Re: [rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
Hey Fantix, nice job ! By the way, if you really have time to spare...MQTT would also be a nice to have library...for the embeddable sensor domain guys. A bit about it here: http://clockwerx.blogspot.com/2014/06/whats-mqtt-and-how-can-you-use-it.html -- -Thad +ThadGuidry https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry Thad on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/ ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
[rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
Hi, Here is zmq.rs, a native implementation of ØMQ in the Rust programming language in MPLv2. I've just got a very ugly prototype running till now, and I'm expecting to hear more comments on anything. https://github.com/zeromq/zmq.rs For who wants to know more about ØMQ, it looks like an embeddable networking library but acts like a concurrency framework. It gives you sockets that carry atomic messages across various transports like in-process, inter-process, TCP, and multicast. You can connect sockets N-to-N with patterns like fan-out, pub-sub, task distribution, and request-reply. (according to http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all) Back to the project, I did a few iterations and got what it is now, in the hope that more discussion can be raised over some actual code to talk about. zmq.rs currently has REQ and REP, can `send` and `recv` in ZMTP 2.0. I also blogged a bit about the design here (more to come): http://blog.segmentfault.com/fantix/119000593564 You are more than welcome to: * comment on the design * suggest different solution * complain about whatever you don't like * open issues on github * send me PRs and code reviews * join me developing and maintaining it * or even star it on github ;) BR, Fantix -- http://about.me/fantix ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
Complaining about something I don't like: Due to the choice of MPLv2, this won't be usable in the wider Rust ecosystem, which is MIT/ASL2 focused. In particular, section 3.2(a) requires that any distribution in Executable Form carry a notice about how to acquire the source code of zmq.rs. This is not unworkable, but it is something we have avoided so far in the community. Otherwise, I look forward to reviewing this in more depth tomorrow. Nice work! On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Fantix King fantix.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is zmq.rs, a native implementation of ØMQ in the Rust programming language in MPLv2. I've just got a very ugly prototype running till now, and I'm expecting to hear more comments on anything. https://github.com/zeromq/zmq.rs For who wants to know more about ØMQ, it looks like an embeddable networking library but acts like a concurrency framework. It gives you sockets that carry atomic messages across various transports like in-process, inter-process, TCP, and multicast. You can connect sockets N-to-N with patterns like fan-out, pub-sub, task distribution, and request-reply. (according to http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all) Back to the project, I did a few iterations and got what it is now, in the hope that more discussion can be raised over some actual code to talk about. zmq.rs currently has REQ and REP, can `send` and `recv` in ZMTP 2.0. I also blogged a bit about the design here (more to come): http://blog.segmentfault.com/fantix/119000593564 You are more than welcome to: * comment on the design * suggest different solution * complain about whatever you don't like * open issues on github * send me PRs and code reviews * join me developing and maintaining it * or even star it on github ;) BR, Fantix -- http://about.me/fantix ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev -- http://octayn.net/ ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
Thank you, Corey! Honestly I didn't dig deep about licensing. It was MIT which I think is the most open one as BSD. Then http://zeromq.org/docs:organization suggested MPLv2 - something between BSD and GPL just sounded also not bad for me, so I didn't pay much attention changing to MPLv2. I wouldn't mind changing back to MIT if that works better for the community :) BR, Fantix -- http://about.me/fantix On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Corey Richardson co...@octayn.net wrote: Complaining about something I don't like: Due to the choice of MPLv2, this won't be usable in the wider Rust ecosystem, which is MIT/ASL2 focused. In particular, section 3.2(a) requires that any distribution in Executable Form carry a notice about how to acquire the source code of zmq.rs. This is not unworkable, but it is something we have avoided so far in the community. Otherwise, I look forward to reviewing this in more depth tomorrow. Nice work! On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Fantix King fantix.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is zmq.rs, a native implementation of ØMQ in the Rust programming language in MPLv2. I've just got a very ugly prototype running till now, and I'm expecting to hear more comments on anything. https://github.com/zeromq/zmq.rs For who wants to know more about ØMQ, it looks like an embeddable networking library but acts like a concurrency framework. It gives you sockets that carry atomic messages across various transports like in-process, inter-process, TCP, and multicast. You can connect sockets N-to-N with patterns like fan-out, pub-sub, task distribution, and request-reply. (according to http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all) Back to the project, I did a few iterations and got what it is now, in the hope that more discussion can be raised over some actual code to talk about. zmq.rs currently has REQ and REP, can `send` and `recv` in ZMTP 2.0. I also blogged a bit about the design here (more to come): http://blog.segmentfault.com/fantix/119000593564 You are more than welcome to: * comment on the design * suggest different solution * complain about whatever you don't like * open issues on github * send me PRs and code reviews * join me developing and maintaining it * or even star it on github ;) BR, Fantix -- http://about.me/fantix ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev -- http://octayn.net/ ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
