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Gavin Smith wrote: > And interestingly, in relation to an earlier email of mine, > it's written in SAM C - cool. Do you have the source? Can > we have it? :) Did you do a later version that the one on > Fred 60? OK here's that later version of proType (from 1999): http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.laundon/ProType_1999.zip Trying to find the source I came across several copies. Now I need to work out which is the correct one! I've got them all out of SimCoupe into text files, now for some comparing... Dave.
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Gavin Smith wrote: > Like it craps out on you if you decide not > to load or save a file etc. Speaking of which, it seems to look > for a .p extension when loading files - can this be got round? > Still, assuming it does indeed save plain text, that's my text > editor of choice now :) Oh, I don't remember the "crapping out" :-) The saving/loading is done from BASIC, so yes, it can be got round. It is plain text, other than the first four bytes, IIRC. Again, could probably be got around I think. > And interestingly, in relation to an earlier email of mine, it's > written in SAM C - cool. Do you have the source? Can we have it? > :) Did you do a later version that the one on Fred 60? Mmm, yes. I'm sure I can find the source somewhere. Not sure if I want to though - it's pretty horrendous, and I knew nothing about C at the time! There is a later version - I shall have a root around tomorrow (today). One of the improvements IIRC is that the up and down cursor keys are a bit better at, um, going up and down! Glad you like it anyway :-) Dave. > *goes to get ice cream* > Gavin
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- Original Message - From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Preferred plain text editor > ZDE16 - kept up with my typing at about 90 WPM (ok - this was a few years > ago - i'm a tad faster these days) - this managed to cope with the 50K-ish > Entropy newsletter :) > I'm sure this would be a fairly simple task to conver to SAM natively ... after all, CPM uses very few system calls for its behind-the-scenes stuff
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> Gavin Smith wrote: > > > Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. > > Lean and neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > > > > Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? (120wpm...) > > > > Gavin > > May I humbly suggest "ProType" from Fred 60? It's crap in some (most) ways, > but I'm certain it should be able to keep up with your typing :-) I have it here on the SAM beside me and it does indeed pretty much keep up with my typing - it's missing a few things though as you probably know :) Like it craps out on you if you decide not to load or save a file etc. Speaking of which, it seems to look for a .p extension when loading files - can this be got round? Still, assuming it does indeed save plain text, that's my text editor of choice now :) And interestingly, in relation to an earlier email of mine, it's written in SAM C - cool. Do you have the source? Can we have it? :) Did you do a later version that the one on Fred 60? *goes to get ice cream* Gavin
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:56:33AM +, Me wrote: > I believe I made a Sam version of my speccy editor FSE (which is a > "Sam version" in the same way that the "Sam version" of Elite is, > I'm afraid, and so has a maximum text size of about 25K). Now I've found the disk, I remember it was on Syncytium. imc
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Gavin Smith wrote: > Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. > Lean and neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > > Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? (120wpm...) > > Gavin May I humbly suggest "ProType" from Fred 60? It's crap in some (most) ways, but I'm certain it should be able to keep up with your typing :-) Dave.
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Hmmm... I never used them, I prefer PCW DTP Program (Spectrum via SAM). I am not sure, but is poking the Keyboard repeat vars a solution to become faster? Wo Tobermory schrieb: > I remember these being painfully slow, both of them. I 'only' type > at 45-50 wpm and they both missed loads of letter out. > > Wolfgang Haller said: > > Hideho Gavin. > > > > Don´t fall in tears! Have a look at Fred issue 8, there is a > > "Notepad" by Dan Brice. A better "Notepad" by Calvin Allett can > > be found on Fred 36. > > A so called "painful rudymentary wordprocessor" is on Fred 5, > > called "Processor" and comes from McDonald/McConell. > > > > So have a try. > > Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > Gavin Smith schrieb: > > > >> Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. > >> Lean and neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > >> > >> Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? > >> (120wpm...) > >> > >> Gavin > > --- > http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in > http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out > ---
