Re: [Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-31 Thread Thomas Werner
hi jeremy,
my problem is, i made it on a production environment with over 100
workstations on our 3 campus and i have not a test environment. i
can make it only during a nightshift, our user are evil, thankless and
m$ fans ;)))
if you need this information/log output for help and to avoid m$ here,
i can check it on weekend. you need backup? :))
cheers tom
On Mar 31, 2005, at 0:59 Uhr, Jeremy Allison wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:55:56AM +0200, Thomas Werner wrote:
no, it doesnt work :( i tested it with:
samba-3.0.11-acl (still broken, fails after some try's to save an 
excel
file)
samba-3.0.13-acl (still broken, same behavior )
samba-3.0.13-noacl (seems to work)

always the same violation error thing in excel with acl's and 
filetimes
param.
I need to see the ACL on the file plus the debug level 10 log of the
failure.
Thanks,
Jeremy.

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Re: [Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-30 Thread Thomas Werner
no, it doesnt work :( i tested it with:
samba-3.0.11-acl (still broken, fails after some try's to save an excel 
file)
samba-3.0.13-acl (still broken, same behavior )
samba-3.0.13-noacl (seems to work)

always the same violation error thing in excel with acl's and filetimes 
param.

cheers tom
On Mar 29, 2005, at 20:36 Uhr, Jeremy Allison wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 07:45:53AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote:
No confirmation over here, havn't had a chance to compile a new copy -
rolled back to 3.0.8 for the time being it's been less buggy but 
still have
occasional file(s) locking up.

A little unclear here, do I need to add a patch to 3.0.13 before 
compiling,
or simply add 'dos filetime = yes' to the configuration?

Lastly, does it matter if I'm not using ACL's? Just using plain old 
UNIX
permissions (750/660 dir/file) and the force-group parameter for most
shares - which works quite well thus far.
No, you don't need to add a patch. Simply setting dos filetimes should
do it.
Jeremy.
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Re: [Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:55:56AM +0200, Thomas Werner wrote:
 no, it doesnt work :( i tested it with:
 
 samba-3.0.11-acl (still broken, fails after some try's to save an excel 
 file)
 samba-3.0.13-acl (still broken, same behavior )
 samba-3.0.13-noacl (seems to work)
 
 always the same violation error thing in excel with acl's and filetimes 
 param.

I need to see the ACL on the file plus the debug level 10 log of the
failure.

Thanks,

Jeremy.
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[Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-29 Thread Urs Rau
Jeremy or Nathan,
Jeremy Allison wrote:
Ok, I have a working theory for this. It concerns ACLs and what 
happens when excel wants to update the filetime on a file the user 
doesn't own.

Normally you just set the dos filetime parameter to allow this 
(this causes a timestamp to be updated on a file if you can write to 
it - normally POSIX only allows this if you're the owner). I've
realised the codepath here doesn't check ACL semantics. This is a bug
we've had since we introduced ACLs a long time ago but only now seems
to have been triggered.

Here is a patch to the just released 3.0.13 that causes ACL entries 
to be properly checked when dos filetime= True has been set.

Please try this on top of 3.0.13 and let me know if it fixes the 
issues.
Has this been confirmed, as fixing it? I am rolling a 3.0.13 maintenance 
release and it would be nice to clear this excel ACL bug. What is the 
bugzilla entry for this bug, so I can follow it?

Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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RE: [Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-29 Thread Nathan Vidican

No confirmation over here, havn't had a chance to compile a new copy -
rolled back to 3.0.8 for the time being it's been less buggy but still have
occasional file(s) locking up.

A little unclear here, do I need to add a patch to 3.0.13 before compiling,
or simply add 'dos filetime = yes' to the configuration?

Lastly, does it matter if I'm not using ACL's? Just using plain old UNIX
permissions (750/660 dir/file) and the force-group parameter for most
shares - which works quite well thus far.

