Re: KVM virtualized Windows x64 machines crash

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-08-03 9:14 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Matej HALAC  wrote:

On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 10:41 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Matej HALAC  wrote:



Also host servers get this message in the logs:
kernel: kvm: 2323: cpu0 unimplemented perfctr wrmsr: 0xc1 data 0xabcd

I myself have a ML150 G6 with Intel Xeon E5504 that runs SL6 and libvirt
with a Windows server without a hitch.

Any advice is appreciated since I tried looking for the solution and
nothing helped me.


You get this on both servers? If you can spare the time, test one of
the other virtualization technologies.


Yes these messages are present on both machines and also the Windows
image crashes on both as well. The specific machine worked without
problems on my ML150 so I doubt it's a problem with the Guest image.


I'm afraid this is a level of problem where buying a server license
from our favorite upstream vendor would help get you access to the
technical support of the people who are actually writing it. And I'm
afraid I'm not personally very happy with KVM based virtualization. If
the GUI is that bad, it makes me concerned about the quality of the
rest of the backend.


To be fair, it's likely that the backend guys are not doing the GUI.

-Chris

Re: Can't get PHP working on apache(httpd) server.Scientific Linux 6.1.

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-08-03 8:26 AM, Luca Renaud wrote:

It seems PHP is not enabled by default when httpd starts on SL
6.1.So,I installed packages php php-common etc. and when I read
through httpd.conf I do not see any LoadModule item related to PHP
(but in /usr/lib/httpd/modules/ there is a libphp5.so) and when I do
httpd -l it is not statically integrated.More specifically,I deployed
the Pimcore CMS on apache DocumentRoot /var/www/html/ creating a
directory pimcore: /var/www/html/pimcore/ and to easily test if PHP is
working I put a index.php file with just this:  and I
go to firefox and put http://localhost:80/ and apache is working I see
the splash screen,then I put http://localhost:80/pimcore/index.php the
browser finds the file but the PHP splash screen does not appear just
a blank page meaning apache is not using PHP.So what is the trick to
put apache working with PHP on SL 6.1? Thanks.



Did you install the php packages from the repos? When I did that and 
then checked whether I had the module installed with:


apachectl -M | grep php

I found that php5_module was indeed installed in apache.

PHP related configuration stuff should be in /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf

Also, if you haven't restarted apache after the PHP install, try that 
and it might do the trick :)


-Chris

Re: where is autofs.schema?

[Chris Tooley]

Perhaps as a service for those who are looking for it in the future you 
could post where you found it?


-Chris

On 11-08-02 10:29 AM, Ken Teh wrote:

Never mind.  I found it.  See what I mean about these bits of stuff darting all 
over the place.  I can perhaps understand
it with a major version update.  But a release update?



On 08/02/2011 12:03 PM, Ken Teh wrote:

The redhat/autofs.schema is not in /etc/openldap/schema. It was there in 6.0 
but it's not there in 6.1. Where did it go?

Ken

upgrading from SL5 to SL6

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

Do you still need to upgrade with media to go from SL5 to SL6, or can I 
do it from a CLI?


thanks,
-Chris

Re: Upgrade from SL6.0 to 6.1?

[Chris Tooley]

FYI,

I needed to do a "yum clean all" before the "yum update", to clear the 
metadata file checksums :)


-chris

On 11-07-28 11:33 AM, Dan M wrote:

On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 18:21 +, Les Fairall wrote:



To upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 is it as simple as RHEL... with RHEL6.0 it
seemed to happen when i did a yum update.  Or do I have to to more to
upgrade an
existing 6.0 box?  Thanks for all the good work!







See Troy's response from a few days ago in the message below

 Forwarded Message 
From: Troy Dawson
To: Yasha Karant
Cc: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
Subject: Re: SL Minor Version Upgrade Question
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:26:27 -0500

On 07/26/2011 03:12 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

On 07/26/2011 12:48 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:

On 07/21/2011 11:03 AM, Dormition Skete wrote:

Hello.

We already have a server using SL6.0. I see that 6.1 is probably
going to be coming out soon. If we just keep our server updated,
will it automatically "become" a 6.1 server, or do we need to
download a new 6.1 DVD when it comes out, and go through the upgrade
process to make the server 6.1?

Any help with this will be appreciated.





Hi,
This is one place where Scientific Linux differs from RHEL.

The default setting for Scientific Linux is for you to "sit on a
release". This means that you do not automatically update to the next
release, unless you want to. So if you install SL 5.4, you will stay at
SL 5.4, getting security updates, until you manually update to whichever
release you want.

If you want the same functionality as RHEL (your machine is
automatically updated to the latest release) you need to install
yum-conf-sl6x.
yum-conf-sl6x

Troy


Will yum-conf-sl6x automatically update to the latest production release
(e.g., SL 6.1) but will not update to beta/testing/release candidates?
I assume that one can pick and choose -- for example, if one is running
a higher (later) revision kernel and kernel firmware than the production
release, one may simply skip the kernel portion of the update.

Yasha Karant

You are correct.  It won't update to the latest release until the final
release.
The key is that yum-conf-sl6x's yum repository is 6x.  The i386 and
x86_64 directories in 6x (and 4x and 5x) are links to the latest
release.  So right now those links are still pointing to 6.0, but on
Thursday (if there are no major bugs) we will change those links to
point to 6.1.

Troy

Re: WD Advanced Format hard drive issues

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-07-27 11:48 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

On 07/27/2011 11:23 PM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Yasha Karant wrote:

...
Is it safe to do the merry chase down the dependency trail to port a
later parted to SL 6 or will some of these cause SL 6 to fail/become
unstable? Does anyone have a SL 6 port of either parted or gparted
that is more recent than the stock SL 6 versions?


You asked about SL6, but my experience with SL5 may be relevant. The
stock SL5 parted wouldn't make a label on a 3TB WD USB drive (4096 byte
sectors), so I compiled what was then the latest version, parted-2.4,
from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/. There were no absent dependencies,
installation put the result into /usr/local/sbin, leaving the stock
version alone, and the compiled version was adequate. They're up to
parted-3.0 now.

Steven Yellin


I tried your suggested approach first but did not mention this in my
posting.  Below is the failure from configure of parted-3.0 on SL 6 :

checking for uuid_generate in -luuid... no
configure: error: GNU Parted requires libuuid - a part of the
util-linux-ng package (but
usually distributed separately in libuuid-devel, uuid-dev or similar)
This can probably be found on your distribution's CD or FTP site or at:
  http://userweb.kernel.org/~kzak/util-linux-ng/
Note: originally, libuuid was part of the e2fsprogs package.  Later, it
moved to util-linux-ng-2.16, and that package is now the preferred source.

End output.

I was going to start chasing down the above dependencies, but instead
attempted the Fedora path -- and again faced a chase as I previously
have noted.  If I install / build the various parts that parted-3.0
requires, will I break SL 6?


I don't think you'll break SL if you install the required software from 
repos...


I was curious what else you might need so I downloaded gparted to see 
what the dependencies are, here's what I had to install:


yum install libuuid-devel device-mapper-devel readline-devel

These are all from SL repositories.

After I installed those, gparted 3.0 compiled fine :)

-Chris

Re: Suggestion for a hard drive CUPS-like data base

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-07-27 12:01 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

On 07/27/2011 11:46 AM, Chris Tooley wrote:

On 11-07-27 10:25 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:

I have found that modern CUPS printer support configuration tools under
EL have a fairly complete data base of the drivers/parameters needed for
vendor specific printers.
To some extent, this seems to include even reverse engineered data for
printers for which the vendor will not provide any detailed public
specifications and only provides proprietary "drivers" to the monopoly
(and sometimes, Apple).

Given various comments and suggestions that have appeared concerning the
proper Linux formatting/partitioning and use of some current SATA hard
drives that no longer present the 512 byte standard to the operating
system, could SL (or RH or something equivalent to the CUPS team or ...)
provide a data base for drives similar to the CUPS one for printers?
For example, during the initial installation of either a new drive or a
new major release of the OS (e.g., going from EL 5 to EL 6), the drive
partitioning/formatting utility would recognize the drive(s) in use and
automatically set either acceptable or "optimal" parameters.

If such a data base exists, relevant URLs and/or RPMs would be
appreciated.

Yasha Karant


This may be a suggestion that would be more pertinent to the upstream
vendor, as I understand it SL doesn't actually do any development to
modify or add to the EL base upon which SL is built. :)

If it's already been done, I haven't heard about it - that's not to say
it doesn't exist though ;)

-Chris



My understanding is that "CUPS is the standards-based, open source
printing system developed by Apple Inc. for Mac OS® X and other
UNIX®-like operating systems" quoted from http://www.cups.org/  .

Thus, CUPS is from a .org, not from a vendor, or even an
academic/government entity such as Fermilab or CERN.  Hence, although SL
and even RH would not the establishing body, it is appropriate for SL,
not just RH, to spearhead such an initiative for another appropriate
.org entity .   If Fermilab/CERN have sufficient resources, they could
develop such a data base for use with gparted or other open source
non-volatile storage (e.g., disk) subsystems.

Yasha


True, however, Redhat has more resources with regards to development of 
new software (people who are extremely familiar with linux architecture, 
at least) than SL.


I'm not trying to say that you *shouldn't* suggest this stuff to the SL 
list, just that it would be more *likely* to get implemented if 
suggested to RH - or perhaps even a large server HDD vendor such as 
Seagate(unlikely) or Intel(SSDs, right? Also they do a lot of work in 
the kernel).  Not to mention that the rate of uptake in the rest of the 
Linux community would be greater if supported by a larger vendor.


As I understand SL's structure, they have about 3 people who are 
dedicated to implementing a RH-branding free EL for the scientific 
community so they "reduce duplicated effort of the labs, and have a 
common install base for the various experimenters".  If there are people 
developing for SL - it's most likely for software to do with scientific 
applications which run *on* SL - for instance, ROOT.  I think it's out 
of scope for the SL maintainers to spearhead a software initiative... My 
interpretation could be wrong though, anyone from SL care to correct me 
on that?


However, I do think it would be a good idea to have some sort of 
database that would allow optimization of file systems on specific HDDs. 
 But then again, I've been quite happy just using the default HDD 
formatting options from SL when I install - so far I've not had any 
problems.


-Chris

Re: Suggestion for a hard drive CUPS-like data base

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-07-27 10:25 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:

I have found that modern CUPS printer support configuration tools under
EL have a fairly complete data base of the drivers/parameters needed for
vendor specific printers.
To some extent, this seems to include even reverse engineered data for
printers for which the vendor will not provide any detailed public
specifications and only provides proprietary "drivers" to the monopoly
(and sometimes, Apple).

Given various comments and suggestions that have appeared concerning the
proper Linux formatting/partitioning and use of some current SATA hard
drives that no longer present the 512 byte standard to the operating
system, could SL (or RH or something equivalent to the CUPS team or ...)
provide a data base for drives similar to the CUPS one for printers?
For example, during the initial installation of either a new drive or a
new major release of the OS (e.g., going from EL 5 to EL 6), the drive
partitioning/formatting utility would recognize the drive(s) in use and
automatically set either acceptable or "optimal" parameters.

If such a data base exists, relevant URLs and/or RPMs would be appreciated.

