Re: [rt-users] Fwd: RTFM articles for unprivileged user group

2009-03-24 Thread Jo Rhett
On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Kevin Falcone wrote:
 You should be looking for the release of RTFM2.4.2 and RT3.8.3


With the obvious understanding of when it is done, do you have any  
idea when you think this might occur?

I'm asking because I was about to start on RTFM integration, but I'll  
probably wait if the next update is coming out fairly soon.

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[rt-users] Using RT in a large organization (thousands of users)

2009-03-24 Thread Peter Dole
Hi,
In the BestPractical web site, RT is described as RT is a ticketing system
for small- to medium-sized organizations.

I'm working on a helpdesk ticketing / workflow solution for a large
organization - thousands of users, some of them are technical, most of them
are your average PC user (not IT people).

Using a home-grown system today, which needs to die (not scaleable, horrible
usability, etc).

There will be a team of people handling the tickets, dispatching engineering
change requests, etc.

My questions are:
1. What are the main limitations of RT (features / functionality) that make
it unfit for large organizations? (don't want to hit a brick wall in a few
weeks).

2. Can some people share their experience in large organizations of this
scale? (what worked, was there custom development required, etc).

3. Am I better off looking at a commercial system like Remedy / Peregrine
(for our organization size), due to potential cost of custom development
integrating RT?

Thanks,
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[rt-users] ResolvedRelative in search queries

2009-03-24 Thread Artem Naluzhnyy
Hi,

Any idea how to use ResolvedRelative or something like Resolved 
NOW() - INTERVAL 7 DAYS in searches? The goal is to create a saved
search to find all tickets resolved within the last 7 days. I guess
callbacks may help but need an example.

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Re: [rt-users] ResolvedRelative in search queries

2009-03-24 Thread Jo Rhett
On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:16 AM, Artem Naluzhnyy wrote:
 Any idea how to use ResolvedRelative or something like Resolved 
 NOW() - INTERVAL 7 DAYS in searches?

Resolved  -7 days

The now is implied.

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Re: [rt-users] Allow only a specific user to see a Callback

2009-03-24 Thread Potla, Ashish Bassaliel
I think you can also get the current user`s obj and get his name like : 
$session{'CurrentUser'}-UserObj-Name and put in a condition to see if its 
John or not. Based on this condition you should call the callback.

But going into the future if you want to add more users this functionality, it 
makes sense to create a new group. 
Then you should put in a condition to see iif the current user is a part of 
this new group.

-Ashish

From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
[rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lahti 
[t...@bitstatement.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:54 AM
To: holland holland
Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Allow only a specific user to see a Callback

I'm no RT API expert, but I think from a best practices standpoint you
really ought to create a new group for the purpose, make 'John' a member of
that group, and then have the scrip allow the callback based on membership
in that group.

holland holland wrote:
 Dear all,

 I would like only a specific user, e.g 'John' to see a callback.

 Currently I only see methods based on user rights, like:

 %INIT
 if ($session{'CurrentUser'}-UserObj-HasRight(
Right = 'AdminUsers',
Object = $RT::System,
 )) {
$toptabs-{'My Callback'} = { title =loc(My Callback),
  path  = MyCallbacks/1/index.html };
 }
 /%init
 %args
 $toptabs =undef
 /%args


 I want only 'John' to see this callback, not everybody that has
 'AdminUsers' right.


 Your help is much appreciated!

 Cheers,
 merou
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[rt-users] Howto trouble shoot installed Plugins that are not activated?

2009-03-24 Thread jul

Hello,

I have :
- installed a RT with a makedeps, fixdeps...
- used the regulat /opt/rt3 directory for rt
- taken the regular 3.8.2 from bestpratical
- installed Plugins with CPAN with $RTHOME=/opt/rt3
- Plugins are presents
- Set(@Plugins, qw(RT::Extension::QueueWizard RTx::Calendar
RTx::EmailCompletion
RT::Extension::Timeline));
- if I make a typo it complains Plugins are not there and ask me to check
the execution path (it means they are there)

But still none of the plugins works (meaning my RT is behaving the same
without plugins altering its appearance or behaviour), and it puzzles me.

PLugins are installed (it seems) but not functionning.

Is there a checklist, a troubleshooting method a list of point I could read ?
Is rt3.8.2 allergic to Plugins ?

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Re: [rt-users] Allow only a specific user to see a Callback

2009-03-24 Thread Potla, Ashish Bassaliel
Try this in your condition and let me know :

if ($group-HasMemberRecursively($session{'CurrentUser'}-PrincipalObj)) {

-Ashish

From: holland holland [laholla...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:55 PM
To: Potla, Ashish Bassaliel
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Allow only a specific user to see a Callback

Thanks Ashish -

I tried Tom suggestion but it does not seem to work either, the code:

my $group = new RT::Group($session{'CurrentUser'});
$group-LoadUserDefinedGroup('my_group');
if ($group-HasMemberRecursively($session{'CurrentUser'})) {
 $toptabs-{'My Callback'} = { title =loc(My Callback),
 path  = MyCallbacks/1/index.html };
 }


User 'john' belong to 'my_group', but unfortunately he cannot see 'My
Callback', I 'm doing something wrong?

