Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Jamie Watts

--- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's basically what I said, but I don't deal with
> losses very well.  If
> they go out & play their hearts out like Lane
> Bearden & Tyler Watts did when
> they were injured & they lose, I can live with that,
> but I don't want to
> hear the excuses that we didn't win because we
> weren't expected to.  ROLL
> DAMN TIDE & I'm a piss poor loser & I'll be damned
> if I will ever get used
> to it.

 I can agree with thatI'm one that hates the term
"moral victory"I don't believe in themJamie

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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Pat Smoot
That's basically what I said, but I don't deal with losses very well.  If
they go out & play their hearts out like Lane Bearden & Tyler Watts did when
they were injured & they lose, I can live with that, but I don't want to
hear the excuses that we didn't win because we weren't expected to.  ROLL
DAMN TIDE & I'm a piss poor loser & I'll be damned if I will ever get used
to it.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:23 PM
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>
>  To say that you can't live with the excuse of lost
> scholarships, is to truly look at the situation with
> crimson glasses Patthe 03,04 & 05 teams will be
> just above Div. IAA because of the
> reductionsthat's going to hurt when it comes to
> playing in the SECyes BAMA had scholarships cut in
> the mid 90's but they got part of them back on
> appealthat didn't happen this timeI have no
> doubt that Coach Shula will be a top notch motivator
> and that the players will respond well to challenges
> they facebut times are going to be tough for the
> next 3 to 5 yearsthe point I was trying to make
> was that I wanted to see a team and coaching staff
> that would respond well to the adversity, and not give
> up when the going gets toughJamie
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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Jamie Watts

--- Pat Smoot wrote:
> Coach Bryant always said that he could take an
> average player & make him
> great.  My expectations are not going undefeated,
> but having a winning
> season every year even during this difficult time. 
> If CMS is a good
> motivator, this will happen & I can't live with
> excuses of lost
> scholarships.  Motivating the players to play harder
> than they thought they
> could will win many games & I still believe that
> there will always be enough
> talent at BAMA because of the tradition to take care
> of the rest.  ROLL DAMN
> TIDE !!!

 To say that you can't live with the excuse of lost
scholarships, is to truly look at the situation with
crimson glasses Patthe 03,04 & 05 teams will be
just above Div. IAA because of the
reductionsthat's going to hurt when it comes to
playing in the SECyes BAMA had scholarships cut in
the mid 90's but they got part of them back on
appealthat didn't happen this timeI have no
doubt that Coach Shula will be a top notch motivator
and that the players will respond well to challenges
they facebut times are going to be tough for the
next 3 to 5 yearsthe point I was trying to make
was that I wanted to see a team and coaching staff
that would respond well to the adversity, and not give
up when the going gets toughJamie

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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Pat Smoot
Coach Bryant always said that he could take an average player & make him
great.  My expectations are not going undefeated, but having a winning
season every year even during this difficult time.  If CMS is a good
motivator, this will happen & I can't live with excuses of lost
scholarships.  Motivating the players to play harder than they thought they
could will win many games & I still believe that there will always be enough
talent at BAMA because of the tradition to take care of the rest.  ROLL DAMN
TIDE !!!


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL


> I certainly didn't mean to make it sound like I was
> lowering my expectationsI expect wins every
> saturdaybut I'm also being realisticthis team
> and coaching staff have one hell of a fight ahead in
> the next few yearsif they come out disciplined,
> well coached, and ready to fight for each play, then
> good will happens for this teamJamie
>
> --- "Jenny H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mike, I'm not lowering my expectations. NEVER!! THIS
> > IS ALABAMA
> > FOOTBALL! Yes, I expect Alabama to win every
> > competition they
> > enter - football, baseball, tiddlywinks, whatever. I
> > guess my 'amen' to
> > the original post is just an acceptance of the
> > difficulties facing Coach
> > Shula and the team - plus a (much too recent) memory
> > of 2000. Yes, I
> > want the wins, but at least as much as that, I DON'T
> > want to see the
> > confusion, lackadaisical, me first, out-of-shape,
> > give-up-in-the-first-quarter attitudes that I saw in
> > 2000. If we have the
> > teamwork and
> > commitment that I expect to see from Alabama
> > football, then the wins
> > will take care of themselves.
> > Jenny
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Ricky McMahan
I believe the University has set CMS's winning percentage goal at around 
53.8% (7-6) for the season. Even though our schedule is extremely tough, 
I won't be surprised if Shula pulls out a 69.2% (9-4) season, but only 
barring any *key* injuries to the team. As Slef pointed out in his post 
last night, this team cannot afford to lose anyone during the season. 
With that said, I *hope* they play "lights-out" football!

