Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-08-03 Thread Todd Baker 
Hi Seth, 

I have ported it before - but this newer one has a few libraries 
- the original source tar from Audacity can be built in Linux 
"relatively" easily. 

The tricky part always is adding the specific libraries you need so 
that it will work with Rivendell database and it's components. 

This program has several libraries you would need to compile it with: 
LIBCURL, MySql, EXPAT XML parser Lib, and Rivendell-C-LIB (which I wrote). 

The first three libraries are readily available and Rivendell-C-Lib exists on a 
github link which I will direct people to. ( 
https://github.com/RadioFreeAsia/rivendell-c-api ). 

So - how easy ?? - I don't really know.. but not impossible to do... 

The Rivendell-C-Library is pretty easy to compile in Linux, 
which is where it was developed. As for the other libraries, 
they shouldn't be to hard to build/find.. 

Todd Baker 

From: "Seth Stevenson" <rcflye...@gmail.com> 
To: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org> 
Cc: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
<rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>, dkl...@linux.com, "Al Peterson" 
<apeter...@radioamerica.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:48:12 AM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 



How easy would it be to get to run on Linux? 
On Aug 3, 2016 9:33 AM, "Todd Baker" < bak...@rfa.org > wrote: 


Dear All: 

I have gotten the go ahead to make our Audacity version available for people to 
compile 
and use... 

Will be making sure that all the licensing and trademark stuff is on the up and 
up... so that make take a few. 
But hopefully I can release something in a few days or so. 

Our Windows 10 version works on both older Rivendell versions (1.5.2) and 
newer Rivendell 2.0 versions - via a Portable Settings file configuration. 
So, anyone that wants to use this will have to do some configuring to make 
it work for them. There is also specific user information constraints that 
may have to be compiled and or configured in.. so I will look at how to 
explain/configure that (Rivendell user needs permission to access content). 

The code "should" work in other OS environments, but I haven't built it 
anywhere else recently - so that will be an evolving animal I expect. 

Current names on the running are: 
RDacity 
AudioBaker 
AudioRiv 

Anybody got any other name ideas? 

Will let you know when I have more information.. 

Thanks, 

Todd Baker 
Radio Free Asia, Washington D.C. 

- Original Message - 
From: "David Klann" < dkl...@linux.com > 
To: "Todd Baker" < bak...@rfa.org >, "Al Peterson" < apeter...@radioamerica.com 
> 
Cc: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" < 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:23:35 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 

+1 for RDacity! 

Todd, I'd be willing and eager to help with your Linux porting, 
packaging and/or testing. Let me know on or off list if you'd like. 

Thanks! 

~David Klann 
WDRT, Viroqua, WI 


On 07/28/2016 01:14 PM, Todd Baker wrote: 
> Ah... 
> 
> A very good name as well... 
> 
> Tb 
> 
>  
> *From: *"Al Peterson" < apeter...@radioamerica.com > 
> *To: *"Todd Baker" < bak...@rfa.org > 
> *Cc: *"ermina" < erm...@studioplume.com >, "User discussion about the 
> Rivendell Radio Automation System" < rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > 
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:09:08 PM 
> *Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 
> 
> My vote is for "*RD*acity" (arr-/das/-sity) 
> ap 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Todd Baker < bak...@rfa.org 
> > wrote: 
> 
> ... because of trademark issues, we can't call it Audacity, they 
> have the rights to that name. AudioRiv maybe? 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-08-03 Thread Cowboy 
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 09:33:15 -0400 (EDT)
Todd Baker  wrote:

> Anybody got any other name ideas?

 Audacity++
 
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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-08-03 Thread Seth Stevenson 
How easy would it be to get to run on Linux?
On Aug 3, 2016 9:33 AM, "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org> wrote:

