[sage-devel] the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks,

Two pieces of good news today:

* The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year
period of intense scrutiny.

* The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the algorithm.

The news release is at

http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/sha-100212.cfm

The specification and design of Keccak is at

http://keccak.noekeon.org/Keccak-reference-3.0.pdf

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Re: [sage-devel] the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-10-03 09:07, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Two pieces of good news today:
> 
> * The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year
> period of intense scrutiny.
> 
> * The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the 
> algorithm.
...and again, just like AES, the competition was won by a team of
(mostly?) Belgians!

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Re: [sage-devel] the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread Charles Bouillaguet

On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:

> On 2012-10-03 09:07, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Two pieces of good news today:
>> 
>> * The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year
>> period of intense scrutiny.
>> 
>> * The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the 
>> algorithm.
> ...and again, just like AES, the competition was won by a team of
> (mostly?) Belgians!

Including one of the designers of the AES, (probably) the most widely used 
secret-key encryption scheme.

Charles

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[sage-devel] Modular forms membership testing bug

2012-10-03 Thread David Loeffler
I just hit this bug in the wild while doing some modular forms computations:

masiao@fermat:~$ sage
--
| Sage Version 5.3, Release Date: 2012-09-08 |
| Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.|
| Type "help()" for help.|
--
sage: M = ModularForms(Gamma0(17), 4)
sage: v = M.q_expansion_basis(prec=10)[0]
sage: v in M
False

Oddly "M(v)" works if v corresponds to a q-expansion of a form in M, and 
raises an error if it doesn't -- as it should do -- so there is something 
going wrong in the code for __contains__. Does anyone know what might be 
causing this?

David

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[sage-devel] Cartan matrix for a relabelled Cartan type?

2012-10-03 Thread Jesús TC
Hi all,

When relabelling a Cartan type:

sage: A3 = CartanType("A3")
sage: A3r = A3.relabel({1:2,2:3,3:1})

one loses the cartan_matrix method, which is not implemented in 
[...]/combinat/root_system/type_relabel.py.

It would be trivial to create it: just calling the cartan_matrix method of the 
CartanType parent and reordering columns and rows according to the relabelling.

May I open a ticket in trac?

Cheers,
Jesus TC

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[sage-devel] combinat is not responding...

2012-10-03 Thread Florent Hivert
  Hi there,

The combinat machine seems to ping but doesn't answer neither to the web, nor
to ssh. Can a local guy investigate and maybe relaunch it ?

Thanks,

Florent

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Re: [sage-devel] Cartan matrix for a relabelled Cartan type?

2012-10-03 Thread Florent Hivert
  Hi,

> When relabelling a Cartan type:
> 
> sage: A3 = CartanType("A3")
> sage: A3r = A3.relabel({1:2,2:3,3:1})
> 
> one loses the cartan_matrix method, which is not implemented in 
> [...]/combinat/root_system/type_relabel.py.
> 
> It would be trivial to create it: just calling the cartan_matrix method of 
> the CartanType parent and reordering columns and rows according to the 
> relabelling.
> 
> May I open a ticket in trac?

I'm forwarding this to sage-combinat-devel, where most root system related
discussions take place.

Cheers,

Florent

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[sage-devel] Re: combinat is not responding...

2012-10-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
see
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sagemath-users/9gOocpRm4KE/discussion


On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:15:47 UTC+8, fhivert wrote:
>
>  Hi there, 
>
> The combinat machine seems to ping but doesn't answer neither to the web, 
> nor 
> to ssh. Can a local guy investigate and maybe relaunch it ? 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Florent 
>

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Re: [sage-devel] Cartan matrix for a relabelled Cartan type?

2012-10-03 Thread JesusTorrado
Hi,

On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:15:46 PM UTC+2, fhivert wrote:

> I'm forwarding this to sage-combinat-devel, where most root system related 
> discussions take place. 
>

Thanks! I will follow it there, then

Cheers,
JesusTorrado

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Re: [sage-devel] Cartan matrix for a relabelled Cartan type?

2012-10-03 Thread JesusTorrado
Hi there,

I am the author of the original question, freshly joined the group.