But... Hope is not an Action Plan ($1).

Rick
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Yea, Alabama! Drown'em Tide!
Jamie Watts wrote:
 I certainly didn't mean to make it sound like I was
lowering my expectationsI expect wins every
saturdaybut I'm also being realisticthis team
and coaching staff have one hell of a fight ahead in
the next few yearsif they come out disciplined,
well coached, and ready to fight for each play, then
good will happen for this teamJamie 



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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Jamie Watts
 I certainly didn't mean to make it sound like I was
lowering my expectationsI expect wins every
saturdaybut I'm also being realisticthis team
and coaching staff have one hell of a fight ahead in
the next few yearsif they come out disciplined,
well coached, and ready to fight for each play, then
good will happens for this teamJamie 

--- "Jenny H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike, I'm not lowering my expectations. NEVER!! THIS
> IS ALABAMA
> FOOTBALL! Yes, I expect Alabama to win every
> competition they
> enter - football, baseball, tiddlywinks, whatever. I
> guess my 'amen' to
> the original post is just an acceptance of the
> difficulties facing Coach
> Shula and the team - plus a (much too recent) memory
> of 2000. Yes, I
> want the wins, but at least as much as that, I DON'T
> want to see the
> confusion, lackadaisical, me first, out-of-shape,
> give-up-in-the-first-quarter attitudes that I saw in
> 2000. If we have the
> teamwork and
> commitment that I expect to see from Alabama
> football, then the wins
> will take care of themselves.
> Jenny


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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Jamie!

2003-07-09 Thread Jamie Watts

--- SAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You been here?
> http://us.redstripebeer.com/
> 
> ScR

 Coll SiteThankee ThankeeHOORAY BEER

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[RollTideFan] Hey Jamie!

2003-07-09 Thread SAR
You been here?
http://us.redstripebeer.com/

ScR

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[RollTideFan] Key defenders must step up...

2003-07-09 Thread J.E. Lisby
	The potential is certainly there to repeat recent success. But if this 
year's Alabama defense hopes to approach its 2002 ranking, then several key 
athletes must elevate their game to the next level.

http://alabama.theinsiders.com/2/120247.html



J.E. "Jay" Lisby
Bama: Inside the Crimson Tide
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[RollTideFan] Fw: Where are those weapons?

2003-07-09 Thread SAR
 Go to www.google.com and type in:  weapons of mass destruction
 Do not press enter or click on search.  Click on "I'm feeling lucky."  Be sure to
read the error message word for word and click on the links there.


ScR


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Re: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread SAR
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From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> And they both must be really wealthy. On another site it said the happy
> couple gave each other a Hummer to celebrate the wedding.

It really should have said, "Hummer/Gummer" These days they are so good at it, it is
tough to tell which one you might receiveesp. if it is for free.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread SAR
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From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A good marksman good have taken both of those fags
> out with one shot.
> 
> Slef E.

Unless the marksman was a fag and then he'd have to be jealous to do it.

ScR


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RE: [RollTideFan] JoBu visits Yankeeland...film @ 11

2003-07-09 Thread John R. Wodziak
Ain't you ever heard the old New England ditty that goes:

"Hooray! Hooray! Todays the first of May.
Outdoor screwing begins today!"
With something like that in your culture, how can you make it a crime?

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Quoting Joel Perry at 01:20 PM 07/09/2003:
And the strange thing is the tapes allegedly show folks having sex in the
park. No mention of THAT being a crime.
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I only have two words for thisJURY DUTY!!!

http://www.nbc30.com/news/2317555/detail.html


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Re: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Jeff Todd
Bullshit! Keep payin' ferum! You'll get more *BANG* fer
yer bucks!

