[scifinoir2] Medium Returns on Monday
Medium Returns To Monday http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46110 NBC's supernatural drama Medium will return for a fourth season on Jan. 7 and will air in its original timeslot on Monday nights at 10 p.m., the network announced. In season four, the lives of psychic Allison DuBois (Emmy winner Patricia Arquette) and her family are turned upside down after her abilities are publicly exposed, resulting in sweeping changes both professionally and personally. For the past three seasons, Allison has served as a part-time consultant to the district attorney's office in Phoenix, using her psychic abilities to solve violent and horrifying crimes that have mystified authorities, including her now-former boss D.A. Devalos (Miguel Sandoval) and others within the criminal justice system. The new season will feature guest star Anjelica Huston, who joins the cast for a six-episode arc as Cynthia Keener, an investigator for a national firm called Ameritips, who forms an unusual professional arrangement with Allison for her crime-solving abilities. Jake Weber co-stars as Allison's exceptionally supportive husband Joe, who is left looking for work after recent traumatic events. Also returning in the new season are Sofia Vassilieva, Maria Lark and Madison Carabello, who play Allison's daughters, and David Cubitt as Detective Lee Scanlon. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] SciFi Greenlights another reality show
I sooo shocked! http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46111 SCI FI Running With Money SCI FI Channel has green-lighted the reality competition pilot Run for Money, based on a successful Japanese game show, the network announced. Production is set to begin in January on the series, which pits a group of contestants against each other in the quest for cash prizes, while being stalked by relentless hunters. The action takes place over 60 minutes of real time in various landmark locations. As the clock winds down, the competition gets harder as more hunters appear on the streets, the game perimeter gets smaller and tasks are assigned that test fraying nerves. Contestants earn money for every second they stay alive and may opt out at their choosing. If they keep playing and are overrun by a hunter, they lose everything. The last person standing takes the prize. Run For Money is a fun, fast-paced thriller of a show, said Mark Stern, SCI FI's executive vice president of original programming. [It] fits nicely with our reality agenda of putting ordinary people in wild, extraordinary situations. It's high-adrenaline fun, part sport, part real-life video game. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] I am Legend Changes, Adapts Book
Legend Changes, Adapts Book http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=45971 Akiva Goldsman, who co-wrote the screnplay for the upcoming SF movie I Am Legend, told reporters that he made several changes to Richard Matheson's book, including shifting the location to New York from Los Angeles. One of the big changes from the source material, obviously, is the relocation to New York, which was something that we did because, novelistically, it's really very effective to render Los Angeles empty, but cinematically, Los Angeles is always empty, so it's very difficult to kind of really do that sort of stark 'Oh, where did everybody go?' [thing], Goldsman said in a news conference in Beverly Hills, Calif., last week. Very different in New York. I Am Legend stars Will Smith as a military virologist who is the last man on Earth and lives in an abandoned New York. The film also updates the book, which was written in 1954, into 2012 and features sly winks to the time period: gas station prices of $6.63 a gallon and a Times Square movie poster for a Batman vs. Superman movie, opening in 2010. (Goldsman shares screenplay credit with Mark Protosevich.) We just picked a specific date, and we built a sort of present, and I took every DC poster and character that I could think of that Warners hadn't made, slapped them up there, Goldsman said. Some of them we got cleared [permission], and some of them we were just, we stalled, so that clearance never saw them, so I'm pretty sure that somebody owes somebody a lot of money for that Batman vs. Superman poster [laughs]. Goldsman added that the movie acknowledges at least one of the several film adaptations of Matheson's book. If you look at the source credit, you'll see that it really is adapted both from Matheson's novel and from [the 1971 Charlton Heston movie The] Omega Man, which is really an intact work of its own, Goldsman said. And it's a little bit of a hybrid. I don't want to sort of say specifically what we did and didn't change. We tried to stay true to the spirit. Obviously, one of the most contentious issues always in the development of this property has been the ending. So I leave it to others to determine to what degree they find it faithful. I Am Legend opens Dec. 14. --Patrick Lee, News Editor Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal
I thought it was a weak Angel rip off, when I first watched it, but after the third episode, it began improving every week and I'm surprised to tell you that I like it. It still does not come close to Angel, but the storylines are getting better, they are starting to create their own unique and interesting mythology and the characters are starting to evolve. I remember there being at least one or two other ans on the list. 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Hollywood Reporter Dec-04-2007 Garlic may not repel it, sunshine may not kill it, and Moonves won't cancel it. It looks like Moonlight is close to earning a second season renewal from CBS, one of two new shows network chief Les Moonves says he feels will make a return in 2008. Moonves spent some time talking to The Hollywood Reporter about the fall season, which has been dismal in terms of new shows for nearly all the networks. NBC probably took the biggest hit, but CBS hasn't fared too well either. In fact, the only other show that would probably earn a renewal is the comedy Big Bang Theory. That's Hall of Fame batting, Moonves said, saying two hits out of five swings was something he was proud of. Shows like Moonlight represented a risky move for the network, but probably not as risky as the musical Viva Laughlin, which only lasted a few episodes before CBS yanked it from the schedule. It was a Hail Mary pass, said Moonves, shifting his analogies from baseball to football. We took it. We'll continue to do that. We continue to feel very bullish about the network television business. Moonlight has been one of fall's most consistent genre series. Although it's the least-watched CBS program on Friday night, it still is doing almost as well as Heroes on NBC and Pushing Daisies on ABC in terms of overnight ratings. Its household rating fell to a series low in its third episode, but has never really come close since, sitting a little more than half a rating point off its series premiere numbers. Bionic Woman, on the other hand, has not been so lucky for NBC. That show has lost more than half of its premiere audience, and continues to post series lows. Moonlight airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on CBS. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Heroes finale
No body said anything about the Heroes Finale last week. Wow, things sure have changes since last season. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Pete Ross Returns to Smallville!
Pete Ross Returns to Smallville! Sam Jones III reprising his role in an upcoming episode. December 6, 2007 - Clark Kent is about to be reunited with an old friend, as Sam Jones III returns to Smallville in the role of Pete Ross. IGN TV has the scoop on Pete's return, which will take place in an upcoming episode called Hero. Pete was a big part of the early seasons of Smallville, becoming the first person on the series -- outside of the Kent family -- to discover Clark's superpowers and alien heritage. Pete eventually moved to Wichita, and Jones left the show at the end of Season 3. Since that time there have been occasional rumors that Jones might make a guest appearance on the show, but Smallville producers previously said that scheduling issues prevented that from happening... until now that is. We've learned that in the episode Pete will have an encounter with kryptonite, which ends up giving him a superpower of his own. How this will affect his relationship with Clark remains to be seen... The air date for Hero is still to be determined, but look for it in 2008. http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Pete Ross Returns to Smallville!
