Re: Back on the net...

1998-10-19 Thread PersonaHQ
Nice to have someone with a BRAIN back on the mailing list.
Welcome back COLIN.
Message to DAVID, talk to LEN, he has done what you want to do.

M.D.L.M


Re: Back on the net...

1998-10-19 Thread Paul Walker
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice to have someone with a BRAIN back on the mailing list.

Put those claws away. ;)




test

1998-10-19 Thread Paul Walker
'scuse me, just one quick test.



Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread David
Paul Walker wrote:
 
 'scuse me, just one quick test.

And here's another


Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Paul Walker
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David wrote:

  'scuse me, just one quick test.
 And here's another

Didn't work, unfortunately. :/ Every other list I'm on gets filtered into
the right place by procmail, except sam-users. God knows why.




Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread Simon Cooke


 I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub 
 myself with bacon-grease. Yourself?
 
 I just do the bacon-grease bit...
 
 Simon

You always told me you preferred the chocolate mousse sob I feel so
betrayed

Well, I wasn't going to tell them about *that* was I? In a public forum? 
Where everyone knows what we've been doing with our desserts?

Simon



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Well?

1998-10-19 Thread Andrew Collier
So is somebody going to tell us all what hapenned at the show
yesterday, or what?

Who actually ended up being able to go?

Andrew

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Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread Maria Rookyard

 From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Maria Rookyard wrote:
  
   From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub
   myself with bacon-grease. Yourself?
  
   I just do the bacon-grease bit...
  
   Simon
  
  You always told me you preferred the chocolate mousse sob
  I feel so betrayed
  
  Maria.
 
 I definately preffer the mousse to that cup of tea I had that time ;)

Remind me again about the details on that one Dave, I think I must've
managed to blank most of it out ;-)  (although I do remember that it was
Martin's doing not mine)

And Simon, do you remember the lemon meringue, or the bread and butter
pudding? And how about the 4 sugars in your peas? (That one was Martin's
idea too)

Maria.
x

(c) 1998 Food  Drink Discussion Group 
;-)








Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread David
Maria Rookyard wrote:
 
  From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Maria Rookyard wrote:
  
From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub
myself with bacon-grease. Yourself?
   
I just do the bacon-grease bit...
   
Simon
  
   You always told me you preferred the chocolate mousse sob
   I feel so betrayed
  
   Maria.
 
  I definately preffer the mousse to that cup of tea I had that time ;)
 
 Remind me again about the details on that one Dave, I think I must've
 managed to blank most of it out ;-)  (although I do remember that it was
 Martin's doing not mine)
 
The one with the alcohol addition ;)


Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread Maria Rookyard

 From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub 
  myself with bacon-grease. Yourself?
  
  I just do the bacon-grease bit...
  
  Simon
 
 You always told me you preferred the chocolate mousse sob I feel so
 betrayed
 
 Well, I wasn't going to tell them about *that* was I? In a public forum? 
 Where everyone knows what we've been doing with our desserts?
 
 Simon

Ah, but they don't know whether or not it was our *just* desserts, do they?
;-)

And does this mean that you're ashamed of our mousse or something?

Maria.


(c) 1998 The Beware Of Desserts In A Cup Company






RE: a

1998-10-19 Thread Dan Doore
 And does this mean that you're ashamed of our mousse or something?

My sister was bitten by a mousse once.

No really, mousse bites can be very painful.



What's the news from the show then?

Dan.

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Shirk: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread Lee Willis
Graham Goring [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Not being a big fan of bacon grease, I just use it to taunt and rile
 people. (And moan at people with fsck-off big signatures. Hint.)
 
 Mine ain't exactly her-ruge. It's 8 lines and a newline.

Well it's twice as big as it's 'supposed to be' ...

Lee.
-- 
Drink 'til she's cute, but do yourself a favour ..
Stop before the wedding!



Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Lee Willis
Paul Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David wrote:
 
 Didn't work, unfortunately. :/ Every other list I'm on gets filtered into
 the right place by procmail, except sam-users. God knows why.

Well OK, I realise that this is just asking for another mousse type
debate but what's your recipe ?

Lee.
-- 
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...  
For some reason my mom insists on calling it Playing with blocks


Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread Ian Collier
What an informative subject line.

On  Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:42:31 +0100, Maria Rookyard said:
 And does this mean that you're ashamed of our mousse or something?

Are you ashamed of your catte and dogg as well?

 (c) 1998 The Beware Of Desserts In A Cup Company

You forgot This posting may not be copied except in a reply posted
to this list, blah blah etc.

imc


Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Paul Walker
On 19 Oct 1998, Lee Willis wrote:

 Well OK, I realise that this is just asking for another mousse type
 debate but what's your recipe ?

Apologies for non-unix people...