This is awesome! I look forward to deprecating https://github.com/erickt/rust-zmq. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Fantix King fantix.k...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Corey! Honestly I didn't dig deep about licensing. It was MIT which I think is the most open one as BSD. Then http://zeromq.org/docs:organization suggested MPLv2 - something between BSD and GPL just sounded also not bad for me, so I didn't pay much attention changing to MPLv2. I wouldn't mind changing back to MIT if that works better for the community :) BR, Fantix -- http://about.me/fantix On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Corey Richardson co...@octayn.net wrote: Complaining about something I don't like: Due to the choice of MPLv2, this won't be usable in the wider Rust ecosystem, which is MIT/ASL2 focused. In particular, section 3.2(a) requires that any distribution in Executable Form carry a notice about how to acquire the source code of zmq.rs. This is not unworkable, but it is something we have avoided so far in the community. Otherwise, I look forward to reviewing this in more depth tomorrow. Nice work! On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Fantix King fantix.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is zmq.rs, a native implementation of ØMQ in the Rust programming language in MPLv2. I've just got a very ugly prototype running till now, and I'm expecting to hear more comments on anything. https://github.com/zeromq/zmq.rs For who wants to know more about ØMQ, it looks like an embeddable networking library but acts like a concurrency framework. It gives you sockets that carry atomic messages across various transports like in-process, inter-process, TCP, and multicast. You can connect sockets N-to-N with patterns like fan-out, pub-sub, task distribution, and request-reply. (according to http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all) Back to the project, I did a few iterations and got what it is now, in the hope that more discussion can be raised over some actual code to talk about. zmq.rs currently has REQ and REP, can `send` and `recv` in ZMTP 2.0. I also blogged a bit about the design here (more to come): http://blog.segmentfault.com/fantix/119000593564 You are more than welcome to: * comment on the design * suggest different solution * complain about whatever you don't like * open issues on github * send me PRs and code reviews * join me developing and maintaining it * or even star it on github ;) BR, Fantix -- http://about.me/fantix ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev -- http://octayn.net/ ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
On 07/02/2014 03:16 AM, Corey Richardson wrote: Complaining about something I don't like: Due to the choice of MPLv2, this won't be usable in the wider Rust ecosystem, which is MIT/ASL2 focused. In particular, section 3.2(a) requires that any distribution in Executable Form carry a notice about how to acquire the source code of zmq.rs. This is not unworkable, but it is something we have avoided so far in the community. I should note that this is not a universally held opinion in the Rust community. While it is true that many/most current Rust projects mimic the license of `rustc` itself, there's nothing in Rust as a language that precludes or encourages the use of any particular license. The mentioned 'avoidance' is likely a consequence of the people just preferring those licenses (i.e. they'd use them for their non-Rust projects as well) rather than Rust being against the spirit of attribution, share-alike, copyleft etc per se. Personally, I would encourage Free Rust software just like I would encourage it in any other language. You shouldn't feel like you need to compromise on your moral principles (or whatever else you consult when choosing a license) to contribute to Rust's success. -SL ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] [ANN] zmq.rs - native stack of ØMQ in Rus
See also the discussion on IRC: https://botbot.me/mozilla/rust/2014-07-02/?msg=17359232page=22 It wasn't my intention to discourage using any particular license, but to raise its requirements if they weren't consciously chosen. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:33 PM, SiegeLordEx slab...@aim.com wrote: On 07/02/2014 03:16 AM, Corey Richardson wrote: Complaining about something I don't like: Due to the choice of MPLv2, this won't be usable in the wider Rust ecosystem, which is MIT/ASL2 focused. In particular, section 3.2(a) requires that any distribution in Executable Form carry a notice about how to acquire the source code of zmq.rs. This is not unworkable, but it is something we have avoided so far in the community. I should note that this is not a universally held opinion in the Rust community. While it is true that many/most current Rust projects mimic the license of `rustc` itself, there's nothing in Rust as a language that precludes or encourages the use of any particular license. The mentioned 'avoidance' is likely a consequence of the people just preferring those licenses (i.e. they'd use them for their non-Rust projects as well) rather than Rust being against the spirit of attribution, share-alike, copyleft etc per se. Personally, I would encourage Free Rust software just like I would encourage it in any other language. You shouldn't feel like you need to compromise on your moral principles (or whatever else you consult when choosing a license) to contribute to Rust's success. -SL ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev -- http://octayn.net/ ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
