear to be possible.
>
I too concur with Chuck's thought -- not sure why Segue transition is an
option. Maybe simply Rivendell's historical "baggage"?
> My concern as someone looking to select a playout system for a new station,
> is that there could be other bugs in v3. So should I be installing v2, or
> even something totally different instead?
>
Have you checked the default transition types in RDAirPlay and RDLogEdit
(RDAdmin->Manage Hosts->[hostname]->{RDLogEdit,RDAirPlay} ?
It's not clear to me that these settings have an effect on creating or editing
Events in RDLogManager (that is, I haven't looked at the source code), but I
fiddled with default settings. With the defaults set to "Segue" I can create a
new Event (on version 3.2.1) and the Segue transition was available (not
greyed out) for "Imported carts have a" setting. Then I changed the defaults
to "Play" and the "Import carts have a" setting was greyed out.
So I recommend checking and/or changing the defaults as another attempt to
make "Segue" available when creating an Event.
Hope this helps!
~David Klann
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Re: [RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue transition?
Ok, It's a new day now here in the UK, so I'll be back at trying to get Rivendell working as a server and client setup this afternoon. I agree entirely with Chuck. I'm also trying to make every cart have a segue transition to keep things nice and tight on air. But with Rivendell v3 that doesn't appear to be possible. My concern as someone looking to select a playout system for a new station, is that there could be other bugs in v3. So should I be installing v2, or even something totally different instead? Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device Original Message From: dj.chuc...@googlemail.com Sent: 5 March 2020 02:03 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue transition? I am in programming and definitely not an IT pro, but have never understood why there is a need for the Play vs Segue issue. From the get-go, I set our system up as Segue only. If no segue markers are set, the cart acts as if it were assigned as Play--even in an all-Segue setup. With this method, there's one less element in the decision process for each cart. There has never been anything we have wanted to do that we cannot with this setup--in either live or log-generation circumstances. We run fairly tight production and like the ability to start voice carts over the fade/ringout at the end of carts with music. But for voice carts or programs with no segues set, those air in an all-segue setup the same as if they were executed as a Play transition. Same is true when playing in Manual mode: all carts air as if they were Play, even if they have segue markers set. --Chuck > On We Mar 4 17:10:24 EST 2020 > Robert Jeffares jeffares.robert at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Andy, > > the events imported from V2 to V3 here have Segue where previously > applied. > > new scheduler events cannot be set to 'First Cart Has A' [Segue] in > V3 > > works in V2 > > Something missed in the EVENT code in the translation from V2 to V3. > > needs to be put in the bug alert system. > > There will be the odd one or two of these floating by. > > regards > > Robert > > > On 5/03/20 7:22 am, Andy Cooper wrote: > > > > Following my post yesterday, I'm still having trouble creating > > events they way I want them in RDlogmanager. All I want is an > > event that selects a random audio cart and puts it in a clock > > with a segue transition. The problem is I can't set the > > transition type for the first cart in an event if it's imported > > from the library and doesn't have a hard start time. The menu > > box to allow me to set "first cart has a . transition" is > > always grayed out and always defaults to a play transition if > > a hard start is not set. > > > > I don't want to use play transitions for the hours of automation, > > so what should I do? Has anyone else run up against this problem > > with Rivendell v3? I imagine anyone automatically scheduling > > music will have encountered it. > > > > I would like to know what versions of Rivendell don't have this > > problem. It looks like I'm going to scrap v3 and go back to an > > earlier version. What does everyone else use? > > > > Andy > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device > > -- > Communication Consultants 2020 Limited > 64 Warner Park Avenue > Laingholm > Auckland 0604 > New Zealand ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue transition?
I think I'm going to try installing v2 of Rivendell rather than v3 and see if that solves my problem with the event creation. Having done a bit of online research, it seems most people are still using v2 and some say v3 is a bit unstable. Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: zotz...@gmail.comSent: 4 March 2020 19:58To: andy.coop...@gmail.comCc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: Re: [RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue transition? Andy,if you will come into irc and look for me (zotz) I will try and help you set up that hack workaround I am talking about. Like I say, I am not sure I would go into production with it, but you could test it.your call.irc.freenode.net channel #rivendellall the best,drewOn Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:22 PM Andy Cooper <andy.coop...@gmail.com> wrote: Following my post yesterday, I'm still having trouble creating events they way I want them in RDlogmanager. All I want is an event that selects a random audio cart and puts it in a clock with a segue transition. The problem is I can't set the transition type for the first cart in an event if it's imported from the library and doesn't have a hard start time. The menu box to allow me to set "first cart has a . transition" is always grayed out and always defaults to a play transition if a hard start is not set.I don't want to use play transitions for the hours of automation, so what should I do? Has anyone else run up against this problem with Rivendell v3? I imagine anyone automatically scheduling music will have encountered it.I would like to know what versions of Rivendell don't have this problem. It looks like I'm going to scrap v3 and go back to an earlier version. What does everyone else use?Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Enjoy the Paradise Island Cam playingBahamian Or Nuttin - https://www.paradiseislandcam.com/ ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] How do I create an event with one music cart and a segue transition?