Cheers,
Jesús

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[sage-devel] Re: the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread kcrisman


On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:07:48 AM UTC-4, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>
> Hi folks, 
>
> Two pieces of good news today: 
>
> * The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year 
> period of intense scrutiny. 
>
> * The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the 
> algorithm. 
>
>
Nice!  Thanks for the update.  PolyBoRi makes a very large appearance as 
well.

Not so nice:
"The inverse of 1 + x + x4z can be computed with a variant of the extended 
Euclidian algorithm for polynomials in multiple variables. At the time of 
writing this was unfortunately not supported by SAGE."

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[sage-devel] Gource video

2012-10-03 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi

I am trying to create a new gource video.

>From http://zomobo.net/www.sagemath.org :
The Sage library mercurial repository activity around 2010 * Every file is
a dot, colored by file type * Directories are branches of the tree *
www.sagemath.org Music from the album C-Sections by Matheatre * http * CC
BY-NC-SA 3.0. Visualized by gource * code.google.com ./gource \ --logo
Sage-200x200-transparent.png \ --auto-skip-seconds 0.001 --max-files 0 \
--seconds-per-day 0.002 \ --hide filenames,mouse,progress \
--start-position 0.9 --stop-position 0.98 \ --time-scale 2 \ --camera-mode
track \ -1920x1080 \ --font-size 30 \ --output-framerate 30 \ --date-format
"%d %B %Y" \ sage-4.6.2/devel/sage/ \ -o - | ffmpeg -y -b 3000K -r 30 -f
image2pipe -vcodec ppm -i - \ -vcodec libx264 -vpre placebo -threads 0
video.mp4

On Ubuntu that gives (removing the logo and using the ubuntu packaged
gource)


0 jan@muizenberg:/srv/sysadm/sage/sage-5.3$gource \ --auto-skip-seconds
0.001 --max-files 0 \ --seconds-per-day 0.002 \ --hide
filenames,mouse,progress \ --start-position 0.9 --stop-position 0.98 \
--time-scale 2 \ --camera-mode track \ -1920x1080 \ --font-size 30 \
--output-framerate 30 \ --date-format "%d %B %Y" \ sage-4.6.2/devel/sage/ \
-o - | ffmpeg -y -b 3000K -r 30 -f image2pipe -vcodec ppm -i - \ -vcodec
libx264 -vpre placebo -threads 0 video.mp4
gource: log-format required when reading from STDIN
Try 'gource --help' for more information.

ffmpeg version 0.8.3-4:0.8.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the
Libav developers
  built on Jun 12 2012 16:52:09 with gcc 4.6.3
*** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a
future release. Please use avconv instead.
[image2pipe @ 0x1af0c40] Could not find codec parameters (Video: ppm)
[image2pipe @ 0x1af0c40] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be
inaccurate
pipe:: could not find codec parameters
1 jan@muizenberg:/srv/sysadm/sage/sage-5.3$

Apparantly that is a codec x264 problem, so I removed that, then had to add
--log-format, and played aroudn until I get this:

0 jan@muizenberg:/srv/sysadm/sage$gource \ --auto-skip-seconds 0.001
--max-files 0 \ --seconds-per-day 0.002 \ --hide filenames,mouse,progress \
--start-position 0.9 --stop-position 0.98 \ --time-scale 2 \ --camera-mode
track \ -1920x1080 \ --font-size 30 \ --output-framerate 30 \ --date-format
"%d %B %Y" \ sage-5.3/devel/sage-main/ --log-format hg \ -o -

gource: unsupported log format (you may need to regenerate your log file)
Try 'gource --help' for more information.

1 jan@muizenberg:/srv/sysadm/sage$


Any idea?

Regards,
Jan




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Re: [sage-devel] the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Minh Nguyen  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Two pieces of good news today:
>
> * The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year
> period of intense scrutiny.
>
> * The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the 
> algorithm.
>
> The news release is at
>
> http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/sha-100212.cfm
>
> The specification and design of Keccak is at
>
> http://keccak.noekeon.org/Keccak-reference-3.0.pdf

This is very nice, but I will be more impressed if someone uses Sage
to break it :-)

Fredrik

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[sage-devel] Re: the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread Jason Grout

On 10/3/12 2:07 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:

Hi folks,

Two pieces of good news today:

* The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year
period of intense scrutiny.

* The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the algorithm.

