Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
From: kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mb11.theinsiders.com/fmississippistatefrm2.showMessage?topicID=74877.topic ITS A GLORIOUS DAY TO BE A DAWG...INSIDE INFO IS TELLING ME THAT THE DAWGS WILL GET A REDUCTION OF 10 SCHOLARSHIPS OVER 2 YEARS...THAT IS IT...IT'LL BE OFFICIAL TOMORROW... Ya got any inside poop? Nope, I had a bowel movement this morning. :-) Actually, I'd be surprised if they hammered Coach Croom. King Jackie has been dethroned and defrocked so there's nothing to be gained by slamming MSU at this point. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] MSU penalties, or lack thereof
From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lots of rumors circulating about the pending sanctions for MSU. Such as: * Penalties to be announced as early as today * Loss of scholarships anywhere from 6-10 over 2-year period * One year bowl ban (AS IF!) Isn't that kind of like making Wolfcrank sit in the corner? * Two year TV ban (Hey! I'm just reporting the gossip.) Doubtful. Even the King of Ineptitude, CMD, didn't earn a TV ban. What say you, Ron, brother of Condaleeza Rice? Cousin, dammit. Isn't punishing MSU at this point kind of like beating up the retarded kid? What would the NCAA prove? Personally, I hope MSU doesn't get hammered like we did. The sooner they can fsckin' KILL Ole Miss, the better! I be hearing that. Ban the Klan! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] MSU penalties, or lack thereof
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] MSU penalties, or lack thereof * Loss of scholarships anywhere from 6-10 over 2-year period * One year bowl ban (AS IF!) Isn't that kind of like making Wolfcrank sit in the corner? That's rubber-chicken funny, dude! * Two year TV ban (Hey! I'm just reporting the gossip.) Doubtful. Even the King of Ineptitude, CMD, didn't earn a TV ban. Plus, I thought the NCAA gave up that practice about 10 years ago. What say you, Ron, brother of Condaleeza Rice? Cousin, dammit. CLOSER KIN, DEEPER IN. Isn't punishing MSU at this point kind of like beating up the retarded kid? What would the NCAA prove? The same argument could have been made for BAMA. Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! Actually, I'd be surprised if they hammered Coach Croom. King Jackie has been dethroned and defrocked so there's nothing to be gained by slamming MSU at this point. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? 'Cause BAMA hadn't just hired the FIRST BLACK HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC (tm) ? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Practices and pics
Thank God there's little...make that ZERO chance... of a LOTR thread developing in this here chat-box. JrT - Original Message - From: Baker, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:08 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Practices and pics Frodo Baggins! Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
Exactly. Why would they have wanted to slam Fran? Lee -Original Message- From: Jeff Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:57 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! Actually, I'd be surprised if they hammered Coach Croom. King Jackie has been dethroned and defrocked so there's nothing to be gained by slamming MSU at this point. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? 'Cause BAMA hadn't just hired the FIRST BLACK HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC (tm) ? I thought I was the only racist in this chatrewm? Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
I'm is afraid yew is correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? 'Cause BAMA hadn't just hired the FIRST BLACK HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC (tm) ? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
Uh...javvy? -Original Message- From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 11, 2004 8:04 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? 'Cause BAMA hadn't just hired the FIRST BLACK HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC (tm) ? I thought I was the only racist in this chatrewm? Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
WHO? Slef E. - Original Message - From: Baker, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! Exactly. Why would they have wanted to slam Fran? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
And then there were THREE! Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! I'm is afraid yew is correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? 'Cause BAMA hadn't just hired the FIRST BLACK HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC (tm) ? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] MSU penalties, or lack thereof
Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] MSU penalties, or lack thereof * Loss of scholarships anywhere from 6-10 over 2-year period * One year bowl ban (AS IF!) Isn't that kind of like making Wolfcrank sit in the corner? That's rubber-chicken funny, dude! * Two year TV ban (Hey! I'm just reporting the gossip.) Doubtful. Even the King of Ineptitude, CMD, didn't earn a TV ban. Plus, I thought the NCAA gave up that practice about 10 years ago. What say you, Ron, brother of Condaleeza Rice? Cousin, dammit. CLOSER KIN, DEEPER IN. Isn't punishing MSU at this point kind of like beating up the retarded kid? What would the NCAA prove? The same argument could have been made for BAMA. Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
Are you kidding? The NCAA wet its pants at the chance to nail Bama - a formerly premier program in the sport. From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/08/11 Wed AM 08:57:02 EDT To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! Actually, I'd be surprised if they hammered Coach Croom. King Jackie has been dethroned and defrocked so there's nothing to be gained by slamming MSU at this point. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
I agree, but I *think* Jeff's point was that at boths places, the cast of characters is gone, and a new group is in. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:21 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics DiscussionList Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! Are you kidding? The NCAA wet its pants at the chance to nail Bama - a formerly premier program in the sport. From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/08/11 Wed AM 08:57:02 EDT To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! How is the MSU situation THAT much different from the BAMA fiasco? Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! Actually, I'd be surprised if they hammered Coach Croom. King Jackie has been dethroned and defrocked so there's nothing to be gained by slamming MSU at this point. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
You're starting to scare me. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Baker, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:25 AM Subject: RE: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! I agree, but I *think* Jeff's point was that at boths places, the cast of characters is gone, and a new group is in. Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice!
You're not the first person to say that Lee -Original Message- From: Jeff Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:02 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! You're starting to scare me. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Baker, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:25 AM Subject: RE: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice! I agree, but I *think* Jeff's point was that at boths places, the cast of characters is gone, and a new group is in. Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004
Phatass Phulmer is pretty damn close. RTR LC --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ewe've got to get off that fence, Krut. It's covered with barbed wire. Go ahead say it. Ewe'll feel better because of it. I promise. NOTHING NO ONE is worse than a fucking barner. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004 I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't say it. DONUT MAKE ME SAY IT! kurt From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/08/10 Tue PM 05:09:40 EDT To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004 I will give you credit for being able to give a STRAIGHT answer. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004 Hush or I'll scratch your eyes out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:10 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004 I've always node they's some barner blood in you, bitch. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004 Shut up in-breed. I'd pull for North Vietnam against the Vols!!! War Eagle Ro' damn Ti' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:34 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: [RollTideFan] October 2, 2004 arbrin plays at Tennessee. I gots to know: Who ya rootin' fer? I'll go first. GO VOLS! Roll Tide!! Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your