Thanks for the answers so far.

p.s: i always clean mason cache and restart apache process when testing.
I use RT 3.6.4

Cheers,
merou




On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Potla, Ashish Bassaliel
c_apo...@qualcomm.com wrote:
 I think you can also get the current user`s obj and get his name like : 
 $session{'CurrentUser'}-UserObj-Name and put in a condition to see if its 
 John or not. Based on this condition you should call the callback.

 But going into the future if you want to add more users this functionality, 
 it makes sense to create a new group.
 Then you should put in a condition to see iif the current user is a part of 
 this new group.

 -Ashish
 
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
 [rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lahti 
 [t...@bitstatement.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:54 AM
 To: holland holland
 Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Allow only a specific user to see a Callback

 I'm no RT API expert, but I think from a best practices standpoint you
 really ought to create a new group for the purpose, make 'John' a member of
 that group, and then have the scrip allow the callback based on membership
 in that group.

 holland holland wrote:
 Dear all,

 I would like only a specific user, e.g 'John' to see a callback.

 Currently I only see methods based on user rights, like:

 %INIT
 if ($session{'CurrentUser'}-UserObj-HasRight(
Right = 'AdminUsers',
Object = $RT::System,
 )) {
$toptabs-{'My Callback'} = { title =loc(My Callback),
  path  = MyCallbacks/1/index.html };
 }
 /%init
 %args
 $toptabs =undef
 /%args


 I want only 'John' to see this callback, not everybody that has
 'AdminUsers' right.


 Your help is much appreciated!

 Cheers,
 merou
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Re: [rt-users] Howto trouble shoot installed Plugins that are not activated?

2009-03-24 Thread jul

jul a écrit :

 Hello,


 But still none of the plugins works (meaning my RT is behaving the same
 without plugins altering its appearance or behaviour), and it puzzles me.

 PLugins are installed (it seems) but not functionning.

 Is there a checklist, a troubleshooting method a list of point I could
 read ?
 Is rt3.8.2 allergic to Plugins ?

Could it be simply a rights problem ?

 #ps aux | grep mason
www-data 22857  0.0  0.0  17096  2548 ?Ss   11:17   0:00
/usr/bin/speedy_backend /opt/rt3/bin/mason_handler.scgi
www-data 22858  1.4  0.5 203876 89180 ?S11:17   0:11
/usr/bin/speedy_backend /opt/rt3/bin/mason_handler.scgi
www-data 24120  0.6  0.4 190064 77396 ?S11:27   0:01
/usr/bin/speedy_backend /opt/rt3/bin/mason_handler.scgi

 (I run in speedycgi)
 #ls -ld bin/mason_handler.scgi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root www-data 2467 2009-03-17 01:33 bin/mason_handler.scgi

and local/... is world readable.

It would sure puzzle me (I see no reason why it would be the problem).

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Re: [rt-users] (Solved) Howto trouble shoot installed Plugins that are not activated?

2009-03-24 Thread jul

jul a écrit :

 It would sure puzzle me (I see no reason why it would be the problem).

Sure asking questions helps  the one on ask to solve the problem :)

Well an older debian packaged version was conflicting : the path for
plugins previously installed was overriding the path for the actual
source.

I have still to apply the email completion readme to make it straight now ;)

Thx all for your great job (especially modules writers).

Soz for the noise, but better noisy than letting people loose their time
on a solved problems.



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Re: [rt-users] RTFM Topics

2009-03-24 Thread John Arends
I have not defined the topics as global though. They are just defined 
for one class.

Mr.Vandeley wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:21 PM, John Arends jare...@illinois.edu wrote:
   
 I'm testing RTFM right now. I have two classes defined as part of my
 test. One class has two topics defined, the other class has no topics
 defined.

 For some reason when viewing an article in the class with no topics, it
 looks like I am able to assign the two topics from the other class.

 Might I have something configured wrong? Or am I confused? I do not have
 any global topics defined.
 


 John, for what I know, topics are independent from classes. So you can
 define atopic as part of two different classes.

 From lib/RT/FM/Introduction.pod:
 Articles can belong to both global and class-specific Topics

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Re: [rt-users] Is it possible to rename the rt database?

2009-03-24 Thread Ruslan Zakirov
Yes, it is. And it was a mistake we've fixed. In the format of the
saved search use __WebPath__ instead of hardcoded value.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:00 AM,  gor...@cryologic.com wrote:
 My RT_SiteConfig.pm has remained unchanged for the rt-eval site and points
 to the correct web location (/rt-eval).

 All of my saved searches (copied from production to eval) point to the wrong
 web location.

