Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba

2003-07-09 Thread Matt Neimeyer

However, the advantage that GPO's had when I used them is that they seem 
to take effect immediatly where some of the registry edits with kixtart 
don't...
The reason for this is that in a native 2K domain, you can set a GPO 
refresh interval that downloads and applies updated GPOs. We could 
certainly implement something similar to that, whether with Kixtart or 
developing a new app...
I didn't mean that so much... although that is something else... I meant 
more that if I have a common My Documents folder (and at home I do) if I 
change the logon script to point to a new folder it takes two logons to 
have that folder redirected.

I'm assuming it works like this...

1. Log on
2. Read location of My Documents
3. Run Logon Script / Set Registry
4. Log off
5. Repeat
So that there is no second step 2 until repeated...

Matt

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Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba

2003-07-09 Thread Jerry Haltom
I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying
applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software
packages.

I like to call it wpkg. (dpkg for Windows :)

It's very simple, but, very effective, and it works for more than MSI's.
It consists of a script, which is run at STARTUP (not login) as a domain
account. I did this by using FireDaemon to start it. The script examines
a centralized XML file (on a share reachable by the service the script
is started by). The XML file details packages, version, and command
lines to add/remove/upgrade each package. There is another XML file, for
profiles, which reference package's in the packages file. This is used
for departments in my office. I have a profile named "it" which requires
certain packages. Profiles can inherit from other profiles. The sum of
all packages is collected.

The script then compares the packages that should be installed, with
those that are, from a local xml file (C:\WINNT\System32\wpkg.xml), and
determines what action it needs to take for each file. Install, Upgrade,
or remove.

Each package has a list of command lines assoicated with each action.
Such as running msiexec /i  for the install action, and
msiexec /x for remove commands... some of my packages just run xcopy.

It's pretty useful. The main problem im having with it is the FireDaemon
service needs to start as a Domain user, so I need to edit the computers
local security policy to enable that account to Log on as a Service.
That would have been automated by group policy. :D



Jerry Haltom
Feedback Plus, Inc.

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 12:22, Erich Vinson wrote:
> > However, the advantage that GPO's had when I used them is that they seem to 
> > take effect immediatly where some of the registry edits with kixtart 
> > don't... 
> 
> The reason for this is that in a native 2K domain, you can set a GPO 
> refresh interval that downloads and applies updated GPOs. We could 
> certainly implement something similar to that, whether with Kixtart or 
> developing a new app...
> 
> I would like to start getting input from other admins that use Samba as 
> a 2KServer alternative as far as the features they would like to see, 
> how it should be deployed, etc.
> 
> Not sure right now which is better, modify Kixtart or start from 
> scratch? I have been thinking more and more and definately want to get 
> something started, if for no other reason than it would make my life 
> easier ;-) Of course, I'm willing to share! :-D Also, this could really 
> help the cause of Samba as the GPO thing is a pretty major hurdle for 2K 
> admins to overcome when considering whether to switch or not.
> 
> -- 
> Erich Vinson
> Chief of Technology
> IT, Inc.
> 
> 64 6F 6E 27 74 20 66 65 61 72 20 74 68 65 20 70 65 6E 67 75 69 6E

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Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba

2003-07-11 Thread Urs Rau
Jerry Haltom wrote:

I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying
applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software
packages.
I like to call it wpkg. (dpkg for Windows :)

It's very simple, but, very effective, and it works for more than MSI's.
Sounds very interesting. I take it you are about to offer it for 
inspection/download at some point in the near future? Or you are writing 
up some plan of action on how to write another (more 
comprehensive/flexible) one?
And we are all waiting very patiently. ;-) Good work! Keep it up!

Thanks for your efforts.

Urs Rau

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Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba

2003-07-11 Thread Jerry Haltom
I am actually trying to figure out how to set up anonymous read access
to a peice of the Subversion source repository it lives in so I can give
everybody access. :D

For now, here it is:

http://jack.feedbackplusinc.com/~jhaltom/wpkg.tar.gz

It's not currently super impressive, but it gets the job done. It is by
no means a full "product". Just a simple script.

Please, if anybody has useful contributions, I'll happily accept them.

Really, my only real need, is some clean way to launch this on
workstations at boot. RIght now im using FireDaemon, to run "cscript.exe
\\path\to\script", and stop when it exits. This is fairly ugly, and hard
to set up.

I was thinking of quickly knocking out a small NT service in VS.NET, but
I haven't done that in ages (I run a full linux desktop now). If I did
that, I would probably just rewrite the script as a real service
anyways.

Also, I need to add dependencies between packages in some way. Or, if
that's too far to go, at least ordering. Right now, it installs packages
in a pretty random order. Need some way to specify to install Package X
before it installs package Y, which happens to be an upgrade to package
X, or something.

Enjoy!

On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 10:13, Urs Rau wrote:
> Jerry Haltom wrote:
> 
> > I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying
> > applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software
> > packages.
> > 
> > I like to call it wpkg. (dpkg for Windows :)
> > 
> > It's very simple, but, very effective, and it works for more than MSI's.
> 
> Sounds very interesting. I take it you are about to offer it for 
> inspection/download at some point in the near future? Or you are writing 
> up some plan of action on how to write another (more 
> comprehensive/flexible) one?
> And we are all waiting very patiently. ;-) Good work! Keep it up!
> 
> Thanks for your efforts.
> 
> Urs Rau
> 
> 

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