[RollTideFan] Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/9372537.htm?1c Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him JOHN McFARLAND Associated Press EL PASO, Texas - The view from Texas-El Paso coach Mike Price's office high above the Sun Bowl depends on perspective. The casual observer sees the site of some of the most pathetic football of the past three decades, an often deserted desert stadium overshadowed by scraggly hills. But Price sees untapped potential in a 51,500-seat stadium and scenic athletic complex wedged into the foothills of the Franklin Mountains. He sees an eager fan base in the historic city of 700,000 just across the Rio Grande from Mexico. And at 58, he sees perhaps a last shot at redemption after losing a $10 million job at Alabama following a night involving alcohol, strippers and few other confirmed details. I feel real lucky, said Price, a former national coach of the year who was hired in December. This has been a really humbling experience. When Price leads the Miners onto the field for the first time Sept. 2 at Arizona State, he'll officially join the small fraternity of coaches trying to make good after off-the-field embarrassments. George O'Leary begins anew at Central Florida, his first head coaching job since Notre Dame fired him in 2001 because of a trumped up resume. Gary Barnett is back in Colorado following a suspension for comments about women who accused players of rape. Price may have the toughest job of them all. He was 83-78 with five bowl appearances in 14 seasons at Washington State. At UTEP, he leads a program with just one winning season in the last 15. The Miners have just six wins in the past three years and lost eight times last season by 28 or more points. But Price gives UTEP fans hope. I've changed my mind on him, said Tony Stafford, an English professor and one of the few people on campus who raised concerns about hiring Price. Since he's gotten here, I've come to see the kind of person he is. He's a guy who made a terrible mistake, but I think he's sorry for it. Ticket sales are up, and optimism is back for the first time in years at a school that still clings to the memory of the 1966 NCAA basketball championship when it was still called Texas Western. There's a buzz that I haven't seen since I've been here, said UTEP president Diana Natalicio. Price brought similar excitement to Alabama last year. But he was fired after just four months, before coaching a game or signing his contract. Alabama's president cited drunken behavior after Price's highly publicized outing at a Florida strip joint in April 2003. Sports Illustrated reported that Price got drunk that night and had aggressive sex with strippers. Price's $20 million libel and slander lawsuit is pending against the publisher of the magazine, which stands behind its story. He admits drinking too much, returning to his hotel room with a woman, then passing out and waking up with all his clothes on. Nothing that was in the article happened, Price said. It was just a bunch of innuendos. That night there were poor decisions on my part, but nothing like what was reported. There was no sexual activity with women. Price's football future was in doubt a year ago. He was not a head coach last season for the first time in 23 years, and his prospects didn't look good. He was quickly and publicly rejected after seeking the Arizona job. But UTEP, about as far from the spotlight as a Division I-A team can be, was interested. Natalicio and athletic director Bob Stull liked Price but were cautious. They reviewed incident reports, called other schools and performed other due diligence Stull wouldn't specify. It's one of those life-changing experiences where you either learn from it or you'll make the same mistake again, and I felt confident he'd learn from it, Natalicio said. We got a coach of Mike Price's caliber, and he to get a chance to redeem himself. ... And so everybody won. Some Miners players said they didn't understand the fuss over Price's indiscretion. All that talk about him and his past didn't faze me one bit, and it shouldn't. It has nothing to do with football, receiver Chris Marrow said. Price says he feels reborn at UTEP, but realizes how far he fell. I went to the Rose Bowl (with WSU), stayed in a Beverly Hills suite as nice as you can get, took limos everywhere, he said. At Alabama, I had drivers and Lear jets. ... Then, coming here to El Paso, I drove a pickup truck with two dogs. So it's been a humbling experience to say the least. Even sharing the WAC title in 2000 didn't do much to lift UTEP's terrible tradition. It was just the school's third winning season since 1970. During that span, the Miners have won two or fewer games 21 times. The first step to fixing the losing mentality, Price said, is discipline. I can't make them taller. I can't make them a lot faster. But I can make them more disciplined, said Price, who
[RollTideFan] Gallion says Fulmer subpoena will be served