 What I have noticed is that if I look at my Saved Searches in the Advanced
 Editor the bottom section displays:
 href=/rt/Ticket/Display.html
 instead of href=/rt-eval/Ticket/Display.html

 Is this href value stored as part of the saved search in the database?

 Gordon


 Ruslan Zakirov wrote:

 I think your problem is not a DB, but RT's config file. you should
 adjust Web* options. Also, make sure test server connects to test
 (rt3-eval) DB, check Database* options.




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Re: [rt-users] RTFM_TicketCreate unprivileged users cannot see Articles in RT self help portal

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Gregor Huber wrote:

 Looks like we have two unanswered posts on this same topic.  Is  
 anyone integrating RTFM and RT for external facing consumption in  
 the self help portal?

 Am I going to have to get off my RT platform?  Please say no.   
 Mayday Mayday Mayday... Can someone point me in the right direction  
 if possible?  I've already read the manual :-)

I actually replied to your post 3 hours before this question

On Mar 23, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Kevin Falcone wrote:
 On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Gregor Huber wrote:

 Summary:  Installed RTFM.  I can see RTFM and add articles as
 privileged user.  An unprivileged user cannot see RTFM articles
 after enabling RTFM_TicketCreate.

 Seeing articles during ticket creation/reply is only supported in the
 full RT interface (privileged users) not the
 Self Service interface (unprivileged).

 I'd probably take a patch for this, but i'd have to think about it a
 bit more.



-kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: Gregor Huber
 Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:38 PM
 To: 'rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com'
 Subject: RE: RTFM_TicketCreate unprivileged users cannot see  
 Articles in RT self help portal

 Hello All,
 Has anyone any experience on this?  Please help if possible :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Gregor Huber
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:14 PM
 To: 'RT-Users@lists.bestpractical.com'
 Subject: RTFM_TicketCreate unprivileged users cannot see Articles in  
 RT self help portal

 Sorry to bother.  I think this might be user error since I did not  
 see much posted under this subject.  Help would be appreciated.

 Summary:  Installed RTFM.  I can see RTFM and add articles as  
 privileged user.  An unprivileged user cannot see RTFM articles  
 after enabling RTFM_TicketCreate.

 Have RTFM 2.4.1  RT 3.8.2
 Enabled Set(#RTFM_TicketCreate, 1) in /var/www/html/rt3/local/ 
 plugins/RT-FM/RTFM_Config.pm (did not work)
 Enabled Set(#RTFM_TicketCreate, 1) in /var/www/html/rt3/etc/ 
 RT_SiteConfig.pm (saw this as possible solution)
 Put debug line system echo hello  /tmp/test into RTFM_Config.pm  
 and verified file was being hit.
 Added ShowArticle in  http://rt -RTFM-Configuration-Global-Group  
 Rights - Unprivileged - ShowArticle


 After each step above I did do the following:
 Rm -rf /var/www/html/rt3/var/mason_data/*
 /etc/init.d/httpd restart

 Thanks!








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Re: [rt-users] Fwd: RTFM articles for unprivileged user group

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Mr.Vandeley wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Kevin Falcone
 falc...@bestpractical.com wrote:

 On Mar 20, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Mr Vandeley wrote:

 I'm sorry to bother you but It would be really helpfull to get an
 answer to my question. Looking on previous list posts it seems that
 other people couldn't  make this work neither.  Old posts says that
 this feature wasn't fully functional.
 So, please, this should work with just this instructions [1] or  
 there
 is something else that I should be looking for.

 You should be looking for the release of RTFM2.4.2 and RT3.8.3

 -kevin

 Thanks Kevin for your kind answer, but [1] is there since version RTFM
 2.4.1. Recently I've updated RT from 3.8.1 to 3.8.2 and still  
 articles in
 RTFM are inaccessible to unprivileged users.
 So, you are saying that although manual says it should be working
 since previous versions I have to update them? There isn't any other
 point besides software version that I should look for?

There have been bug fixes for this feature in svn
These will be available in the RT3.8.3 release and the
RTFM2.4.2 release.  There is no set date for these
releases at this time

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Re: [rt-users] Fwd: RTFM articles for unprivileged user group

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:26 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:

 On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Kevin Falcone wrote:
 You should be looking for the release of RTFM2.4.2 and RT3.8.3

 With the obvious understanding of when it is done, do you have any  
 idea when you think this might occur?
 I'm asking because I was about to start on RTFM integration, but  
 I'll probably wait if the next update is coming out fairly soon.

There is still active work going on in the RT trunk so I don't have
any release plans other than we'd like it to be soon and when it is  
done

-kevin
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Re: [rt-users] RTFM Topics

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:25 AM, John Arends wrote:

 I have not defined the topics as global though. They are just defined
 for one class.

This sounds like a bug and I've bounced your mail to rtfm-b...@bestpractical.com

-kevin


 Mr.Vandeley wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:21 PM, John Arends jare...@illinois.edu  
 wrote:

 I'm testing RTFM right now. I have two classes defined as part of my
 test. One class has two topics defined, the other class has no  
 topics
 defined.