Okay, I'll tune in for *that* one. No promises beyond that, though. Kara, evil? Uh, NO. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete Ross Returns to Smallville! Sam Jones III reprising his role in an upcoming episode. December 6, 2007 - Clark Kent is about to be reunited with an old friend, as Sam Jones III returns to Smallville in the role of Pete Ross. IGN TV has the scoop on Pete's return, which will take place in an upcoming episode called Hero. Pete was a big part of the early seasons of Smallville, becoming the first person on the series -- outside of the Kent family -- to discover Clark's superpowers and alien heritage. Pete eventually moved to Wichita, and Jones left the show at the end of Season 3. Since that time there have been occasional rumors that Jones might make a guest appearance on the show, but Smallville producers previously said that scheduling issues prevented that from happening... until now that is. We've learned that in the episode Pete will have an encounter with kryptonite, which ends up giving him a superpower of his own. How this will affect his relationship with Clark remains to be seen... The air date for Hero is still to be determined, but look for it in 2008. http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Ceasar and Jack...My two favorite Over-The-Toppers... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger Yahoo! Groups Links Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Exactly, Justin. And more agreement on Hamill's Joker. Would love to see *him* doing the role live-action, rather than Ledger. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
isn't that slightly un-fair since no one has see Heath in action yet...I'll pick Jack Nicholson On Dec 10, 2007 8:26 AM, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceasar and Jack...My two favorite Over-The-Toppers... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger Yahoo! Groups Links Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss.
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] DVDs Watched Over Thanksgiving
yeah, it's intense all right... -- Original message -- From: James A. Landrith, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw Lonesome Dove when it originally aired on network TV. I loved it so much I bought it on VHS many years ago and yet still haven't watched the tapes. Too sad. Funny thing that... ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:11:20 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ditto, i teared up at that end of that movie too. Speaking of crying, yesterday and today my wife and I watched the miniseries Lonesome Dove for the first time on some cable channel named ION. Man, that was one gut-wrenching, poignant ride! So many people dying, women being raped or nearly so, marauding Indians, broken dreams, life cheap out in the wilds. A fine piece of film making, i must say, definitely one of the last great miniseries. Outstanding performances from Tommy Lee Jones, Robert Duvall, Danny Glover, Dianne Lane, D.B. Sweeney, Robert Urich, Angelica Houston, Chris Cooper, Rick Schroeder, and a host of others. Sweeping in scope, amazing vistas and cinematography (note to music-video-directors-turned-film-makers: this is how to shoot a film!) The thing drew me in, and by the end i was very sad. My wife kept saying my gosh: what else can happen in this series? Who else is going to die or end up sad and broken? Powerful, stuff. Remember way back in the day, when everyone used to stay home and watch the great miniseries? From Roots (which started it all) to Rich Man, Poor Man, from Masada to North and South? Even the ones that weren't that good, that were over the top, got audiences. Back before VCRs, DVDs, and cable, this was one whole families still grouped around the television to share the event. Fun times, those... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I admit to crying at the ending. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: odd movie, made me kind of sad at the ending. Definitely has that late '60s/early '70s feel -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Works for me, too. Wish that someone would air Silent Running, for me. TCM had it on awhile back, but I missed it. Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kept it kinda old school and watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind still one of the best sci fi movies ever created. On Nov 26, 2007 3:56 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, I recall seeing on a 1999 web site that an Eagle's max speed was just short of lightspeed. If so, then the issue of range is kind of moot. On another site, the show was referred to as a science fantasy, which would cover a lot of the glaring science goofs, such as the notion of nuclear waste exploding with enough force to hurl the Moon clear of Earth orbit. After seeing the pilot, I sat down and did the math necessary for that to happen. Not in the realm of a conventional clean-nuke blast, let me tell you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: Love one of the early Space: 1999 eps where they're still in the Solar System. I think they're out near Neptune. There's an abandoned spaceship that has some kind of flesheating monster on it. The creature's like a giant squid or something, with [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought]
Dr Watson, my fine African Brother! (LMNAO as I stagger away) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:12:52 -0500 From: Ray Winbush Reply-To: Ray Winbush To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece From The Sunday Times December 9, 2007 DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought The genome of James Watson Jonathan Leake, Science Editor JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African, said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. It was very surprising to get this result for Jim. Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watsons opinions on race. I never did agree with Watsons remarks, he said. We do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race. The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was inherently gloomy about the prospects for Africa because all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really. The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watsons genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. *James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry* - Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average - Asthma - 31% less than average - Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average - Coeliac disease - 66% less than average - Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average - Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average - Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average - Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average - Heart attack - 33% less than average - Obesity - 5% greater than average - Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average - Psoriasis - 31% less than average - Restless leg - 29% less than average - Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average - Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average - Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average Results are calculated by comparing one person's genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Pete Ross Returns to Smallville!