> Dear All:
>
>I have gotten the go ahead to make our Audacity version available for
> people to compile
> and use...
>
> Will be making sure that all the licensing and trademark stuff is on the
> up and up... so that make take a few.
> But hopefully I can release something in a few days or so.
>
> Our Windows 10 version works on both older Rivendell versions (1.5.2) and
> newer Rivendell 2.0 versions - via a Portable Settings file configuration.
> So, anyone that wants to use this will have to do some configuring to make
> it work for them. There is also specific user information constraints that
> may have to be compiled and or configured in.. so I will look at how to
> explain/configure that (Rivendell user needs permission to access content).
>
> The code "should" work in other OS environments, but I haven't built it
> anywhere else recently - so that will be an evolving animal I expect.
>
> Current names on the running are:
>  RDacity
>  AudioBaker
>  AudioRiv
>
> Anybody got any other name ideas?
>
> Will let you know when I have more information..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Baker
> Radio Free Asia, Washington D.C.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Klann" <dkl...@linux.com>
> To: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>, "Al Peterson" <
> apeter...@radioamerica.com>
> Cc: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" <
> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:23:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?
>
> +1 for RDacity!
>
> Todd, I'd be willing and eager to help with your Linux porting,
> packaging and/or testing. Let me know on or off list if you'd like.
>
> Thanks!
>
>   ~David Klann
>WDRT, Viroqua, WI
>
>
> On 07/28/2016 01:14 PM, Todd Baker wrote:
> > Ah...
> >
> >A very good name as well...
> >
> > Tb
> >
> > 
> > *From: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com>
> > *To: *"Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>
> > *Cc: *"ermina" <erm...@studioplume.com>, "User discussion about the
> > Rivendell Radio Automation System" <
> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> > *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:09:08 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?
> >
> > My vote is for "*RD*acity" (arr-/das/-sity)
> > ap
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Todd Baker <bak...@rfa.org
> > <mailto:bak...@rfa.org>> wrote:
> >
> > ... because of trademark issues, we can't call it Audacity, they
> > have the rights to that name. AudioRiv maybe?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-08-03 Thread Todd Baker 
Dear All:

   I have gotten the go ahead to make our Audacity version available for people 
to compile
and use... 

Will be making sure that all the licensing and trademark stuff is on the up and 
up... so that make take a few.
But hopefully I can release something in a few days or so.

Our Windows 10 version works on both older Rivendell versions (1.5.2) and
newer Rivendell 2.0 versions - via a Portable Settings file configuration.
So, anyone that wants to use this will have to do some configuring to make
it work for them. There is also specific user information constraints that
may have to be compiled and or configured in.. so I will look at how to
explain/configure that (Rivendell user needs permission to access content).

The code "should" work in other OS environments, but I haven't built it
anywhere else recently - so that will be an evolving animal I expect.  

Current names on the running are:
 RDacity 
 AudioBaker
 AudioRiv

Anybody got any other name ideas?

Will let you know when I have more information..

Thanks,

Todd Baker
Radio Free Asia, Washington D.C.

- Original Message -
From: "David Klann" <dkl...@linux.com>
To: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>, "Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com>
Cc: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
<rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:23:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

+1 for RDacity!

Todd, I'd be willing and eager to help with your Linux porting,
packaging and/or testing. Let me know on or off list if you'd like.

Thanks!

  ~David Klann
   WDRT, Viroqua, WI


On 07/28/2016 01:14 PM, Todd Baker wrote:
> Ah...  
> 
>A very good name as well...
> 
> Tb
> 
> 
> *From: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com>
> *To: *"Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>
> *Cc: *"ermina" <erm...@studioplume.com>, "User discussion about the
> Rivendell Radio Automation System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:09:08 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?
> 
> My vote is for "*RD*acity" (arr-/das/-sity)
> ap
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Todd Baker <bak...@rfa.org
> <mailto:bak...@rfa.org>> wrote:
> 
> ... because of trademark issues, we can't call it Audacity, they
> have the rights to that name. AudioRiv maybe?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-29 Thread Cowboy 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:21:43 -0400 (EDT)
Todd Baker  wrote:

> It uses a Rivendell C API Library (which I wrote with lots of help
> from Fred G.) to talk to the Rivendell Web API to put things in/take
> things out of Rivendell.

 While I tend to agree with Fred, that *production* type edits belong
 in the production room, the production suite, and no where on a
 Rivendell play-out machine, I can see certain advantages to the
 ability to make quick edits.

 A respectable notion, though with the potential to be abused.
 Hopefully, the Audacity folks are sharp enough to realize
 the synergy here, and fold this into the main line.

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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-29 Thread Wayne Merricks 
Just as an FYI, I use Audacity and JACK to share the sound card with 
Riv.  Via Audacity preferences and some JACK wizardry we even force 
Audacity to not use the main play out so in essence you can record and 
play back while live on air without making Audacity live.


The options to open the library etc directly seem interesting though.