 For some reason when viewing an article in the class with no  
 topics, it
 looks like I am able to assign the two topics from the other class.

 Might I have something configured wrong? Or am I confused? I do  
 not have
 any global topics defined.



 John, for what I know, topics are independent from classes. So you  
 can
 define atopic as part of two different classes.

 From lib/RT/FM/Introduction.pod:
 Articles can belong to both global and class-specific Topics

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Re: [rt-users] Creating Tickets from Emails

2009-03-24 Thread Swart, Tom
I have installed fetchmail and configured it as per this guide:
http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-setup-request-tracker-36-on-debian-etch
.html

When I send an email to the address I have set up in exchange RT doesn't
receive it and when I send an email directly to the email of RT I get an
Undeliverable Message error. I'm running RT on Ubuntu 8.10.


-Original Message-
From: John Arends [mailto:jare...@illinois.edu] 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:15 PM
To: rt  rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Creating Tickets from Emails

Swart, Tom wrote:

 I have setup RT 3.6 on Ubuntu 8.10 and I am able to access the web 
 interface. I'm trying to setup the ability to email RT to create a 
 ticket. I have the aliases created for the queues. I was wondering how

 to configure RT to pull the emails for a exchange 2003 server?


The easiest thing is to set up an alias on your exchange server that 
sends mail to your RT server.

helpd...@my.org - helpd...@rt.my.org

Or just train your users to email helpd...@rt.my.org

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Re: [rt-users] TransactionObj OldValue is not working for me

2009-03-24 Thread Gene LeDuc
Apply a liberal dose of $RT::Logger and see what turns up.  I'd split your 
IF into 2 pieces and then stick a logger in the gap.  Something like

my $Trans = $self-TransactionObj;### because I'm a lazy typist
if ($Trans-Type eq Status)
{
   ### logger call to print value of -OldValue and -NewValue
   $RT::Logger-debug(( . $Trans-Id . ) oldvalue is  . 
$Trans-OldValueval ?. , newvalue is  . $Trans-NewValue);
   if ($Trans-OldValue ne autoclose  $Trans-NewValue eq resolved)
   {
blah blah
   }
}


At 12:51 PM 3/23/2009, slamp slamp wrote:
I have the following in my resolve scrip that I borrowed from the
site. I added the $self-TransactionObj-OldValue ne autoclose
portion but it does not seem to be working. Can anyone help? Basically
I don't want to get this notification if the status old value was set
to autoclose.

Condition: User defined
Action: Notify Ccs and Requestors
Template: Global resolved

Custom condition:

my $result = undef;

if ($self-TransactionObj-Type eq Status 
 $self-TransactionObj-OldValue ne autoclose 
 $self-TransactionObj-NewValue eq resolved)
{
 my $trans_list = $self-TicketObj-Transactions;
 my $trans;
 my $num_resolved = 0;

 while ($trans = $trans_list-Next)
 {
 $num_resolved++ if ($trans-Ticket == $self-TicketObj-Id) 
($trans-Type eq Status) 
($trans-NewValue eq resolved);
 }
 $result = ($num_resolved = 1);
}

return($result);
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Re: [rt-users] Including RTFM Articles in Ticket; broken layout

2009-03-24 Thread who else

bump_
:-)


who else wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 i have the option of including a RTFM (RT 3.8.2  RTFM 2.4.2) article into
 the ticket, and three options to choose the article in question. Third
 option is to scroll down a list of all articles. 
 
 Since this list contains not only the subject but also the summary, this
 will break the layout and the Go Buttons are out of reach, if you run a
 standard screen resolution; it's the same in  FF, IE7, Iron, Safari.
 
 Is there any setting to limit this list to just the subject or any other
 option to shrink this?
 
 Thanks.
 
 w_e
 

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[rt-users] RTx::BecomeUser

2009-03-24 Thread Jerrad Pierce
Has anyone been able to get RTx::BecomeUser working on a modern RT system?
My rt.cpan.org tickets have gone unheeded, and it'd be mighty useful
for debugging...

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[rt-users] Further iCal/RSS experimenting/problems some success

2009-03-24 Thread John Arends
A while back I posted that I could only get iCalendar/RSS feeds to work 
with SunBird and FireFox respectively. I could not get either to work 
with the Mac platform (iCal/Safari) or the Microsoft platform (Outlook 
2007).

As a test, I tried using HTTP authentication with Apache instead of RT's 
internal authentication. When using HTTP auth, the iCalendar and RSS 
feeds work with iCal and Safari. It looks like those two applications 
wanted to prompt for credentials and were able to figure out how to do 
it when using HTTP auth.

I'm still having no luck getting Outlook to subscribe to Internet 
Calendars or RSS feeds, even with HTTP auth. Has anyone had luck with 
this? Is Outlook so weird that nothing can be done? Since we're a heavy 
Exchange shop, I'd like to see if I can get this working with Outlook. 
This would really help push our RT adoption further.