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Jeremy or Nathan,

Jeremy Allison wrote:

 Ok, I have a working theory for this. It concerns ACLs and what
 happens when excel wants to update the filetime on a file the user
 doesn't own.

 Normally you just set the dos filetime parameter to allow this
 (this causes a timestamp to be updated on a file if you can write to
 it - normally POSIX only allows this if you're the owner). I've
 realised the codepath here doesn't check ACL semantics. This is a bug
 we've had since we introduced ACLs a long time ago but only now seems
 to have been triggered.

 Here is a patch to the just released 3.0.13 that causes ACL entries
 to be properly checked when dos filetime= True has been set.

 Please try this on top of 3.0.13 and let me know if it fixes the
 issues.

Has this been confirmed, as fixing it? I am rolling a 3.0.13 maintenance
release and it would be nice to clear this excel ACL bug. What is the
bugzilla entry for this bug, so I can follow it?

Thanks a lot.

Regards,

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Head of Operations
Operation Mobilisation
UK National Office

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Re: [Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-29 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:01:10AM +0100, Urs Rau wrote:
 Jeremy or Nathan,
 
 Jeremy Allison wrote:
 
 Ok, I have a working theory for this. It concerns ACLs and what 
 happens when excel wants to update the filetime on a file the user 
 doesn't own.
 
 Normally you just set the dos filetime parameter to allow this 
 (this causes a timestamp to be updated on a file if you can write to 
 it - normally POSIX only allows this if you're the owner). I've
 realised the codepath here doesn't check ACL semantics. This is a bug
 we've had since we introduced ACLs a long time ago but only now seems
 to have been triggered.
 
 Here is a patch to the just released 3.0.13 that causes ACL entries 
 to be properly checked when dos filetime= True has been set.
 
 Please try this on top of 3.0.13 and let me know if it fixes the 
 issues.
 
 Has this been confirmed, as fixing it? I am rolling a 3.0.13 maintenance 
 release and it would be nice to clear this excel ACL bug. What is the 
 bugzilla entry for this bug, so I can follow it?

Most people have reported this being fixed with dos filetimes=yes
and 3.0.13. There are still a few outstanding issues when people are
using ACLs I'm looking into right now.

Jeremy.
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Re: [Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-29 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 07:45:53AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote:
 
 No confirmation over here, havn't had a chance to compile a new copy -
 rolled back to 3.0.8 for the time being it's been less buggy but still have
 occasional file(s) locking up.
 
 A little unclear here, do I need to add a patch to 3.0.13 before compiling,
 or simply add 'dos filetime = yes' to the configuration?
 
 Lastly, does it matter if I'm not using ACL's? Just using plain old UNIX
 permissions (750/660 dir/file) and the force-group parameter for most
 shares - which works quite well thus far.

No, you don't need to add a patch. Simply setting dos filetimes should
do it.

Jeremy.
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[Samba] Re: Problems with Excel MS Word files (still)

2005-03-29 Thread Urs Rau
Jeremy Allison wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 07:45:53AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote:
No confirmation over here, havn't had a chance to compile a new copy -
rolled back to 3.0.8 for the time being it's been less buggy but still have
occasional file(s) locking up.
A little unclear here, do I need to add a patch to 3.0.13 before compiling,
or simply add 'dos filetime = yes' to the configuration?
Lastly, does it matter if I'm not using ACL's? Just using plain old UNIX
permissions (750/660 dir/file) and the force-group parameter for most
shares - which works quite well thus far.

No, you don't need to add a patch. Simply setting dos filetimes should
do it.
Ohh, I have added the patch you emailed to the newsgroup on 24/3/05, in 
this thread, I guess I should back that out again in my custom rpm? Or 
is it a fix that  will make it into 3.0.14 anyway? (maybe I am confusing 
people with my question about my self-rolled samba rpm, where I included 
your newspost as a patch on top of 3.0.13, sorry)

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