Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
Thanks for testing. Glad to hear it's working well for you.
> After publishing the next version maybe we could _discuss_ "simplifying"
> the interface instead of adding new features.
Definitely sounds like a good idea.
> For example, what do you
> think about the separate midi and audio mixers and their layout,
> reducing the multiple appearance of features in many menus.
I would recommend that we open a feature request and provide a few
examples of specific simplifications to get things started.
https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/
Not sure if you have an account on sourceforge. If not, just post a
few examples here and I'll get the feature request started.
Ted.
On 11/29/21 7:39 AM, MST wrote:
Hi Ted! Hi there!
I compiled the latest code and did my usual testing with a very large
audio and midi file containing a lot of modulations, tracks, overlapping
notes, ...
So far it works very well for me on Debian 11.
Thanks for your work Philipp and Ted!
Greetings, Michael
P.S.
One thought that strikes me since some time:
After publishing the next version maybe we could _discuss_ "symplifying"
the interface instead of adding new features. For example, what do you
think about the separate midi and audio mixers and their layout,
reducing the multiple appearance of features in many menues. Sorry for
my english :-)
*Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. November 2021 um 15:14 Uhr
*Von:* "Lorenzo Sutton"
*An:* rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net
*Betreff:* Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
Hi Ted,
On 11/11/2021 17:36, Ted Felix wrote:
> 21.12 will be released on December 8. Please test the latest version
> of Rosegarden in git as much as you can. Suggested areas to test can be
> found in the testing notes on the wiki:
>
> https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:21.12_testing_notes
<https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:21.12_testing_notes>
Cool, lots of nice stuff in there, e.g. the matrix stuff, adjust. Note
names can be really handy :)
>
> If you've not built Rosegarden before, give it a shot and let us know
> if you run into trouble. We'll walk you through it. I've written up
> instructions on the wiki that should help you through the build process:
>
>
https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source
<https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source>
>
> To help out with 21.12 you can either download a source snapshot, or
> use git to stay up to date with the latest.
Here's some input from trying to test as much as possible:
- Inserting tuplets with the keyboard.
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the first
tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back the
previous note ??
For example:
- insert a quater note on beat 2 (2/4) of a 4/4 measure, then start to
insert a quaver (1/8) triplet on beat 1. See what happens (and the note
is actually moved, you can verify this by opening the segment in the
matrix view)
- Track > Add Tracks…. Test the new Device and Instrument fields.
If more than one track is added each subsequent track has device + 1: is
this expected?
- File > Merge > Merge file…. This has been rewritten and could use some
testing of all features.
Doesn't seem to import channel, bank and programme?
- File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file
dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs.
What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro)
with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden).
Lorenzo.
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[Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
Hi Ted! Hi there!
I compiled the latest code and did my usual testing with a very large audio and midi file containing a lot of modulations, tracks, overlapping notes, ...
So far it works very well for me on Debian 11.
Thanks for your work Philipp and Ted!
Greetings, Michael
P.S.
One thought that strikes me since some time:
After publishing the next version maybe we could discuss "symplifying" the interface instead of adding new features. For example, what do you think about the separate midi and audio mixers and their layout, reducing the multiple appearance of features in many menues. Sorry for my english :-)
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. November 2021 um 15:14 Uhr
Von: "Lorenzo Sutton"
An: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
Hi Ted,
On 11/11/2021 17:36, Ted Felix wrote:
> 21.12 will be released on December 8. Please test the latest version
> of Rosegarden in git as much as you can. Suggested areas to test can be
> found in the testing notes on the wiki:
>
> https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:21.12_testing_notes
Cool, lots of nice stuff in there, e.g. the matrix stuff, adjust. Note
names can be really handy :)
>
> If you've not built Rosegarden before, give it a shot and let us know
> if you run into trouble. We'll walk you through it. I've written up
> instructions on the wiki that should help you through the build process:
>
> https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source
>
> To help out with 21.12 you can either download a source snapshot, or
> use git to stay up to date with the latest.
Here's some input from trying to test as much as possible:
- Inserting tuplets with the keyboard.
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the first
tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back the
previous note ??
For example:
- insert a quater note on beat 2 (2/4) of a 4/4 measure, then start to
insert a quaver (1/8) triplet on beat 1. See what happens (and the note
is actually moved, you can verify this by opening the segment in the
matrix view)
- Track > Add Tracks…. Test the new Device and Instrument fields.
If more than one track is added each subsequent track has device + 1: is
this expected?
- File > Merge > Merge file…. This has been rewritten and could use some
testing of all features.
Doesn't seem to import channel, bank and programme?
- File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file
dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs.
What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro)
with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden).
Lorenzo.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
Wow. Thanks for that. Looks like 21.06 was even worse. I will add
to the test plan.
Ted.
On 11/27/21 2:43 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
On 26/11/2021 19:42, Ted Felix wrote:
On 11/16/21 9:14 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the
first tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back
the [following] note ??