Any thoughts from those who understand how this works better than me? 
For those with Safari/iCal, HTTP auth is your friend.
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Re: [rt-users] Command By Email and Multi-Value Custom Field

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Walford
Anyone?

 

Thanks,

 

Robert Walford

Network Administrator



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[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Walford
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:31 AM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: [rt-users] Command By Email and Multi-Value Custom Field

 

Hi Guys,

 

I am experiencing an issue using CommandByMail and multi-valued custom
fields.  We running RT 3.8.2.

 

The following fields are one value and works perfectly.

cf.{Category}: Telecom - Combobox: Select or enter one value

cf.{Origin}: E-mail -  Select one value

cf.{Severity_Level}: 5 -  Select one value

 

But the following fields are multiple values and do not work.

cf.{Equipment Impacted}: Router - Select multiple values

cf.{Services Impacted}: Internet - Select multiple values

 

 

Due to the spacing in the field name we have tried with quotations
(single/double) and without.

 

Any Thoughts?

 

 

Regards,

 

Robert Walford

Network Administrator

 

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[rt-users] how to transmit a value of custom field on an other custom field

2009-03-24 Thread hanane ourdani
Hi all,

I'm looking for a way to add tickets automatically when a select a value of
a Custom field, I try to do this:


Condition: defined by user
Action: Create tickets
Template: Approved
Stage: TransactionCreate

Condition:

return undef unless
($self-TicketObj-FirstCustomFieldValue('test2') =~ /Oui/i);
return 1;

Template:

===Create-Ticket: codereview
Subject: Code review for {$Tickets{'TOP'}-Subject}
Depended-On-By: TOP
Queue: Test
Type: approval
Content: Someone has created a ticket. you should review and approve it, so
they can finish their work
ENDOFCONTENT

This allows to create a ticket automaticlly when i Select 'Oui' on Custom
Field 'test2', i need also to transmit automaticlly a value of an other
custom field when i select 'Oui' on Custom Field 'test2', please can you
tell me how i can do this?

Thank you,
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[rt-users] Problem with Custom Field Edit

2009-03-24 Thread Ken Crocker
To all,


I am currently on 3.6.4. In it, there are a few default validation 
settings for Custom Fields. One of them is:

(?#Digits)^[\d.]+$

When I use this, however, it gives an error even though i am 
entering numbers in the field. Has anyone else had this problem? What I 
want it to do is ensure all entrees are numeric IF a value is entered.
Help anyone?


Kenn
LBNL

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[rt-users] Fill-in user details on ticket creation?

2009-03-24 Thread Jerrad Pierce
Hello,

Is there some way one might supply user details e.g; real name,
address, phone number?
We currently do this with a web form via REST, but it's not pretty.
Furthermore, we'd like
to be able to get this information into the system using Offline edits.

If there is no workable system right now, I was thinking it might be
reasonable to have a
scrip action test if the requestor previously existed, and if not,
fill in user details from an
included vCard? Would anyone be interested in (developing) such an extension?

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Re: [rt-users] Using RT in a large organization (thousands of users)

2009-03-24 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Tue 24.Mar'09 at 10:16:27 +0200, Peter Dole wrote:
Hi,
In the BestPractical web site, RT is described as RT is a ticketing
system for small- to medium-sized organizations.

That's our small-companiness showing. The problem is really that we
don't spend much, if any time on the marketing side of things. This is
probably obvious by the state of the corporate website.  That prose
dates from...sometime around 2002 or so, when RT really wasn't in use in
a whole lot of high-volume applications.


At the time, I would have blanched if you'd said you wanted to deploy
RT somewhere handling 1000 tickets a day.  These days, I know of
organizations pushing 10,000 tickets through RT on a slow day, bursting
to over 20,000 when things get busy.

3. Am I better off looking at a commercial system like Remedy / Peregrine
(for our organization size), due to potential cost of custom development
integrating RT?

You should know that I'm biased, but I certainly don't think so.  RT is
robust and scalable and there's an excellent community here and on
rt-develAnd of course, we at Best Practical can provide the sort of
commercial support you'd expect for a mission critical application.

Best,
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Re: [rt-users] Using RT in a large organization (thousands of users)

2009-03-24 Thread Jerrad Pierce
 At the time, I would have blanched if you'd said you wanted to deploy
 RT somewhere handling 1000 tickets a day.  These days, I know of
 organizations pushing 10,000 tickets through RT on a slow day, bursting
 to over 20,000 when things get busy.

    3. Am I better off looking at a commercial system like Remedy / Peregrine
    (for our organization size), due to potential cost of custom development
    integrating RT?

We're a relatively small org, but have done a fair bit of customization to RT
since we're using it as a CRM. Out of the box RT covered all of the basics,
and the wiki + extensions didn't hurt. We've put in about 100 man hours to
do some serious customizations since (many now public) since we rolled
out RT 8 months ago. I don't expect that would be much less with anything
else; users don't want to learn anything anyhow, so you've always got to try
to warp things to their whims ;-) Except that in those cases half the time
you'd discover what you wanted to do couldn't be done, whereas in RT you
start to get a better grasp of how everything's glued together. Also, if you
can make use of the built-in self-service interface, rather than
rolling your own,
that should make things much easier to adopt.