The news release is at

http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/sha-100212.cfm

The specification and design of Keccak is at

http://keccak.noekeon.org/Keccak-reference-3.0.pdf



Cool!  In particular, see section 4.2.2 of the pdf above.  Apparently 
they use various things in Sage, including PolyBoRi.  They set up a Sage 
server version 1.4 (remember the algorithm was submitted in 2007, IIRC) 
and automated tests through the server.


Thanks,

Jason


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[sage-devel] Re: the new SHA-3 candidate Keccak uses Sage during its design

2012-10-03 Thread Jason Grout

On 10/3/12 7:24 AM, kcrisman wrote:



On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:07:48 AM UTC-4, Minh Nguyen wrote:

Hi folks,

Two pieces of good news today:

* The new SHA-3 candidate has been announced following a five-year
period of intense scrutiny.

* The winner is Keccak, whose authors used Sage in the design of the
algorithm.


Nice!  Thanks for the update.  PolyBoRi makes a very large appearance as
well.

Not so nice:
"The inverse of 1 + x + x4z can be computed with a variant of the
extended Euclidian algorithm for polynomials in multiple variables. At
the time of writing this was unfortunately not supported by SAGE."



The document was written on January 14, 2011 (at least, version 3 was 
written then; who knows when that sentence was written).  Do we support 
it now?


Thanks,

Jason



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Re: [sage-devel] combinat is not responding...

2012-10-03 Thread William Stein
On Wednesday, October 3, 2012, Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
> see
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sagemath-users/9gOocpRm4KE/discussion

My current hypothesis is that Ubuntu automatic security updates (or
something else stupid) somehow activated some sort of overly aggressive
firewall rules, since I ran into the same problem on four other servers I
have running ubuntu with automatic security updates (I ink).  Anyway, the
machines are now way too secure!I'll find out soon enough though (I
should have this fixed in about two hours).

If you are good at using Dell iDrac remote management with Linux, please
email me...


>
> On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:15:47 UTC+8, fhivert wrote:
>>
>>  Hi there,
>>
>> The combinat machine seems to ping but doesn't answer neither to the
web, nor
>> to ssh. Can a local guy investigate and maybe relaunch it ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Florent
>
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[sage-devel] MPIR-2.5.2 released

2012-10-03 Thread Bill Hart
Hi all,

MPIR version 2.5.2 has been released!

This fixes the by now infamous redc_2 build issue. It also adds
support for a few additional CPUs and slightly better support of
internal macros used by MPFR-3.1.0.

We are also about to release an alpha version of MPIR 2.6.0 which
contains a completely new FFT implementation for fast operations with
very large integers. It will also provide more flexibility when
working with ui/si functions  (longs are not necessarily the same size
as intmax_t on Windows). Although we believe the new FFT is pretty
well-tested by this stage, we felt it important to have a nice stable
version of MPIR in the meantime (2.5.2) in case there are any
unexpected issues with the major release 2.6.0.

MPIR 2.6.0 will be announced separately when it is ready, though if
you have an unusual system on which you plan to run MPIR, we'd love to
hear from you on our mpir-devel Google group to help with
tuning/testing of the new major release.

Best Wishes,

The MPIR Team.

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Re: [sage-devel] combinat is not responding...

2012-10-03 Thread William Stein
Hi,

combinat.math.washington.edu is now fixed.  For some mysterious
reasons the ufw firewall was active, with evidently *no* rules, and it
was blocking most everything.   I don't know 100% for certain why this
happened; however, I've just done:

  apt-get remove unattended-upgrades ufw

so it is unlikely to happen again.

Note that there was no downtime or interruption of anybody's jobs, and
this was not caused by over-use. (This is the only problem we have
ever had so far with combinat, by the way!)

root@combinat:/home/wstein# uptime
 08:55:45 up 18 days, 12:58,  4 users,  load average: 37.00, 37.01, 37.07

I will be scheduling some (about 2 minutes -- just the time to reboot
once) of downtime for combinat, since I have to reset the UPS it is
connected to, in order to debug a UPS battery issue.   That will
probably be in about a week, and there will be an announcement.