Slef E.

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> Must be something to do with being single cause I have
> been told several times that if I had a wife or gurlfriend I could get a
> free Hummer.


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RE: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Perry
Oh, it's a vehicle. And they're not free either. I'm saving up money now to
pay for a Hummer. Must be something to do with being single cause I have
been told several times that if I had a wife or gurlfriend I could get a
free Hummer.


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was that a vehicle or something else?  The something else would be free (to
a certain extent)

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> And they both must be really wealthy. On another site it said the happy
> couple gave each other a Hummer to celebrate the wedding.
>
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030708/170/4mhcm.html&e=4&ncid=996
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> kurt
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Re: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Devonna Snuggs
was that a vehicle or something else?  The something else would be free (to
a certain extent)

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> And they both must be really wealthy. On another site it said the happy
> couple gave each other a Hummer to celebrate the wedding.
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Perry
And they both must be really wealthy. On another site it said the happy
couple gave each other a Hummer to celebrate the wedding.

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Subject:[RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030708/170/4mhcm.html&e=4&ncid=996


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RE: [RollTideFan] JoBu visits Yankeeland...film @ 11

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Perry
And the strange thing is the tapes allegedly show folks having sex in the
park. No mention of THAT being a crime.

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I only have two words for thisJURY DUTY!!!

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RE: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Perry
I wonder who gets to be on top first?

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Re: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Jeff Todd
A good marksman good have taken both of those fags
out with one shot.

Slef E.

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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Long article on Croom

2003-07-09 Thread kr10
BINGO.  That's a goodie! 

kurt
> 
> From: "Mike Laborde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Wait a minute! I'm not clicking an URL that's called PackersNews.com. Probably one 
> of them porny sites!
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[RollTideFan] JoBu visits Yankeeland...film @ 11

2003-07-09 Thread John R. Wodziak
I only have two words for thisJURY DUTY!!!

http://www.nbc30.com/news/2317555/detail.html

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Re: [RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread Devonna Snuggs
um, that was gross!!!

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[RollTideFan] Nothing like a good old summer time wedding

2003-07-09 Thread kr10
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030708/170/4mhcm.html&e=4&ncid=996


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Re: [RollTideFan] Long article on Croom

2003-07-09 Thread Jeff Todd
BBBWWWA!!

Hey, Little Jimmie! Check that site out
and give us a report.

Slef E.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:54 AM
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> Wait a minute! I'm not clicking an URL that's called PackersNews.com.
Probably one of them porny sites!


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RE: [RollTideFan] Long article on Croom

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Laborde
Wait a minute! I'm not clicking an URL that's called PackersNews.com. Probably one of 
them porny sites!


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Subject: [RollTideFan] Long article on Croom


http://www.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_11021183.shtml









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RE: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Laborde
LMAO!!

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Laborde squealed: Failure and success both breed themselves.


Well that's just morally wrong.

Fun perhaps, but morally wrong.







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RE: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Baker, Lee
That's all well and good, but when the teams you play (UT, Aub, OK, LSU, UGa, etc) 
have more talent and scholarship players, LOGIC dictates that they will win MOST of 
those games.  My fear is that some will squeal and whine if we do not win enough for 
them in the coming 2-3 years, and said people will be screaming for Mike Shula's head. 
 This is very shortsighted, IMO.

Lee

UA  '92

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Amen, IAWTP.

RTR
LC
--- Mike Laborde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO! Absolutely not. This is ALABAMA football.
> Expectations must be kept high or we will get used
> to being satisfied with
> 'moral victories' and 'good efforts' and I think
> that is bullshit. I expect Bama to WIN every single
> game they play. Every
> one! I will not be satisfied with 'they played
> hard'.
> 
> Lower expectations now and say it for the next 3-5
> years and you can forget Bama returning to it's
> historical place. Failure
> and success both breed themselves.
> 
> You get what you accept. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Jenny H.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL
> 
> 
> Can I hear a loud 'amen' on this?! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Old news?