they'll probably kill him off. :( Well, since Pete Ross is a part of Superman canon, i guess he'll live, but can't say i'm that thrilled he's back. the most underused character in the entire series' run. And of course he pretty much never had a girl, and there was the unrecquited love for Chloe all those years. Pete Ross was the stereotypical neutered-best-friend-magical-negro character only there to basically be Clark's sometimes sidekick. talk about a token minority character. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pete Ross Returns to Smallville! Sam Jones III reprising his role in an upcoming episode. December 6, 2007 - Clark Kent is about to be reunited with an old friend, as Sam Jones III returns to Smallville in the role of Pete Ross. IGN TV has the scoop on Pete's return, which will take place in an upcoming episode called Hero. Pete was a big part of the early seasons of Smallville, becoming the first person on the series -- outside of the Kent family -- to discover Clark's superpowers and alien heritage. Pete eventually moved to Wichita, and Jones left the show at the end of Season 3. Since that time there have been occasional rumors that Jones might make a guest appearance on the show, but Smallville producers previously said that scheduling issues prevented that from happening... until now that is. We've learned that in the episode Pete will have an encounter with kryptonite, which ends up giving him a superpower of his own. How this will affect his relationship with Clark remains to be seen... The air date for Hero is still to be determined, but look for it in 2008. http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
I am not a heroes fan. I did parts of the finale. I am glad that the bad guys may get a chance to shine next season. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I¹m down with Jack as well, with Mark Hamil as a close second. On 12/10/07 8:30 AM, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't that slightly un-fair since no one has see Heath in action yet...I'll pick Jack Nicholson On Dec 10, 2007 8:26 AM, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: Ceasar and Jack...My two favorite Over-The-Toppers... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger Yahoo! Groups Links Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought]
File this under Secret Origins: Uncle Ruckus On 12/10/07 8:36 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Watson, my fine African Brother! (LMNAO as I stagger away) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Original Message Subject: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:12:52 -0500 From: Ray Winbush Reply-To: Ray Winbush To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:AFAMHED%40LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece From The Sunday Times December 9, 2007 DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought The genome of James Watson Jonathan Leake, Science Editor JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. ³This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,² said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. ³It was very surprising to get this result for Jim.² Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watson¹s opinions on race. ³I never did agree with Watson¹s remarks,² he said. ³We do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race.² The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was ³inherently gloomy about the prospects for Africa² because ³all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really². The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watson¹s genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. *James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry* - Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average - Asthma - 31% less than average - Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average - Coeliac disease - 66% less than average - Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average - Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average - Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average - Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average - Heart attack - 33% less than average - Obesity - 5% greater than average - Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average - Psoriasis - 31% less than average - Restless leg - 29% less than average - Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average - Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average - Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average Results are calculated by comparing one person's genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
Sure--I watch Dexter. Despite the fact that I came to work telling my co-workers that Showtime was scraping the bottom of the barrel by making a series about a serial killer. It is surprisingly good. I was under the impression that it completes this year. That just like many British series, it will actually have a definite ending. I am trying to imagine a sanitized Dexter on network TV. That would be a shame. Dexter's crimes have actual moral consequences for himself. I would imagine network TV would soften both the crime and its impact on the protaganist. (Much as they soften's some of the other Brit dramas that they imported to American TV) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
Recorded and have not watched. I am 3 weeks behind on both this show and Chuck. I probably won't get a chance to watch it until next week. On 12/10/07 3:33 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No body said anything about the Heroes Finale last week. Wow, things sure have changes since last season. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Christian Bale. All Day. I was a Michael Keaton purist, but Bale is the best thing to happen to this role in forever. On 12/10/07 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I was talking to someone about pointless nerd flippery recently, and I took the position that if Sci-Fi nerds had the resources and support that sports nerds have, there would be 4 Sci-Fi Channels. I watched NFL Network for the first time last week. I was surprised at what a completely geeky experience it was. Just show me the dangon GAME. There were shows about the numbers/stats, shows about the making of the numbers. Shows about arguing the calculation of the numbers, shows dedicated to speculation, shows dedicated to fantasy teams...and this is just for the NFL!! God help us if baseball gets a channel. All we have is one channel that barely shows science fiction on a regular basis. Our Nerd flippery is nothing. On 12/10/07 7:19 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
That's Hard, while I thought it was a bizarre casting decision, I ended up really liking Keaton. I'm the biggest Christian Bale fan, but I hate the goofy voice change he does when he has the tights on. I guess its both of them Martin wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought]
He is also 9% Asian? How about that!!! Martin wrote: Dr Watson, my fine African Brother! (LMNAO as I stagger away) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Original Message Subject: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:12:52 -0500 From: Ray Winbush Reply-To: Ray Winbush To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:AFAMHED%40LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece From The Sunday Times December 9, 2007 DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought The genome of James Watson Jonathan Leake, Science Editor JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African, said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. It was very surprising to get this result for Jim. Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watson's opinions on race. I never did agree with Watson's remarks, he said. We do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race. The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was inherently gloomy about the prospects for Africa because all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really. The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watson's genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. *James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry* - Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average - Asthma - 31% less than average - Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average - Coeliac disease - 66% less than average - Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average - Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average - Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average - Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average - Heart attack - 33% less than average - Obesity - 5% greater than average - Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average - Psoriasis - 31% less than average - Restless leg - 29% less than average - Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average - Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average - Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average Results are calculated by comparing one person's genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Pete Ross Returns to Smallville!
I never liked his character and sometimes blamed it on the actor. However, I was wrong. I've seen other work that he has done and he is actually rather good [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they'll probably kill him off. :( Well, since Pete Ross is a part of Superman canon, i guess he'll live, but can't say i'm that thrilled he's back. the most underused character in the entire series' run. And of course he pretty much never had a girl, and there was the unrecquited love for Chloe all those years. Pete Ross was the stereotypical neutered-best-friend-magical-negro character only there to basically be Clark's sometimes sidekick. talk about a token minority character. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Pete Ross Returns to Smallville! Sam Jones III reprising his role in an upcoming episode. December 6, 2007 - Clark Kent is about to be reunited with an old friend, as Sam Jones III returns to Smallville in the role of Pete Ross. IGN TV has the scoop on Pete's return, which will take place in an upcoming episode called Hero. Pete was a big part of the early seasons of Smallville, becoming the first person on the series -- outside of the Kent family -- to discover Clark's superpowers and alien heritage. Pete eventually moved to Wichita, and Jones left the show at the end of Season 3. Since that time there have been occasional rumors that Jones might make a guest appearance on the show, but Smallville producers previously said that scheduling issues prevented that from happening... until now that is. We've learned that in the episode Pete will have an encounter with kryptonite, which ends up giving him a superpower of his own. How this will affect his relationship with Clark remains to be seen... The air date for Hero is still to be determined, but look for it in 2008. http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
That is interesting. Why did you not get into it last year? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not a heroes fan. I did parts of the finale. I am glad that the bad guys may get a chance to shine next season. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301 http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
They are showing episodes that have actually aired on showtime. It basically because they are disparate for programming as a result of the strike. I imagine they will have to do a significant amount of editing. I'm going to keep watching on DVD. It should not be edited in my opinion. What did you think about Mr. Brooks? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Sure--I watch Dexter. Despite the fact that I came to work telling my co-workers that Showtime was scraping the bottom of the barrel by making a series about a serial killer. It is surprisingly good. I was under the impression that it completes this year. That just like many British series, it will actually have a definite ending. I am trying to imagine a sanitized Dexter on network TV. That would be a shame. Dexter's crimes have actual moral consequences for himself. I would imagine network TV would soften both the crime and its impact on the protaganist. (Much as they soften's some of the other Brit dramas that they imported to American TV) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Don't feel badly, Tracey. I'm in the same boat. I liked Keaton right off the bat, especially after going through six months of WTF? after learning of the casting. Bale wasn't as much of a shock, since I've always loved his work since Empire of the Sun. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's Hard, while I thought it was a bizarre casting decision, I ended up really liking Keaton. I'm the biggest Christian Bale fan, but I hate the goofy voice change he does when he has the tights on. I guess its both of them Martin wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
Peter Petrelli and Mohinder are still dumb as rocks. I liked the resolution to the Hiro and Adam storyline. Why did the sister with the Taskmaster like powers turn into a punk? We were having a bit of an ice storm during the finale so my DirecTv signal flickered off a couple a times at the end of the episode. S P O I L E R S P A C E Was Noah aka Horn Rimmed Glasses Dad the one to pull the trigger on Nathan Petrelli? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No body said anything about the Heroes Finale last week. Wow, things sure have changes since last season. Any thoughts?