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I remember these being painfully slow, both of them. I 'only' type at 45-50 wpm and they both missed loads of letter out. Wolfgang Haller said: > Hideho Gavin. > > Don´t fall in tears! Have a look at Fred issue 8, there is a > "Notepad" by Dan Brice. A better "Notepad" by Calvin Allett can > be found on Fred 36. > A so called "painful rudymentary wordprocessor" is on Fred 5, > called "Processor" and comes from McDonald/McConell. > > So have a try. > Wolfgang > > > > > Gavin Smith schrieb: > >> Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. >> Lean and neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) >> >> Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? >> (120wpm...) >> >> Gavin --- http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out ---
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Hideho Gavin. Don´t fall in tears! Have a look at Fred issue 8, there is a "Notepad" by Dan Brice. A better "Notepad" by Calvin Allett can be found on Fred 36. A so called "painful rudymentary wordprocessor" is on Fred 5, called "Processor" and comes from McDonald/McConell. So have a try. Wolfgang Gavin Smith schrieb: > Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. Lean and > neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > > Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? (120wpm...) > > Gavin
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Gavin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh! :( Sheesh, I can't believe we haven't a decent little SAM > text editor! There must be something... Cookie, did you ever finish yours off? Geoff This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:48:11AM +, Gavin Smith wrote: > Dan Dooré wrote: > > > > ZDE16 - kept up with my typing at about 90 WPM > > > Cool - is this freely available anywhere? > > When David mentioned it I knew it rung a bell - it's a CPM based editor > > that I used a few times when playing with ProDos. > Oh! :( Sheesh, I can't believe we haven't a decent little SAM text editor! > There must be something... I believe I made a Sam version of my speccy editor FSE (which is a "Sam version" in the same way that the "Sam version" of Elite is, I'm afraid, and so has a maximum text size of about 25K). Andrew might remember this, as I'm bound to forget to search my house for the disk. imc
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Dan Dooré wrote: > > > ZDE16 - kept up with my typing at about 90 WPM > > > > Cool - is this freely available anywhere? > > When David mentioned it I knew it rung a bell - it's a CPM based editor > that I used a few times when playing with ProDos. Oh! :( Sheesh, I can't believe we haven't a decent little SAM text editor! There must be something... Gavin
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> > ZDE16 - kept up with my typing at about 90 WPM > > Cool - is this freely available anywhere? When David mentioned it I knew it rung a bell - it's a CPM based editor that I used a few times when playing with ProDos. Check out http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~jacobn/cpm/cpmfiles.html - there's even some Sam utilities mentioned. I had a quick squizz on Google but I couldn't find any z80 source for it. Dan. -- Dan Dooré Technical Specialist - LAN Direct Line Group Services Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. All are members of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you should notify us immediately and delete it. You should not copy, print, distribute, disclose or use any part of it. We reserve the right to monitor and record all electronic communications through our networks. We cannot accept any liability for viruses transmitted via this e-mail once it has left our networks.
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David Ledbury wrote: > ZDE16 - kept up with my typing at about 90 WPM (ok - this was a few years > ago - i'm a tad faster these days) - this managed to cope with the 50K-ish > Entropy newsletter :) Cool - is this freely available anywhere? Gavin
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No, your right. Sorry. Greets! Ben P.S. DON'T LOOK AT THE DISCLAIMER! IT'S OUT OF MY CONTROL!!! ;) -Oorspronkelijk bericht-Van: Frans van Egmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Verzonden: maandag 10 maart 2003 20:48Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.noOnderwerp: Re: Preferred plain text editorHi, Benjamin,your disclaimer is o.k. for me but many in the group may have trouble reading Dutch ;-)You may want to put it down there in English too, just to make sure no-one breaches any claims set forth therein :-)Ofcourse, I realise this may be something out of your control... Still you could paste one underneath every mail you send to the group - or you could just ignore me because I'm rambling on about nothing... Disclaimer: De inhoud van dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk of persoonlijk zijn en is alleen bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent, mag u onder geen enkel beding het bericht openbaar maken of op enigerlei wijze verspreiden of vermenigvuldigen. Indien u dit bericht onbedoeld ontvangen heeft, wilt u dan dit bericht aan de afzender retourneren en het van uw computer(s) verwijderen. Essent N.V. sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending van informatie. Aan de inhoud van deze e-mail en eventuele bijlagen kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend, tenzij schriftelijk uitdrukkelijk anders is overeengekomen.