Gallion says Fulmer subpoena will be served Wednesday, August 04, 2004 MIKE PERRIN News staff writer Attorney Thomas Gallion says a setback in a jurisdictional ruling Monday in Tuscaloosa won't stop the less-than-civil war that's raging with Tennessee football coach Phillip Fulmer. Gallion said Tuesday that he has lawyers in the Volunteer State willing to seek a subpoena on Fulmer, compelling him to give a deposition in the Kenny Smith lawsuit. I've been on the phone all day and I've obtained one, maybe two, very good lawyers in Tennessee to take the Kenny Smith case, Gallion said. We're going to serve (Fulmer). We've found a way to serve him for his deposition, and we've got lawyers to re-file the case if our clients decide to move forward in Tennessee. Tuscaloosa County Circuit Court Judge Scott Donaldson dismissed the lawsuit filed by Smith, a former University of Tennessee football player and a one-time Alabama recruit, and his parents. Donaldson ruled that the Alabama courts do not have jurisdiction because the plaintiffs live in Tennessee and all but one of the defendants live outside Alabama. That includes Fulmer. Donaldson did not rule on the merits of the lawsuit. Smith, his father, Kenneth, and his mother, Vicki Smith Dagnan, have not yet decided whether to re-file the case in Tennessee. The defamation suit was spawned by Fulmer's statements, reported in NCAA documents, that Smith's mother had an extramarital affair with an Alabama assistant coach. Gallion again challenged Fulmer to tell the truth concerning his involvement in the NCAA investigation of Memphis prep standout Albert Means that led to the University of Alabama being placed on probation. Gallion is one of three attorneys of record in a $60 million lawsuit filed by fired assistant coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams against the NCAA. Cottrell and Williams were part of Mike DuBose's staff that was released following a 3-8 season in 2000. Fulmer is not a defendant in the Cottrell-Williams suit, but Gallion has been attempting to get his deposition in that case concerning information he gave to investigator Richard Johanningmeier, who is a defendant. There is some disagreement over what information Gallion could pursue in a deposition from Fulmer taken as part of the Smith lawsuit. Several lawyers said Fulmer could refuse to answer anything not directly related to the Smith lawsuit. But, Gallion said, if I get him under oath, he's history. I've got four boxes of documents on him - all the way from Linda Bensel-Meyers to Tee Martin to Jamie Naughright, the Montgomery attorney said, referring to individuals involved in recent complaints of athletic or academic improprieties at Tennessee. His deposition will take me two days, from sunup to sundown. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him
Party on Mikey!!! = Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M Laborde Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:28 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: [RollTideFan] Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/9372537.htm?1c Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him JOHN McFARLAND Associated Press snipped __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him
I'm betting he's embraced the hell out of those strip clubs down in JuarezJamie HELP KEEP AMERICA CLEAN FLUSH THE JOHNS - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/9372537.htm?1c Price embraces UTEP, puts Alabama scandal behind him JOHN McFARLAND Associated Press EL PASO, Texas - The view from Texas-El Paso coach Mike Price's office high above the Sun Bowl depends on perspective. The casual observer sees the site of some of the most pathetic football of the past three decades, an often deserted desert stadium overshadowed by scraggly hills. But Price sees untapped potential in a 51,500-seat stadium and scenic athletic complex wedged into the foothills of the Franklin Mountains. He sees an eager fan base in the historic city of 700,000 just across the Rio Grande from Mexico. And at 58, he sees perhaps a last shot at redemption after losing a $10 million job at Alabama following a night involving alcohol, strippers and few other confirmed details. I feel real lucky, said Price, a former national coach of the year who was hired in December. This has been a really humbling experience. When Price leads the Miners onto the field for the first time Sept. 2 at Arizona State, he'll officially join the small fraternity of coaches trying to make good after off-the-field embarrassments. George O'Leary begins anew at Central Florida, his first head coaching job since Notre Dame fired him in 2001 because of a trumped up resume. Gary Barnett is back in Colorado following a suspension for comments about women who accused players of rape. Price may have the toughest job of them all. He was 83-78 with five bowl appearances in 14 seasons at Washington State. At UTEP, he leads a program with just one winning season in the last 15. The Miners have just six wins in the past three years and lost eight times last season by 28 or more points. But Price gives UTEP fans hope. I've changed my mind on him, said Tony Stafford, an English