Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:03:53 +0100 Will Godfrey wrote: >On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:06:23 -0400 >Ted Felix wrote: > >>On 9/28/21 4:02 PM, Will Godfrey wrote: >>> If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to >>> another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash >>> immediately, or >>> (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you >>> join >>> two segments on the same track when both have a window open. >> >> I found and fixed a crash related to deleting Segments that are open >>in the Matrix editor. (MatrixScene::segmentRemoved() was unfinished.) >>Please test latest git and let me know if you are still seeing crashes >>in any of the cases that you've mentioned. >> >>Ted. > >Getting a bit behind on 'stuff' but I'll check this out as soon as I can. > I've started a new project over the last couple of days that involves a lot of cut/paste across tracks - not seeing any crashes so far :) -- Will J Godfrey https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ http://yoshimi.github.io Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:06:23 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: >On 9/28/21 4:02 PM, Will Godfrey wrote: >> If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to >> another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash immediately, >> or >> (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you join >> two segments on the same track when both have a window open. > > I found and fixed a crash related to deleting Segments that are open >in the Matrix editor. (MatrixScene::segmentRemoved() was unfinished.) >Please test latest git and let me know if you are still seeing crashes >in any of the cases that you've mentioned. > >Ted. Getting a bit behind on 'stuff' but I'll check this out as soon as I can. -- Will J Godfrey https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ http://yoshimi.github.io Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
On 9/28/21 4:02 PM, Will Godfrey wrote: If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash immediately, or (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you join two segments on the same track when both have a window open. I found and fixed a crash related to deleting Segments that are open in the Matrix editor. (MatrixScene::segmentRemoved() was unfinished.) Please test latest git and let me know if you are still seeing crashes in any of the cases that you've mentioned. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
On 10/12/21 2:51 PM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: Thank you Dave, I created a Suse Live-USB which fails to boot either of my machines. Also tried that jack_capture switch without success (nothing happens, maybe more needs to be set?). The AvLinux download is a snail's pace, defered for now... But I ain't giving up yet :-) On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 18:02:41 -1000 "David W. Jones" wrote: Well, I suggested trying a live distro like AV-Linux just to see if the same problem happened there. I've used AV-Linux to get working audio configs for problem systems because it seems to handle audio better than standard distros like Debian or Ubuntu. Well, I just checked things here. I had to remember to assign my tracks to my desired outtarget (Yoshimi) then make sure to have Yoshimi running. Then I started jack_capture with the -jt option. In Rosegarden, I went to View > Show Transport. Then click the Play button in RG's Transport window. And jack_capture happily recorded until RG stopped. Then jack_capture stopped. I don't know about why Suse wouldn't boot on either of your machines. I've never tried Suse. Maybe a BIOS setting related to UEFI? -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com "My password is the last 8 digits of π." ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
Thank you Dave, I created a Suse Live-USB which fails to boot either of my machines. Also tried that jack_capture switch without success (nothing happens, maybe more needs to be set?). The AvLinux download is a snail's pace, defered for now... But I ain't giving up yet :-) On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 18:02:41 -1000 "David W. Jones" wrote: > > > Well, I suggested trying a live distro like AV-Linux just to see if the same > problem happened there. I've used AV-Linux to get working audio configs for > problem systems because it seems to handle audio better than standard distros > like Debian or Ubuntu. -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
Well, I suggested trying a live distro like AV-Linux just to see if the same problem happened there. I've used AV-Linux to get working audio configs for problem systems because it seems to handle audio better than standard distros like Debian or Ubuntu. Maybe when your current project is done, try it again. If no problems, compare audio configs related to JACKD, qjackctl, PulseAudio, etc. By the way, jack_capture has a command line option that tells it not to start recording until JACK transport tells it to start. I use that with RG all the time. Start play in RG, jack_capture starts recording. When play stops, so does jack_capture's recording. :) On October 6, 2021 1:43:01 PM HST, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: > > I'm in the middle of a huge guitar chord chart project and am too busy for > TS-ing but took a quick lap just now. I used AV-Linux for a long time but > when Devuan came out it monopolized my Debian-fork allotment and I had given > up on the 'buntuStudio when I first tried it around the 12 mark. It was full > of bugs and the 'buntu way with the desktop or things isn't really my cup of > tea. But Devuan is working just fine BTW, at least for my non-developer > modest needs :-) > > Jack