Following my post yesterday, I'm still having trouble creating events they way I want them in RDlogmanager. All I want is an event that selects a random audio cart and puts it in a clock with a segue transition. The problem is I can't set the transition type for the first cart in an event if it's imported from the library and doesn't have a hard start time. The menu box to allow me to set "first cart has a . transition" is always grayed out and always defaults to a play transition if a hard start is not set.I don't want to use play transitions for the hours of automation, so what should I do? Has anyone else run up against this problem with Rivendell v3? I imagine anyone automatically scheduling music will have encountered it.I would like to know what versions of Rivendell don't have this problem. It looks like I'm going to scrap v3 and go back to an earlier version. What does everyone else use?Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Can't set events to seg transition - Rivendell V3
Hi Drew,Thanks for your effort, but it doesn't work. It works up until I remove the hard start time. I can get Segue in all 3 boxes, first cart transition is still greyed out though. At that stage I have Segue Timed (make next), scheduler. If I open the event for editing again everything is set to seg but middle one of the three is greyed out. I then remove the hard start time check-box and everything keeps saying segue, top one then also greys out. However if I save it again and look on the upper level it's gone back to Play, Scheduler.This looks like a serious bug and I find it hard to believe nobody has come across this before. This might stop our new station adopting Rivendell unless a fix can be found.Thanks for trying!Andy Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device From: zotz...@gmail.comSent: 4 March 2020 03:15To: andy.coop...@gmail.comCc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orgSubject: Re: [RDD] Can't set events to seg transition - Rivendell V3 Andy,I may have a workaround for you. It is a bit involved but it seems to work.(I hope I get this right.)drag a cart into the pre-import cart area.click / select Use hard start time.change the play to segue just under that bit.click saveclick okEvent properties in the "higher level" should show SEGUE, Timed(Start), Scheduleredit the event again.unselect Use hard start time.Delete the pre import cart.click saveclick okEvent properties in the "higher level" should show PLAY, Scheduleredit the event again.the first cart has a Segue transition should be grayed out but it *should* be Segue and not Play now.click OK.Generate a log.You should see SEGUE transitions in the generated log...all the best,drewOn Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 6:33 PM Andy Cooper <andy.coop...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Drew,It looks like you've understood and replicated my problem pretty well. The difference betweeen you examples and mine is that on yours the "first cart has a..." has segue greyed out and my "first cart has a..." has play greyed out.I tried setting imported carts to seg transition, working on your theory that the first cart is one of all the carts. But when I generated a log and checked it in RDAirPlay it was definitely generating events with play transitions.However, if I physically put a cart in the pre-imported cart section then generate the log, both the pre-imported cart and the music item generated somehow have a segue transition. The problem is I don't want the pre-imported cart showing up in the log every time I run the event, so it's not a viable work-around.Perhaps the answer is to scrap V3 and go back to V2? Do you think that would solve it?Thanks,AndyOn Tue, 3 Mar 2020, 23:07 drew Roberts, <zotz...@gmail.com> wrote:Andrew,I don't know the answers but I did a little digging for you...However, there is a chance that this is not a problem.On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 4:20 PM Andrew Cooper <andy.coop...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all. I'm new to the list and have been driven here out of desperation, in the hope that someone can help. I've used the old RRAbuntu live CD for years, but I've now taken the plunge to checkout Rivendell V3 on CentOS 7 because I'll be setting up a studio for a new online radio station in the summer and I wanted to try it out. However I've come up against a problem that I'm hoping someone can help with... When I open the Log Manager and try to create a new event I can't make it select music out of the library with a 'seg' transition, unless I set it to use a hard start time. About halfway down the screen for setting up the event is a line that says 'First cart has a PLAY transition', with play being in a box that I should be able to select.Perhaps not. I know on older versions you could. I have a 2.10.2 on kvm3 and a 3.2.1 on kvm4...Both the First cart has a: and Imported carts have a: can be accessed in the older version but only the Imported carts have a: can be accessed in the new.However, semantics wise, technically, all carts are imported... So you may be ok.Have you tried it and seen if you get a segue for the first cart? However the box is always greyed out so I can't change it to 'SEGUE' instead of play. If I select the hard start time button at the top I can sometimes make it switch to segue on it's own, but I don't want a hard start time. What I'm trying to do is create an event for inserting one random music track from the library with a segue transition. I could do this with the old version packaged with RRAbuntu no problem. But in V3 I can't change 'first cart has a PLAY transition' and because the event only contains one cart, it means it's always a play transition!I would not be too sure about that... Things *may* have changed. Either wait for an official answer or run a sample and test you
