Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Roy El-Hames

Hi;

We use one instance for 40 or so departments across 5 different sites in 
2 countries ..based on queue/s per department

Worked well for the past 4 years.
With the right permissions , the look and feel as if it were different 
instances.with the added bonus tickets can be shipped between different 
queues and the maintenance is simpler.
Creating new queues, queue cf's, watchers and users are managed by the 
sysadmins in the different sites, scrips are created and managed 
centrally by me and my team.


Regards;
Roy

james machado wrote:

Hi All,

My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in my
I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've put
feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT to
see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
separate instance of RT would be desirable.

So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

Thanks,

James

  



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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Todd Chapman
I have had to think about this a lot. Maintaining one RT with customizations
for lots of different groups can be challenging. Maintaining multiple RT
instances and trying to keep some customizations in sync across those
instances can also be a bit of a pain.

So what it comes down to for me is risk. I can't have my externally facing
customer service queues being screwed up by customization for my internal
queues. So for me customer service gets its own instance and everyone else
gets another instance.

-Todd

On 1/9/08, james machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in
 my I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've
 put feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT
 to see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
 getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
 deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
 RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
 Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
 volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
 Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
 separate instance of RT would be desirable.

 So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
 thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
 on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

 Thanks,

 James

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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Bob Goldstein
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I have had to think about this a lot. Maintaining one RT with customizations
for lots of different groups can be challenging. Maintaining multiple RT
instances and trying to keep some customizations in sync across those
instances can also be a bit of a pain.

So what it comes down to for me is risk. I can't have my externally facing
customer service queues being screwed up by customization for my internal
queues. So for me customer service gets its own instance and everyone else
gets another instance.


 Interesting.  For code customizations, I have my paths set up
 so that a given instance gets a base part (governing the core RT version),
 a common part for all instances (of that RT version) where I put _vendor
 files, and a per-instance part.  Any customization I want to apply
 to all instances is easy, and I can still have per-instance differences.

 Of course, if you mean customizations in the RT config file or in
 the database, this doesn't help.

   bobg


-Todd

On 1/9/08, james machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in
 my I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've
 put feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT
 to see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
 getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
 deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
 RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
 Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
 volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
 Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
 separate instance of RT would be desirable.

 So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
 thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
 on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

 Thanks,

 James

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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Crocker

To all,


	I work in the IT division and we only have one instance and it is used 
primarily for keeping track of requests for maintenance, custom work, 
etc. for our many (over 50 queues) software applications. I have 
developed an approval (ticket review and prioritization) and QA 
(Acceptance testing) workflow set of scrips and templates and it works 
great. However, there are so many other areas here where RT could be 
helpful. Being in Tech Services and the Sys Admin of our only version of 
RT, do I keep it to myself or spread the joy? From that perspective, I 
have to agree with Bob Goldstein. It really depends on the priorities of 
your department. Does the company have other departments where someone 
would be capable of administrating another instance of RT? Are there any 
chances that tickets from one instance might want/need to be transferred 
to another? What kind of differences/customizations would be needed 
between instances? I suggest doing an analysis of those subjects and any 
others you might come up with and prioritize their values and decide 
from there. I'm going with the one instance. That way, I can control 
what customizations are made to our one instance. If I ever get a 
department that has radically different needs and requirements, then I 
might want a different instance. For me, redundancy is usually a 
maintenance nightmare and I don't like designing or creating unnecessary 
work. But hey, that's me. Good luck!


Kenn
LBNL

On 1/9/2008 3:53 PM, james machado wrote:

Hi All,

My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in 
my I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've 
put feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit 
from RT to see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  
I am finely getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some 
guidance on deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share 
an instance of RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT 
for each department.  Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it 
look like the traffic volume will be an issue.  These are all internally 
created tickets with no Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet 
access were required then a separate instance of RT would be desirable.


So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or 
thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when 
deciding on 1 or more instances of RT and why.


Thanks,

James




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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread The Anarcat
Here at Koumbit.org we've setup an extra RT instance for a fellow
organisation/partner that needed the resources. It's a seperate
instance because I didn't feel confortable giving them user access to
our RT.

I would never consider deploying *another* RT for ourselves, too much
trouble. Seems to me Queues and Groups can do all I need.

Now of course if you need nifty customizations like graphical
modifications or really particular behaviour, you might need seperate
instances, but in my experience, it's too much trouble.

A.

-- 
Computer science is no more about computers
than astronomy is about telescopes
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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-09 Thread Bob Goldstein

  I work in a university computer center.  We try to set up
  an instance per department or other large unit (e.g. college)
  on request.  Part of it is, I can hand the instance to an
  admin and say have fun.  They can then handle new users,
  privs, new queues, etc.  (I have to connect email addresses
  to new queues, though.)

  There are many ways, all good.  It partly depends on how much
  control a given unit wants over it's RT instance, to a lesser extent
  the security of isolating instances, and the nuissance of wanting
  to transfer tickets between instances.

  A downside of many instances is that you can't transfer tickets
  between them, and you need someone to take care of each instance.
  We do the sysadmin work, but the dept has to deal with adding
  consultants, etc.  

bobg


Hi All,

My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in my
I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've put
feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT to
see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
separate instance of RT would be desirable.

So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

Thanks,

James

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Hi All,brbrMy question is both hypothetical and practical.nbsp; I#39;ve 
got RT deployed in my I.T. department doing what it does best and it#39;s wor
king well.nbsp; I#39;ve put feelers out to some other departments that I thi
nk could benefit from RT to see if they would be interested in having it setup
 for them.nbsp; I am finely getting some positive responses so I#39;m lookin
g for some guidance on deployment options.nbsp; I am trying to decide if I sh
ould share an instance of RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of 
RT for each department.nbsp; Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it
 look like the traffic volume will be an issue.nbsp; These are all internally
 created tickets with no Internet access to my RT instance.nbsp; If Internet 
access were required then a separate instance of RT would be desirable.
brbrSo what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
 thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding o
n 1 or more instances of RT and why.brbrThanks,brbrJamesbr

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