===
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log
VERBOSE=on
LOGABSTRACT=all

# Back it all up (doesn't work?!)
:O c
backup

# Mailing list section
# this doesn't work either :/
:O:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sam-users

:O:
* ^From.fsf-list
fsf-list

:O:
* ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
monkeyjunkies

# Rudimentary junkmail filtering
:O: B
* !^FROM_DAEMON
* make money fast
* million email addresses
* ^From.webpromote
junk
==



Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Ian Collier
On  Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:30 +0100 (BST), Paul Walker said:
 # Back it all up (doesn't work?!)
 :O c
 backup
 
 # Mailing list section
 # this doesn't work either :/
 :O:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sam-users

[snip]

OK, first question... why are you writing :O instead of :0?

The subsidiary question is what character you expect to be matched by
the dot, except for a space.

imc


Mouse Mania !!

1998-10-19 Thread Edwin Blink
Anybody wants to connect a PC mouse to the SAM ??
 
Its now possible. And very easy too. 
 
All you need is the COMMs interface (with the RS232 part).
And solder a single wire at the connector to make them work (with a 
special driver) .
If you have a Microsoft Ballpoint Mouse you even don't have to solder the 
wire . (Plug and Play ???)

I already wrote some drivers for it and it just works great.
After all those years I can finally play Batz'n Ballz with A mouse.

To be continued ...

Edwin Blink.


Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Lee Willis
Ian Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 OnMon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:30 +0100 (BST), Paul Walker said:
  # Back it all up (doesn't work?!)
  :O c
  backup
  
  # Mailing list section
  # this doesn't work either :/
  :O:
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  sam-users
 
 [snip]
 
 OK, first question... why are you writing :O instead of :0?

Yep, problem numero uno ...

 The subsidiary question is what character you expect to be matched by
 the dot, except for a space.

I'd guess that he just expects one space to be there, I'd recommend
something along the lines of

^From.*owner-sam-users

which should cover it pretty well, at least it works for me in my .gnus
which filters in pretty much the same way as procmail (Well sort-of)

Lee.
-- 
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...  
For some reason my mom insists on calling it Playing with blocks


Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Paul Walker
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Ian Collier wrote:

 OK, first question... why are you writing :O instead of :0?

Can't remember. Still seems to work, though.

 The subsidiary question is what character you expect to be matched by
 the dot, except for a space.

Just a space.



Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Paul Walker
On 19 Oct 1998, Lee Willis wrote:

  OK, first question... why are you writing :O instead of :0?
 Yep, problem numero uno ...

I was confused by the fact that all the other lists filtered okay, and
they had a :O there as well. Changed it now and it's working, so.. :)

 I'd guess that he just expects one space to be there, I'd recommend
 something along the lines of
 ^From.*owner-sam-users

I'll bear it in mind, but the majordomo s/w at nvg.ntnu.no only seems to
put one space in there, so...



Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Lee Willis
Paul Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Ian Collier wrote:
 
  OK, first question... why are you writing :O instead of :0?
 
 Can't remember. Still seems to work, though.

Erm I thought you said it didn't ...

Lee.
-- 
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...  
For some reason my mom insists on calling it Playing with blocks


Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Ian Collier
On  Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:44:12 +0100 (BST), Paul Walker said:
 On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Ian Collier wrote:
  OK, first question... why are you writing :O instead of :0?

 Can't remember. Still seems to work, though.

I thought you started this thread precisely because it doesn't work...

imc


Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread Ian Collier
On  19 Oct 1998 14:47:57 +0100, Lee Willis said:
 I'd guess that he just expects one space to be there, I'd recommend
 something along the lines of
 
 ^From.*owner-sam-users
 
 which should cover it pretty well

But there's only one From line which ever contains owner-sam-users and
that's the envelope From line.  Also there is only one other kind of From
line and that's the From: line.  Generality is all very well but in this
case you don't need it.

imc


Re: Sam show?

1998-10-19 Thread Kevin Cooper
Hello Simon,

 Perhaps it was Simon Cooke.
 Or possibly Ian Slavin. Apart from the glasses, we both had a very 
 similar line in hair and leather jackets.

Ah yeah, that's him.  I couldn't remember the name but now you've mentioned
it I recall always wondering whether it was pronouned Slay-Vin or Slavvin.

g

Kev.


Re: Sam show?

1998-10-19 Thread Kevin Cooper
Hi Ian,

 I do not recall ever going to an All Formats fair in Haydock...
 Perhaps it was Simon Cooke.

No, his name was Ian.  :)  H, who else is there called Ian on the Sam?
He did some programming, I think.

Kev.


Re: Sam show?

1998-10-19 Thread Lee Willis
Kevin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Ian,
 
  I do not recall ever going to an All Formats fair in Haydock...
  Perhaps it was Simon Cooke.
 
 No, his name was Ian.  :)  H, who else is there called Ian on the Sam?
 He did some programming, I think.