may be involved in these RG crashes, the desktop isn't, I tried Plasma > as well as XFCE, same crashes. If RG is already running then starting either > jack_capture OR Audacity crashes it regardless of whether qjackctl uses the > pajackconnect.bsh scripts or not. Starting RG after these works out OK but > unlike Audacity jack_capture creates a file from the moment it's started so > that's not very practical, nonetheless it's exactly what I do when I need it. > Both Suse installations and Devuan behave identical so it isn't systemd > either. My Slackware-14.2 fails to boot as it will not recognize my new usb > gaming keyboard, while Artix is too new and over my head, I don't even know > how to update it. So there is what I can offer today. > > > On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 18:45:09 -1000 > david wrote: > > > Well, ages ago, I tried Devuan on a machine. Installed but wouldn't run. > > So I've never looked at it again. > > > > Have you tried booting your system using a live USB of one of the > > audio/media type distros like Ubuntu Studio or AV Linux and seeing if > > the same problem happens in those? They should already come equipped > > with the applications you use. > > > > On 9/29/21 3:47 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: > > > Suse is my go2 but I'm getting my feet wet > > > with Devuan partly because of this. I use > > > RG, qjckctl, qsynth, jack_capture, Audacity > > > and sometimes Zynn standalone as well as Hydrogen. > > > Having amongst others a Suse-Leap and a Tumbleweed > > > installation I used to just boot the other one > > > whenever any problem arose with running all of > > > the above. This has been happening with increasing > > > frequency and the other day neither one allowed > > > me a half decent session. So just maybe the problem > > > is not with RG, I really have noo idea.. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:38:32 -1000 > > > david wrote: > > > > > >> Hmm, RG 21.12 here on Debian (Buster). No crashes from RG when using > > >> jack_capture or Audacity to record. Note: I don't use RG for audio, so > > >> I'm not opening an audio track from within RG. > > >> Not helpful, but maybe fuel some ideas? > > >> > > >> On 9/28/21 10:32 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: > > >>> RG crashes on me every time I start jack_capture or Audacity > > >>> (Suse Leap-15.3/Tumbleweed), don't know why, so what I do > > >>> when I need these others is I first save the RG project > > >>> then start them before restarting RG > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:02:18 +0100 > > >>> Will Godfrey wrote: > > >>> > > Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been > > spending > > a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. > > > > I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at > > the same > > time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold > > these > > open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually > > managing. > > On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same > > position > > so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. > > > > If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move > > it to > > another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash > > immediately, or > > (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if > > you join > > two segments on the same track when both have a window open. > > > > My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant > > segments and > > close them before such delete/move/join operations. > > > >
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
I'm in the middle of a huge guitar chord chart project and am too busy for TS-ing but took a quick lap just now. I used AV-Linux for a long time but when Devuan came out it monopolized my Debian-fork allotment and I had given up on the 'buntuStudio when I first tried it around the 12 mark. It was full of bugs and the 'buntu way with the desktop or things isn't really my cup of tea. But Devuan is working just fine BTW, at least for my non-developer modest needs :-) Jack may be involved in these RG crashes, the desktop isn't, I tried Plasma as well as XFCE, same crashes. If RG is already running then starting either jack_capture OR Audacity crashes it regardless of whether qjackctl uses the pajackconnect.bsh scripts or not. Starting RG after these works out OK but unlike Audacity jack_capture creates a file from the moment it's started so that's not very practical, nonetheless it's exactly what I do when I need it. Both Suse installations and Devuan behave identical so it isn't systemd either. My Slackware-14.2 fails to boot as it will not recognize my new usb gaming keyboard, while Artix is too new and over my head, I don't even know how to update it. So there is what I can offer today. On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 18:45:09 -1000 david wrote: > Well, ages ago, I tried Devuan on a machine. Installed but wouldn't run. > So I've never looked at it again. > > Have you tried booting your system using a live USB of one of the > audio/media type distros like Ubuntu Studio or AV Linux and seeing if > the same problem happens in those? They should already come equipped > with the applications you use. > > On 9/29/21 3:47 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: > > Suse is my go2 but I'm getting my feet wet > > with Devuan partly because of this. I use > > RG, qjckctl, qsynth, jack_capture, Audacity > > and sometimes Zynn standalone as well as Hydrogen. > > Having amongst others a Suse-Leap and a Tumbleweed > > installation I used to just boot the other one > > whenever any problem arose with running all of > > the above. This has been happening with increasing > > frequency and the other day neither one allowed > > me a half decent session. So just maybe the problem > > is not with RG, I really have noo idea.