William

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:52 AM, William Stein  wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2012, Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
>> see
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sagemath-users/9gOocpRm4KE/discussion
>
> My current hypothesis is that Ubuntu automatic security updates (or
> something else stupid) somehow activated some sort of overly aggressive
> firewall rules, since I ran into the same problem on four other servers I
> have running ubuntu with automatic security updates (I ink).  Anyway, the
> machines are now way too secure!I'll find out soon enough though (I
> should have this fixed in about two hours).
>
> If you are good at using Dell iDrac remote management with Linux, please
> email me...
>
>
>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:15:47 UTC+8, fhivert wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi there,
>>>
>>> The combinat machine seems to ping but doesn't answer neither to the web,
>>> nor
>>> to ssh. Can a local guy investigate and maybe relaunch it ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Florent
>>
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[sage-devel] Improve the autotools spkg (#13557) needs review

2012-10-03 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
I have made a lot of fixes to my autotools spkg, essentially improving
it from a "proof of concept" to a "real" spkg.  For this reason, I would
like to move the package from experimental to optional.

The main change is that the package now ships an auto-generated Makefile
to build the various different versions of autotools, with correct
dependencies (e.g. autoconf-2.62 depends on automake-1.10).  This made
the packaging process a lot more involved, but the spkg-install is much
simplified (it essentially just executes make).

I added Texinfo to the package, since that's a prerequisite and it's
also often used for bootstrapping packages, so it fits with the theme.

There are also a lot of small fixes to make the package more portable,
it no longer requires GNU-specific tools.  Indeed, it now builds on all
buildbot systems that I tried (sage, rosemary, iras, bsd, moufang, mark,
hawk).

Please review this *optional* package:
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13557

Thanks,
Jeroen.

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Re: [sage-devel] combinat is not responding...

2012-10-03 Thread Florent Hivert
  Hi,

> combinat.math.washington.edu is now fixed.  For some mysterious
> reasons the ufw firewall was active, with evidently *no* rules, and it
> was blocking most everything.   I don't know 100% for certain why this
> happened; however, I've just done:
> 
>   apt-get remove unattended-upgrades ufw
> 
> so it is unlikely to happen again.

Thanks !!!

> Note that there was no downtime or interruption of anybody's jobs, and
> this was not caused by over-use. (This is the only problem we have
> ever had so far with combinat, by the way!)

A few weeks ago, due to a huge memory leak in a code running in parallel on 32
core, I had my computation killed due to a failed memory alloc. combinat was
not very responsive for a couple of minutes but I had the impression that
except my computations nothing suffered from it. As a consequence I didn't
mention it. Does someone know if it is possible to know if there were some
other consequences ?

Cheers,

Florent

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Re: [sage-devel] combinat is not responding...

2012-10-03 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Florent Hivert  wrote:
>   Hi,
>
>> combinat.math.washington.edu is now fixed.  For some mysterious
>> reasons the ufw firewall was active, with evidently *no* rules, and it
>> was blocking most everything.   I don't know 100% for certain why this
>> happened; however, I've just done:
>>
>>   apt-get remove unattended-upgrades ufw
>>
>> so it is unlikely to happen again.
>
> Thanks !!!
>
>> Note that there was no downtime or interruption of anybody's jobs, and
>> this was not caused by over-use. (This is the only problem we have
>> ever had so far with combinat, by the way!)
>
> A few weeks ago, due to a huge memory leak in a code running in parallel on 32
> core, I had my computation killed due to a failed memory alloc. combinat was
> not very responsive for a couple of minutes but I had the impression that
> except my computations nothing suffered from it. As a consequence I didn't
> mention it. Does someone know if it is possible to know if there were some
> other consequences ?

I wouldn't worry about it at all.

 -- William

>
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>
> Florent
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[sage-devel] Re: Update NTL spkg build system

2012-10-03 Thread kcrisman


>  
>
>> And reports from XP would be really nice as I only test on 7. (I have an 
>> old 32 bits laptop with an XP installation but the screen is broken)
>>
>
> I'll definitely try to find a time over the next week to do this, if I 
> didn't destroy that one with an earlier attempt. 
>

It's currently running (compiling lapack) and I updated the Trac wiki to 
that effect.  I note that this is all without Volker's update to Atlas 
where we remove the lapack and blas spkgs, so that could muck things up a 
bit... Also, Cygwin has lapack, and we install lapack-dev etc, so I'm not 
quite sure what the story is there.  But I'll just let it run for now, 
expect to have to apply a patch when I hit #13325's problem.