Yasha Karant


This may be a suggestion that would be more pertinent to the upstream 
vendor, as I understand it SL doesn't actually do any development to 
modify or add to the EL base upon which SL is built. :)


If it's already been done, I haven't heard about it - that's not to say 
it doesn't exist though ;)


-Chris

Re: SL6 and debuginfo RPMS

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-07-27 8:52 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:

On 07/26/2011 06:25 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:

Hello,

How do I install debuginfo rpms on an SL6 x86_64 machine?  Surely I can
simply add a repo?  It looks like any mention of it has been wiped from
the website...?

-Chris


Hi Chris,
Sorry, I meant to reply to your last email.
Yes, they are in a repository.  I looked in SL 6.0, and there was a bug
in our packages and the debuginfo wasn't listed as one of the
repositories.  That has been fixed in SL 6.1, but the fix hasn't made it
to SL 6.0.

If you need it right now for SL 6.0, make the following file
/etc/yum.repos.d/sl-debuginfo.repo  and put in the following

[sl-debuginfo]
name=Scientific Linux Debuginfo
baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/$releasever/archive/debuginfo/

http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/$releasever/archive/debuginfo/

http://ftp2.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/$releasever/archive/debuginfo/

ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/$releasever/archive/debuginfo/
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-dawson


Troy



Perfect!! This worked great, I'll post this reply to my question on the 
forum too.


Thanks again Troy! You rock :D

-Chris

SL6 and debuginfo RPMS

[Chris Tooley]

Hello,

How do I install debuginfo rpms on an SL6 x86_64 machine?  Surely I can 
simply add a repo?  It looks like any mention of it has been wiped from 
the website...?


-Chris

Re: sl6 and debuginfo RPMs

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-05-11 10:14 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:

On 05/11/2011 08:42 AM, Sophana Kok wrote:

Hi

I can't find debuginfo packages for latest glibc (glibc-debuginfo-2.12-
1.7.el6_0.5.i686)



They are up there now.


It seems that your package build system doesn't automatically update the sl-
debug repository?



Yes they do.
There were two missing debuginfo rpm's (the glibc and a
policycoreutils-debuginfo rpm) and both of those were due to human error.

Troy



Under which repo are the debuginfo RPMs located?  I tried installing 
some but debuginfo-install failed.


-Chris

Dropboxing (was Re: virtual network)

[Chris Tooley]

Thanks Todd.I like it but don't completely trust it.  I keep
critical data files outside the VM and "Dropboxed" for security.


A small side note about "dropboxing". Unless you have full control over 
the server into which the files are being dropped, then I wouldn't 
expect any security beyond them promising not to look at your files ;)


There's an interesting open source alternative out there called 
sparkleshare that _can_ only rely upon your own computers:

http://sparkleshare.org/

From their site: "Documents in transit are encrypted end-to-end, and 
can optionally be stored scrambled on the host as well. So there's no 
peeking by anyone."


Haven't used it yet but it looks like it uses git.

-Chris

RHEL5 to SL5

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I would like to switch a server from RHEL5 to SL5, is there a guide 
somewhere? I thought perhaps this was answered on the list already but 
for the life of me I can't seem to find it.


-Chris

Scientific linux users email headers

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all (mainly the SL maintainer-type-people),

I have a really neat thing in Thunderbird 3.1.11 that pops up on most 
emails from lists servs: a button that says "respond to list"...


Except, it doesn't show up for the scientific linux users (SLusers) list 
emails; I figure it's because of the email headers.


Looking at one of the list emails source vs. the SLusers email source, 
there are a small number of extra email headers not on the SLusers 
emails that may be the culprit, reproduced here with some possible values:


list-post: <mailto:scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov>
list-id: 
Reply-to: "Chris Tooley" , 
"scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov" 


Dunno how hard it would be to implement this but that would be cool to 
have this feature for this list.. :)


-Chris

Re: Top posting versus bottom posting

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-30 2:48 PM, John H. Outlan CPA wrote:

Sent from T-Mobile G2, please excuse any typos
On Jun 30, 2011 5:28 PM, "Chris Tooley" mailto:ctoo...@uvic.ca>> wrote:
 >>
 >> I was discussing this very matter with a colleague but half an hour ago;
 >> he/she serves as an editor on a well respected international academic
 >> journal.  Her/his opinion is that top posting is the only appropriate
 >> method.  Thus, there are differences of opinion.
 >
 >
 > "There are differences of opinion" is all that can be gained from
this though, appeal to authority is a logical fallacy ;)
 >
 >
 >> May we all settle this once and for all if it is insisted that based on
 >> one's response ordering, threading, etc., work will be put into the
 >> dustbin (/dev/null, spam, trash, whatever)?  May the "owner/s" of this
 >> list put forward official standards of etiquette as well as clarity
 >> about the matter of threading, and the correct method(s) so that
 >> threading will be respected?
 >
 >
 > Even if there were such a thing, it would be hard to enforce it,
beyond social interactions.
 >
 > Personally, I prefer the bottom posting with interspersing *key*
points of information, otherwise it just becomes a big pile of spaghetti :)
 >
 > However, if a thread starts to do top posting, I will try to follow
that convention.
 >
 > BTW, this sort of argument is colloquially known as Bikeshedding. I
suggest everyone with a vested interest in this look it up ;)
 >
 > Hope all is well with everyone,
 > -Chris

I didn't want to respond to this because excepting this list I gave up
mail lists in the 90s for this sort of thing. I try to bottom post for
threading purposes, but my preference is top posting in the age of
smartphones where information is more easily accessible.

What is the official position of this list on that?  That should govern
and we can be done with it. I top posted here once and got ostracized
for it.

This is why forums are superior for the exchange of information, both
text and visual (you knew that was coming!) :)

So I defer to this mailing list authority on this issue. Btw, top
posting is much more expedient on a smart phone.



Sending to list, I'm sure it was meant for the whole list and not just me ;)

-Chris

Re: Top posting versus bottom posting

[Chris Tooley]

I was discussing this very matter with a colleague but half an hour ago;
he/she serves as an editor on a well respected international academic
journal.  Her/his opinion is that top posting is the only appropriate
method.  Thus, there are differences of opinion.


"There are differences of opinion" is all that can be gained from this 
though, appeal to authority is a logical fallacy ;)



May we all settle this once and for all if it is insisted that based on
one's response ordering, threading, etc., work will be put into the
dustbin (/dev/null, spam, trash, whatever)?  May the "owner/s" of this
list put forward official standards of etiquette as well as clarity
about the matter of threading, and the correct method(s) so that
threading will be respected?


Even if there were such a thing, it would be hard to enforce it, beyond 
social interactions.


Personally, I prefer the bottom posting with interspersing *key* points 
of information, otherwise it just becomes a big pile of spaghetti :)


However, if a thread starts to do top posting, I will try to follow that 
convention.


BTW, this sort of argument is colloquially known as Bikeshedding. I 
suggest everyone with a vested interest in this look it up ;)


Hope all is well with everyone,
-Chris

Re: ntp-perl rpm

[Chris Tooley]

To further this discussion, you can browse the RPMS on the repos here:

http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6/x86_64/os/Packages/
(for x86_64 architecture)


-Chris

On 11-06-29 2:19 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:

On 06/29/2011 03:21 PM, Les Fairall wrote:

I am still learning my way around the sl6 distro...

Its not on SL-60-x86_64-2011-03-03-Install-DVD.iso should I be using one
of the other iso's?

The systems I am working with do not have internet access so am relying
on imported iso's/distro trees.



Ah, that makes more sense.
The SL 6.0 Install DVD does not have *every* package.  For that you need
the SL 6.0 Everything DVD's.

The Install DVD was created so that people only needed one DVD to do an
average install.  But if something isn't in a group in the comps.xml
file, (which ntp-perl isn't) then it isn't on the Install DVD.

Troy






*From: *"Troy Dawson"
*To: *"Les Fairall"
*Cc: *scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
*Sent: *Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:00:32 PM
*Subject: *Re: ntp-perl rpm

On 06/29/2011 02:15 PM, Les Fairall wrote:
  >
  >  This is not a major thing, more of a 'what happened to'
  >
  >  In RHEL6, they spun ntptrace and ntp-wait out out of the ntp rpm and
  >  created an ntp-perl rpm.
  >
  >  Is the ntp-perl rpm available on the sl6 distro ? I searched and could
  >  not find it. Its a minor thing and easy for me to workaround, just that
  >  its easier on me to keep my SL6 boxes configured like my RHEL6 boxes.
  >
  >  Thanks in advance...
  >  Les
  >
  >

yum install ntp-perl

I don't know where you were looking to try to download it from, or even
why, but it's in the SL6 release.

Troy
--
__
Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468
Fermilab ComputingDivision/SCF/FEF/SLSMS Group
__

Re: Java firefox plugin?

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-28 11:31 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:

On 06/28/2011 12:18 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:

Hello all, me again!

I had thought there was a java firefox plugin in a repository somewhere,
but I either cannot remember the name or don't have the right repository
installed...  Is it even available in the repos?

Thanks for the help!
-Chris


SL4 and SL5
yum install java-1.6.0-sun-compat
This will pull in the sun/oracle jdk, install it, and put links in the
appropriate places so that you have a java plugin in your browser.

SL6
yum --enablerepo=sl-testing install icedtea-web
icedtea-web is the OpenJDK based java plugin.

Troy


Wow! Very cool! Thank you Troy!

-Chris

Java firefox plugin?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all, me again!

I had thought there was a java firefox plugin in a repository somewhere, 
but I either cannot remember the name or don't have the right repository 
installed...  Is it even available in the repos?


Thanks for the help!
-Chris

xtables-addons?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello,

I was wondering where I would get an xtables-addons package for 
Scientific Linux 6? According to xtables-addons' distro availability 
table here:


http://xtables-addons.sourceforge.net/ds-full.php

RHEL6 and CentOS6 both have a version of xtables(1.4.7)...? am I reading 
this wrong?


On an SL6 system, "yum search xtables-addons" returns nothing...? Also, 
as far as I can tell, it's not in rpmforge or epel...


Any hints?

Thanks,
-Chris

Re: LabPlot

[Chris Tooley]

Aha, also found these:

yum install kdelibs-devel kdelibs3-devel

Doing that seemed to allow configure to continue on it's merry way.

Hope that helps

-Chris

On 11-06-27 12:39 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

Not the fix:

[root@jb344 yum.repos.d]# yum install qt3-devel
Configuration file /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/fastestmirror.conf not found
Unable to find configuration file for plugin fastestmirror
Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, kabi, protect-packages,
refresh-packagekit, security
Loading support for Red Hat kernel ABI
Setting up Install Process
Package qt3-devel-3.3.8b-29.el6.x86_64 already installed and latest version
Nothing to do

On 06/27/2011 12:28 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:

On 11-06-27 12:10 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

Does anyone have a working copy and/or RPM of LabPlot for RHEL 6 (SL 6)
x86-64?

URL: http://labplot.sourceforge.net/

In the past, I have built this application from source. With SL 6, I
get the following message from configure:

checking for KDE... configure: error:
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will
fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!

despite having loaded all the SL KDE development packages, having
/usr/lib64/kde4 and /usr/include/kde4 present.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Yasha Karant


Try installing kde3 development files, it looks like that program was
last edited in 2008, and may not understand kde4. I'm not a kde
programmer so I don't know if kde4 is backwards compatible with kde3 or
not.