Ian Slavin?  (Or am I just making that up ...)

Lee.
-- 
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...  
For some reason my mom insists on calling it Playing with blocks


Regexps [Offtopic]

1998-10-19 Thread Lee Willis
Ian Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On19 Oct 1998 14:47:57 +0100, Lee Willis said:
 
  ^From.*owner-sam-users
 
 But there's only one From line which ever contains owner-sam-users and
 that's the envelope From line.

Yep, agreed, I hadn't actually intended matching the other one (Which I
realise this _does ...) the .* is intended to catch multiple spaces or
perhaps if owner-sam-users ever decides to give itself a _real_
name. Not likely I know but with some of lists I'm on I find it's safer ..

 Generality is all very well but in this case you don't need it.

True, but you never know ... Admittedly this will match if someone
changes their name to owner-sam-users but if they're that silly then
they deserve to be in (potentially) the wrong folder ...

Lee.
-- 
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...  
For some reason my mom insists on calling it Playing with blocks


Re: Well?

1998-10-19 Thread Graham Goring
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew Collier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
So is somebody going to tell us all what hapenned at the show
yesterday, or what?

Who actually ended up being able to go?

James Curry and about 4 other people, from what I hear...

Graham Goring

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RE: Mouse Mania !!

1998-10-19 Thread Dan Doore
 Anybody wants to connect a PC mouse to the SAM ??

I think so!

 All you need is the COMMs interface (with the RS232 part).
 And solder a single wire at the connector to make them work (with a
 special driver) .
 If you have a Microsoft Ballpoint Mouse you even don't have
 to solder the wire . (Plug and Play ???)

Question time:

Does the Comms IF need the 'modification' that has been mentioned every   
so often (Speaking of which - what is it? [1])

Will this work with normal PS/2 type mice as well?  If so then would it   
be easy to make a 9-pin - PS/2 converter with said extra wire?

A few questions about the driver:

1. Is it a just replacement for the 'mdriver' mouse driver, or will it   
work with any mouse applications
2. Does the driver support mouse speed/acceleration?

This coupled with the PC Keyboard I/F would make moving my Sam into a PC   
case a lot more attractive.

Speaking of which, I remember seeing a bloke at the (now one before) last   
show - he had his mounted in a mini-tower.

How many things are left for a complete metamorphosis?

Dan.

[1] No mentions of 'White Holes' now... :-)  



Re: Mouse Mania !!

1998-10-19 Thread Andrew Gale
 Will this work with normal PS/2 type mice as well?  If so then would it   
 be easy to make a 9-pin - PS/2 converter with said extra wire?

Nope - the RS232 mice run off +12v and -12v (well, 12ish..) but
the PS/2 mice run of +5v, 0v. Also, the PS/2 mouse communicates
synchronously (whereas RS232 is asynchronous)

 1. Is it a just replacement for the 'mdriver' mouse driver, or will it   
 work with any mouse applications

Any application which uses the driver that came on the disc with the
SAMCo mouse interface should work. Any software that reads the hardware
directly (by doing 8 reads in quick succession), won't work.
I actually made a device once that made a PC mouse hardware compatible
on the SAM -- but it used quite a few chips. I think I could cut that
down to just three or four chips, if there's enough interest - and 
it would be cheaper than the SAM Mouse to build, too (much smaller 
PCB - could easily be soldered internally).

Things like FLASH and SAMPaint should be fine, I'd guess


 This coupled with the PC Keyboard I/F would make moving my Sam into a PC   
 case a lot more attractive.


I dunno if anyone is actually interested in having one, but I've now
designed (on paper) the pcb for my PC keyboard interface - I've just
got to put it into EASY-PC now. It's a quite small pcb, and it fits
between the 256K expansion and the right-hand disc drive - being attached
by one of the screws that hold the trapdoor in place, and one sticky
pad. It should need twenty or so solder points - but not very fiddly
ones.

 Speaking of which, I remember seeing a bloke at the (now one before) last   
 show - he had his mounted in a mini-tower.
 
 How many things are left for a complete metamorphosis?


I think mounting the disc drives could be a bit of a bugger - it
might be possible to use a PC disc dirve lead, but I think a new
small pcb to hold the VL1772 might be necessay. Also, since the
SAM drives are slimline, how easily would they mount, and how
good would they look, in a PC drive bay?


Andy



(Fwd) simon cooke

1998-10-19 Thread dave hooper
maybe simon cooke can't read my emails.

si - if you receive this, email me. i'll reply, and send my saa stuff 
for win32 simcoupe.


anyone else - if si cooke DOESN'T receive this, tell him that i'm 
trying to send him my stuff


dave


Re: (Fwd) simon cooke

1998-10-19 Thread dave hooper
 dave


dunno why that happenned. i didn't send it. sorry.

the real
dave