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Nothing but truth in that, Daryle. Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was talking to someone about pointless nerd flippery recently, and I took the position that if Sci-Fi nerds had the resources and support that sports nerds have, there would be 4 Sci-Fi Channels. I watched NFL Network for the first time last week. I was surprised at what a completely geeky experience it was. Just show me the dangon GAME. There were shows about the numbers/stats, shows about the making of the numbers. Shows about arguing the calculation of the numbers, shows dedicated to speculation, shows dedicated to fantasy teams...and this is just for the NFL!! God help us if baseball gets a channel. All we have is one channel that barely shows science fiction on a regular basis. Our Nerd flippery is nothing. On 12/10/07 7:19 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought]
I'd give my next disability check to see the expression on his face. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is also 9% Asian? How about that!!! Martin wrote: Dr Watson, my fine African Brother! (LMNAO as I stagger away) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Original Message Subject: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:12:52 -0500 From: Ray Winbush Reply-To: Ray Winbush To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:AFAMHED%40LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece From The Sunday Times December 9, 2007 DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought The genome of James Watson Jonathan Leake, Science Editor JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African, said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. It was very surprising to get this result for Jim. Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watson's opinions on race. I never did agree with Watson's remarks, he said. We do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race. The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was inherently gloomy about the prospects for Africa because all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really. The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watson's genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. *James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry* - Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average - Asthma - 31% less than average - Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average - Coeliac disease - 66% less than average - Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average - Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average - Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average - Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average - Heart attack - 33% less than average - Obesity - 5% greater than average - Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average - Psoriasis - 31% less than average - Restless leg - 29% less than average - Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average - Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average - Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average Results are calculated by comparing one person's genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought]
LMNAO Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File this under Secret Origins: Uncle Ruckus On 12/10/07 8:36 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Watson, my fine African Brother! (LMNAO as I stagger away) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Original Message Subject: [AFAMHED] DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:12:52 -0500 From: Ray Winbush Reply-To: Ray Winbush To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:AFAMHED%40LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece From The Sunday Times December 9, 2007 DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought The genome of James Watson Jonathan Leake, Science Editor JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. ³This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,² said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. ³It was very surprising to get this result for Jim.² Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watson¹s opinions on race. ³I never did agree with Watson¹s remarks,² he said. ³We do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race.² The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was ³inherently gloomy about the prospects for Africa² because ³all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really². The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watson¹s genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. *James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry* - Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average - Asthma - 31% less than average - Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average - Coeliac disease - 66% less than average - Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average - Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average - Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average - Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average - Heart attack - 33% less than average - Obesity - 5% greater than average - Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average - Psoriasis - 31% less than average - Restless leg - 29% less than average - Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average - Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average - Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average Results are calculated by comparing one person's genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
I missed it, probably because of Tin Man. I'll have to scope it online. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No body said anything about the Heroes Finale last week. Wow, things sure have changes since last season. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal
Tracey, I admit that I haven't ventured near it since the pilot, secondarily because it failed to hook me right of, primarily because Women's Murder Club, airing opposite it, did. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it was a weak Angel rip off, when I first watched it, but after the third episode, it began improving every week and I'm surprised to tell you that I like it. It still does not come close to Angel, but the storylines are getting better, they are starting to create their own unique and interesting mythology and the characters are starting to evolve. I remember there being at least one or two other ans on the list. 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Hollywood Reporter Dec-04-2007 Garlic may not repel it, sunshine may not kill it, and Moonves won't cancel it. It looks like Moonlight is close to earning a second season renewal from CBS, one of two new shows network chief Les Moonves says he feels will make a return in 2008. Moonves spent some time talking to The Hollywood Reporter about the fall season, which has been dismal in terms of new shows for nearly all the networks. NBC probably took the biggest hit, but CBS hasn't fared too well either. In fact, the only other show that would probably earn a renewal is the comedy Big Bang Theory. That's Hall of Fame batting, Moonves said, saying two hits out of five swings was something he was proud of. Shows like Moonlight represented a risky move for the network, but probably not as risky as the musical Viva Laughlin, which only lasted a few episodes before CBS yanked it from the schedule. It was a Hail Mary pass, said Moonves, shifting his analogies from baseball to football. We took it. We'll continue to do that. We continue to feel very bullish about the network television business. Moonlight has been one of fall's most consistent genre series. Although it's the least-watched CBS program on Friday night, it still is doing almost as well as Heroes on NBC and Pushing Daisies on ABC in terms of overnight ratings. Its household rating fell to a series low in its third episode, but has never really come close since, sitting a little more than half a rating point off its series premiere numbers. Bionic Woman, on the other hand, has not been so lucky for NBC. That show has lost more than half of its premiere audience, and continues to post series lows. Moonlight airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on CBS. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
Don't have Showtime. (Refuse to pay Evil Comcast a dime more than necessary, and add in the fact that I can't even get the digital service I help pay for now to work evenly...might give it a look, if it slides over to the Eyeball Network. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] SciFi Greenlights another reality show
(gagging uncontrollably) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sooo shocked! http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46111 SCI FI Running With Money SCI FI Channel has green-lighted the reality competition pilot Run for Money, based on a successful Japanese game show, the network announced. Production is set to begin in January on the series, which pits a group of contestants against each other in the quest for cash prizes, while being stalked by relentless hunters. The action takes place over 60 minutes of real time in various landmark locations. As the clock winds down, the competition gets harder as more hunters appear on the streets, the game perimeter gets smaller and tasks are assigned that test fraying nerves. Contestants earn money for every second they stay alive and may opt out at their choosing. If they keep playing and are overrun by a hunter, they lose everything. The last person standing takes the prize. Run For Money is a fun, fast-paced thriller of a show, said Mark Stern, SCI FI's executive vice president of original programming. [It] fits nicely with our reality agenda of putting ordinary people in wild, extraordinary situations. It's high-adrenaline fun, part sport, part real-life video game. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watch Tin Man?