In SL6, that would be "yum install qt3-devel" (afaik)

Hope that works for you!
-Chris

Re: LabPlot

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-27 12:28 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:

On 11-06-27 12:10 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

Does anyone have a working copy and/or RPM of LabPlot for RHEL 6 (SL 6)
x86-64?

URL:  http://labplot.sourceforge.net/

In the past, I have built this application from source.  With SL 6, I
get the following message from configure:

checking for KDE... configure: error:
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!

despite having loaded all the SL KDE development packages, having
/usr/lib64/kde4  and /usr/include/kde4 present.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Yasha Karant


Try installing kde3 development files, it looks like that program was
last edited in 2008, and may not understand kde4.  I'm not a kde
programmer so I don't know if kde4 is backwards compatible with kde3 or not.

In SL6, that would be "yum install qt3-devel" (afaik)

Hope that works for you!
-Chris


Also, it looks like labplot 2.0 might use qt4...

http://labplot.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/labplot/2.0/CMakeLists.txt?revision=291&view=markup

"find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED)"

And, it looks like my statement about it last being in development in 
2008 was incorrect, browsing the source code on sf:


http://labplot.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/labplot/

"3 days" for 2.0,
"4 months" for 1.6.0

Just thought I would correct that misstatement ;)

-Chris

Re: LabPlot

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-27 12:10 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

Does anyone have a working copy and/or RPM of LabPlot for RHEL 6 (SL 6)
x86-64?

URL:  http://labplot.sourceforge.net/

In the past, I have built this application from source.  With SL 6, I
get the following message from configure:

checking for KDE... configure: error:
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!

despite having loaded all the SL KDE development packages, having
/usr/lib64/kde4  and /usr/include/kde4 present.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Yasha Karant


Try installing kde3 development files, it looks like that program was 
last edited in 2008, and may not understand kde4.  I'm not a kde 
programmer so I don't know if kde4 is backwards compatible with kde3 or not.


In SL6, that would be "yum install qt3-devel" (afaik)

Hope that works for you!
-Chris

Re: which repos are good?

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-20 8:55 PM, Kevin Thomas wrote:

I installed SL6 (i386) tonight in a virtual machine for testing and I
decided to run a yum update and was surprised that it failed because it
was having trouble contacting the repos.  Below is a snippet of what I'm
talking about.  What repos are valid and why am I seeing this?

Total download size: 132 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.0/i386/updates/security/avahi-0.6.25-11.el6.i686.rpm:
[Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 56 - ""
Trying other mirror.

[snippety]

Kevin



PYCURL Error 56 is, if equivalent to libcurl:

CURLE_RECV_ERROR (56)
Failure with receiving network data.

So this means there is some sort of network problem.

I am able to resolve these myself, so perhaps the servers were 
temporarily down. If not, perhaps there is an internet problem on your 
end?  Try pinging those urls, if they're still down maybe you need to 
refresh your dns cache. (if it's caching on your machine that is)...


Hope that helps!

-Chris

PAM +LDAP without NSLCD?

[Chris Tooley]

Is there a way to enable LDAP with PAM without using NSLCD in SL6? This 
appears to be something new and, along with SSSD, cannot understand the 
ridiculous LDAP schema I am forced to deal with - SL5 works flawlessly 
without these, is there a way to get the same sort of functionality in SL6?


Basically, I want to have the same authentication which happens in SL5 
to happen in SL6.


Thanks!

-Chris

Re: non-stop printer notification

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-14 11:59 AM, Ken Teh wrote:

I have a user who's print job was cancelled and he now gets dialog box popping 
up every minute telling
him so and suggesting he find out why.  And little else.

Sound familiar?  Is there a simple way of shutting up the machine short of 
shutting it down?


You can try clearing the printer queue... Perhaps it's continually 
trying to print and failing?


Or, try restarting CUPS:

/etc/init.d/cups restart

-Chris

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-10 7:56 AM, Connie Sieh wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011, Chris Tooley wrote:


Hello everyone!

OK still trying to get graphical login working with SSSD + GDM, so
here's more information about my system setup, with which I cannot login
using an LDAP account through GDM.

* I am using 6rolling
* I am using base 6rolling install - nothing customized.
* I am using SSSD (sssd-1.5.1-34.el6.x86_64) with LDAP for
authentication and identification purposes.
* I can log in as root
* I can log in as a local user, created by root
* Both the local user and root can log in using GDM (root, after
editing pam.d/gdm)
* I can log in with an LDAP account using SSH.
* I can log in with an LDAP account into a terminal on the computer
* When I go into runlevel 3 with "init 3" from a root account on a
terminal, and log in as a user on another terminal, I can start X11 with
the "startx" command.

When I attempt to login using an LDAP account, here is the behaviour
that I get:
I click "other", enter my username, enter my password.   The busy cursor
appears, and then the screen blacks out and returns me back to my login
screen.

I figure there is something weird going on with GDM.

Unfortunately, GDM is being coy with any possible errors, and, even when
I set debug=true in /etc/gdm/custom.conf I get a plethora of debugging
messages, none of which seem to hint to any errors.  I can attach
/etc/messages to an email if requested but I cannot see any errors.

Here is what "id ctooley" returns when I run it as root btw:

[root@heplw44 gdm]# id ctooley
uid=110233(ctooley) gid=110233 groups=110233,34244(hep)

Any clues in this would be immensely appreciated :)
Thanks!
-Chris Tooley




Did this work under SL 6.0?

-Connie Sieh


Well, the thing is, I don't know, because there was a separate problem 
which plagued SSSD versions lower than 1.4, to do with groups - so I 
never tried logging in with gdm...


I have a separate LDAP server which I will try on Monday to see if it's 
something with the LDAP server or just my configuration.


Thanks,
-Chris

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-09 6:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 20:50, Chris Tooley  wrote:

Hello everyone!

OK still trying to get graphical login working with SSSD + GDM, so here's
more information about my system setup, with which I cannot login using an
LDAP account through GDM.

* I am using 6rolling
* I am using base 6rolling install - nothing customized.
* I am using SSSD (sssd-1.5.1-34.el6.x86_64) with LDAP for
authentication and identification purposes.
* I can log in as root
* I can log in as a local user, created by root
* Both the local user and root can log in using GDM (root, after
editing pam.d/gdm)
* I can log in with an LDAP account using SSH.
* I can log in with an LDAP account into a terminal on the computer


How does the LDAP bind, and can you try not using sssd to see if it is
that which is cachig a bad answer?
I am going to say that I don't think this is GDM as much as pam
getting a DO NOT GO PAST GO somewhere. I would try putting debug
statements in /etc/pam.d/system-auth



I checked, and system-auth (part of what gdm uses) and password-auth 
(part of what sshd uses) are exactly the same. I would expect the 
problem to exist somewhere in gdm's authentication, but there are no 
useful (to me) messages spit out by GDM when I enable gdm debugging.


So far I have not been able to get debugging enabled for PAM. Has anyone 
done that before?


-Chris

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

I have about 35GB free on the partition I'm using.

-Chris

On 11-06-10 1:09 AM, Zoran Ovcin wrote:

Is your / partition full? Or nearly full?

On 06/10/2011 02:50 AM, Chris Tooley wrote:

Hello everyone!

OK still trying to get graphical login working with SSSD + GDM, so
here's more information about my system setup, with which I cannot login
using an LDAP account through GDM.

* I am using 6rolling
* I am using base 6rolling install - nothing customized.
* I am using SSSD (sssd-1.5.1-34.el6.x86_64) with LDAP for
authentication and identification purposes.
* I can log in as root
* I can log in as a local user, created by root
* Both the local user and root can log in using GDM (root, after editing
pam.d/gdm)
* I can log in with an LDAP account using SSH.
* I can log in with an LDAP account into a terminal on the computer
* When I go into runlevel 3 with "init 3" from a root account on a
terminal, and log in as a user on another terminal, I can start X11 with
the "startx" command.

When I attempt to login using an LDAP account, here is the behaviour
that I get:
I click "other", enter my username, enter my password. The busy cursor
appears, and then the screen blacks out and returns me back to my login
screen.

I figure there is something weird going on with GDM.

Unfortunately, GDM is being coy with any possible errors, and, even when
I set debug=true in /etc/gdm/custom.conf I get a plethora of debugging
messages, none of which seem to hint to any errors. I can attach
/etc/messages to an email if requested but I cannot see any errors.

Here is what "id ctooley" returns when I run it as root btw:

[root@heplw44 gdm]# id ctooley
uid=110233(ctooley) gid=110233 groups=110233,34244(hep)

Any clues in this would be immensely appreciated :)
Thanks!
-Chris Tooley

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

Hello everyone!

OK still trying to get graphical login working with SSSD + GDM, so 
here's more information about my system setup, with which I cannot login 
using an LDAP account through GDM.


* I am using 6rolling
* I am using base 6rolling install - nothing customized.
	* I am using SSSD (sssd-1.5.1-34.el6.x86_64) with LDAP for 
authentication and identification purposes.

* I can log in as root
* I can log in as a local user, created by root
	* Both the local user and root can log in using GDM (root, after 
editing pam.d/gdm)

* I can log in with an LDAP account using SSH.
* I can log in with an LDAP account into a terminal on the computer
	* When I go into runlevel 3 with "init 3" from a root account on a 
terminal, and log in as a user on another terminal, I can start X11 with 
the "startx" command.


When I attempt to login using an LDAP account, here is the behaviour 
that I get:
I click "other", enter my username, enter my password.   The busy cursor 
appears, and then the screen blacks out and returns me back to my login 
screen.


I figure there is something weird going on with GDM.

Unfortunately, GDM is being coy with any possible errors, and, even when 
I set debug=true in /etc/gdm/custom.conf I get a plethora of debugging 
messages, none of which seem to hint to any errors.  I can attach 
/etc/messages to an email if requested but I cannot see any errors.


Here is what "id ctooley" returns when I run it as root btw:

[root@heplw44 gdm]# id ctooley
uid=110233(ctooley) gid=110233 groups=110233,34244(hep)

Any clues in this would be immensely appreciated :)
Thanks!
-Chris Tooley

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-06-09 7:40 AM, Brett Viren wrote:

Chris Tooley  writes:


See, that's weird though, because I can log in fine with SSH


Are SSH and GDM using the same PAM stack?  For that matter, is SSH even
using PAM?

-Brett.



I don't think they're using the same PAM stack, but ssh is definitely 
using PAM - and they're both using the same system-auth stack.  What I 
don't know is how gdm handles authentication with PAM.


However, I do know that X11 works just fine, same thing with login on SSH:
I can set "init 3" as root, then log in on a different TTY and "startx" 
works. The problem must be gdm, but I don't know how I would debug this...


Any hints from anyone?

Thanks,
-Chris

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

On both SL 6 and SL 6rolling "GDM or GNOME" prevents "root" logins.  I see
that you are borrowing "uid=0" for the "ctooley" login.   Uid of 0 is root
of course.  So either not use a uid of 0 or figure out how to disable the
new functionality.  Note that this new functionality was added by TUV.

-Connie Sieh


See, that's weird though, because I can log in fine with SSH and then, 
running the "id" command:


-sh-4.1$ id
uid=110233(ctooley) gid=110233 groups=110233,34244(hep) 
context=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023



So it should be fine in terms of uids.

-Chris

Re: Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

I appears that you succesfully logged in via GDM the second time, but I
assume that you weren't able to get in.