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- Original Message - From: "Gavin Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: Preferred plain text editor > Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. Lean and neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > > Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? (120wpm...) > > Gavin ZDE16 - kept up with my typing at about 90 WPM (ok - this was a few years ago - i'm a tad faster these days) - this managed to cope with the 50K-ish Entropy newsletter :)
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Hi, Benjamin, your disclaimer is o.k. for me but many in the group may have trouble reading Dutch ;-) You may want to put it down there in English too, just to make sure no-one breaches any claims set forth therein :-) Ofcourse, I realise this may be something out of your control... Still you could paste one underneath every mail you send to the group - or you could just ignore me because I'm rambling on about nothing... Frans Versteeg, Benjamin wrote: If I could get a Sam :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Gavin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: maandag 10 maart 2003 14:46 Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Onderwerp: Re: Preferred plain text editor I used to use either Driver Notepad or PCG wordmaster (Speccy port) for my text needs, although looking back neither were ideal but at least they had the ability to insert text whilst typing... Driver Notepad was nice but slowed down horribly after a while. I rather liked Driver, I wish more had come of it... There was always a lack of a good editor Anyone fancy a little project? :) Disclaimer: De inhoud van dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk of persoonlijk zijn en is alleen bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent, mag u onder geen enkel beding het bericht openbaar maken of op enigerlei wijze verspreiden of vermenigvuldigen. Indien u dit bericht onbedoeld ontvangen heeft, wilt u dan dit bericht aan de afzender retourneren en het van uw computer(s) verwijderen. Essent N.V. sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending van informatie. Aan de inhoud van deze e-mail en eventuele bijlagen kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend, tenzij schriftelijk uitdrukkelijk anders is overeengekomen.
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If I could get a Sam :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Gavin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 10 maart 2003 14:46 Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Onderwerp: Re: Preferred plain text editor > I used to use either Driver Notepad or PCG wordmaster (Speccy port) for my > text needs, although looking back neither were ideal but at least they had > the ability to insert text whilst typing... Driver Notepad was nice but slowed down horribly after a while. I rather liked Driver, I wish more had come of it... > There was always a lack of a good editor Anyone fancy a little project? :) Disclaimer: De inhoud van dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk of persoonlijk zijn en is alleen bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent, mag u onder geen enkel beding het bericht openbaar maken of op enigerlei wijze verspreiden of vermenigvuldigen. Indien u dit bericht onbedoeld ontvangen heeft, wilt u dan dit bericht aan de afzender retourneren en het van uw computer(s) verwijderen. Essent N.V. sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending van informatie. Aan de inhoud van deze e-mail en eventuele bijlagen kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend, tenzij schriftelijk uitdrukkelijk anders is overeengekomen.
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> I used to use either Driver Notepad or PCG wordmaster (Speccy port) for my > text needs, although looking back neither were ideal but at least they had > the ability to insert text whilst typing... Driver Notepad was nice but slowed down horribly after a while. I rather liked Driver, I wish more had come of it... > There was always a lack of a good editor Anyone fancy a little project? :)
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> Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. Lean and > neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) I used to use either Driver Notepad or PCG wordmaster (Speccy port) for my text needs, although looking back neither were ideal but at least they had the ability to insert text whilst typing... > Is there one out there? Will it keep up with my typing? (120wpm...) There was always a lack of a good editor - was the there one in Comet that wasn't half bad? Dan. Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. All are members of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you should notify us immediately and delete it. You should not copy, print, distribute, disclose or use any part of it. We reserve the right to monitor and record all electronic communications through our networks. We cannot accept any liability for viruses transmitted via this e-mail once it has left our networks.
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> > > Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. Lean and > > > neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > > > > Hey... vi *is* nice to use > > No no no! Let's not go there! (Pico is better...) DON'T GO THERE I SAID! ;) > I agree - let's not go there (pile o' poo that pico is) - I'll not suggest 'e' then... if you want a non vi editor, use emacs or X emacs if you're that way inclined. Glad we didn't go there :) Phew G -- _ _ _a' /( <. # Gaz Wilson, aka DragonLord /_/ _ _/ / ` / _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ /_'/_/ /_, / /_||/|/ \(,_(,)' # Info: http://www.dragons.org.uk Catch me with the Dragons. ._>, _>, # Chat: http://www.redclaw.org.uk/
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> > Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. Lean and > > neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) > > Hey... vi *is* nice to use No no no! Let's not go there! (Pico is better...) DON'T GO THERE I SAID! ;)
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> Simple question - I need a decent plain text editor on the SAM. Lean and > neat, but nice to use (i.e. not vi ;) Hey... vi *is* nice to use -- _ _ _a' /( <. # Gaz Wilson, aka DragonLord /_/ _ _/ / ` / _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ /_'/_/ /_, / /_||/|/ \(,_(,)' # Info: http://www.dragons.org.uk Catch me with the Dragons. ._>, _>, # Chat: http://www.redclaw.org.uk/