2003-07-09 Thread Steven Johnson
Another bonehead move by the No Clue Athletic
Association.

RTR
LC
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/tim_layden/news/2003/07/03/layden_insider/
> 
> New NCAA rules may virtually eliminate two-a-days
> Posted: Thursday July 03, 2003 1:14 PM
>   Click for archives
> 
> College football coaches are counting the days. Not
> the days remaining until practice begins (about 30,
> in most cases), but the actual number of practice
> days allowed in August and how to use them. I spent
> some time this week with Jim Tressel, head coach of
> the defending national champion Ohio State Buckeyes.
> We talked about his offense (stacked), his defense
> (almost as stacked) and his schedule (no road games
> until an October tilt at Wisconsin. At night. At
> Camp Randall. Whoa).
> 
> But it was only a matter of time until our
> conversation turned to the new NCAA rules regarding
> preseason practices. Know this: Some people are
> complainers; Tressel is not one of these people. But
> he's more than a little bit intrigued by how he
> should handle one of the most significant practice
> rules changes in NCAA football history.
> 
> In effect, the NCAA has legislated out of existence
> one of the most enduring traditions of the sport:
> two-a-days. The bureaucrats haven't entirely killed
> double sessions, but they've passed a new rule
> mandating that teams cannot practice twice a day on
> consecutive days. Moreover, on double-session days
> players must be given at least three hours between
> sessions, and those three hours can't be used for
> meetings. There's more: Freshmen no longer can
> report early, and the first five days of team
> practices are limited to one practice a day.
> "Everywhere you go, coaches are asking each other,
> 'How are you going to handle it?'" Tressel told me.
> 
> Two-a-days are as much a part of football as goal
> posts and cheerleaders. Anybody who has played even
> high school football has a fond (or, more likely,
> painful) memory of laboring under a brutal summer
> sun, preparing for the season that lay ahead.
> Anybody who has won a championship can remember
> celebrating in November, re-living and crediting the
> hot August workouts. Two-a-days can be brutal beyond
> description. If you don't remember or don't believe
> me, read The Junction Boys. But as tough as they
> are, there's little question that double sessions
> allow for rapid conditioning and forge camaraderie.
> 
> Of course, the landscape has changed. In recent
> years players have died in the summer heat,
> dehydrated from pushing themselves, often fueled by
> dangerous supplements that Bear Bryant's boys never
> imagined. Two-a-days have become endangered because
> of concern over the welfare of athletes and the
> financial instinct of schools, which seek to avoid
> lawsuits. The change in practice schedules is a
> safety issue, and also a dollars-and-cents one.
> 
> It's hard to argue against legislation designed to
> prevent the deaths of young players, although the
> issue is more complex. Supplements clearly are a
> culprit, not only because of their immediate effects
> during heat exercise, but also for their insidious
> ability to create monster athletes. Are 18-year-old
> linemen meant to carry 350 pounds and run gassers?
> That train, however, has left the station, and
> pulling it back in will take years. In fact, it
> might never happen. Therefore, change in the
> practice rules was inevitable.
> 
> Teams will have to be creative. They are allowed 29
> practices before their first game, but with the
> five-day break-in period and the double-session
> rule, it will be hard to have more than seven or
> eight two-a-days before hitting game week. "Do you
> want to have two-a-days during game week?" Tressel
> asked. "We're going to have to ask ourselves that
> question."
> 
> Another question, too: Will teams be as fit and
> tough as in previous years? Possibly not. However,
> if a life or two is saved, it's worth it.
> 
> And I'm not so sure teams will be softer. Earlier
> this week, a group of more than 30 Ohio State
> players ran sprints on the Buckeyes' practice field
> at high noon under a blazing sun. Other groups would
> run later or had run earlier in the day. Players
> everywhere are doing the same thing. These are
> "voluntary" summer workouts. "But," said senior
> quarterback Craig Krenzel, "everybody is here."
> Players and coaches adjust. They find a way.
> 
> Sports Illustrated senior writer Tim Layden is a
> regular contributor to SI.com. Click here to send
> him a question or comment.
> 
> 
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Steven Johnson
Amen, IAWTP.