If you're talking about this:

Jun  8 13:30:12 heplw44 pam: gdm-password[7591]: 
pam_unix(gdm-password:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 
euid=0 tty=:0 ruser= rhost=  user=ctooley
Jun  8 13:30:12 heplw44 pam: gdm-password[7591]: 
pam_sss(gdm-password:auth): authentication success; logname= uid=0 
euid=0 tty=:0 ruser= rhost= user=ctooley


The second time is sssd confirming my login credentials via LDAP - at 
least, that's what it should be doing - my nsswitch.conf uses "files 
sss" for users and groups.


I figured it would be something to do with

Jun  8 13:30:12 heplw44 polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered 
Authentication Agent for session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session32 
(system bus name :1.199, object path 
/org/gnome/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8) 
(disconnected from bus)


But I haven't a clue if this would be something that's supposed to fail 
gracefully or not.



When that happens to one of my users, the first thing I look at is their
home area.
Make sure it exists, make sure it's read/write for that user on login,
and make sure the file system for their home area isn't full (overquota
or something like that.)


All permissions are correct for this user, I even made sure that the 
quota was OK, there doesn't appear to be any problems there.


-Chris

Login fails in GDM, SL 6rolling

[Chris Tooley]

gdm-simple-greeter[5158]: Gtk-WARNING: gtkwidget.c:5460: widget not 
within a GtkWindow
Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message 
with a timestamp of 0 for 0x1e0002b (Login Wind)
Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 
timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed.



---
cat /var/log/gdm/\:0-slave.log.1
---
pam: gdm-password[4892]: pam_unix(gdm-password:auth): authentication 
failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=:0 ruser= rhost=  user=ctooley
pam: gdm-password[4892]: pam_sss(gdm-password:auth): authentication 
success; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=:0 ruser= rhost= user=ctooley
pam: gdm-password[4892]: pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session opened 
for user ctooley by (uid=0)
pam: gdm-password[4892]: pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session closed 
for user ctooley



These were the only files in /var/log modified at the same time as an 
attempted login with GDM. (the excerpts are the only entries at the same 
time)


Can anyone direct me to some way of diagnosing this? I see a number of 
warnings and errors but searching google doesn't seem to return anything 
propitious...


-Chris Tooley

Re: app, repro.

[Chris Tooley]

Hello,

RPMforge usually has these sorts of packages - there should be a file in 
/etc/yum.repos.d/.  If not, try running:


yum install rpmforge-release

But, why are you using bleeding edge packages in an enterprise-level 
linux system?  From personal experience, attempting to get any sort of 
bleeding edge desktop experience from an enterprise-level linux is an 
utter annoyance. ;)


Perhaps a desktop-oriented system would be a better choice? (Fedora, or 
Linux Mint)


-Chris

On 11-06-08 10:31 AM, Out of Nowhere wrote:

Hello! I have installed scientific linux, but I see some applications
are missing, like deluge, firefox 4, and other bleeding edge packages.
What repros should I add for installing them?

Re: SSSD ver. 1.5.x??

[Chris Tooley]

Thanks!

If I do this, will that mean I will need to switch *back* to 6.1 at a 
future date, or will it consistently be 6rolling, ala a test branch?


On 11-06-02 1:04 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:

rpm -Uvh
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6rolling/x86_64/os/Packages/sl-release-6.1-0.1.rolling.x86_64.rpm

SSSD ver. 1.5.x??

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I need sssd 1.5.x and 6.1 is supposed to have it.

Unfortunately, it's not released yet, and trying to install sssd 1.5.x 
from 6rolling gives me a whole whackload of dependencies.. I figure it's 
best to just upgrade the system - is there any reason I should not 
upgrade to 6rolling?  Is there an accepted way of upgrading to 6rolling?


Thanks for the help!
-Chris

Re: SSSD, LDAP, and non-standard homedirectories

[Chris Tooley]

So!

New question, hopefully someone out there will know the answer:
I have a posix group located in LDAP ala:

cn=groupname,ou=LAB,dc=domain,dc=ca

Which contains a memberUid attribute with several uid values.

I am attempting to get sssd to associate these uids in the group with
the uid upon login.  So far I am unsuccessful (id only returns the gid
in the user account)

Users are located in
ou=people,dc=domain,dc=ca
and they have a number of different objectClasses, one of which is
posixAccount

Any ideas?  I am going to ask this on the SSSD-devel list too but I
figured everyone here is so knowledgeable and nice, there might be a
kind person who has this knowledge already and might help me :)

-Chris


On 11-05-31 4:31 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:

To answer my own question:

There are examples in sssd.conf that work, I had mistakenly assumed the
attributes to which I wanted to map were already present in the LDAP
user entry (labHomeDirectory, labShadowExpire), which they weren't -
thus I was assuming I was using the examples incorrectly - making sure
that I have values and the actual attributes sssd works correctly :)

Sorry for the chaff!

-Chris

On 11-05-31 11:28 AM, Chris Tooley wrote:

Hello all,

I am using SL6 on a new machine I've setup, and it's using SSSD, apparently.

Originally, when I was just using a plane-jane ldap.conf file and ldap
with pam, I could specify:

nss_map_attribute   homeDirectory   labHomeDirectory
nss_map_attribute   shadowExpirelabShadowExpire

Suffice it to say, I need to implement these values, and I am completely
unfamiliar with SSSD.  Can someone give me a pointer to some
documentation on this daemon, particularly as it relates to LDAP, or,
should I just disable SSSD and continue to use my old methods...?

Is there something I'm missing in SSSD config somewhere which would
allow me to map attributes like the above?

Thanks,
~Chris

Re: SSSD, LDAP, and non-standard homedirectories

[Chris Tooley]

To answer my own question:

There are examples in sssd.conf that work, I had mistakenly assumed the 
attributes to which I wanted to map were already present in the LDAP 
user entry (labHomeDirectory, labShadowExpire), which they weren't - 
thus I was assuming I was using the examples incorrectly - making sure 
that I have values and the actual attributes sssd works correctly :)


Sorry for the chaff!

-Chris

On 11-05-31 11:28 AM, Chris Tooley wrote:

Hello all,

I am using SL6 on a new machine I've setup, and it's using SSSD, apparently.

Originally, when I was just using a plane-jane ldap.conf file and ldap
with pam, I could specify:

nss_map_attribute   homeDirectory   labHomeDirectory
nss_map_attribute   shadowExpirelabShadowExpire

Suffice it to say, I need to implement these values, and I am completely
unfamiliar with SSSD.  Can someone give me a pointer to some
documentation on this daemon, particularly as it relates to LDAP, or,
should I just disable SSSD and continue to use my old methods...?

Is there something I'm missing in SSSD config somewhere which would
allow me to map attributes like the above?

Thanks,
~Chris

SSSD, LDAP, and non-standard homedirectories

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I am using SL6 on a new machine I've setup, and it's using SSSD, apparently.

Originally, when I was just using a plane-jane ldap.conf file and ldap 
with pam, I could specify:


nss_map_attribute   homeDirectory   labHomeDirectory
nss_map_attribute   shadowExpirelabShadowExpire

Suffice it to say, I need to implement these values, and I am completely 
unfamiliar with SSSD.  Can someone give me a pointer to some 
documentation on this daemon, particularly as it relates to LDAP, or, 
should I just disable SSSD and continue to use my old methods...?


Is there something I'm missing in SSSD config somewhere which would 
allow me to map attributes like the above?


Thanks,
~Chris

Re: Problems with VMWare tools

[Chris Tooley]

I respect your opinion about virtualbox Chris, but virtualbox best than
vmware?? Absolutely not. It's free, yes but is worst in most aspects
than vmware.


Please note I said "as good if not better".  In my experience with 
vmware and virtualbox, I have had more issues with vmware than with 
virtualbox.  Again, YMMV - and clearly you've had better experience with 
vmware than virtualbox - that's cool with me :)



For example, under vmware you can run ANY operating system that runs on
i386 platforms with more performance than virtualbox (included
unsupported operated systems), with virtualbox not.


Mac OSX runs on vmware now? ;) I joke!

Well, as for compatibility with guest OSes:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes

It's not a whole lot of systems that don't run on VirtualBox. Generally 
I use VirtualBox for windows XP and linux systems I wish to try out for 
curiosity's sake.  For these purposes, virtualbox works amazingly well 
for free software :)


 Also, I would think performance is a moot point when it comes to 
Virtual Machines, particularly if you are using something like 
virtualbox (or whatever vmware's equivalent is.. vmware player?).



And about using USB passthrought and 3D support. I don't know which type
of problems do you have got with vmware, but I have a Windows 7
installed with this feautures and it is fast and simple to configure
under vmware.


I'm not doubting it is. :)  I simply wanted to give voice to an open 
source alternative to vmware.


-Chris

Re: Problems with VMWare tools

[Chris Tooley]

Just thought I would voice my support for VirtualBox over vmware. Feel 
free to ignore this email if you're set on VMware :)


However, I've found virtualbox to be just as good if not better, and 
it's completely free.  Although, Virtualbox is currently owned by oracle 
now, but hopefully it remains free.  There is USB passthrough as well as 
3D rendering if your host machine supports it - and I don't get annoyed 
with it as much as I do vmware.


-Chris

On 11-04-29 6:55 AM, Larry Linder wrote:

Down load their evaluation set or just buy it and load it.
Works perfectly from their web site.
Larry Linder

On Friday 29 April 2011 3:50 am, Ahmed El Zein wrote:

On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 19:44 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Lukas Press

wrote:

On 04/09/2011 11:34 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

2011/4/9 Nikola Wenta:

Dear all,
I am trying Scientific Linux and want to get VMWare tools installed.
Can someone tell me where I can download the required Kernel C header
files, and under what path they will be installed?
Cheers,
Niko


kernel-headers and kernel-devel packages, both available in sl repos.
The install script will complain that the path to the c header files
are wrong if you install the header files midway through the process,
even if you put the correct path in (/usr/include i think?).  If this
is happening cancel the install and re-run the vmware-install.pl script
after installing the correct packages; it should pick up the header
files automatically then.

Regards
Chris


There's also a bit of nastiness when you update kernels: VMWare has
not selected to incorporate the 'vmware-modules' init script I sent
them, that re-runs the VMware configuration at boot time in case
you're running a new kernel. This is particularly dangerous if you're
using the vmxnet network drivers rather than e1000: the guest host
will be unavailable after a kernel upgrade and reboot until the
configuration tool is re-run, and if you have the wrong network setup,
your hostname will be wrong and you'll have to reboot *AGAIN*. to get
all your services configured correctly.


If you are using ESX (as I am), then you might want to look at the
repository at:
http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/index.html

This way you get automatic updates when you upgrade the kernel.

Re: SL6 site/spin building

[Chris Tooley]

2 - You can make the Install DVD so that it will force the installer to
use your kickstart file.  That way they will get the same set of
packages that you selected for them.


I was also thinking this, as far as I know, you can actually have 
scripts run from this can you not?  I am not entirely familiar with 
kickstart but I have used it a number of occasions and it made multiple 
installations AMAZINGLY easy.


-Chris

Re: What kins of business use Linux?