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:38:32 -1000 > > david wrote: > > > >> Hmm, RG 21.12 here on Debian (Buster). No crashes from RG when using > >> jack_capture or Audacity to record. Note: I don't use RG for audio, so > >> I'm not opening an audio track from within RG. > >> Not helpful, but maybe fuel some ideas? > >> > >> On 9/28/21 10:32 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: > >>> RG crashes on me every time I start jack_capture or Audacity > >>> (Suse Leap-15.3/Tumbleweed), don't know why, so what I do > >>> when I need these others is I first save the RG project > >>> then start them before restarting RG > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:02:18 +0100 > >>> Will Godfrey wrote: > >>> > Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been > spending > a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. > > I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at > the same > time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold > these > open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually > managing. > On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same > position > so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. > > If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it > to > another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash > immediately, or > (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you > join > two segments on the same track when both have a window open. > > My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments > and > close them before such delete/move/join operations. > > -- > Will J Godfrey > https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ > http://yoshimi.github.io > Say you have a poem and I have a tune. > Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. > > -- > David W. Jones > gn...@hawaii.rr.com > authenticity, honesty, community > http://dancingtreefrog.com > "My password is the last 8 digits of π." > > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
Well, ages ago, I tried Devuan on a machine. Installed but wouldn't run. So I've never looked at it again. Have you tried booting your system using a live USB of one of the audio/media type distros like Ubuntu Studio or AV Linux and seeing if the same problem happens in those? They should already come equipped with the applications you use. On 9/29/21 3:47 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: Suse is my go2 but I'm getting my feet wet with Devuan partly because of this. I use RG, qjckctl, qsynth, jack_capture, Audacity and sometimes Zynn standalone as well as Hydrogen. Having amongst others a Suse-Leap and a Tumbleweed installation I used to just boot the other one whenever any problem arose with running all of the above. This has been happening with increasing frequency and the other day neither one allowed me a half decent session. So just maybe the problem is not with RG, I really have noo idea.. On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:38:32 -1000 david wrote: Hmm, RG 21.12 here on Debian (Buster). No crashes from RG when using jack_capture or Audacity to record. Note: I don't use RG for audio, so I'm not opening an audio track from within RG. Not helpful, but maybe fuel some ideas? On 9/28/21 10:32 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: RG crashes on me every time I start jack_capture or Audacity (Suse Leap-15.3/Tumbleweed), don't know why, so what I do when I need these others is I first save the RG project then start them before restarting RG On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:02:18 +0100 Will Godfrey wrote: Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been spending a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at the same time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold these open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually managing. On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same position so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash immediately, or (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you join two segments on the same track when both have a window open. My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments and close them before such delete/move/join operations. -- Will J Godfrey https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ http://yoshimi.github.io Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com "My password is the last 8 digits of π." ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
On 9/28/21 4:02 PM, Will Godfrey wrote: My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments and close them before such delete/move/join operations. Some sort of logic is in there. If you open a Segment in Matrix then delete the Segment, the Matrix window goes away. It's probably just not aware of these particular variations. I will have a look. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