Regards,

Wayne

On 28/07/16 21:28, Tom Van Gorkom wrote:
Interesting. We use Audacity on our Riv machines to do quick edits but 
have not used it for critical recording mainly because I wasn't sure 
how clean and professional it would be and because we would need to 
install a second high quality sound card for recording. When editing, 
we play back over the MB sound or a simple sound card. I guess if we 
don't care about clean balanced inputs we could use a regular card. 
It's just simpler for the operator to record into the Riv playout when 
he is doing a live interview but I can rearrange things and no, pause 
in that case isn't super critical.


Still learning the best way to do things,

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Todd Baker <bak...@rfa.org 
<mailto:bak...@rfa.org>> wrote:


Just checked - Yes - the Riv C Library is out there

https://github.com/RadioFreeAsia/rivendell-c-api

That what the Audacity version uses to talk to 2.0 Rivendell systems.

Todd B.


*From: *"Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org <mailto:bak...@rfa.org>>
*To: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com
<mailto:apeter...@radioamerica.com>>
*Cc: *"User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation
System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
<mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>>
    *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:21:43 PM

*Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

Dear Al,
  Sorry - I missed that Posting somehow..

Yes, the Audacity code we added is kinda like that - specifically
   Menu Choices under File
Browse Rivendell Library
Export To Rivendell Library
Export Selection to Rivendell Library.

The version we originally used (and still use) did this via Mysql
calls, and a Samba mount, and we copied the data from
Windows->Linux...

The latest version - (which I have yet to test thoroughly -
because we are not there yet... we are still on Old Rivendell 1.5
believe it or not...)
is Rivendell 2.0 compatible. It uses a Rivendell C API Library
(which I wrote with lots of help from Fred G.) to talk to the
Rivendell
Web API to put things in/take things out of Rivendell.  Since
Rivendell 2.0 doesn't allow direct content access - you have to
use the web interface - (ie apache).
so I wrote the C API to create the http calls to pass into the
Rivendell Web API.  Our production version IS running with the new
code - it simply isn't
using the new code cause it figures out which DB it sees - and
since we are not on the 2.0 database schema - it doesn't use that
new code.
(There are 100 plus Windows machines running Audacity - so WHEN we
do upgrade to 2.0 - I needed it to be smart enough to easily be
flipped
to 2.0 - rather than manually install 100 + NEW executables - but
I digress)...

The Riv C API Library isn't out on  GitHub yet I don't think - it
may only be in house right now.will have to check.

I have tested the Rivendell 2.0 version - but it has not been put
into Production use "Yet" That's a ways down the road for us -
for too many reasons to list here - ...

The only caveat about the new 2.0 version is that the Mysql calls
are still in the code - because we needed to have browse capability,
and the Web API simply did not work well for giving us a list of
Carts/Cuts and sorting capabilities (you can sort on Cut
Description, Cart Title, Cart/Cut Number
in our version when browsing the library).

Getting Mysql libraries to work is a bit of work, especially since
Audacity uses Visual Studio C++, WxWidgets, etc but it
works...and I did write a version
a few years ago for Ubuntu, (and I also wrote one for Mac - but I
have no idea where that code isand I start sweating just
thinking about it... ;)...

We have been using our Audacity version for Rivendell  1.5.2 for
8+ years...Latest Audacity versions I have built with are Audacity
2.0.3 (Win 7) and
Audacity  2.1.2. (Win 10).

Best Regards,
Todd

*From: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com
<

Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread Tom Van Gorkom 
Interesting. We use Audacity on our Riv machines to do quick edits but have
not used it for critical recording mainly because I wasn't sure how clean
and professional it would be and because we would need to install a second
high quality sound card for recording. When editing, we play back over the
MB sound or a simple sound card. I guess if we don't care about clean
balanced inputs we could use a regular card. It's just simpler for the
operator to record into the Riv playout when he is doing a live interview
but I can rearrange things and no, pause in that case isn't super critical.

Still learning the best way to do things,

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Todd Baker <bak...@rfa.org> wrote:

> Just checked - Yes - the Riv C Library is out there
>
> https://github.com/RadioFreeAsia/rivendell-c-api
>
> That what the Audacity version uses to talk to 2.0 Rivendell systems.
>
> Todd B.
>
> --
> *From: *"Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>
> *To: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com>
> *Cc: *"User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" <
> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:21:43 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?
>
> Dear Al,
>   Sorry - I missed that Posting somehow..
>
> Yes, the Audacity code we added is kinda like that - specifically
>Menu Choices under File
> Browse Rivendell Library
> Export To Rivendell Library
> Export Selection to Rivendell Library.
>
> The version we originally used (and still use) did this via Mysql calls,
> and a Samba mount, and we copied the data from Windows->Linux...
>
> The latest version - (which I have yet to test thoroughly - because we are
> not there yet... we are still on Old Rivendell 1.5 believe it or not...)
> is Rivendell 2.0 compatible. It uses a Rivendell C API Library (which I
> wrote with lots of help from Fred G.) to talk to the Rivendell
> Web API to put things in/take things out of Rivendell.  Since Rivendell
> 2.0 doesn't allow direct content access - you have to use the web interface
> - (ie apache).
> so I wrote the C API to create the http calls to pass into the Rivendell
> Web API.  Our production version IS running with the new code - it simply
> isn't
> using the new code cause it figures out which DB it sees - and since we
> are not on the 2.0 database schema - it doesn't use that new code.
> (There are 100 plus Windows machines running Audacity - so WHEN we do
> upgrade to 2.0 - I needed it to be smart enough to easily be flipped
> to 2.0 - rather than manually install 100 + NEW executables - but I
> digress)...
>
> The Riv C API Library isn't out on  GitHub yet I don't think - it may only
> be in house right now.will have to check.
>
> I have tested the Rivendell 2.0 version - but it has not been put into
> Production use "Yet" That's a ways down the road for us - for too many
> reasons to list here - ...
>
> The only caveat about the new 2.0 version is that the Mysql calls are
> still in the code - because we needed to have browse capability,
> and the Web API simply did not work well for giving us a list of
> Carts/Cuts and sorting capabilities (you can sort on Cut Description, Cart
> Title, Cart/Cut Number
> in our version when browsing the library).
>
> Getting Mysql libraries to work is a bit of work, especially since
> Audacity uses Visual Studio C++, WxWidgets, etc but it works...and I
> did write a version
> a few years ago for Ubuntu, (and I also wrote one for Mac - but I have no
> idea where that code isand I start sweating just thinking about it...
> ;)...
>
> We have been using our Audacity version for Rivendell  1.5.2 for 8+
> years...Latest Audacity versions I have built with are Audacity 2.0.3 (Win
> 7) and
> Audacity  2.1.2. (Win 10).
>
> Best Regards,
> Todd
> ----------
> *From: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com>
> *To: *"Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>, "User discussion about the Rivendell
> Radio Automation System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:29:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?
>
> Todd, had you seen my posting from around 9AM today?
>
> *** How about the inclusion on the Appliance Disk
> of a custom tweak of Audacity for CentOS, but
> with one major mod: two new "Save/Export"
> Menu choices that allow *Export Selec

Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread Todd Baker 
Just checked - Yes - the Riv C Library is out there 

https://github.com/RadioFreeAsia/rivendell-c-api 

That what the Audacity version uses to talk to 2.0 Rivendell systems. 

Todd B. 


From: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org> 
To: "Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com> 
Cc: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
<rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:21:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 

Dear Al, 
Sorry - I missed that Posting somehow.. 

Yes, the Audacity code we added is kinda like that - specifically 
Menu Choices under File 
Browse Rivendell Library 
Export To Rivendell Library 
Export Selection to Rivendell Library. 

The version we originally used (and still use) did this via Mysql calls, and a 
Samba mount, and we copied the data from Windows->Linux... 

The latest version - (which I have yet to test thoroughly - because we are not 
there yet... we are still on Old Rivendell 1.5 believe it or not...) 
is Rivendell 2.0 compatible. It uses a Rivendell C API Library (which I wrote 
with lots of help from Fred G.) to talk to the Rivendell 
Web API to put things in/take things out of Rivendell. Since Rivendell 2.0 
doesn't allow direct content access - you have to use the web interface - (ie 
apache). 
so I wrote the C API to create the http calls to pass into the Rivendell Web 
API. Our production version IS running with the new code - it simply isn't 
using the new code cause it figures out which DB it sees - and since we are not 
on the 2.0 database schema - it doesn't use that new code. 
(There are 100 plus Windows machines running Audacity - so WHEN we do upgrade 
to 2.0 - I needed it to be smart enough to easily be flipped 
to 2.0 - rather than manually install 100 + NEW executables - but I digress)... 

The Riv C API Library isn't out on GitHub yet I don't think - it may only be in 
house right now.will have to check. 

I have tested the Rivendell 2.0 version - but it has not been put into 
Production use "Yet" That's a ways down the road for us - for too many 
reasons to list here - ... 