>
> For example:
>
> - insert a quarter note on beat 2 (2/4) of a 4/4 measure, then
start to insert a quaver (1/8) triplet on beat 1. See what happens
(and the note is actually moved, you can verify this by opening the
segment in the matrix view)
I just pushed a fix for this [8a266e]. Unfortunately it breaks
entering 7 in 4, but it may be the best we can do for 21.12. Please
test latest git.
Hey thanks for this!
Seems better with triplets, but there still seems to be a quirck:
- Create a 1 measure-long segment
- Open notation editor
- Insert a triplet
- Delete the triplet and put the cursor back to start
- BTW the cursor is _before_ the clef - I'd expect it to be after
the meter... (not sure if this infulence)
- Now try to insert a triplet again... something goes wrong
ì
It seems this happens only in that particular case at measure 1... I think?
I can confirm entering 5 in 4 works, 7 in 4 doesn't work.
Hope this helps
Ted.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
On 26/11/2021 19:42, Ted Felix wrote:
On 11/16/21 9:14 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the
first tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back the
[following] note ??
>
> For example:
>
> - insert a quarter note on beat 2 (2/4) of a 4/4 measure, then start
to insert a quaver (1/8) triplet on beat 1. See what happens (and the
note is actually moved, you can verify this by opening the segment in
the matrix view)
I just pushed a fix for this [8a266e]. Unfortunately it breaks
entering 7 in 4, but it may be the best we can do for 21.12. Please
test latest git.
Hey thanks for this!
Seems better with triplets, but there still seems to be a quirck:
- Create a 1 measure-long segment
- Open notation editor
- Insert a triplet
- Delete the triplet and put the cursor back to start
- BTW the cursor is _before_ the clef - I'd expect it to be after the
meter... (not sure if this infulence)
- Now try to insert a triplet again... something goes wrong
ì
It seems this happens only in that particular case at measure 1... I think?
I can confirm entering 5 in 4 works, 7 in 4 doesn't work.
Hope this helps
Ted.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
I understood. No need to confirm on xfce. We've had no complaints from xfce users related to the file dialogs. Ted. On 11/27/21 4:32 AM, chuck elliot wrote: 'sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant that it would be relatively easy for me to try to confirm the behaviour on XFCE if it would help. The change to the file dialogue choice *has* been very beneficial to me and I really appreciate all the effort that went into tracking down the problem. Chuck. On 11/27/21 1:54 AM, Ted Felix wrote: No need to look into it. So long as it is helping you, that's what it is intended for. Ted. On 11/26/21 8:06 PM, chuck elliot wrote: My problem came about using the MATE desktop on Fedora so the difference may well be between XFCE and MATE. I'll look into it if you like? - File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs. What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro) with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden). My best guess is that xfce doesn't offer native file dialogs? This feature was to help Chuck Elliot solve some problems he was having with the file dialogs in a specific version of Qt. So long as you aren't having any problems with file dialogs, you don't need this setting. That it has no effect on xfce is an interesting result that I will keep in mind. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
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'sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant that it would be relatively easy for me to try to confirm the behaviour on XFCE if it would help. The change to the file dialogue choice *has* been very beneficial to me and I really appreciate all the effort that went into tracking down the problem. Chuck. On 11/27/21 1:54 AM, Ted Felix wrote: No need to look into it. So long as it is helping you, that's what it is intended for. Ted. On 11/26/21 8:06 PM, chuck elliot wrote: My problem came about using the MATE desktop on Fedora so the difference may well be between XFCE and MATE. I'll look into it if you like? - File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs. What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro) with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden). My best guess is that xfce doesn't offer native file dialogs? This feature was to help Chuck Elliot solve some problems he was having with the file dialogs in a specific version of Qt. So long as you aren't having any problems with file dialogs, you don't need this setting. That it has no effect on xfce is an interesting result that I will keep in mind. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
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No need to look into it. So long as it is helping you, that's what it is intended for. Ted. On 11/26/21 8:06 PM, chuck elliot wrote: My problem came about using the MATE desktop on Fedora so the difference may well be between XFCE and MATE. I'll look into it if you like? - File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs. What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro) with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden). My best guess is that xfce doesn't offer native file dialogs? This feature was to help Chuck Elliot solve some problems he was having with the file dialogs in a specific version of Qt. So long as you aren't having any problems with file dialogs, you don't need this setting. That it has no effect on xfce is an interesting result that I will keep in mind. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
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My problem came about using the MATE desktop on Fedora so the difference may well be between XFCE and MATE. I'll look into it if you like? - File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs. What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro) with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden). My best guess is that xfce doesn't offer native file dialogs? This feature was to help Chuck Elliot solve some problems he was having with the file dialogs in a specific version of Qt. So long as you aren't having any problems with file dialogs, you don't need this setting. That it has no effect on xfce is an interesting result that I will keep in mind. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
On 11/16/21 9:14 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the first
tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back the
[following] note ??