Just a few moments rambling thoughts on the matter,

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Re: [rt-users] Using RT in a large organization (thousands of users)

2009-03-24 Thread Ken Crocker

Peter,


   I might also add that we are now planning a project to convert our 
Remedy tickets to RT and move the help desk over. We have RT 3.6.4, not 
nearly as robust as 3.8.2,  and there are just too many flexible options 
for reporting with Custom Fields to NOT use RT.



Kenn
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On 3/24/2009 10:10 AM, Jesse Vincent wrote:


On Tue 24.Mar'09 at 10:16:27 +0200, Peter Dole wrote:
  

   Hi,
   In the BestPractical web site, RT is described as RT is a ticketing
   system for small- to medium-sized organizations.



That's our small-companiness showing. The problem is really that we
don't spend much, if any time on the marketing side of things. This is
probably obvious by the state of the corporate website.  That prose
dates from...sometime around 2002 or so, when RT really wasn't in use in
a whole lot of high-volume applications.


At the time, I would have blanched if you'd said you wanted to deploy
RT somewhere handling 1000 tickets a day.  These days, I know of
organizations pushing 10,000 tickets through RT on a slow day, bursting
to over 20,000 when things get busy.

  

   3. Am I better off looking at a commercial system like Remedy / Peregrine
   (for our organization size), due to potential cost of custom development
   integrating RT?



You should know that I'm biased, but I certainly don't think so.  RT is
robust and scalable and there's an excellent community here and on
rt-develAnd of course, we at Best Practical can provide the sort of
commercial support you'd expect for a mission critical application.

Best,
Jesse
  



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[rt-users] Show Custom Field Text

2009-03-24 Thread Venkateswaran, Subbaraman
We use rt 3.6.4 and trying to do text wrapping on ticket display for a
custom field of type text. We noticed that we do not have
html/Elements/ShowCustomFieldText and have only ShowCustomFieldWikitext.

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Re: [rt-users] How to allow users via self service to modify Location and phone info

2009-03-24 Thread Jerrad Pierce
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 14:54, Jet Wilda j...@mycolo.biz wrote:
 Hi,

    Is there a way to allow self service users to be able to modify
 there phone numbers and location information?
They need the ModifySelf right.

Alternatively, the vCard extension/hack I proposed earlier today
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Re: [rt-users] How to allow users via self service to modify Location and phone info

2009-03-24 Thread Jet Wilda




Hi,

 They have the ModifySelf right however that seems to only let them
change their password.

Thanks,
~Jet

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Hi,

 Is there a way to allow self service users to be able to modify
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  They need the ModifySelf right.

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Re: [rt-users] bizarre logouts with mysql on top level links

2009-03-24 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Tue 24.Mar'09 at 15:41:36 +1100, TN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have installed rt3.8.2 from debian sid, and it works fine using sqlite.
 
 However when I configure it with mysql, I have random logouts occurring.
 I login as root. If I then just keep clicking along the LHS links 
 (Home/Simple Search/Tickets/Tools/Config etc etc) then anywhere from 2 
 or more clicks the system will revert straight back to the login screen 
 as if I had been logged out. If I instead just keep clicking the same 
 menu item over  over, it never logs out.
 
 Also, if I go into the 'Configuration' level of the menu, and then start 
 randomly clicking in that level of the menu (Users/Groups/Queues etc) 
 then I can click forever and the system never logs out. If I then go 
 back to clicking the 'top' level menu again, it will log out after some 
 more clicks.
 
 If I then go back to sqlite, and do the same tests, everything is fine 
 in sqlite. This seems to be only an issues with mysql.
 
 I can't see any hints in syslog or apache logs or the mysql logs.

My rough guess is that you're ending up at different variants of your
host or domain name, which end up with different cookies

 
 Any ideas ?
 
 
 ps. i configured rt3.8.2 to work with mysql by the following method 
 since there seems to be a configuration bug in the 'schema' action in 
 rt-setup-database which results in an error claiming that the 
 Attachments table already exists (as if the script is trying to execute 
 twice?).
 
 rt-setup-database --datadir /usr/share/request-tracker3.8/etc --dba root 
 --prompt-for-dba-password --action create
 mysql -u root -p rt3  /usr/share/request-tracker3.8/etc/schema.mysql
 rt-setup-database --datadir /usr/share/request-tracker3.8/etc --dba root 
 --prompt-for-dba-password --action acl
 rt-setup-database --datadir /usr/share/request-tracker3.8/etc --dba root 
 --prompt-for-dba-password --action coredata
 rt-setup-database --datafile 
 /usr/share/request-tracker3.8/etc/initialdata --dba root 
 --prompt-for-dba-password --action insert
 
 All these perform without error, and a check of the db shows everything 
 is fine.
 