RTR
LC
--- Mike Laborde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO! Absolutely not. This is ALABAMA football.
> Expectations must be kept high or we will get used
> to being satisfied with
> 'moral victories' and 'good efforts' and I think
> that is bullshit. I expect Bama to WIN every single
> game they play. Every
> one! I will not be satisfied with 'they played
> hard'.
> 
> Lower expectations now and say it for the next 3-5
> years and you can forget Bama returning to it's
> historical place. Failure
> and success both breed themselves.
> 
> You get what you accept. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Jenny H.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL
> 
> 
> Can I hear a loud 'amen' on this?! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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[RollTideFan] Old news?

2003-07-09 Thread kr10
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/tim_layden/news/2003/07/03/layden_insider/

New NCAA rules may virtually eliminate two-a-days
Posted: Thursday July 03, 2003 1:14 PM
  Click for archives

College football coaches are counting the days. Not the days remaining until practice 
begins (about 30, in most cases), but the actual number of practice days allowed in 
August and how to use them. I spent some time this week with Jim Tressel, head coach 
of the defending national champion Ohio State Buckeyes. We talked about his offense 
(stacked), his defense (almost as stacked) and his schedule (no road games until an 
October tilt at Wisconsin. At night. At Camp Randall. Whoa).

But it was only a matter of time until our conversation turned to the new NCAA rules 
regarding preseason practices. Know this: Some people are complainers; Tressel is not 
one of these people. But he's more than a little bit intrigued by how he should handle 
one of the most significant practice rules changes in NCAA football history.

In effect, the NCAA has legislated out of existence one of the most enduring 
traditions of the sport: two-a-days. The bureaucrats haven't entirely killed double 
sessions, but they've passed a new rule mandating that teams cannot practice twice a 
day on consecutive days. Moreover, on double-session days players must be given at 
least three hours between sessions, and those three hours can't be used for meetings. 
There's more: Freshmen no longer can report early, and the first five days of team 
practices are limited to one practice a day. "Everywhere you go, coaches are asking 
each other, 'How are you going to handle it?'" Tressel told me.

Two-a-days are as much a part of football as goal posts and cheerleaders. Anybody who 
has played even high school football has a fond (or, more likely, painful) memory of 
laboring under a brutal summer sun, preparing for the season that lay ahead. Anybody 
who has won a championship can remember celebrating in November, re-living and 
crediting the hot August workouts. Two-a-days can be brutal beyond description. If you 
don't remember or don't believe me, read The Junction Boys. But as tough as they are, 
there's little question that double sessions allow for rapid conditioning and forge 
camaraderie.

Of course, the landscape has changed. In recent years players have died in the summer 
heat, dehydrated from pushing themselves, often fueled by dangerous supplements that 
Bear Bryant's boys never imagined. Two-a-days have become endangered because of 
concern over the welfare of athletes and the financial instinct of schools, which seek 
to avoid lawsuits. The change in practice schedules is a safety issue, and also a 
dollars-and-cents one.

It's hard to argue against legislation designed to prevent the deaths of young 
players, although the issue is more complex. Supplements clearly are a culprit, not 
only because of their immediate effects during heat exercise, but also for their 
insidious ability to create monster athletes. Are 18-year-old linemen meant to carry 
350 pounds and run gassers? That train, however, has left the station, and pulling it 
back in will take years. In fact, it might never happen. Therefore, change in the 
practice rules was inevitable.

Teams will have to be creative. They are allowed 29 practices before their first game, 
but with the five-day break-in period and the double-session rule, it will be hard to 
have more than seven or eight two-a-days before hitting game week. "Do you want to 
have two-a-days during game week?" Tressel asked. "We're going to have to ask 
ourselves that question."

Another question, too: Will teams be as fit and tough as in previous years? Possibly 
not. However, if a life or two is saved, it's worth it.

And I'm not so sure teams will be softer. Earlier this week, a group of more than 30 
Ohio State players ran sprints on the Buckeyes' practice field at high noon under a 
blazing sun. Other groups would run later or had run earlier in the day. Players 
everywhere are doing the same thing. These are "voluntary" summer workouts. "But," 
said senior quarterback Craig Krenzel, "everybody is here." Players and coaches 
adjust. They find a way.