professor and one of the few people on campus who raised concerns about hiring Price. Since he's gotten here, I've come to see the kind of person he is. He's a guy who made a terrible mistake, but I think he's sorry for it. Ticket sales are up, and optimism is back for the first time in years at a school that still clings to the memory of the 1966 NCAA basketball championship when it was still called Texas Western. There's a buzz that I haven't seen since I've been here, said UTEP president Diana Natalicio. Price brought similar excitement to Alabama last year. But he was fired after just four months, before coaching a game or signing his contract. Alabama's president cited drunken behavior after Price's highly publicized outing at a Florida strip joint in April 2003. Sports Illustrated reported that Price got drunk that night and had aggressive sex with strippers. Price's $20 million libel and slander lawsuit is pending against the publisher of the magazine, which stands behind its story. He admits drinking too much, returning to his hotel room with a woman, then passing out and waking up with all his clothes on. Nothing that was in the article happened, Price said. It was just a bunch of innuendos. That night there were poor decisions on my part, but nothing like what was reported. There was no sexual activity with women. Price's football future was in doubt a year ago. He was not a head coach last season for the first time in 23 years, and his prospects didn't look good. He was quickly and publicly rejected after seeking the Arizona job. But UTEP, about as far from the spotlight as a Division I-A team can be, was interested. Natalicio and athletic director Bob Stull liked Price but were cautious. They reviewed incident reports, called other schools and performed other due diligence Stull wouldn't specify. It's one of those life-changing experiences where you either learn from it or you'll make the same mistake again, and I felt confident he'd learn from it, Natalicio said. We got a coach of Mike Price's caliber, and he to get a chance to redeem himself. ... And so everybody won. Some Miners players said they didn't understand the fuss over Price's indiscretion. All that talk about him and his past didn't faze me one bit, and it shouldn't. It has nothing to do with football, receiver Chris Marrow said. Price says he feels reborn at UTEP, but realizes how far he fell. I went to the Rose Bowl (with WSU), stayed in a Beverly Hills suite as nice as you can get, took limos everywhere, he said. At Alabama, I had drivers and Lear jets. ... Then, coming here to El Paso, I drove a pickup truck with two dogs. So it's been a humbling experience to say the least. Even
[RollTideFan] Comings and goings of Iron Bowl coaches
I NEED BAMA FOOTBALL NOW!!! --- http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/college_sports/article/0,1651,TCP_1055_3103326,00.html Comings and goings of Iron Bowl coaches By SCOTT ADAMSON August 11, 2004 When Alabama's Mike DuBose era came to an unceremonious end against Auburn in 2000, it left the coach with a 2-2 career record against the Auburn Tigers - losing both his inaugural and final contests against the Tigers. Dennis Franchione was victorious in his first uncivil war and lost the last. Tommy Tuberville's first Iron Bowl was a 28-17 loss, and since then the Tiger boss is 3-2 in the battle for braggin' rights. For some reason - don't know whether it's the cough syrup or just boredom - I started thinking about how coaches have fared in their first and last Iron Bowls. Mike Shula, of course, started off with a 28-23 setback, but a coach coming up short in both his debut and farewell Alabama-Auburn showdowns is nothing unusual. History shows that coaches about to leave - or be fired - are 2-11 in their last Alabama-Auburn game. As for those making their debuts in the series, Auburn coaches sport a 6-6-1 mark in their initial contests against their arch rivals, while Bama bosses are 4-10. Six of the last seven head coaches at the Capstone came away losers in their first encounter with Auburn (I'm not including Mike Price and his 0-0 record), while the same number of AU coaches are 1-4 in their debuts. Since July is here and pining for college football has officially begun, let's relive some famous Iron Bowl comings and goings, shall we? Terry Bowden's final Iron Bowl came in 1997, and a bungled call by the Tide - one that led to a fumble - allowed the Tigers to kick a late field goal and escape with an 18-17 victory at Jordan-Hare Stadium. AU finished the season 10-3 and played for the SEC crown, so there was no reason to think Bowden wouldn't be back in 1998 to try and up his record to 4-2 against Bama. However Bowden and company started off the following season 1-5, and the coach quit prior to the Tigers' game with Louisiana Tech. Bill Oliver