The only caveat about the new 2.0 version is that the Mysql calls are still in 
the code - because we needed to have browse capability, 
and the Web API simply did not work well for giving us a list of Carts/Cuts and 
sorting capabilities (you can sort on Cut Description, Cart Title, Cart/Cut 
Number 
in our version when browsing the library). 

Getting Mysql libraries to work is a bit of work, especially since Audacity 
uses Visual Studio C++, WxWidgets, etc but it works...and I did write a 
version 
a few years ago for Ubuntu, (and I also wrote one for Mac - but I have no idea 
where that code isand I start sweating just thinking about it... ;)... 

We have been using our Audacity version for Rivendell 1.5.2 for 8+ 
years...Latest Audacity versions I have built with are Audacity 2.0.3 (Win 7) 
and 
Audacity 2.1.2. (Win 10). 

Best Regards, 
Todd 

From: "Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com> 
To: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>, "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio 
Automation System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:29:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 

Todd, had you seen my posting from around 9AM today? 

*** How about the inclusion on the Appliance Disk 
of a custom tweak of Audacity for CentOS, but 
with one major mod: two new "Save/Export" 
Menu choices that allow Export Selection Directly 
to RDLIbrary and Export Selection Directly to RDCartSlots ?*** 

Is this how your spin works? 

AP 



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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread Todd Baker 
Dear Al, 
Sorry - I missed that Posting somehow.. 

Yes, the Audacity code we added is kinda like that - specifically 
Menu Choices under File 
Browse Rivendell Library 
Export To Rivendell Library 
Export Selection to Rivendell Library. 

The version we originally used (and still use) did this via Mysql calls, and a 
Samba mount, and we copied the data from Windows->Linux... 

The latest version - (which I have yet to test thoroughly - because we are not 
there yet... we are still on Old Rivendell 1.5 believe it or not...) 
is Rivendell 2.0 compatible. It uses a Rivendell C API Library (which I wrote 
with lots of help from Fred G.) to talk to the Rivendell 
Web API to put things in/take things out of Rivendell. Since Rivendell 2.0 
doesn't allow direct content access - you have to use the web interface - (ie 
apache). 
so I wrote the C API to create the http calls to pass into the Rivendell Web 
API. Our production version IS running with the new code - it simply isn't 
using the new code cause it figures out which DB it sees - and since we are not 
on the 2.0 database schema - it doesn't use that new code. 
(There are 100 plus Windows machines running Audacity - so WHEN we do upgrade 
to 2.0 - I needed it to be smart enough to easily be flipped 
to 2.0 - rather than manually install 100 + NEW executables - but I digress)... 

The Riv C API Library isn't out on GitHub yet I don't think - it may only be in 
house right now.will have to check. 

I have tested the Rivendell 2.0 version - but it has not been put into 
Production use "Yet" That's a ways down the road for us - for too many 
reasons to list here - ... 

The only caveat about the new 2.0 version is that the Mysql calls are still in 
the code - because we needed to have browse capability, 
and the Web API simply did not work well for giving us a list of Carts/Cuts and 
sorting capabilities (you can sort on Cut Description, Cart Title, Cart/Cut 
Number 
in our version when browsing the library). 

Getting Mysql libraries to work is a bit of work, especially since Audacity 
uses Visual Studio C++, WxWidgets, etc but it works...and I did write a 
version 
a few years ago for Ubuntu, (and I also wrote one for Mac - but I have no idea 
where that code isand I start sweating just thinking about it... ;)... 

We have been using our Audacity version for Rivendell 1.5.2 for 8+ 
years...Latest Audacity versions I have built with are Audacity 2.0.3 (Win 7) 
and 
Audacity 2.1.2. (Win 10). 

Best Regards, 
Todd 

From: "Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com> 
To: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>, "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio 
Automation System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:29:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 

Todd, had you seen my posting from around 9AM today? 

*** How about the inclusion on the Appliance Disk 
of a custom tweak of Audacity for CentOS, but 
with one major mod: two new "Save/Export" 
Menu choices that allow Export Selection Directly 
to RDLIbrary and Export Selection Directly to RDCartSlots ?*** 

Is this how your spin works? 

AP 

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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread David Klann 
+1 for RDacity!

Todd, I'd be willing and eager to help with your Linux porting,
packaging and/or testing. Let me know on or off list if you'd like.

Thanks!