Suse is my go2 but I'm getting my feet wet with Devuan partly because of this. I use RG, qjckctl, qsynth, jack_capture, Audacity and sometimes Zynn standalone as well as Hydrogen. Having amongst others a Suse-Leap and a Tumbleweed installation I used to just boot the other one whenever any problem arose with running all of the above. This has been happening with increasing frequency and the other day neither one allowed me a half decent session. So just maybe the problem is not with RG, I really have noo idea.. On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:38:32 -1000 david wrote: > Hmm, RG 21.12 here on Debian (Buster). No crashes from RG when using > jack_capture or Audacity to record. Note: I don't use RG for audio, so > I'm not opening an audio track from within RG. > Not helpful, but maybe fuel some ideas? > > On 9/28/21 10:32 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: > > RG crashes on me every time I start jack_capture or Audacity > > (Suse Leap-15.3/Tumbleweed), don't know why, so what I do > > when I need these others is I first save the RG project > > then start them before restarting RG > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:02:18 +0100 > > Will Godfrey wrote: > > > >> Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been > >> spending > >> a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. > >> > >> I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at the > >> same > >> time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold > >> these > >> open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually > >> managing. > >> On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same > >> position > >> so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. > >> > >> If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to > >> another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash > >> immediately, or > >> (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you > >> join > >> two segments on the same track when both have a window open. > >> > >> My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments and > >> close them before such delete/move/join operations. > >> > >> -- > >> Will J Godfrey > >> https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ > >> http://yoshimi.github.io > >> Say you have a poem and I have a tune. > >> Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. > >> > > -- > David W. Jones > gn...@hawaii.rr.com > authenticity, honesty, community > http://dancingtreefrog.com > "My password is the last 8 digits of π." > > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
Hmm, RG 21.12 here on Debian (Buster). No crashes from RG when using jack_capture or Audacity to record. Note: I don't use RG for audio, so I'm not opening an audio track from within RG. Not helpful, but maybe fuel some ideas? On 9/28/21 10:32 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote: RG crashes on me every time I start jack_capture or Audacity (Suse Leap-15.3/Tumbleweed), don't know why, so what I do when I need these others is I first save the RG project then start them before restarting RG On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:02:18 +0100 Will Godfrey wrote: Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been spending a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at the same time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold these open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually managing. On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same position so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash immediately, or (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you join two segments on the same track when both have a window open. My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments and close them before such delete/move/join operations. -- Will J Godfrey https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ http://yoshimi.github.io Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com "My password is the last 8 digits of π." ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
RG crashes on me every time I start jack_capture or Audacity (Suse Leap-15.3/Tumbleweed), don't know why, so what I do when I need these others is I first save the RG project then start them before restarting RG On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:02:18 +0100 Will Godfrey wrote: > Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been > spending > a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. > > I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at the same > time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold these > open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually managing. > On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same > position > so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. > > If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to > another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash immediately, > or > (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you join > two segments on the same track when both have a window open. > > My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments and > close them before such delete/move/join operations. > > -- > Will J Godfrey > https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ > http://yoshimi.github.io > Say you have a poem and I have a tune. > Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Some Crashes Identified
Firt off, I work entirely in the matrix editor, and recently I've been spending a lot of time working on, and heavily editing, multi-track projects. I will frequently open segment windows on several different tracks at the same time, and also different segments on the *same* track. I'll often hold these open, and just push them to the back of the stack when not actually managing. On my system Rosegarden always seems to open these at exactly the same position so it's very easy to forget what you've got open. If you now delete one of the segments from the matrix window or move it to another track. There is a high chance you'll either get a crash immediately, or (more confusingly) the next time you hit 'Play'. The same applies if you join two segments on the same track when both have a window open. My suggestion is to check for any open windows on the relevant segments and close them before such delete/move/join operations. -- Will J Godfrey https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/ http://yoshimi.github.io Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