[Chris Tooley]

Don't forget to include "scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov" 
 in reply-to ;)


-Chris

On 11-04-26 2:23 PM, Jason Bronner wrote:

what chris said. anything that consumes data is going to benefit from
linux on the backend whether it be network attached storage or stupid
mysql boxes you can just cable onto the router. they dont go down,
they don't crash, and they're dirt cheap to piece together RAID
backpanes in cases, slap linux on, and use for any form of a data dump
somewhere on your production network. ill occasionally prostitute
myself making multi terabyte NAS units for home theatre installations,
and dropping linux on them in terms delivering a low cost unit makes
them very attractive.

On 4/26/11, Chris Tooley  wrote:

On 11-04-18 10:20 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:

This may seems like a weird question, when I am sifting
through my lists of businesses, does anyone have an tips
as to what kinds of businesses prefer Linux? I would
like to directly target those kinds of businesses
before settling from more Windows work.


In my experience, a lot of online advertising companies use Linux - but
I don't recommend working for them unless you like feeling slimy at the
end of the day.  I've also had a lot of experience with Linux in the
scientific community. Perhaps there are some research-based operations
local to you? I know a lot of grid computing is using Linux almost
exclusively.

I would probably start concentrating heavily on services over a network
though. The whole world is going to be connected and being able to serve
them information or media reliably and robustly would be a boon to your
potential clients :) (load balancing, backup, storage, security,&tc.)

Pretty much everyone is going to need a server for their data and being
able to provide them that service is a good thing IMO.

-Chris

Re: What kins of business use Linux?

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-04-18 10:20 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:

This may seems like a weird question, when I am sifting
through my lists of businesses, does anyone have an tips
as to what kinds of businesses prefer Linux? I would
like to directly target those kinds of businesses
before settling from more Windows work.


In my experience, a lot of online advertising companies use Linux - but 
I don't recommend working for them unless you like feeling slimy at the 
end of the day.  I've also had a lot of experience with Linux in the 
scientific community. Perhaps there are some research-based operations 
local to you? I know a lot of grid computing is using Linux almost 
exclusively.


I would probably start concentrating heavily on services over a network 
though. The whole world is going to be connected and being able to serve 
them information or media reliably and robustly would be a boon to your 
potential clients :) (load balancing, backup, storage, security, &tc.)


Pretty much everyone is going to need a server for their data and being 
able to provide them that service is a good thing IMO.


-Chris

Intel 82579 Gbit LAN chipsets

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I am wondering whether the Intel 82579 Gbit LAN chipsets are supported 
natively by any packages or the kernel, or whether I have to install a 
newer driver?


Thanks,
~Chris Tooley

Re: Firefox 4 - apology

[Chris Tooley]

Perhaps I need another piece of code which automatically holds
any email sent after midnight until I've confirmed it 8 hours
later.  That would help with sleep-deprived oropedal insertion,
and might be helpful for security, too.

Keith


I think gmail has something like that :D

-Chris

Gmail Filtration

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-03-25 2:38 PM, Brett Viren wrote:

William Scott  writes:


How do you people filter mailing list messages?


Procmail.  For this and other FNAL lists I use this recipe:

:0
* ^Sender: .*@listserv.fnal.gov
* ^Sender: owner-\/[^@]+
$MAILDIR/.fnal.lists.$MATCH/

-Brett.



With gmail though, you can specify to "filter messages like these" and 
then you can test the filter - I usually just skip the inbox and apply a 
label, which allows the non-list stuff to show up in my inbox and leaves 
the list stuff for later perusing if I so wish.


-Chris

GDM theme

[Chris Tooley]

Ok, this is a really stupid question:

How do I change the theme for GDM in SL6?

Thanks,
-Chris

security repo failing download?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello,

Trying a completely new install of Scienficiclinux 6 from netboot, using 
ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6x/x86_64/os as the url source, 
and selecting sl-security as one of the repo sources - I get this error:


"Unable to read package metadata. This may be due to a missing repodata 
directory.  Please ensure that your install tree has been correctly 
generated.


failure: repodata/filelists.sqlite.bz2 from sl-security: [Errno 256] No 
more mirrors to try."


It then gives me the option to "Exit Installer" or "Retry".  Clicking on 
Retry gave the same error.


I have successfully installed without selecting sl-security as a repo 
source for install.


Thanks,
Chris

lapack and numpy

[Chris Tooley]

In case anyone else needs help on solving this in the future, this is a 
solution to my problem when I have python2.7 altinstalled, 
matplotlib-1.0.0, ipython, and numpy installed using pip-2.7.


I was getting this error:
"NameError: global name 'lapack_lite' is not defined"

when using ipython -pylab then plotting something.

SOLUTION:
install lapack-devel and reinstall numpy using pip-2.7 ala:

> pip-2.7 install numpy

It should then download the latest version from pypi and compile and 
install it properly.


Now, normally I would just use things in the repos in order to make it 
easier for me but one of my users requested a version of matplotlib and 
PyQt among other things that were not included in SL5 repos.

Re: SL 5.5 Luks & losetup

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-02-08 3:42 PM, g wrote:

hi ray,

i appreciate your consideration by sending post to me and cc: to
scientific linux.

but really, do you not think i wold see your post without sending to
directly to me?


We receive emails as CC to scientific linux and a From: sender> field.  "Reply to all" is best, as it sends to everyone on the 
list - especially if you have an answer, this way everyone finds out. 
Generally I remove the "To:" field when I'm responding, but some people 
might not, I wouldn't take any offense at it :)



FYI, the CentOS wiki has a pretty good page on dm-crypt plus LUKS:

   http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/EncryptedFilesystem


may be so. but i do not have anything to do with centos, which is why
i use scientific linux. ;)


CentOS and Scientific Linux are both RHEL based - generally, if you find 
something about packages for CentOS it's applicable to SL.


-Chris

Re: HPLIP v.2.8.10 [SOLVED]

[Chris Tooley]

On 11-02-08 6:13 AM, Mark Stodola wrote:

Alan Bartlett wrote:

On 8 February 2011 03:21, Chris Tooley  wrote:



I am attempting to get an HP Color LaserJet cp2025dn installed on some SL5
systems.

Firstly, if anyone has any experience getting these up and running I would
be grateful for some hints or help :)

Anyway, according to here:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/color_laserjet/hp_color_laserjet_cp2025dn.html

I need to have HPLIP 2.8.10 or greater installed - which seems to pan out as
I have tried to get a PPD from a newer ubuntu system to work with SL5 and it
has issues with a foomatic script - which implies to me that a PPD alone
won't work.

As far as I can see, HPLIP in the repos is version 1.6.7 - is there a repo
out there that has a newer version?



Scott Robbins has an page [1] titled "Installing HPLIP 3.10.6 on
CentOS 5.3" that might be worth a read.

Alan.

[1] http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/hplip.html


This might be of help:
http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-HP_Color_Laserjet_CP2025dn
It looks like it is supported by the "older" HPIJS.  You probably won't
get all of the advanced features it may have, but it will print.  The
package is called "hpijs" in SL5.

If that fails, try some of the generic PCL drivers or even Postscript.

Cheers,
Mark



To Follow up, the PPD located at openprinting.org worked fantastically 
with the current CUPS (I also have hpijs installed).


I have printed a test page and a couple of pages from a website and it 
looks like it's working flawlessly.


Thanks for the help everyone!
-Chris

HPLIP v.2.8.10

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all

I am attempting to get an HP Color LaserJet cp2025dn installed on some 
SL5 systems.


Firstly, if anyone has any experience getting these up and running I 
would be grateful for some hints or help :)


Anyway, according to here:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/color_laserjet/hp_color_laserjet_cp2025dn.html

I need to have HPLIP 2.8.10 or greater installed - which seems to pan 
out as I have tried to get a PPD from a newer ubuntu system to work with 
SL5 and it has issues with a foomatic script - which implies to me that 
a PPD alone won't work.


As far as I can see, HPLIP in the repos is version 1.6.7 - is there a 
repo out there that has a newer version?


Or, barring that, has anyone got a different PPD to work with this 
printer and SL5?


Thank you!
-Chris

Migrating from EL3 to SL5

[Chris Tooley]

Small question,

Ok, I just found an OLD machine, which has EL3 on it - has anyone ever 
successfully migrated from EL3 to SL5?  (I can probably wipe it too, but 
I was interested if I could do this)


Thanks,
-Chris

Re: php & mysql - working

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-12-02 11:59 AM, Larry Linder wrote:

used "yum install  php php-mysql"
Got new update on php and php-mysql.
php-mysql functions now work!

My old paranoia is still there about upgrades.
Famous last words - "totally transparent to the user"

Finally becoming a believer in "yum"

Thank You
Larry Linder



You can also find out what sort of options have been compiled into PHP 
by creating a php page on your webserver that calls "phpinfo()"


i.e. copy and paste the below into a .php file and load it up in your 
browser to see what you've got :)


---

---

Lots of good useful information in there.

-Chris

mirroring via FTP

[Chris Tooley]

I noticed on the scientific linux page here:
https://www.scientificlinux.org/download/mirroring/mirror.ftp

The lftp config files have:
open ftp.scientificlinux.org:/linux/scientific/4x

Is this a typo?  It seems to conflict with what I can understand of the 
config files..?


-Chris Tooley

Re: SVG versions of SL Logo

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-09-08 6:53 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:

Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Troy Dawson wrote:


Hello,
There had been some problems downloading the SVG version of the new
Scientific Linux logo off www.scientificlinux.org.
I was never able to fix that problem, so I have created a graphics directory
in the scientific section of our distribution servers, and uploaded all of
the scientific linux graphics to it (not just the SVG files)

http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/graphics/

I have updated the various web pages on www.scientificlinux.org to point here
when you need to download a SVG file.


I see that the SVG logo is available in a range of sizes.

Have I misunderstood - I thought that the "S" stood for scalable ?



It does, and they are scalable.
All I did was save the scaled SVG's as I was making the other graphics.
   So you can take whichever one you want and scale it from there.  Of if
one is the size you want, you don't have to worry about scaling it.
Troy


As an semi-related addendum, some logo creators create different 
versions of the icon for smaller sizes, as the full size logo looks much 
worse when scaled unless you modify the logo for smaller sizes.


-Chris

Re: SL5 installation on AMD processor

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-07-13 1:00 PM, Rhykie Ron wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to install SL5 on my laptop with AMD processor but the
installation completes with just one  DVD installation disc1 without
requiring the second disc2. This results with the system programs crashin
g
and annoying sounds.
So is SL5 supported in AMD-based laptops? Suggestions!!

cheers


In my experience, the second DVD is for non-english languages and 
Clustering. If you didn't select any other languages other than the 
default installed and didn't opt to install clustering software 
packages, then you wouldn't need the second DVD (as far as I know anyway 
- I typically haven't needed the second DVD myself for plain desktop 
installations)


AMD chipsets should be fully supported.

The "system programs crashing and annoying sounds" may be something else 
entirely - of which there are many different possibilities.


Are you able to log into the machine and run some programs? Does the OS 
crash? What exactly is crashing?


A bit more details as to when or what crashes, preferably with some 
error messages if possible would be great for the community to be able 
to diagnose any issues :)


-Chris

Re: A problem when using ssh to sl-linux system

[Chris Tooley]

> Jun 8 18:07:56 eib199dhcp180 sshd[5789]: pam_krb5[5789]: authentication 
> fails for 'lfq' (l...@fnal.gov ): Authentication 
> service cannot retrieve authentication info (Cannot contact any KDC for 
> requested realm)

This means that your computer can't get any sort of credentials from
your kerberos server. Can you log into this computer from a physical
terminal at the machine with the same username and password?