Yeah, I think that was it. There was also a recent one, The Last Legion, that seemed to do the same thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. Are you talking about Camelot, (I think that was the name), the Technicolor film from back in the day? I know at least one treatment of the Arthurian legend removed the magic. Now, King Arthur did also remove the magic, but i really like that movie.Watched it twice last week on FX -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felt like one of the two or three movies I remember about the retelling of the Arthurian legend, in which all the magic was removed. It's like art without color. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hercules was just plain awful...the rest had their moments. I wasn't too fun of merlin, though. I found it to be dull, not having either the magic of the legends, nor a good tale sans magic. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll put it even with everything you you listed, save for Hercules (which I never was able to get into). None of them wowed or insulted me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks for the comments. I'll watch it this weekend. Assuming you watched all the other scifi/fantasy miniseries of the last several years (The Odyssey, Gulliver's Travels, Arabian Nights, Hercules, Dinotopia, Merlin, etc.) how does it rank? I think some of the same team produced it as some of those others, no? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched part one last night. I found it interesting and creative reimagining of the tale but it has a lot of the typical short comings of Sci-fi channel original programing. The script and the dialogue can tend to get a little awkward. There are some cheesy plot points and the direction and editing can feel ham handed. On the flipside, it's really pretty fun so far and the story is has been both intriguing and relatively well conceived. It's good enough to drive me to finish it this weekend before my girl has to go back to Mass for another ten days of work. I'll probably netflix it when it is released on DVD in the future. I probably will not buy it. Unless my kids really want it. Bosco --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? not hearing any reviews. I have the next week-and-a-half off from work, and wondering if i should watch the miniseries, or clear up the tape for Avatar and Legion of Superheroes -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) When I realized Tin Man was a three-part miniseries, and that tonight would run it up against Heroes and K*Ville, i elected to record the whole thing and watch it this weekend in one long marathon. Anyone watch part one last night? How was it? Hoping it was as cool as the trailers led me to hope... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
I suggest renting, as they are going to have to do a lot of editing if it makes it to CBS Martin wrote: Don't have Showtime. (Refuse to pay Evil Comcast a dime more than necessary, and add in the fact that I can't even get the digital service I help pay for now to work evenly...might give it a look, if it slides over to the Eyeball Network. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun
I prefer peasent. Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knave! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:16 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun (Another Extremely Cash Deficient Individual applauds...) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com wrote: Then you are insufferably rich and don't miss the cash they syphon off you...(just my opinion) Signed Extremely Cash Deficient Individual Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I love Comcast. Bring it on! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Comcrap was correct...(grumble) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You can see the who one-hour uninterrupted if you have Comcrap- I mean comcast on demand. They have under the nicktoons category as one episode. I saw it yesterday KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: last night was the rerun, but only part one of the one-hour Black Sun. So check next week for part 2, which is the better half. . Avatar is running ten all new episodes. I think they may have done the first batch of ten, so keep watch and see if the show starts reruning next week -- Original message -- From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com D'OH! And I have no excuse, as the movie I'd been watching went off twenty minutes before it came on. And I bet I've missed any possible repeat now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Keith and any others who watch Avatar. Did you see the two part episode where that attack the fire nation? I thought it was fantastic, but it left me very sad. I can't believe this little Nicktoon has had such an impact on me. I was a little disappointed about what Azula knew. What did you think about it? If you post spoilers, post a warning at the top. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't
Re: [scifinoir2] Gellar Afraid of ‘Buffy’ Reprisal
Astro, is that plan still on to hack the SDI sytem once it comes online, to etch her image onto the Moon's surface? Oops. That was a secret, wasn't it? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pour it on guys, the ego is blowing up Martin wrote: What you said. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: I found out she's a natural blonde, Martin...Broke my heart too! She was one stunning brunette...but not as gorgeous as Tracey...(wink!) Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Tracey, I didn't like her shift to blonde hair. I never do, and don't see the appeal in it. I know all about the Blonde Mystique, and have been snared by it a time or three, but I still don't like it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I did not see her attractiveness until she did Gallactica [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: She could pull it off. I never could figure out why Lucy Lawless as Xena just turned me the hell on! I mean, she's pretty, but not on the level of Catherine Zeta Jones or Kristen Kreuk, but i couldn't tear my eyes away from her. Even as a blonde, something about Lawless gets me. Wish I knew why... Oh--back to the topic! Xena wouldn't be Xena without the actor who played Aries, and of course he tragically died a couple of years ago... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com Would be tough to resurrect Xena, though. It's possible, but she did p*ss off a *lot* of gods and goddesses during her run. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i can see that. i'm still wondering if her age would be an issue. i could see a return to Xena, though, as a TV movie -- Original message -- From: Mike Street I have to agree with her on her comments. Buffy was SO LOVED that to bring it back and then have it be wack would hurt so many of the fans. This is probably the same reason we haven't seen a Xena movie. Sometimes we should let sleeping dogs rest. Buffy was great on so many level I was a fan and i personally don't want to see a movie version of it. On Dec 3, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: part of Buffy's appeal was her youth, her innocence, her very physical being: the small and waifish girl who seemed so out of place in a world of monsters. It's Whedon's stock-in-trade, teh young vulnerable girl fighting overwhelming odds. Do you think that Gellar is starting to look a little old for that Buffy? I'm not saying she's old mind you, just wonder if she'd still be right for that particular role in a year or two. Will Buffy be married? Have kids? Will she have a regular 9-5 job? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Gellar Afraid of 'Buffy' Reprisal http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 By Julie Pyle Fans might still be demanding a return from Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon. Especially now that Sarah Michelle Gellar, who played Buffy Summers for seven years, isn't sure she even wants to return to the role ââ¬Â¦ even if it hits the big screen. I have to be honest. That thought really scares me,Gellar said in an interview to Moviehole. Buffy was a movie and it didn't work because her story was longer than that. This was about a girl that you had to get to know and it took so long to figure out how to crack the ending so that people weren't upset. Of course I never say never, so I'm not saying no, but my fear would be to open something like that up again, to only end it again. Even though the series has been off the air for over four years, fan outcry still demands a continuation of the BuffyVerse. And while a feature film on the big screen may still be just a pipe dream, the world may be closer to direct-to-DVD movies featuring secondary characters. Rumors have been swirling about creator Joss Whedon directing a Spike movie and executive producer Marti Noxon says past show scriptwriters have been contacted regarding a series of new movies centering around characters other than Buffy herself. I feel like a show you love ends, you have like a mourning period, so do you open yourself up to that again, to wanting it but knowing it's going to end, she continued. That whole thing worries me a little bit. So far, no specific characters have been named for the DVD movies and none of this has been confirmed by Twentieth Century Fox so should be treated as any other rumor. [Non-text portions of
RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun
(making Sign of the Cross in direction of C_t) Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, since I have internet, phone, and cable through them, my Comcast bill is lower than just my phone bill was with ATT/SBC. That's why I kept them after the $99.00 special was over. Knave! :o) Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Then you are insufferably rich and don't miss the cash they syphon off you...(just my opinion) Signed Extremely Cash Deficient Individual Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I love Comcast. Bring it on! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Comcrap was correct...(grumble) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You can see the who one-hour uninterrupted if you have Comcrap- I mean comcast on demand. They have under the nicktoons category as one episode. I saw it yesterday KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: last night was the rerun, but only part one of the one-hour Black Sun. So check next week for part 2, which is the better half. . Avatar is running ten all new episodes. I think they may have done the first batch of ten, so keep watch and see if the show starts reruning next week -- Original message -- From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com D'OH! And I have no excuse, as the movie I'd been watching went off twenty minutes before it came on. And I bet I've missed any possible repeat now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Keith and any others who watch Avatar. Did you see the two part episode where that attack the fire nation? I thought it was fantastic, but it left me very sad. I can't believe this little Nicktoon has had such an impact on me. I was a little disappointed about what Azula knew. What did you think about it? If you post spoilers, post a warning at the top. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them
Re: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie
What is your group? Martin wrote: I regret to inform you all that I am no longer qualified to be sacrificial material, as I have, recently and unexpectedly, become a Yahu Group Owner. They consider it bad form to butcher their own... MAR-tin. MARtin. HACK! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:14 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie I've angered the Yahu Gods. You must sacrifice me on the altar, to save the site... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Something is really up with yahoo. Now they are refusing my approvals of so-called spam messages and saying that scifinoir2 does not exist.. I went on the site today and there were 15 new messages. I had just checked a day ago when there were 28 spam messages that I approved. Ironically, none of the messages were real spam messages Astromancer wrote: Boy, is this old stuff! Astromancer wrote: Ahem...that was 'stripper with a heart'...granted, for a sci-fi fix it would work, but it just nags me how they wasted such a good story idea for the 'quick money' format...I felt the same way about Stargate...I was more entertained by the Bill McKay novels based on the movie... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I don't think it was a masterpiece, but for home video viewing, it was fun if your bored and need your scifi fix. That being said, I had a problem with the hooker with a heart cliche, a long with probably scores of other chiches (sorry sp.) You also had to check your logic at the door. But if you watch these flicks with other scifi buffs, laughing and joking around about the corny factor is fun. Maybe I wound not have enjoyed them if I had watched them alone. I don't know Astromancer wrote: Now about Independence Day...did not and still do not like it...just another good idea thrown away in lieu of sensationalism...but that's my opinion about Dean Devlin's work... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I never got into the toon either. I did not think it was a cinematic masterpiece, but I enjoyed it is the vein of Independence Day. It was a fun adrenaline rush where you checked logic at the door. Maybe it was a movie for non-fans of the toon Astromancer wrote: Because I never watched the cartoon, I don't have the references you guys have...To be honest, the kid made the movie for me...It was written to be campy, that much I got...So with that perspective, I enjoyed it...Maybe I have a weakness for spastic nerds... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: my problem with Transformers is the incredibly lame plot and acting. I loved the FX, but i all but gagged during some of the jokes, and found the plot boring. The whole thing with the Life Spark was crap: why not just bring in the Matrix of Leadership? Why did the Spark only create evil robots if it was the genesis of the Autobots as well? what kind of stupid strategy was it to let a puny human boy run off to save the day? Him dodging and avoiding battle 'droids--even supported by the Autobots--was stupid beyond belief. Incredible looking movie, juvenile writing... -- Original message -- From: Justin Mohareb On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 PM, streetforce1 wrote: So the G.I. Joe movie is starting to get buzz and cast members...but will it suck as hard at Transformers did? I hated the Transformers movie and not another of my favorite 80's cartoons is coming to live. Aug 2009 is the release date of the movie. The Army bits in Transformers made me think they'd originally planned it to be a GI Joe/Transformers crossover. The biggest problem I had with TF was that they killed the black robot first. In fact, I think he's the only Autobot that bought (bot?) it. JJ Mohareb -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com .livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Letââ,¬â¢s just saying you know more than you think, but weââ,¬â¢re not
Re: [scifinoir2] Gellar Afraid of ‘Buffy’ Rep risal
Oh Yeah Martin wrote: Astro, is that plan still on to hack the SDI sytem once it comes online, to etch her image onto the Moon's surface? Oops. That was a secret, wasn't it? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Pour it on guys, the ego is blowing up Martin wrote: What you said. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: I found out she's a natural blonde, Martin...Broke my heart too! She was one stunning brunette...but not as gorgeous as Tracey...(wink!) Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Tracey, I didn't like her shift to blonde hair. I never do, and don't see the appeal in it. I know all about the Blonde Mystique, and have been snared by it a time or three, but I still don't like it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I did not see her attractiveness until she did Gallactica [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: She could pull it off. I never could figure out why Lucy Lawless as Xena just turned me the hell on! I mean, she's pretty, but not on the level of Catherine Zeta Jones or Kristen Kreuk, but i couldn't tear my eyes away from her. Even as a blonde, something about Lawless gets me. Wish I knew why... Oh--back to the topic! Xena wouldn't be Xena without the actor who played Aries, and of course he tragically died a couple of years ago... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com Would be tough to resurrect Xena, though. It's possible, but she did p*ss off a *lot* of gods and goddesses during her run. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i can see that. i'm still wondering if her age would be an issue. i could see a return to Xena, though, as a TV movie -- Original message -- From: Mike Street I have to agree with her on her comments. Buffy was SO LOVED that to bring it back and then have it be wack would hurt so many of the fans. This is probably the same reason we haven't seen a Xena movie. Sometimes we should let sleeping dogs rest. Buffy was great on so many level I was a fan and i personally don't want to see a movie version of it. On Dec 3, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: part of Buffy's appeal was her youth, her innocence, her very physical being: the small and waifish girl who seemed so out of place in a world of monsters. It's Whedon's stock-in-trade, teh young vulnerable girl fighting overwhelming odds. Do you think that Gellar is starting to look a little old for that Buffy? I'm not saying she's old mind you, just wonder if she'd still be right for that particular role in a year or two. Will Buffy be married? Have kids? Will she have a regular 9-5 job? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Gellar Afraid of 'Buffy' Reprisal http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 By Julie Pyle Fans might still be demanding a return from Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon. Especially now that Sarah Michelle Gellar, who played Buffy Summers for seven years, isn't sure she even wants to return to the role … even if it hits the big screen. I have to be honest. That thought really scares me,Gellar said in an interview to Moviehole. Buffy was a movie and it didn't work because her story was longer than that. This was about a girl that you had to get to know and it took so long to figure out how to crack the ending so that people weren't upset. Of course I never say never, so I'm not saying no, but my fear would be to open something like that up again, to only end it again. Even though the series has been off the air for over four years, fan outcry still demands a continuation of the BuffyVerse. And while a feature film on the big screen may still be just a pipe dream, the world may be closer to direct-to-DVD movies featuring secondary characters. Rumors have been swirling about creator Joss Whedon directing a Spike movie and executive producer Marti Noxon says past show scriptwriters have been contacted regarding a series of new
