Re: AW: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

2016-01-12 Thread lejeczek

There might be no need to be sad, I think.
Simple principles should prevail - and if with such a change 
we will get bigger user base, more developers working more 
closely together, the same one Bugzilla for everything 
then.. it can only be better for the software, better for 
everybody. Especially when so much is shared already. 
Everything else, any differences can, should always be 
discussed then agreed upon, only if people are willing.

bw.

On 12/01/16 09:51, Andreas Mock wrote:

Indeed a very interesting question, I will follow the answers.
I was and I am very happy with the work done in SL 6.x. So I'm sad
to see that there might be a change in direction.

Best regards
Andreas




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hi everybody,

I've wondered and got curious, what do you guys, gals think
about that move?
More importantly do you think it's a step we SL users should
also consider?
CERN mention there were talks between them, Fermilab - what
are Fermilab plans with regards to future releases, with
regards to SL in general? (Not much info on the website.)
I personally am just about to trial a migration from SL7 to
Centos. I'm thinking it's inevitable, am I wrong?

best wishes.


RE: AW: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

2016-01-12 Thread Tim Kanuka
We have just started our migration to SL7x. We did make the call on whether to 
go with Centos or not for 7x. For me, the slightly greater ease of staying with 
SL for the migration; the minimalist elegance of the the SL website and support 
structure; and no experience at all with Centos outweighed any perceived 
benefits of switching. 

Interestingly, CERN has rolled their own Centos anyway.

Thank you, SL people. 

Tim Kanuka
Canadian Light Source

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Sent: January 12, 2016 5:15 AM
To: Andreas Mock; SCIENTIFIC- LINUX- USERS@ FNAL. GOV
Subject: Re: AW: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

There might be no need to be sad, I think.
Simple principles should prevail - and if with such a change
we will get bigger user base, more developers working more
closely together, the same one Bugzilla for everything
then.. it can only be better for the software, better for
everybody. Especially when so much is shared already.
Everything else, any differences can, should always be
discussed then agreed upon, only if people are willing.
bw.

On 12/01/16 09:51, Andreas Mock wrote:
> Indeed a very interesting question, I will follow the answers.
> I was and I am very happy with the work done in SL 6.x. So I'm sad
> to see that there might be a change in direction.
>
> Best regards
> Andreas
>
>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-
>> scientific-linux-users@listserv.fnal.gov] Im Auftrag von lejeczek
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2016 10:48
>> An: SCIENTIFIC- LINUX- USERS@ FNAL. GOV
>> Betreff: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?
>>
>> hi everybody,
>>
>> I've wondered and got curious, what do you guys, gals think
>> about that move?
>> More importantly do you think it's a step we SL users should
>> also consider?
>> CERN mention there were talks between them, Fermilab - what
>> are Fermilab plans with regards to future releases, with
>> regards to SL in general? (Not much info on the website.)
>> I personally am just about to trial a migration from SL7 to
>> Centos. I'm thinking it's inevitable, am I wrong?
>>
>> best wishes.


Re: AW: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

2016-01-12 Thread Jarek Polok

On 01/12/2016 04:09 PM, Tim Kanuka wrote:

We have just started our migration to SL7x. We did make the call on whether to 
go with Centos or not for 7x. For me, the slightly greater ease of staying with 
SL for the migration; the minimalist elegance of the the SL website and support 
structure; and no experience at all with Centos outweighed any perceived 
benefits of switching.

Interestingly, CERN has rolled their own Centos anyway.


Not really:

- we added an additional repository to the installer
  (for site-specific tools)
- we changed repository definitions to point to
  our servers (and not centos mirrorlist)
- and we push updates in 'bunches' to these repos
  once per week (except for critical security ones)

other than the above it is just CentOS ..

Best Regards

Jarek
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