If you can, make sure that SSH is using PAM (looks like it already is
but check just in case) you can do this by having the following line in
your /etc/ssh/sshd_config

UsePAM yes


If you can't log into your machine at a physical terminal, then there
are a couple of things you need to make sure of:

1) Is your time different on the kerberos server than on your computer?
2) Is your username and password correct and does kerberos know that?
3) Is your computer actually connecting to the kerberos server properly?

(Check your client settings in /etc/krb5.conf)

Most of these questions can be answered by your systems administrator. :)

If you _are_ the systems administrator, search for "lfq" in
"/var/log/krb5kdc.log" - you may get something out of that. (although I
never seem to have much luck with that myself)

Most problems I've encountered are when the server and client time are
mismatched by about an hour.

Hope this helps!
-Chris

Re: Documents about...

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-05-10 10:03 AM, Pablo Cavero wrote:

Dear Isaac,

in the follow links:

http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation

http://www.scientificlinux.org

You can find any thing about the SCientific Linux, and like a second
idea, do you speak spanish??
If you speak spanish you can tell me any question, because am from Chile.

See U,

P.Cavero


2010/5/10 Isaac Cortés mailto:isaac18...@gmail.com>>

I'd like to know if there is pdfs or something like that about this
great OS




Also, depending upon what sort of documentation you may be looking for, 
you can check out the CentOS wikis and any Red Hat enterprise linux 
documentation you can find.


-Chris

Re: Package file nautilus-extensions.pc

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-05-04 11:55 PM, Andrey Y. Shevel wrote:

Hello all,

during installation on my desktop the package dropbox (dropbox.com) I got
the message after ./configure

==
checking for NAUTILUS... configure: error: Package requirements
(libnautilus-extension>= 2.16.0) were not met:

No package 'libnautilus-extension' found
==

At the same time I see

==
[r...@csd2 nautilus-dropbox-0.6.2]# rpm -qa | grep nautilus-ext
nautilus-extensions-2.16.2-7.el5
=

On other hand, yes, in the directory /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ I did not find
any package description with the substring "nautilus"


[r...@csd2 nautilus-dropbox-0.6.2]# grep nautilus /usr/lib/pkgconfig/*
[r...@csd2 nautilus-dropbox-0.6.2]#
===

Can somebody explain why not all packages have the description ?

And how to bypass the problem with installation from source ?

Many thanks in advance,

Andrey



If you're compiling dropbox (i.e. installing from source), you need to 
make sure you have the right development files installed. In this case 
it would be nautilus-devel:



yum install nautilus-devel


Try installing that and then see if dropbox compiles.

On the other hand, looking dag's repo I can see that there is a dropbox 
package available.. perhaps you might wish to install that instead?



yum --enablerepo=dag install dropbox


-Chris

Re: New Computer purchase, what parts?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello again all, thank you for your replies, it's very helpful!

However, it turns out that the request for me was stated incorrectly, 
they wanted a dual core system, and instead requested a "dual cpu" 
system. D'oh!


Anyway, the floodgates' open now, I would rather actually go with a core 
i5 or i7, but of course one thing is still the same, I need to have SL 
5x on it.


I've previously had the Asus P5Q and had to install the NIC driver 
manually, which is a pain in the butt to say the least.


Is there a hardware compatibility list for SL 5.4 out there somewhere? 
Any more suggestions on hardware?


Thanks again!
-Chris Tooley

New Computer purchase, what parts?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I've been tasked with purchasing a computer with 2 processors at least 
(not just multicore) has anyone experience with hardware that works 
flawlessly with SL 5?  I'm leaning towards Intel processors - would I 
only be looking for Xeon or are there core i7 dual processor 
motherboards out there too?  This will be a desktop/research machine - 
so servers are not exactly what I'm looking for.


Of course I'm also searching around already but I was wondering if 
anyone had any suggestions from which I could start.


Thank you!
-Chris Tooley

NFS + pam_mkhomedir

[Chris Tooley]

Hello All,

I have a rather interesting problem that someone on this list may have 
encountered before.


Basically, we have users in LDAP/kerberos, with NFS automounted home 
directories.


What I currently do when we get a new user is add them into LDAP, 
kerberos, and then I manually (well, scripted) create a home directory 
with the username/uid/gid on the NFS server.


A user can then log onto any one of our lab machines, retaining their 
home directory and work no matter which machine they log into.


What I would like to do is cut out the home directory creation step and 
have that done for me automatically.


i.e. I add the new user to LDAP and Kerberos, then just tell them to 
login - their home directory gets created on first login.


I see that there is a PAM module for creation of local home directories, 
pam_mkhomedir - can this be used to create directories across an NFS 
implementation? Is that secure/recommended?  Is there a better method?


Thanks!
~Chris Tooley

Re: install gcc

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-03-22 11:30 AM, Dana Stratton Ford wrote:
> SL Community:
>
> Hello I am relatively new to the linux community however I just
> congifured SL 5.4 x86 on my laptop. I am now trying to install the
> gcc4 compiler and was wondering how I go about doing that. I
> understand it is distributed with the SL5 release however I am having
> difficultly locating/installing the compiler. Does anyone know
> where/how I can do this, or possibly read more information about it.
> Thank you.


A good way to discover applications you're looking for is with yum.

For instance, a quick
---
yum search gcc
---
returns a (semi) large list of packages that may or may not be 
completely associated with what you're looking for, but on one of my SL 
5.4 systems, I get possibly a good candidate:


---
gcc.x86_64 : Various compilers (C, C++, Objective-C, Java, ...)
---
(of course, yours will be i386, not .x86_64)

You can also look for specific commands with the "yum provides" command, 
ala:

---
yum provides /usr/bin/gcc
---

Which gives me a number of RPM packages that provide what I'm looking 
for (if you don't know the exact location of the command you can check 
out the man pages of yum and look for information on provides). 
(/usr/*/gcc works I think)


Post more questions if you've got em :)

Hope this helps!
-Chris Tooley

Re: RHEL4 -> SL4 conversion howto?

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-03-17 2:44 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:

Hi,
This question comes up every year or two.  We haven't made it into a web
page because we don't want to make it look like we are trying to take
away RedHat's business.

Updating from RHEL5 to SL5 is easier than it is to update from RHEL4 to
SL4.  This is because RHEL5 has yum, while RHEL4 is using up2date.

I *believe* the easiest way would be to change up2date to point to
scientific linux, and then use it to install yum and the first updates.

1 - Edit /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources and comment out the line
up2date default
and add the lines
yum fermi-base
http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/4x/$ARCH/SL/RPMS/
yum fermi-errata
http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/4x/$ARCH/errata/SL/RPMS/

2 - Install yum using up2date
up2date install yum
up2date install yum-conf

3 - install sl-release using yum
yum install sl-release

4 - Update everything else
yum update

You may run into problems with this, but I currently don't have the
infrastructure to test this out, so I am not sure what problems you will
run into.  But that is the general idea.  Get yum on the system, then
update sl-release, and then update everything else.

Troy


For the most part, the above instructions worked perfectly - save for 
up2date complaining about GPG signatures. I added --nosig and it worked 
great (livin on the edge!).. How would I have installed the gpg signature?


Also, do you mind if I publish these instructions on the web? (I can 
give credit, or not - depending upon what you prefer).. I know you don't 
want it to look like you're trying to cannabalize RHEL but this helps 
smaller vendors or university groups who don't have the resources for a 
full RHEL support license.


Also, thank you kindly for all the work you do on SL!

Thanks,
~Chris

RHEL4 -> SL4 conversion howto?

[Chris Tooley]

Forgive me if this has been answered before, but is there a page 
detailing how to convert a TUVL4 system to SL4?


Thanks,
~Chris

Re: NFS partially works!!

[Chris Tooley]

On 10-02-16 9:49 AM, Genie Jhang wrote:

I solved it with little cheat.

It looks like skipping the first line of nfs mount part of fstab file.

I simply added two same lines as

192.168.0.109:/data /data   nfs
tcp,soft,bg,intr,ro 0 0
192.168.0.109:/data /data   nfs
tcp,soft,bg,intr,ro 0 0
192.168.0.109:/home /home   nfs
tcp,soft,bg,intr,rw 0 0

so that if it skips one line, it should do the the same line next. haha

Thanks for all!!

Have a nice day or night all around the world.


In what editor are you editing the fstab? Perhaps it's adding an 
invisible character to the beginning of the file which could invalidate 
the first line...?


Is that the exact fstab you're using (i.e. the first line is the first 
line? Are there comments before that? I find it really strange that one 
line would work and the other wouldn't - there must be something strange 
with the file itself.


-Chris

xcalc still available?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I got a request by a user to install xcalc, is it still available, or 
has it been deprecated in favour of another application?


Thanks,
~Chris

Re: changing login/default shell

[Chris Tooley]

$ lchsh username
Password:
Changing shell for username.
Error initializing libuser: not executing with superuser privileges.


Have you tried running this command as root?

-Chris

Re: Switch from centos 4 to SL4?

[Chris Tooley]

Hi All, first of all, thanks for the help.

If you just want to switch a running system, I *think* this would be all 
you need to do.


1 - Point Yum to look at SL yum repositories
1a - rm -f /etc/yum.repos.d/*repo
(a bit drastic, but if you want to go slow, just move everything)
1b (SL4) - rpm -Uvh 
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/4x/i386/misc/RPMS/yum-conf-latest.SL.noarch.rpm 


Done.


2 - Replace the following packages:
yum (from centos) -> yum (from SL)
centos-release -> sl-release
centos-release-notes -> sl-release-notes (SL5 Only)


I cannot seem to install yum: I get dependency errors:

# rpm -i yum-2.4.3-10.SL.noarch.rpm
warning: yum-2.4.3-10.SL.noarch.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 
82fd17b2

error: Failed dependencies:
python-elementtree is needed by yum-2.4.3-10.SL
urlgrabber is needed by yum-2.4.3-10.SL

So I attempt to follow the dependency trail, and end up stalled at:

# rpm -i yum-2.4.3-10.SL.noarch.rpm python-2.3.4-14.7.el4.i386.rpm 
python-elementtree-1.2.6-4.i386.rpm urlgrabber-2.9.6-1.noarch.rpm
warning: yum-2.4.3-10.SL.noarch.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 
82fd17b2
warning: python-elementtree-1.2.6-4.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, 
key ID a7048f8d

error: Failed dependencies:
libdb-4.2.so is needed by python-2.3.4-14.7.el4

As far as I can tell, libdb-4.2 is provided by the package compat-db in 
SL5, however, the latest version in SL4 is < 4.2... (I am attempting to 
convert to SL4) Am I missing something here?


Previously I had converted this system from EL4 to Centos4 - might this 
have something to do with it?


Thanks again!
-Chris

Re: Switch from centos 4 to SL4?

[Chris Tooley]

Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:

Hello

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Chris Tooley  wrote:

Hello All,

My google foo is apparently not good enough to find a page that might
describe the process of switching from centos4 to SL4.. Does anyone know of
a good HOWTO or tutorial about this?


Could you please be a little more precise. Do you want to use the SL
packages and leave the base (difficult) or do you want to reinstall?
Changing a running system could be quite hard.