took over from there, and his one and only Iron Bowl as head coach ended with a 31-17 loss at Legion Field. Gene Stallings announced his retirement after Alabama's 24-23 victory over Auburn in 1996, helping the tall Texan exit the series a winner. While prowling the sidelines for seven Alabama-Auburn tilts, Stallings finished with a 5-2 worksheet against his school's biggest rival, including a 16-7 win in his first season in 1990. Pat Dye's last Iron Bowl came in 1992. Not only were the Tigers in the midst of a .500 season, the cloud of an NCAA investigation hovered over the program. But all that paled in comparison to the opposition. Alabama was undefeated going into the game, won it 17-0, and went on to claim the school's 12th national championship with a 34-13 rout of Miami in the Sugar Bowl. For his career Dye was 6-6 against Alabama, including a four-year winning streak from 1986 through 1989. Following form, he was a loser in both his first and last Alabama-Auburn contests. Another odd farewell came in 1989, when Bill Curry brought his undefeated and No. 2-ranked Tide to Jordan-Hare Stadium for the first time in history. Alabama had already wrapped up a share of the SEC crown, and a win would set up a title showdown with Miami in the Sugar Bowl. But the Tigers used their talents - and stadium - to full advantage, overcoming a halftime deficit and going on to log an historic 30-20 win over Bama. Curry, who was winless against AU while at Alabama and Georgia Tech, decided to leave Tuscaloosa at the end of the year and accept a job at Kentucky. While guiding the Wildcats, he still never beat the Tigers. Ray Perkins opted to leave Alabama to accept a big money offer from the NFL's Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1986. His final season in Tuscaloosa was a solid 10-3 campaign, but Auburn was able to pull out a 21-17 win over the Tide to give Perkins a 2-2 mark in the Iron Bowl - and yes, he lost the first and last ones he coached. Paul Bear Bryant capped off his historic career with a 23-22 loss to Auburn, but in 25 years at Tuscaloosa he got the better of his rival, winning 19 of 25 games, including nine straight from 1973 to 1981. Bryant's last Iron Bowl loss happened to be Dye's first Iron Bowl win, and Bryant came up short in his first one, 14-8 in 1958. Doug Barfield's brief head coaching career at AU left him winless in the series, and his final loss was a 34-18 setback to the Tide. Ralph Shug Jordan's career-ending battle with Bryant came in 1975, with Alabama taking a 28-0 victory. In a half-century on The Plains, Jordan was 9-16 in the Iron Bowl and 0-1 in his 1951 debut. J. B. Ears Whitworth had the lowest winning percentage of any Alabama coach, and wound up 0-3 against Auburn. His 40-0 loss in 1957 was his last, and
[RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD!
The tape's good enuff. Donut worry about the DVD. kurt (thanky) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD!
The tape's good enuff. Donut worry about the DVD. kurt (thanky) What tape __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD!
Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 8:06:52 PM, you wrote: JW What tape The pr0n tape of her and her hubbly. Want one? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Croom Signs Contract
Croom downplayed any significance to the fact that he had been on the job eight months without the security of a signed contract. http://mississippistate.theinsiders.com/2/282685.html Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] State Still Awaiting NCAA Report
The biggest background buzz at MSU's preseason football press conference wasn't players and gameplans. It was a report, aired Tuesday night on local television stations, that the NCAA infractions committee had sent Mississippi State a final ruling on sanctions from the two-year investigation into Bulldog football. http://mississippistate.theinsiders.com/2/282687.html Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD!
Well, after watching the DVD, it doesn't really appear to be much better. All are bootleg copies I guess. - Original Message - From: kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rtf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:27 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD! The tape's good enuff. Donut worry about the DVD. kurt (thanky) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD!
Javvy on shit list #1. - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:27 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Pat Smoot RLABOSD! Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 8:06:52 PM, you wrote: JW What tape The pr0n tape of her and her hubbly. Want one? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] [Non-Bama] Do you suffer from Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome?