Re: [RDD] Can't set events to seg transition - Rivendell V3
Hi Drew, It looks like you've understood and replicated my problem pretty well. The difference betweeen you examples and mine is that on yours the "first cart has a..." has segue greyed out and my "first cart has a..." has play greyed out. I tried setting imported carts to seg transition, working on your theory that the first cart is one of all the carts. But when I generated a log and checked it in RDAirPlay it was definitely generating events with play transitions. However, if I physically put a cart in the pre-imported cart section then generate the log, both the pre-imported cart and the music item generated somehow have a segue transition. The problem is I don't want the pre-imported cart showing up in the log every time I run the event, so it's not a viable work-around. Perhaps the answer is to scrap V3 and go back to V2? Do you think that would solve it? Thanks, Andy On Tue, 3 Mar 2020, 23:07 drew Roberts, wrote: > Andrew, > > I don't know the answers but I did a little digging for you... > > However, there is a chance that this is not a problem. > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 4:20 PM Andrew Cooper > wrote: > >> Hi all. I'm new to the list and have been driven here out of >> desperation, in the hope that someone can help. I've used the old >> RRAbuntu live CD for years, but I've now taken the plunge to checkout >> Rivendell V3 on CentOS 7 because I'll be setting up a studio for a new >> online radio station in the summer and I wanted to try it out. However >> I've come up against a problem that I'm hoping someone can help with... >> >> When I open the Log Manager and try to create a new event I can't make >> it select music out of the library with a 'seg' transition, unless I set >> it to use a hard start time. About halfway down the screen for setting >> up the event is a line that says 'First cart has a PLAY transition', >> with play being in a box that I should be able to select. > > > Perhaps not. I know on older versions you could. I have a 2.10.2 on kvm3 > and a 3.2.1 on kvm4... > > Both the First cart has a: and Imported carts have a: can be accessed in > the older version but only the Imported carts have a: can be accessed in > the new. > > However, semantics wise, technically, all carts are imported... So you may > be ok. > > Have you tried it and seen if you get a segue for the first cart? > > >> However the >> box is always greyed out so I can't change it to 'SEGUE' instead of >> play. If I select the hard start time button at the top I can sometimes >> make it switch to segue on it's own, but I don't want a hard start time. >> >> What I'm trying to do is create an event for inserting one random music >> track from the library with a segue transition. I could do this with the >> old version packaged with RRAbuntu no problem. But in V3 I can't change >> 'first cart has a PLAY transition' and because the event only contains >> one cart, it means it's always a play transition! >> > > I would not be too sure about that... Things *may* have changed. Either > wait for an official answer or run a sample and test yourself. > >> >> I'm pretty sure it's either a bug keeping the box greyed out or there's >> something I'm missing in the settings somewhere. >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. >> > > Now, here come some screenshots. This is a 2.x database updated to 3.x > (but not the same 2.x as I have here.) > > rivsegueevents00.png > > TZ1 is a newly created test event. Had the same issues creating as you > describe. > X is an old event. Looks like what you say you want. Shows a grayed out > Segue for inaccessible First cart has a: selection. > > rivsegueevents01.png > > Event X showing grayed out Segue mentioned. > > rivsegueevents02.png > > Event TZ1 shows a greyed out Segue after futzing around but note that this > disagrees with the display one level up. > > rivsegueevents03.png > > One level up again, showing event XX as well this time... XX was created > by opening event X and saving as XX. Note that XX and TZ1 show > PLAY,Scheduler at this level but check next screenshot. > > rivsegueevents04.png > > Back down a level for event XX. Note Segue, Segue which does not match the > level up. > > Also note that it has changed the X under the and code which now shows > none instead of X. This may be a good thing... I did not create the event. > Not sure of the thinking behind requiring a scheduler code twice. > >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Andy Cooper >> >> all the best, > > drew > -- > Enjoy the *Paradise Island Cam* playing > *Bahamian Or Nuttin* - https://www.paradiseislandcam.com/ > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