 
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Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7

2009-03-24 Thread Sean

Are there more people than michael and I that are interested in a solution to 
this? I can't believe that this isn't affecting more people. Maybe nobody uses 
signature lines? It seriously breaks messages when you have a signature and use 
the WYSIWYG editor, so this seems like a fairly big bug.

I have spent  alot of time trying to solve this, it is over my head, is anyone 
out there working on solving this? Im sure michael is also very interested in a 
solution as well, and hopefully others are too.


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Michael Finn mf...@nbutexas.com wrote:

 From: Michael Finn mf...@nbutexas.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7
 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 6:40 AM
 FWIW, the problem persists in IE8...
 
 Mike
 
  -Original Message-
  From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-
  boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Michael
 Finn
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:58 AM
  To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
  Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG
 editor and IE7
  
  I can't seem to let this go.  Comparing the
 Download (untitled) data
  with my signature, I see that they are the same length
 and shape --
 the
  same number of characters on each line.  That should
 be a big clue as
  to
  the truncation problem, as well as the
 'random' spaces in the middle
 of
  words -- they correspond to newline positions in my
 signature.
  
  Why does this only happen in IE (6/7/?)?  Why only
 when I'm creating a
  *new* ticket and not on reply/comment?
  
  Still investigating...
  Mike
  
   -Original Message-
   From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-
   boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of
 Michael Finn
   Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:01 PM
   To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
   Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with
 WYSIWYG editor and IE7
  
   A-ha!  That's a reasonable theory... I've
 got a signature on my
   account; my other users... not so much. ;)
  
   FWIW, I also have the problem occur on IE6.
  
   As you suggested, I removed my signature from my
 Preferences, and
 the
   problem went away.  Now, how does this help us
 solve the problem?
 If
   it were Firefox, I'd use Chris Pederick's
 wonderful Web Developer
  add-
   on (http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/)
 to pick it
 apart...
   anyone recommend a similar tool for IE7?
  
   Thanks,
   Mike
  
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From: Sean
 [mailto:stroke_of_de...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:54 PM
To: Alex Young;
 rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com; Michael Finn
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with
 WYSIWYG editor and IE7
   
   
I too am seeing this problem.
   
it only happens when:
   
1. the WYSIWYG editor is being used
2. IE7 is the browser
3. The user has a signature (i.e. RT
 automatically inserts text)
   
Im wondering if it has to do with the
 signature column being TEXT
  vs.
VARCHAR or something along those lines..
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Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7

2009-03-24 Thread jmoseley
Our users have certainly noticed this bug, so it affects us to some degree.
In order to submit this as a bug, create an RT ticket here:

http://rt3.fsck.com/?user=guestpass=guest



James Moseley




   
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 rt-users-bounces@  cc 
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   WYSIWYG editor and IE7  
 03/24/2009 02:25  
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 stroke_of_de...@y 
 ahoo.com  
   
   





Are there more people than michael and I that are interested in a solution
to this? I can't believe that this isn't affecting more people. Maybe
nobody uses signature lines? It seriously breaks messages when you have a
signature and use the WYSIWYG editor, so this seems like a fairly big bug.

I have spent  alot of time trying to solve this, it is over my head, is
anyone out there working on solving this? Im sure michael is also very
interested in a solution as well, and hopefully others are too.





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Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:43 PM, jmose...@corp.xanadoo.com wrote:

 Our users have certainly noticed this bug, so it affects us to some  
 degree.
 In order to submit this as a bug, create an RT ticket here:

Please don't create a bug.  One already exists
and is linked to the 3.8.3 release ticket
http://rt3.fsck.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=13320

It took a long time before someone was actually
able to provide a recipe for the bug.  It has nothing
to do with RTFM or RTx-EmailCompletion

-kevin



 http://rt3.fsck.com/?user=guestpass=guest



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 Please respond to
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 Are there more people than michael and I that are interested in a  
 solution
 to this? I can't believe that this isn't affecting more people. Maybe
 nobody uses signature lines? It seriously breaks messages when you  
 have a
 signature and use the WYSIWYG editor, so this seems like a fairly  
 big bug.

 I have spent  alot of time trying to solve this, it is over my head,  
 is
 anyone out there working on solving this? Im sure michael is also very
 interested in a solution as well, and hopefully others are too.





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Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Alex Young wrote:

 Great to see it being worked on. Notice that it's not just the
 signatures that can cause this, its whenever RT inserts text from my
 testing. Hoping the fix sorts out the other reasons for the bug too.

Actually, I've been trying to replicate this bug for months, and wasn't
able to do so until someone said 'I have a signature'.  Also, the bug
manifests differently in trunk because of other JS updates.

-kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Falcone
 Sent: 24 March 2009 20:09
 To: RT Users
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7


 On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:43 PM, jmose...@corp.xanadoo.com wrote:

 Our users have certainly noticed this bug, so it affects us to some
 degree.
 In order to submit this as a bug, create an RT ticket here:

 Please don't create a bug.  One already exists
 and is linked to the 3.8.3 release ticket
 http://rt3.fsck.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=13320

 It took a long time before someone was actually
 able to provide a recipe for the bug.  It has nothing
 to do with RTFM or RTx-EmailCompletion

 -kevin



 http://rt3.fsck.com/?user=guestpass=guest



 James Moseley





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 Are there more people than michael and I that are interested in a
 solution
 to this? I can't believe that this isn't affecting more people. Maybe
 nobody uses signature lines? It seriously breaks messages when you
 have a
 signature and use the WYSIWYG editor, so this seems like a fairly
 big bug.

 I have spent  alot of time trying to solve this, it is over my head,
 is
 anyone out there working on solving this? Im sure michael is also  
 very
 interested in a solution as well, and hopefully others are too.





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Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7

2009-03-24 Thread Alex Young
Okay. I know this happens when hitting Reply on a ticket transaction and
also when inserting text from RTFM. Does it still do that in trunk and
on your test system, or is it limited to me?

I'm quite happy to do any testing you need to get this bug fixed.


-Original Message-
From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Falcone
Sent: 24 March 2009 20:38
To: RT Users
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7


On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Alex Young wrote:

 Great to see it being worked on. Notice that it's not just the
 signatures that can cause this, its whenever RT inserts text from my
 testing. Hoping the fix sorts out the other reasons for the bug too.

Actually, I've been trying to replicate this bug for months, and wasn't
able to do so until someone said 'I have a signature'.  Also, the bug
manifests differently in trunk because of other JS updates.

-kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Falcone
 Sent: 24 March 2009 20:09
 To: RT Users
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7


 On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:43 PM, jmose...@corp.xanadoo.com wrote:

 Our users have certainly noticed this bug, so it affects us to some
 degree.
 In order to submit this as a bug, create an RT ticket here:

 Please don't create a bug.  One already exists
 and is linked to the 3.8.3 release ticket
 http://rt3.fsck.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=13320

 It took a long time before someone was actually
 able to provide a recipe for the bug.  It has nothing
 to do with RTFM or RTx-EmailCompletion

 -kevin



 http://rt3.fsck.com/?user=guestpass=guest



 James Moseley





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Please respond to
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 Are there more people than michael and I that are interested in a
 solution
 to this? I can't believe that this isn't affecting more people. Maybe
 nobody uses signature lines? It seriously breaks messages when you
 have a
 signature and use the WYSIWYG editor, so this seems like a fairly
 big bug.

 I have spent  alot of time trying to solve this, it is over my head,
 is
 anyone out there working on solving this? Im sure michael is also  
 very
 interested in a solution as well, and hopefully others are too.





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Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Falcone

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Alex Young wrote:

 Okay. I know this happens when hitting Reply on a ticket transaction

This works fine on 3.8.2 and trunk for me (without a signature)

When the patch is in subversion, ticket 13320 will be closed
and people can feel free to test with trunk

-kevin

 and
 also when inserting text from RTFM. Does it still do that in trunk and
 on your test system, or is it limited to me?

 I'm quite happy to do any testing you need to get this bug fixed.


 -Original Message-
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Falcone
 Sent: 24 March 2009 20:38
 To: RT Users
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7


 On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Alex Young wrote:

 Great to see it being worked on. Notice that it's not just the
 signatures that can cause this, its whenever RT inserts text from my
 testing. Hoping the fix sorts out the other reasons for the bug too.

 Actually, I've been trying to replicate this bug for months, and  
 wasn't
 able to do so until someone said 'I have a signature'.  Also, the bug
 manifests differently in trunk because of other JS updates.

 -kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Falcone
 Sent: 24 March 2009 20:09
 To: RT Users
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Tracking a bug with WYSIWYG editor and IE7


 On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:43 PM, jmose...@corp.xanadoo.com wrote:

 Our users have certainly noticed this bug, so it affects us to some
 degree.
 In order to submit this as a bug, create an RT ticket here:

 Please don't create a bug.  One already exists
 and is linked to the 3.8.3 release ticket
 http://rt3.fsck.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=13320

 It took a long time before someone was actually
 able to provide a recipe for the bug.  It has nothing
 to do with RTFM or RTx-EmailCompletion

 -kevin



 http://rt3.fsck.com/?user=guestpass=guest



 James Moseley





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   03/24/2009 02:25
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   Please respond to
   stroke_of_de...@y
   ahoo.com







 Are there more people than michael and I that are interested in a
 solution
 to this? I can't believe that this isn't affecting more people.  
 Maybe
 nobody uses signature lines? It seriously breaks messages when you
 have a
 signature and use the WYSIWYG editor, so this seems like a fairly
 big bug.

 I have spent  alot of time trying to solve this, it is over my head,
 is
 anyone out there working on solving this? Im sure michael is also
 very
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