Cheers Didi


Hi!

I would like it to identify as Scientific Linux, and use the Scientific 
Linux repos for regular updates - reinstall sounds like I may have to 
burn an ISO...?


Thanks,
-Chris

Switch from centos 4 to SL4?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello All,

My google foo is apparently not good enough to find a page that might 
describe the process of switching from centos4 to SL4.. Does anyone know 
of a good HOWTO or tutorial about this?


Thanks,
~Chris

Re: Last nite's update

[Chris Tooley]

P. Larry Nelson wrote:

Troy Dawson wrote on 11/12/2009 1:43 PM:

OK, just shows that no matter how well you test something, you never
know until it goes live.
Well, I'll pull the cups update out of the repo's, and leave the rpm
part in.  I'll make a note to push cups out in a couple weeks.
Sorry about that.
Troy


No prob.  But I am curious about this 'yum-complete-transaction' command
that's mentioned in the 5.x version of the yum man page (not in 4.x)
but is not found as a command.

Thanks again!
- Larry



Doing a "yum search yum-complete-transaction" yields yum-utils:

$> yum info yum-utils
Loaded plugins: kernel-module
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Available Packages
Name   : yum-utils
Arch   : noarch
Version: 1.1.16
Release: 14.el5
Size   : 69 k
Repo   : sl-base
Summary: Utilities based around the yum package manager
URL: http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/
License: GPLv2+
Description: yum-utils is a collection of utilities and examples for the yum
   : package manager. It includes utilities by different 
authors that

   : make yum easier and more powerful to use. These tools include:
   : debuginfo-install, package-cleanup, repoclosure, repodiff,
   : repo-graph, repomanage, repoquery, repo-rss, reposync, 
repotrack,
   : verifytree, yum-builddep, yum-complete-transaction, 
yumdownloader,

   : yum-debug-dump and yum-groups-manager.

===

Hope that helps :)

-Chris

Re: Resolution and (default) packages?

[Chris Tooley]

Urs Beyerle wrote:

Hi Al,

Al Neumann wrote:

[...]
Just not really sure what SL has been doing...  i.e: Where are those real

scientific apps!!?
Somewhat dismayed at the use of "scientific" in current SL.
Al


I know that's confusing. And it's the most frequently ask question about
SL -> https://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/faq/general1

Q. Where are all the 'science' programs?
Q. Is Scientific Linux better for scientific applications?

A. This linux distribution is called Scientific Linux because it is made
by scientific labs, for scientific labs and universities. It is not
named Scientific Linux because it has the largest collection of
scientific programs. It was named back when it was small, and only the
scientific labs were using it.

Cheers,

Urs


Hello Al,

I would suggest enabling the dag repos to get some of the applications 
other distros have, including stellarium.


This can be accomplished by editing /etc/yum.repos.d/dag.repo, and changing
enabled=0
to
enabled=1

If you want to see what sorts of packages are in this repo before 
enabling, you can browse them online here:

http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages.php
or here:
ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/i386/dag/RPMS/
(the above URL won't contain any extra info on the packages, though)

These are packages maintained as extra for various EL-variants such as 
centOS and Scientific Linux.


Hope this makes your experience more akin to what you're used to!

-Chris

Re: Logo Contest for SL6 extended

[Chris Tooley]

Late to the game, feel free to ignore me if you want:


The Double helix needs a bit more definition and work to make it pop, 
and the fonts are hideous - but just thought I would get this idea out 
there for people.


-Chris
<>

PHP5 on SL4.8??

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all, minor little mini question,

Is it possible to install PHP5 alongside PHP4 on SL4.8, or, even at all?

Thanks,
~Chris Tooley

Re: Logo Contest for SL6 extended

[Chris Tooley]

Mark Stodola wrote:

Edward Dowllar wrote:
I do really like the designs that include the spinning electrons. But, there is something about Entry 1 that is very appealing for its use as a logo. Perhaps its appeal is its simplicity in design and potential broader use. Scientific pursuits encompass a wide variety of disciplines and some might interpret its use is only for physics. That's just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work. 


Edward
  
I agree.  Pulling on my small knowledge of graphic design, a good logo 
should be easily recognizable when printed in grayscale, b&w, and 
usually a 2 color palette.  I personally would lean toward the 1st entry 
because of that.  I think it could work better in cases of icons, 
letterhead, case badges, etc.  KISS.


On the flip side, it would be a major imaging change for SL from a 
recognition standpoint.


-Mark



I agree as well. I think the nucleus design is getting a bit old and 
from a design standpoint, it's recognizable, but tired and way too busy.


I will attempt to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak, by 
submitting a couple of designs myself :)


-Chris

Re: Logo Contest for SL6 extended

[Chris Tooley]

Patrick Moelands wrote:

2009/9/30 Troy Dawson :

I have put the entries up on a web page.

http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/graphics/logo.contest/


I can't see the page.
First I need to login onto the SL website and afterwards, I seem to
have "insufficient rights" to watch its content ...

Regards,
Patrick


I would also like to see this page and I don't think I've a user account...

-Chris

Xen and dual head with Nvidia card?

[Chris Tooley]

Hello,

I would like to get dual head working with my xen installation -- I have 
two monitors, and my video card supports it (works flawlessly with 
nvidia driver on vanilla kernel). I have an NVidia 9500GT.


[r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
Scientific Linux SL release 5.3 (Boron)
[r...@localhost ~]# uname -rmsrv
Linux 2.6.18-128.7.1.el5 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24 08:12:52 EDT 2009 x86_64
[r...@localhost ~]# lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT 
(rev a1)


I managed to get through the installation just fine, but when I restart 
gdm, (gdm-restart) I get no output from the video card and the computer 
is unresponsive - almost as if it crashes. I have to restart the 
computer to get it working.


I've tried to follow these instructions here:
http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-9724

Thanks,
-Chris Tooley

Re: Yum install; subversion on x86_64

[Chris Tooley]

Well as long as it's not something I've misconfigured I'm happy :) 
Thanks for your reply.


-Chris

Troy Dawson wrote:

Hi Chris,
This is a feature of yum in RHEL5 and SL5.
I just double checked to see if this was fixed with 5.4. Nope.
Why does it do that?
Because at some point yum and/or RedHat decided that would be the thing 
to do so developers would quit whining about not having their 32 bit 
libraries.
(Don't roll your eyes too much. There are plenty of developers/users 
here  on the scientific-linux-users list that have complained because 
their favorite 32 bit library wasn't installed by default on a 64 bit 
machine)
I have checked Fedora 11, and it only installs the arch that you are 
running, and it is almost the same version of yum that is in RHEL 5.4, 
so I'm thinking it is a feature put in by RedHat.


Could I track down and change yum so that it doesn't do this?  Yes.
Am I going to do it?  No.
Why?  Because that would change the functionality of yum on SL5.  This 
could unexpected results.  The one expected result that I don't want is 
that when someone does an x86_64 install, they would get different 
packages after the change than before the change.


How to really fix it?
First complain upstream to RedHat.  I do know that this was brought up 
to RedHat at the Summit when discussing RHEL 6.  If this feature makes 
it into the main RHEL, it will make it into SL.
If it is possible for there to be an easy fix so that we could make a 
SL_ rpm, that would be good.  But I personally will not dig through yum 
to find that fix, I just have too much other stuff to do.  But if 
someone has an easy fix, I wouldn't mind wrapping it into an SL_ rpm.


Thanks
Troy

Chris Tooley wrote:

Hello all,

It's me again with an annoying question.

When I try to install subversion on a 64bit machine with dag and 
sl-security repos enabled I get these sorts of results:

..
[r...@machine yum.repos.d]# uname -rm
2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 x86_64
[r...@machine yum.repos.d]# yum install subversion
Loaded plugins: kernel-module
sl-base 
 | 1.1 kB 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
 | 905 kB 00:00

sl-base3409/3409
dag 
 | 1.1 kB 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
 | 3.4 MB 00:01

dag9353/9353
sl-security 
 |  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
 | 234 kB 00:00

sl-security693/693
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package subversion.x86_64 0:1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package subversion.i386 0:1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Beginning Kernel Module Plugin
Finished Kernel Module Plugin

Dependencies Resolved

===
  Package ArchVersion 
  RepositorySize

===
Installing:
  subversion  x86_64  1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf 
  dag  6.8 M
  subversion  i3861.4.2-4.el5_3.1 
  sl-security  2.3 M


Transaction Summary
===
Install  2 Package(s)
Update   0 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

Total download size: 9.1 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Exiting on user Command
Complete!
..

Is there a reason why yum wants to install the i386 version of 
subversion on an x86_64 machine?  Have I misconfigured something somewhere?


contents of sl-security.repo:
..
[sl-security]
name=SL 5 security updates
baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security
 
http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security
 
ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security

#mirrorlist=ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/mirrorlist/sl-security-53.txt
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
# To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed
priority=10
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl5 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-csieh 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-dawson 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-jpolok 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/

Yum install; subversion on x86_64

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

It's me again with an annoying question.

When I try to install subversion on a 64bit machine with dag and 
sl-security repos enabled I get these sorts of results:

..
[r...@machine yum.repos.d]# uname -rm
2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 x86_64
[r...@machine yum.repos.d]# yum install subversion
Loaded plugins: kernel-module
sl-base 
| 1.1 kB 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
| 905 kB 00:00

sl-base3409/3409
dag 
| 1.1 kB 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
| 3.4 MB 00:01

dag9353/9353
sl-security 
|  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
| 234 kB 00:00

sl-security693/693
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package subversion.x86_64 0:1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package subversion.i386 0:1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Beginning Kernel Module Plugin
Finished Kernel Module Plugin

Dependencies Resolved

===
 Package ArchVersion 
 RepositorySize

===
Installing:
 subversion  x86_64  1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf 
 dag  6.8 M
 subversion  i3861.4.2-4.el5_3.1 
 sl-security  2.3 M


Transaction Summary
===
Install  2 Package(s)
Update   0 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

Total download size: 9.1 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Exiting on user Command
Complete!
..

Is there a reason why yum wants to install the i386 version of 
subversion on an x86_64 machine?  Have I misconfigured something somewhere?


contents of sl-security.repo:
..
[sl-security]
name=SL 5 security updates
baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security

http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security

ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security
#mirrorlist=ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/mirrorlist/sl-security-53.txt
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
# To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed
priority=10
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl5 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-csieh 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-dawson 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-jpolok 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-cern 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

..

contents of dag.repo:
..
[dag]
name=DAG rpms
baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag/

http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag/

ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag/
enabled=1
# To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed
priority=30
..

Please let me know if you need more information.  I can selectively 
install the x86_64 package by:

yum install subversion.x86_64
so it's OK in the end, but it seems kind of weird to me to install an 
i386 package in x86_64.


The same thing happens with xdelta too, but the i386 package is from 
sl-base instead of sl-security.


Thanks,
~Chris

Re: Fwd: Network driver

[Chris Tooley]

Chris Tooley wrote:

Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Chris Tooley  wrote:


Turns out there is a driver on the P5Q CD for an Atheros AR8121/AR8113
Ethernet Adapter.  I ran make && make install and it works!!

I think lspci was mistakenly identifying it...

If you need more information let me know what commands you'd like to see.

Could you follow the instructions on the Device ID page of the ELRepo site at:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/DeviceIDs

and show us the vendor:device ID pairing of your Ethernet device?