- kcrisman 

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[sage-devel] Re: Update NTL spkg build system

2012-10-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori


On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:25:14 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote:
>
>
>  
>>
>>> And reports from XP would be really nice as I only test on 7. (I have an 
>>> old 32 bits laptop with an XP installation but the screen is broken)
>>>
>>
>> I'll definitely try to find a time over the next week to do this, if I 
>> didn't destroy that one with an earlier attempt. 
>>
>
> It's currently running (compiling lapack) and I updated the Trac wiki to 
> that effect.  I note that this is all without Volker's update to Atlas 
> where we remove the lapack and blas spkgs, so that could muck things up a 
> bit... Also, Cygwin has lapack, and we install lapack-dev etc, so I'm not 
> quite sure what the story is there.  But I'll just let it run for now, 
> expect to have to apply a patch when I hit #13325's problem.
>
Be sure to install PARI from #1 before building eclib, otherwise you'll 
link to the static version of pari and that wont be functional (no real 
reason not to be functional as far as i understand, but that seems to be 
the case). 

>
> - kcrisman 
>

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[sage-devel] Trac Server - Reset Password

2012-10-03 Thread Raniere Gaia Silva

Hi,
sorry for post in this list if it is inappropriate.
I try to reset my password by using 
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/reset_password but the new password that 
I got don't work.
Can some one help me? My username is r.gaia.cs

Thanks,
Raniere

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[sage-devel] Re: Trac Server - Reset Password

2012-10-03 Thread Maarten Derickx
This should be posted to the sage-trac-account mailinglist, but I see you 
already did that.

Le jeudi 4 octobre 2012 01:06:00 UTC+2, Raniere Gaia Silva a écrit :
>
>
> Hi,
> sorry for post in this list if it is inappropriate.
> I try to reset my password by using 
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/reset_password but the new password 
> that I got don't work.
> Can some one help me? My username is r.gaia.cs
>
> Thanks,
> Raniere
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Modular forms membership testing bug

2012-10-03 Thread Maarten Derickx
The reason is that q_expansion_basis returns power series and not modular 
forms:

sage: M = ModularForms(Gamma0(17), 4)
sage: M.basis()[0].parent()
Modular Forms space of dimension 6 for Congruence Subgroup Gamma0(17) of 
weight 4 over Rational Field
sage: M.basis()[0] in M
True
sage: M.q_expansion_basis()[0].parent()
Power Series Ring in q over Rational Field

Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 11:20:06 UTC+2, David Loeffler a écrit :
>
> I just hit this bug in the wild while doing some modular forms 
> computations:
>
> masiao@fermat:~$ sage
> --
> | Sage Version 5.3, Release Date: 2012-09-08 |
> | Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.|
> | Type "help()" for help.|
> --
> sage: M = ModularForms(Gamma0(17), 4)
> sage: v = M.q_expansion_basis(prec=10)[0]
> sage: v in M
> False
>
> Oddly "M(v)" works if v corresponds to a q-expansion of a form in M, and 
> raises an error if it doesn't -- as it should do -- so there is something 
> going wrong in the code for __contains__. Does anyone know what might be 
> causing this?
>
> David
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Update NTL spkg build system

2012-10-03 Thread kcrisman

>
>
>> It's currently running (compiling lapack) and I updated the Trac wiki to 
>> that effect.  I note that this is all without Volker's update to Atlas 
>> where we remove the lapack and blas spkgs, so that could muck things up a 
>> bit... Also, Cygwin has lapack, and we install lapack-dev etc, so I'm not 
>> quite sure what the story is there.  But I'll just let it run for now, 
>> expect to have to apply a patch when I hit #13325's problem.
>>
> Be sure to install PARI from #1 before building eclib, otherwise 
> you'll link to the static version of pari and that wont be functional (no 
> real reason not to be functional as far as i understand, but that seems to 
> be the case). 
>
>>
>>
Yes, that was on  your list.

I did a quick check on it earlier, and it failed at cvxopt - I'll post the 
error message tomorrow.  

Should we continue this conversation in a new thread, or on sage-windows?

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