>
> For example:
>
> - insert a quarter note on beat 2 (2/4) of a 4/4 measure, then start
to insert a quaver (1/8) triplet on beat 1. See what happens (and the
note is actually moved, you can verify this by opening the segment in
the matrix view)
I just pushed a fix for this [8a266e]. Unfortunately it breaks
entering 7 in 4, but it may be the best we can do for 21.12. Please
test latest git.
Ted.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
On 11/16/21 9:14 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
Here's some input from trying to test as much as possible:
Thanks for testing.
- Inserting tuplets with the keyboard.
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the first
tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back the
[following] note ??
Thanks for catching this one. I suspect it might be related to Bug
#1464.
I've added your observation to Bug #1464 and our test plan on the
wiki. Hopefully Philip will have some time to look at this before
delivery. Otherwise I'm faced with a difficult decision. This is some
pretty fundamental stuff and it should work even if entering 7-tuplets
doesn't. What to do? Remove the changes? Ship with the bug? Postpone
the delivery? Not sure at the moment.
- Track > Add Tracks…. Test the new Device and Instrument fields.
If more than one track is added each subsequent track has device + 1: is
this expected?
Yes. This is working as requested.
- File > Merge > Merge file…. This has been rewritten and could use some
testing of all features.
Doesn't seem to import channel, bank and programme?
No. Since the devices might be radically different between the two
files, I decided just to punt on this for now. It's certainly something
that would be helpful, especially when the devices are obviously exactly
the same. I'll add some comments to the code for the future. If
someone actually needs this, they can open a feature request. See
MergeFileCommand.cpp::copyType() in the code.
- File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file
dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs.
What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro)
with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden).
My best guess is that xfce doesn't offer native file dialogs? This
feature was to help Chuck Elliot solve some problems he was having with
the file dialogs in a specific version of Qt. So long as you aren't
having any problems with file dialogs, you don't need this setting.
That it has no effect on xfce is an interesting result that I will keep
in mind.
Ted.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
Hi Ted,
On 11/11/2021 17:36, Ted Felix wrote:
21.12 will be released on December 8. Please test the latest version
of Rosegarden in git as much as you can. Suggested areas to test can be
found in the testing notes on the wiki:
https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:21.12_testing_notes
Cool, lots of nice stuff in there, e.g. the matrix stuff, adjust. Note
names can be really handy :)
If you've not built Rosegarden before, give it a shot and let us know
if you run into trouble. We'll walk you through it. I've written up
instructions on the wiki that should help you through the build process:
https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source
To help out with 21.12 you can either download a source snapshot, or
use git to stay up to date with the latest.
Here's some input from trying to test as much as possible:
- Inserting tuplets with the keyboard.
If you insert a triplet (be it with keyboard or mouse) and there is a
note already on the beat ('slot') immediately after, inserting the first
tuplet note (be it triplet or any other) seems to 'eat' back the
previous note ??
For example:
- insert a quater note on beat 2 (2/4) of a 4/4 measure, then start to
insert a quaver (1/8) triplet on beat 1. See what happens (and the note
is actually moved, you can verify this by opening the segment in the
matrix view)
- Track > Add Tracks…. Test the new Device and Instrument fields.
If more than one track is added each subsequent track has device + 1: is
this expected?
- File > Merge > Merge file…. This has been rewritten and could use some
testing of all features.
Doesn't seem to import channel, bank and programme?
- File open/save dialogs: General > Presentation > Use native file
dialogs. Changes appearance of file dialogs.
What's expected? I seem to get the same dialog. I am on XFCE (Manjaro)
with QT 5.15.2 (as reported by Rosegarden).
Lorenzo.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Testing Appreciated for 21.12
On 11/11/21 11:55 AM, Babarosa wrote: So far I am missing only one feature: A single button which after being clicked composes automatically a number one hit. Open a feature request. 藍 Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
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Hi there! I will start testing soon - the german translation file seems to be up to date. So far I am missing only one feature: A single button which after being clicked composes automatically a number one hit. Greetings, Michael Am 11.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Ted Felix: 21.12 will be released on December 8. Please test the latest version of Rosegarden in git as much as you can. Suggested areas to test can be found in the testing notes on the wiki: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:21.12_testing_notes If you've not built Rosegarden before, give it a shot and let us know if you run into trouble. We'll walk you through it. I've written up instructions on the wiki that should help you through the build process: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source To help out with 21.12 you can either download a source snapshot, or use git to stay up to date with the latest. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
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21.12 will be released on December 8. Please test the latest version of Rosegarden in git as much as you can. Suggested areas to test can be found in the testing notes on the wiki: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:21.12_testing_notes If you've not built Rosegarden before, give it a shot and let us know if you run into trouble. We'll walk you through it. I've written up instructions on the wiki that should help you through the build process: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source To help out with 21.12 you can either download a source snapshot, or use git to stay up to date with the latest. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