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal
I saw the Women's Murder Club or the first time on Saturday. I kind of like it. I remember there was a discussion on the list when the show first aired about whether the show was racist. While I have read the Angie Harmon is a right-wing, religious extremist and I tend to think of them as racist, I did not see any overt racism on the show. Martin wrote: Tracey, I admit that I haven't ventured near it since the pilot, secondarily because it failed to hook me right of, primarily because Women's Murder Club, airing opposite it, did. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought it was a weak Angel rip off, when I first watched it, but after the third episode, it began improving every week and I'm surprised to tell you that I like it. It still does not come close to Angel, but the storylines are getting better, they are starting to create their own unique and interesting mythology and the characters are starting to evolve. I remember there being at least one or two other ans on the list. 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Hollywood Reporter Dec-04-2007 Garlic may not repel it, sunshine may not kill it, and Moonves won't cancel it. It looks like Moonlight is close to earning a second season renewal from CBS, one of two new shows network chief Les Moonves says he feels will make a return in 2008. Moonves spent some time talking to The Hollywood Reporter about the fall season, which has been dismal in terms of new shows for nearly all the networks. NBC probably took the biggest hit, but CBS hasn't fared too well either. In fact, the only other show that would probably earn a renewal is the comedy Big Bang Theory. That's Hall of Fame batting, Moonves said, saying two hits out of five swings was something he was proud of. Shows like Moonlight represented a risky move for the network, but probably not as risky as the musical Viva Laughlin, which only lasted a few episodes before CBS yanked it from the schedule. It was a Hail Mary pass, said Moonves, shifting his analogies from baseball to football. We took it. We'll continue to do that. We continue to feel very bullish about the network television business. Moonlight has been one of fall's most consistent genre series. Although it's the least-watched CBS program on Friday night, it still is doing almost as well as Heroes on NBC and Pushing Daisies on ABC in terms of overnight ratings. Its household rating fell to a series low in its third episode, but has never really come close since, sitting a little more than half a rating point off its series premiere numbers. Bionic Woman, on the other hand, has not been so lucky for NBC. That show has lost more than half of its premiere audience, and continues to post series lows. Moonlight airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on CBS. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Does Race Affect Your Intelligence?
All Brains Are the Same Color By RICHARD E. NISBETT http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/opinion/09nisbett.html?pagewanted=2_r=1ref=opinion Ann Arbor, Mich. JAMES WATSON, the 1962 Nobel laureate, recently asserted that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” and its citizens because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really.” Dr. Watson’s remarks created a huge stir because they implied that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, and the controversy resulted in his resignation as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. But was he right? Is there a genetic difference between blacks and whites that condemns blacks in perpetuity to be less intelligent? The first notable public airing of the scientific question came in a 1969 article in The Harvard Educational Review by Arthur Jensen, a psychologist at the University of California, Berkeley. Dr. Jensen maintained that a 15-point difference in I.Q. between blacks and whites was mostly due to a genetic difference between the races that could never be erased. But his argument gave a misleading account of the evidence. And others who later made the same argument — Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray in “The Bell Curve,” in 1994, for example, and just recently, William Saletan in a series of articles on Slate — have made the same mistake. In fact, the evidence heavily favors the view that race differences in I.Q. are environmental in origin, not genetic. The hereditarians begin with the assertion that 60 percent to 80 percent of variation in I.Q. is genetically determined. However, most estimates of heritability have been based almost exclusively on studies of middle-class groups. For the poor, a group that includes a substantial proportion of minorities, heritability of I.Q. is very low, in the range of 10 percent to 20 percent, according to recent research by Eric Turkheimer at the University of Virginia. This means that for the poor, improvements in environment have great potential to bring about increases in I.Q. In any case, the degree of heritability of a characteristic tells us nothing about how much the environment can affect it. Even when a trait is highly heritable (think of the height of corn plants), modifiability can also be great (think of the difference growing conditions can make). Nearly all the evidence suggesting a genetic basis for the I.Q. differential is indirect. There is, for example, the evidence that brain size is correlated with intelligence, and that blacks have smaller brains than whites. But the brain size difference between men and women is substantially greater than that between blacks and whites, yet men and women score the same, on average, on I.Q. tests. Likewise, a group of people in a community in Ecuador have a genetic anomaly that produces extremely small head sizes — and hence brain sizes. Yet their intelligence is as high as that of their unaffected relatives. Why rely on such misleading and indirect findings when we have much more direct evidence about the basis for the I.Q. gap? About 25 percent of the genes in the American black population are European, meaning that the genes of any individual can range from 100 percent African to mostly European. If European intelligence genes are superior, then blacks who have relatively more European genes ought to have higher I.Q.’s than those who have more African genes. But it turns out that skin color and “negroidness” of features — both measures of the degree of a black person’s European ancestry — are only weakly associated with I.Q. (even though we might well expect a moderately high association due to the social advantages of such features). During World War II, both black and white American soldiers fathered children with German women. Thus some of these children had 100 percent European heritage and some had substantial African heritage. Tested in later childhood, the German children of the white fathers were found to have an average I.Q. of 97, and those of the black fathers had an average of 96.5, a trivial difference. If European genes conferred an advantage, we would expect that the smartest blacks would have substantial European heritage. But when a group of investigators sought out the very brightest black children in the Chicago school system and asked them about the race of their parents and grandparents, these children were found to have no greater degree of European ancestry than blacks in the population at large. Most tellingly, blood-typing tests have been used to assess the degree to which black individuals have European genes. The blood group assays show no association between degree of European heritage and I.Q. Similarly, the blood groups most closely associated with high intellectual performance among blacks are no more European in origin than other blood groups. The
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
well, you can forgive a lot of Batman Begins because it's Bruce just starting out. So, the voice thing isn't that big a deal to me: just means he's trying to find what persona fits him better. Note, for example, that he's not really Batman all the time, either. You get the feeling the true man is Bruce, Batman the mask. That may change over time, but for the last years, the presentatin has been that Batman is real, and Bruce the mask. The next movie (or two?) may see a change to Batman being more dominant. Incidentally, that dual persona battle has been a big one for Batman and Superman particularly over the years. After the DC Crisis in the mid-80s, Superman was remade so that Clark was the real persona, Superman the mask. Clark didn't even find out he was an alien until well into adulthood. And like i said, Bats was the real persona during that time. Back and forth on that one... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Hard, while I thought it was a bizarre casting decision, I ended up really liking Keaton. I'm the biggest Christian Bale fan, but I hate the goofy voice change he does when he has the tights on. I guess its both of them Martin wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Pete Ross Returns to Smallville!