  ~David Klann
   WDRT, Viroqua, WI


On 07/28/2016 01:14 PM, Todd Baker wrote:
> Ah...  
> 
>A very good name as well...
> 
> Tb
> 
> 
> *From: *"Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com>
> *To: *"Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org>
> *Cc: *"ermina" <erm...@studioplume.com>, "User discussion about the
> Rivendell Radio Automation System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:09:08 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?
> 
> My vote is for "*RD*acity" (arr-/das/-sity)
> ap
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Todd Baker <bak...@rfa.org
> <mailto:bak...@rfa.org>> wrote:
> 
> ... because of trademark issues, we can't call it Audacity, they
> have the rights to that name. AudioRiv maybe?
> 
> 
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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread Todd Baker 
Ah... 

A very good name as well... 

Tb 


From: "Al Peterson" <apeter...@radioamerica.com> 
To: "Todd Baker" <bak...@rfa.org> 
Cc: "ermina" <erm...@studioplume.com>, "User discussion about the Rivendell 
Radio Automation System" <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:09:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary? 

My vote is for " RD acity" (arr- das -sity) 
ap 


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Todd Baker < bak...@rfa.org > wrote: 


... because of trademark issues, we can't call it Audacity, they have the 
rights to that name. AudioRiv maybe? 



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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread Todd Baker 
Dear Ermina,

I understand your need for a recording tool that you can use, and although 
RDLibrary
can do that I don't think it was really intended for recording segments.  Here 
at RFA
we use Audacity to record our segments/Carts etc.  Our version actually 
interfaces
with Rivendell directly, and is our own version - since Audacity is Open 
Source.  
I am looking into creating a git hub repository that could allow people to 
use/build 
this version of the tool but because of trademark issues - 
we can't call it Audacity, they have the rights to that name. AudioRiv maybe?

I will let you, and the Rivendell community as well,
if it makes it into a git hub repository somewhere.  

Our version of Audacity works on Windows (Win 7 and Win 10), however, it could 
be ported to Linux 
(I once built an Ubuntu version) and other OS's as well with some work

Best Regards,

Todd Baker
Technician
Radio Free Asia,  Washington D.C.

- Original Message -
From: "ermina" <erm...@studioplume.com>
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
<rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:08:17 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

Hello,

On 07/28/2016 01:23 PM, Fred Gleason wrote:
> Not so much complicated as out of scope.  I would argue that such
> functionality really belongs on the production side of things, not in
> the radio automation.

well actually it would be useful : we use rdlibrary to record in the 
studio, and i can think of many times where i would prefer to have an 
option to pause the recording.

When recording long sessions (itw, translations, etc.) there is always a 
time one needs a break or is interrupted for whatever reason.
And there is also a good reason for one session to be in one cut.

It's easier to hit pause than to handle GBytes of 32 bits silence around 
the network and into the production station.
While it's also easy to forget to "un-pause", that should be a per user 
option.

on the creative side that would allow to do some "tourné-monté" 
(in-camera editing) which is sometimes a fine strategy to do quick and 
efficient things.

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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread ermina 

Hello,

On 07/28/2016 01:23 PM, Fred Gleason wrote:

Not so much complicated as out of scope.  I would argue that such
functionality really belongs on the production side of things, not in
the radio automation.


well actually it would be useful : we use rdlibrary to record in the 
studio, and i can think of many times where i would prefer to have an 
option to pause the recording.


When recording long sessions (itw, translations, etc.) there is always a 
time one needs a break or is interrupted for whatever reason.

And there is also a good reason for one session to be in one cut.

It's easier to hit pause than to handle GBytes of 32 bits silence around 
the network and into the production station.
While it's also easy to forget to "un-pause", that should be a per user 
option.


on the creative side that would allow to do some "tourné-monté" 
(in-camera editing) which is sometimes a fine strategy to do quick and 
efficient things.


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Re: [RDD] Pause a recording in RDLibrary?

2016-07-28 Thread Fred Gleason 
On Jul 27, 2016, at 12:50, Tom Van Gorkom  wrote:

> Is there a way to pause a recording in RDLibrary? 

There is not.


> We often record live interviews to play again later and it's easiest to 
> record directly into a cart and then edit later as needed. Sometimes we would 
> like to pause the recording for station breaks or announcements but if we do, 
> we have to start again in a new cart. Can a pause function be added to this 
> or is it too complicated?

Not so much complicated as out of scope.  I would argue that such functionality 
really belongs on the production side of things, not in the radio automation.

Cheers!


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