Sports Illustrated senior writer Tim Layden is a regular contributor to SI.com. Click 
here to send him a question or comment.


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[RollTideFan] Long article on Croom

2003-07-09 Thread kr10
http://www.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_11021183.shtml


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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread PIRATESPT
AMENThey SHALL win every game!!

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RE: [RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.....

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Laborde
 eheh...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.


COOL!

I wish they'd play more games on Thursday night. Helps keep the riff-raff at home 
cause they have to work at the chicken
plant the next morning.







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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Jenny H.
Mike, I'm not lowering my expectations. NEVER!! THIS IS ALABAMA
FOOTBALL! Yes, I expect Alabama to win every competition they
enter - football, baseball, tiddlywinks, whatever. I guess my 'amen' to
the original post is just an acceptance of the difficulties facing Coach
Shula and the team - plus a (much too recent) memory of 2000. Yes, I
want the wins, but at least as much as that, I DON'T want to see the
confusion, lackadaisical, me first, out-of-shape,
give-up-in-the-first-quarter attitudes that I saw in 2000. If we have the
teamwork and
commitment that I expect to see from Alabama football, then the wins
will take care of themselves.
Jenny

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Laborde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL


> NO! Absolutely not. This is ALABAMA football. Expectations must be kept
high or we will get used to being satisfied with
> 'moral victories' and 'good efforts' and I think that is bullshit. I
expect Bama to WIN every single game they play. Every
> one! I will not be satisfied with 'they played hard'.
>
> Lower expectations now and say it for the next 3-5 years and you can
forget Bama returning to it's historical place. Failure
> and success both breed themselves.
>
> You get what you accept.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jenny H.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL
>
>
> Can I hear a loud 'amen' on this?!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Perry
Laborde squealed: Failure and success both breed themselves.


Well that's just morally wrong.

Fun perhaps, but morally wrong.








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RE: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Laborde
NO! Absolutely not. This is ALABAMA football. Expectations must be kept high or we 
will get used to being satisfied with
'moral victories' and 'good efforts' and I think that is bullshit. I expect Bama to 
WIN every single game they play. Every
one! I will not be satisfied with 'they played hard'.

Lower expectations now and say it for the next 3-5 years and you can forget Bama 
returning to it's historical place. Failure
and success both breed themselves.

You get what you accept. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny H.
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL


Can I hear a loud 'amen' on this?! 







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Re: [RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.....

2003-07-09 Thread Devonna Snuggs
I just read that in in the paper...I guess the only bright side to that is
that it's an away game for us.

- Original Message -
From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'BamaFanForever'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:09 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.


> UA-MSU may play on a Thursday
> 07/09/03
> Alabama's football game at Mississippi State, scheduled for Saturday, Nov.
> 8, may be moved up to Thursday so the game can be broadcast nationally on
> ESPN.
> ESPN representatives have discussed the move with Mississippi State
> officials, according to MSU spokesman Mike Nemeth.
> "I think there is an interest," Nemeth said. "I don't know how far along
the
> talks have reached. I really believe (a decision) will happen in the next
> week."
> Both teams have a bye the previous weekend so it won't be a short week of
> preparation if the game is moved forward, as it appears it will be. It
would
> also give each team extra time to prepare for the following game. Alabama
> follows with a game at home against LSU on Nov. 15 and Mississippi State
> travels to Tennessee.
> The network attempted to move last season's game between the teams to
> Thursday night but UA Athletics Director Mal Moore declined the offer.
> State, however, has a history under coach Jackie Sherrill of playing some
of
> its home games on Thursdays.
> Ovcr the years, Alabama officials have balked at playing on Thursday
night,
> saying it was an inconvenience to their fans. Moore said last week that he
> had not discussed this year's game with ESPN or Mississippi State but
added
> that "everything is initiated with the home team."
> The Crimson Tide last played on a Thursday during the 2001 season. A
> September home game against Southern Mississippi was moved to Thursday,
Nov.
> 29, after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in New York canceled all SEC
games
> that weekend.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.....