Akemi



Following those instructions I get these results:

[root@ ~]# lspci | grep -i Ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit 
Ethernet Adapter (rev b0)

[root@ ~]# lspci -n | grep '02:00.0'
02:00.0 0200: 1969:1026 (rev b0)

Looking it up on the list, it looks like I should have tried the atl1e 
controller.


This is interesting though, because the source code that I compiled to 
get the network working identified itself as an "Atheros(R) 
AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E Ethernet Adapter", and looking further into the 
README in the source directory it references "arl1e" several times.


Is this the same as the atl1e driver? I assume it's proprietary vs OSS.. :)

I'm going to uninstall the source compiled driver after I download the 
proper atl1e RPM and see if the atl1e RPM works. I will report back 
afterwards giving results.


Also, is "driver" the proper moniker to use in this case? Should I be 
saying "module"?  Just out of curiosity...


Thanks,
~Chris


The atl1e module works. Thanks for clearing this up for me!

-Chris

Re: Fwd: Network driver

[Chris Tooley]

Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Chris Tooley  wrote:


Turns out there is a driver on the P5Q CD for an Atheros AR8121/AR8113
Ethernet Adapter.  I ran make && make install and it works!!

I think lspci was mistakenly identifying it...

If you need more information let me know what commands you'd like to see.


Could you follow the instructions on the Device ID page of the ELRepo site at:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/DeviceIDs

and show us the vendor:device ID pairing of your Ethernet device?

Akemi



Following those instructions I get these results:

[root@ ~]# lspci | grep -i Ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit 
Ethernet Adapter (rev b0)

[root@ ~]# lspci -n | grep '02:00.0'
02:00.0 0200: 1969:1026 (rev b0)

Looking it up on the list, it looks like I should have tried the atl1e 
controller.


This is interesting though, because the source code that I compiled to 
get the network working identified itself as an "Atheros(R) 
AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E Ethernet Adapter", and looking further into the 
README in the source directory it references "arl1e" several times.


Is this the same as the atl1e driver? I assume it's proprietary vs OSS.. :)

I'm going to uninstall the source compiled driver after I download the 
proper atl1e RPM and see if the atl1e RPM works. I will report back 
afterwards giving results.


Also, is "driver" the proper moniker to use in this case? Should I be 
saying "module"?  Just out of curiosity...


Thanks,
~Chris

Re: Fwd: Network driver

[Chris Tooley]

Sorry to bring this up again, I've recently got a couple of computers 
with the Asus P5Q motherboard on it.


lspci -m | grep net returns:
02:00.0 "Ethernet controller" "Attansic Technology Corp." "L1 Gigabit 
Ethernet Adapter" -rb0 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc." "Unknown Device 8226"


uname -rm returns:
2.6.18-128.1.1.el15xen x86_64

I've installed 
http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/x86_64/RPMS/kmod-atl1-xen-1.2.40.3-2.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
from a USB thumbdrive and the light turns on in the RJ45 connector, but 
I think I'm missing a key step.  ifconfig doesn't return eth0 information...


So basically, I think I don't know how to initialize eth0...? Can 
someone put me on the right track?


Thanks ahead of time,
Chris


Turns out there is a driver on the P5Q CD for an Atheros AR8121/AR8113 
Ethernet Adapter.  I ran make && make install and it works!!


I think lspci was mistakenly identifying it...

If you need more information let me know what commands you'd like to see.

Thanks,
~Chris

Re: Fwd: Network driver

[Chris Tooley]

Thanks Alan.

 > I followed the steps that you given previously to the thread. Now am able to
 > access network.

 > http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=19920&forum=41
 > - Not able to access my notwork - Network device not recognized
 >
 > Browse the ElRepo site and download the kmod-atl1 rpm that matches your
 > kernel's type and arch. Then copy the file over to your box and issue:
 >
 > rpm -ivh kmod-atl1


That is excellent news. You have tracked down a recent CentOS forum
 thread that covers your issue exactly!  :-D

 Now all you need is for someone else to help you get your wireless
 connection to work. (I'm sorry, I won't be able to help with that -- I
 have no experience with wireless networking.)


 Alan.


Sorry to bring this up again, I've recently got a couple of computers 
with the Asus P5Q motherboard on it.


lspci -m | grep net returns:
02:00.0 "Ethernet controller" "Attansic Technology Corp." "L1 Gigabit 
Ethernet Adapter" -rb0 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc." "Unknown Device 8226"


uname -rm returns:
2.6.18-128.1.1.el15xen x86_64

I've installed 
http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/x86_64/RPMS/kmod-atl1-xen-1.2.40.3-2.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
from a USB thumbdrive and the light turns on in the RJ45 connector, but 
I think I'm missing a key step.  ifconfig doesn't return eth0 information...


So basically, I think I don't know how to initialize eth0...? Can 
someone put me on the right track?


Thanks ahead of time,
Chris

Re: Netbook for Scientific Linux

[Chris Tooley]

Thought I would give an update. (in case someone is curious or is 
hanging on my results)


We ended up actually finding a IBM X24 laptop that was not in use by 
another professor here and will be using that instead. Sorry for those 
who were wondering how it would turn out! I'll have to try it another 
day.. :\  We've got SL 5.3 installed from a netboot disk in case anyone 
was wondering :)


Thanks again for all your suggestions!
-Chris

Chris Tooley wrote:

Andy Mastbaum wrote:
Not the flagellate the subject any further, but it seems you'd want to 
put something minimal but with cutting-edge hardware support (i.e. 
netbook-specific)* on the netbook and SSH into the "real" 
computer/server that's running SL.


A typical netbook isn't (and shouldn't be!) a reasonable 
computation/analysis platform... it's a mobile client. Just because you 
can, doesn't mean you should?


Andy

*http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/download-netbook



Agreed, however, it would be mainly for familiarity purposes as well as 
to have a relatively newer g++ on a stable system for driving external 
hardware from the USB - this is not going to be used primarily as a 
desktop system (i.e. it'll be running quietly in a black box somewhere) 
and so we figured an EL would be a good way to go.  We decided on a 
netbook because we wanted to have a whole computer in a small package - 
including a display and keyboard for initial setup and transportation. 
Granted, we could have chosen a larger or smaller nettop with a monitor 
but then you have to cart 3 pieces of hardware (nettop, keyboard, 
monitor) instead of one. A netbook seems to me to be the best solution.


Ubuntu linux and Fedora are good distros, and we might go with one of 
them, but I would like to try out SL for Brads and giggles :) And hey, 
if it works, all the better right? :)


Thanks,
-Chris

Re: Netbook for Scientific Linux

[Chris Tooley]

Andy Mastbaum wrote:
Not the flagellate the subject any further, but it seems you'd want to 
put something minimal but with cutting-edge hardware support (i.e. 
netbook-specific)* on the netbook and SSH into the "real" 
computer/server that's running SL.


A typical netbook isn't (and shouldn't be!) a reasonable 
computation/analysis platform... it's a mobile client. Just because you 
can, doesn't mean you should?


Andy

*http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/download-netbook



Agreed, however, it would be mainly for familiarity purposes as well as 
to have a relatively newer g++ on a stable system for driving external 
hardware from the USB - this is not going to be used primarily as a 
desktop system (i.e. it'll be running quietly in a black box somewhere) 
and so we figured an EL would be a good way to go.  We decided on a 
netbook because we wanted to have a whole computer in a small package - 
including a display and keyboard for initial setup and transportation. 
Granted, we could have chosen a larger or smaller nettop with a monitor 
but then you have to cart 3 pieces of hardware (nettop, keyboard, 
monitor) instead of one. A netbook seems to me to be the best solution.


Ubuntu linux and Fedora are good distros, and we might go with one of 
them, but I would like to try out SL for Brads and giggles :) And hey, 
if it works, all the better right? :)


Thanks,
-Chris

Re: Netbook for Scientific Linux

[Chris Tooley]

Troy Dawson wrote:

Jon Peatfield wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Chris Tooley wrote:


Hello all,

I'm helping to do some research for coworker of mine, and I was wondering if 
anyone has tried to install SL on a netbook yet? And if so, what are your 
experiences?


We're currently looking at an HP Mini 110 as a possible option, and I know 
there is a "Mobile Internet" version which is built on linux, but is 
everything working on SL? I'd assume so, but I would like to have some 
confirmation...?


Are all netbooks pretty much a safe bet?
As with all laptops I'd be very dubious about it working with SL (or RHEL 
or any other 'enterprise' linux distribution).  These distributions are 
aimed at stability and hence are somewhat conservative about having the 
'latest' versions of software.  Our experience with all kinds of laptops 
(including various netbooks), is that to support the graphics chipsets and 
things like the networking and wireless you are often better off with a 
'leading edge' distribution - such as Fedora or Ubuntu.


We recently got a few S9e Lenovo netbooks (now sadly no longer available), 
and I was quite surprised that the Ubuntu 9.04 live image (PXE booted) 
supported pretty much all the hardware out-of-the-box.  Those particular 
netbooks came with Windows XP only and since they are only being used for 
note taking we have left them as-is...


  -- Jon


I haven't had too much luck with Scientific Linux, except SL 5.3, on 
netbooks.  But I have been able to use Fedora 11 on every one that I've 
come across thus far, and it's recognized everything on them and just 
worked.

Troy


Thanks for all your input everyone! I'll try out SL 5.3 first on 
whichever netbook we decide, then I'll let you know the results :)


Thanks again,
-Chris

Netbook for Scientific Linux

[Chris Tooley]

Hello all,

I'm helping to do some research for coworker of mine, and I was 
wondering if anyone has tried to install SL on a netbook yet? And if so, 
what are your experiences?


We're currently looking at an HP Mini 110 as a possible option, and I 
know there is a "Mobile Internet" version which is built on linux, but 
is everything working on SL? I'd assume so, but I would like to have 
some confirmation...?


Are all netbooks pretty much a safe bet?

Thanks!
-Chris

Re: Flashplayer 10 vs 9

[Chris Tooley]

Keith Lofstrom wrote:

Summary:  Flashplayer 10 sucks.  Use Flashplayer 9.

[... snippetty ...]

P.S.  The pesky animation is here:
http://server-sky.com/slides/bridge2009jun16_1024/aposkew_pretty_D_orbit.html
http://snurl.com/l3f7e
Time the white row crossing the centerline, 5 turns and divide by 5.



Hello Keith,

Well, I've written this email because I figured you hadn't already spent 
so much time with flash that you could conceivably switch technologies, 
but going through your slides I can see now that you've spent a lot of 
time and effort on flash. Here is a list of flash alternatives for 
posterity, and others who might be interested:


=
SVG - An interesting alternative, but people have to install a plugin on 
IE - and it's not quite as fast as flash in my experience.

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

Moonlight - Open source Silverlight implementation? Kinda scary to do 
anything in though, Microsoft has created silverlight.. Having said 
that, silverlight is supposed to be a competitor to flash.

http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/

jQuery - Javascript with a lot of really advanced animations - also has 
the benefit of being included in _EVERY_ browser ever made. (Ok I'm 
exaggerating here but ecmascript/JS is pretty common amongst browsers)

http://jquery.com/
(also see: http://docs.jquery.com/Effects)
jQuery would take a bit of work to make it reproduce 3D images like what 
you've got but it can be done.

=