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4923133.html Too much anti-Bush hysteria It can leave others suffering from a classic case of overkill James Lileks August 12, 2004 Do you suffer from Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome? It's easy to diagnose. It often strikes at a bookstore. You walk in looking for a breezy summer read, and piled near the door are stacks and stacks of angry tomes about the perfidy of Usurper Bush. He's a tool of big oil, small minds. He's a scarily devout Jesus-freak Christian and the dupe of Saudi Wahhabist puppetmasters. He led the country to war on bizarre and fabricated assumptions -- sure, Clinton made Iraqi regime change standard American policy, but that was just a scarecrow to stick in the field. Plus, George W. Bush is Satan! Just look at the cover of Jim Hightower's book, where the author draws devil horns and scribbles a mustache and goatee on a Bush poster. Bush isn't just wrong. He's bad. Super-extra evil. Get it? Get it? Oh, and buy this book. You decline the opportunity. You wander over to periodicals and flip open the current Esquire. There's a story on stem-cell research. The author's subtitle: How the president is trying to kill my daughter. Yes, of course, you think. (How weary your inner voice sounds.) That's precisely what he is trying to do. That is the president's specific objective in life: Kill sick people. It makes him happy. Every night he puts his cloven hooves up on the desk and thinks of the people he's offed today. Ahh. Life is good. You put the magazine away. The bookstore almost feels like enemy territory, or perhaps the embassy of some neutral but vaguely brackish nation. Do you belong? You don't hate Bush. You may not love him, but your marrow doesn't bubble at the thought of his name. Do you feel somewhat estranged when you enter a bookstore? Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome. Of course, not everyone hates Bush. One can understand why Southerners like him, since they're all two-toothed crackers with gun racks and Klan sheets neatly folded in the trunk in case they drive by a good ol'-fashioned flaming cross. Right? It's harder to understand why putatively normal people like him. These creatures are frankly incomprehensible to any right-thinking person. Maybe they're just so full of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh they don't understand that their drinking water is now composed entirely of arsenic, or that we have completely squandered the goodwill of several hundred chain-smoking French intellectuals. But ponder for a moment those who neither love Bush nor loathe him. Consider how that stack of anti-Bush books looks to them, how tired they feel when Will Smith pops up in the German press insisting that Bush lied. How weary they feel when Bruce Springsteen -- the Boss! -- joins a musical caravan to cross the nation and warn against the looming horror of another Bush term. Gee, Bruce can both sing and strum a guitar. He must know something I don't. It's hard to tell how SBHFS will affect the vote. This group could go either way. They could so weary of the incessant hysteria that they'll be willing to reward the frothers, if only to shut them up. If I vote for John Kerry, will you be happy? Will that do it? The answer would be Yes! That'll do it! Well, that, and nationalized health care, tax hikes on small businesses, the Kyoto treaty, fealty to the United Nations, shipping nuclear fuel to the Iranians to make them act nice, leaving Iraq ASAP and ushering in what Kerry calls a more sensitive war on terrorism. (We will use marshmallow bullets, perhaps.) All that plus vast federally funded embryo farms, and they'll be happy. For a while. Then we'll have to do something about that In God We Trust nonsense on the coins. On the other hand, SBHFS sufferers might hope that a vote for Bush would cap the geyser for good. His foes have said all they can say; could they possibly hate him any more? Of course they could. If Bush takes out Iranian nuclear bomb facilities before the election, it'll be good for another 50 books. Now do you see how evil he is? First Iraq, then Iran -- good Lord, is no one safe? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] [Non-Bama] Do you suffer from Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome?
FORE MOWER YEERS! Slef E. - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] [Non-Bama] Do you suffer from Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome? http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4923133.html Too much anti-Bush hysteria It can leave others suffering from a classic case of overkill James Lileks August 12, 2004 Do you suffer from Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re[2]: [RollTideFan] [Non-Bama] Do you suffer from Sudden Bush Hatred Fatigue Syndrome?
Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 9:28:51 PM, you wrote: JT FORE MOWER YEERS! Sing it from the mountaintop brother Slef! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Hey Coach
What time is "Hey Coach" on this season? Is it the same time it has been on? I thought I saw on Yahoo it was going to be on from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. Central time. Or was that a mistake by Yahoo's part? ROLL TIDE ROLL! Dee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