2003-07-09 Thread Jeff Todd
COOL!

I wish they'd play more games on Thursday night. Helps keep the riff-raff at
home cause they have to work at the chicken plant the next morning.

Slef E.

- Original Message -
From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'BamaFanForever'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:09 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.


> UA-MSU may play on a Thursday
> 07/09/03
> Alabama's football game at Mississippi State, scheduled for Saturday, Nov.
> 8, may be moved up to Thursday so the game can be broadcast nationally on
> ESPN.
> ESPN representatives have discussed the move with Mississippi State
> officials, according to MSU spokesman Mike Nemeth.
> "I think there is an interest," Nemeth said. "I don't know how far along
the
> talks have reached. I really believe (a decision) will happen in the next
> week."
> Both teams have a bye the previous weekend so it won't be a short week of
> preparation if the game is moved forward, as it appears it will be. It
would
> also give each team extra time to prepare for the following game. Alabama
> follows with a game at home against LSU on Nov. 15 and Mississippi State
> travels to Tennessee.
> The network attempted to move last season's game between the teams to
> Thursday night but UA Athletics Director Mal Moore declined the offer.
> State, however, has a history under coach Jackie Sherrill of playing some
of
> its home games on Thursdays.
> Ovcr the years, Alabama officials have balked at playing on Thursday
night,
> saying it was an inconvenience to their fans. Moore said last week that he
> had not discussed this year's game with ESPN or Mississippi State but
added
> that "everything is initiated with the home team."
> The Crimson Tide last played on a Thursday during the 2001 season. A
> September home game against Southern Mississippi was moved to Thursday,
Nov.
> 29, after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in New York canceled all SEC
games
> that weekend.
>
>
>
>
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[RollTideFan] Lowering the bar some more.....

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Perry
UA-MSU may play on a Thursday
07/09/03
Alabama's football game at Mississippi State, scheduled for Saturday, Nov.
8, may be moved up to Thursday so the game can be broadcast nationally on
ESPN.
ESPN representatives have discussed the move with Mississippi State
officials, according to MSU spokesman Mike Nemeth.
"I think there is an interest," Nemeth said. "I don't know how far along the
talks have reached. I really believe (a decision) will happen in the next
week."
Both teams have a bye the previous weekend so it won't be a short week of
preparation if the game is moved forward, as it appears it will be. It would
also give each team extra time to prepare for the following game. Alabama
follows with a game at home against LSU on Nov. 15 and Mississippi State
travels to Tennessee.
The network attempted to move last season's game between the teams to
Thursday night but UA Athletics Director Mal Moore declined the offer.
State, however, has a history under coach Jackie Sherrill of playing some of
its home games on Thursdays.
Ovcr the years, Alabama officials have balked at playing on Thursday night,
saying it was an inconvenience to their fans. Moore said last week that he
had not discussed this year's game with ESPN or Mississippi State but added
that "everything is initiated with the home team."
The Crimson Tide last played on a Thursday during the 2001 season. A
September home game against Southern Mississippi was moved to Thursday, Nov.
29, after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in New York canceled all SEC games
that weekend.




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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread Jenny H.
Can I hear a loud 'amen' on this?! Well, then, how about a VERY
LOUD ROLL TIDE RO!
Jenny

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:54 PM
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>
> --- Ricky Mc wrote:
> >
> > Just a little curious as to how folks on the list
> > are feeling about the
> > upcoming season.
>
>   I don't care if they go 13-0 or 0-13I don't care
> if they win by 1 or lose by 100For this season and
> the next two to three seasons my only expectations,
> are to see  a well coached, well disciplined, team
> that will give it their all from the opening kickoff
> until the clock runs out in the 4th qtrJamie
>
> =
> I'm Loud, Lazy, And Unorganized - BUT I'M FUN
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL

2003-07-09 Thread mike . laborde
> Any body gonna set up a prediction web page this year?
>
> ROLL TIDE!!
>
> kurt


I'll supply the web space on RTF or we can set up something on the message
board. That would probably be a good way to do it.





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