I never blamed the actor. Look at the stories they gave him. While Chloe, Lana, Lex, and the others got meat roles, Pete literally stood around to pick up after Clark, becoming a foil to help him keep his secret. They did the thing that drives me nuts in TV, which used to be more common: make the Black guy in love with a white woman, but then let it sit with no action taken. And worse, he had one girlfriend to my knowledge the entire run he was on. Like I said, neutered magical negro. :( it was a purely standard racist decision by the network. I know i'm ranting, but notice how Pete was significantly smaller and less muscular than Clark? Yet all around, the white guys were big, strapping, or at least considered really good looking. Think about Lana's first boyfriend Whitney (now playing Flash Gordon), her second love, who's now on Supernatural, Johnathan Kent. Even Lex and his dad are powerful presences. Even my wife--who isn't subject to as many fits of crying hidden racism as I--once said, Why is Pete the smallest, least impressive, and frankly, less attractive man on the whole show? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never liked his character and sometimes blamed it on the actor. However, I was wrong. I've seen other work that he has done and he is actually rather good [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they'll probably kill him off. :( Well, since Pete Ross is a part of Superman canon, i guess he'll live, but can't say i'm that thrilled he's back. the most underused character in the entire series' run. And of course he pretty much never had a girl, and there was the unrecquited love for Chloe all those years. Pete Ross was the stereotypical neutered-best-friend-magical-negro character only there to basically be Clark's sometimes sidekick. talk about a token minority character. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Pete Ross Returns to Smallville! Sam Jones III reprising his role in an upcoming episode. December 6, 2007 - Clark Kent is about to be reunited with an old friend, as Sam Jones III returns to Smallville in the role of Pete Ross. IGN TV has the scoop on Pete's return, which will take place in an upcoming episode called Hero. Pete was a big part of the early seasons of Smallville, becoming the first person on the series -- outside of the Kent family -- to discover Clark's superpowers and alien heritage. Pete eventually moved to Wichita, and Jones left the show at the end of Season 3. Since that time there have been occasional rumors that Jones might make a guest appearance on the show, but Smallville producers previously said that scheduling issues prevented that from happening... until now that is. We've learned that in the episode Pete will have an encounter with kryptonite, which ends up giving him a superpower of his own. How this will affect his relationship with Clark remains to be seen... The air date for Hero is still to be determined, but look for it in 2008. http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html http://tv.ign.com/articles/839/839971p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
Did didn't show who did the deed you reference below. Just some figure running away... -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Petrelli and Mohinder are still dumb as rocks. I liked the resolution to the Hiro and Adam storyline. Why did the sister with the Taskmaster like powers turn into a punk? We were having a bit of an ice storm during the finale so my DirecTv signal flickered off a couple a times at the end of the episode. S P O I L E R S P A C E Was Noah aka Horn Rimmed Glasses Dad the one to pull the trigger on Nathan Petrelli? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No body said anything about the Heroes Finale last week. Wow, things sure have changes since last season. Any thoughts? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie
sigh...took all of my joy for today...LOL! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:09 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie I regret to inform you all that I am no longer qualified to be sacrificial material, as I have, recently and unexpectedly, become a Yahu Group Owner. They consider it bad form to butcher their own... MAR-tin. MARtin. HACK! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie I've angered the Yahu Gods. You must sacrifice me on the altar, to save the site... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Something is really up with yahoo. Now they are refusing my approvals of so-called spam messages and saying that scifinoir2 does not exist.. I went on the site today and there were 15 new messages. I had just checked a day ago when there were 28 spam messages that I approved. Ironically, none of the messages were real spam messages Astromancer wrote: Boy, is this old stuff! Astromancer wrote: Ahem...that was 'stripper with a heart'...granted, for a sci-fi fix it would work, but it just nags me how they wasted such a good story idea for the 'quick money' format...I felt the same way about Stargate...I was more entertained by the Bill McKay novels based on the movie... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I don't think it was a masterpiece, but for home video viewing, it was fun if your bored and need your scifi fix. That being said, I had a problem with the hooker with a heart cliche, a long with probably scores of other chiches (sorry sp.) You also had to check your logic at the door. But if you watch these flicks with other scifi buffs, laughing and joking around about the corny factor is fun. Maybe I wound not have enjoyed them if I had watched them alone. I don't know Astromancer wrote: Now about Independence Day...did not and still do not like it...just another good idea thrown away in lieu of sensationalism...but that's my opinion about Dean Devlin's work... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I never got into the toon either. I did not think it was a cinematic masterpiece, but I enjoyed it is the vein of Independence Day. It was a fun adrenaline rush where you checked logic at the door. Maybe it was a movie for non-fans of the toon Astromancer wrote: Because I never watched the cartoon, I don't have the references you guys have...To be honest, the kid made the movie for me...It was written to be campy, that much I got...So with that perspective, I enjoyed it...Maybe I have a weakness for spastic nerds... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: my problem with Transformers is the incredibly lame plot and acting. I loved the FX, but i all but gagged during some of the jokes, and found the plot boring. The whole thing with the Life Spark was crap: why not just bring in the Matrix of Leadership? Why did the Spark only create evil robots if it was the genesis of the Autobots as well? what kind of stupid strategy was it to let a puny human boy run off to save the day? Him dodging and avoiding battle 'droids--even supported by the Autobots--was stupid beyond belief. Incredible looking movie, juvenile writing... -- Original message -- From: Justin Mohareb On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 PM, streetforce1 wrote: So the G.I. Joe movie is starting to get buzz and cast members...but will it suck as hard at Transformers did? I hated the Transformers movie and not another of my favorite 80's cartoons is coming to live. Aug 2009 is the release date of the movie. The Army bits in Transformers made me think they'd originally planned it to be a GI Joe/Transformers crossover. The biggest problem I had with TF was that they killed the black robot first. In fact, I think he's the only Autobot that bought
RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun
LOLLOL! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:07 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun (making Sign of the Cross in direction of C_t) Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Actually, since I have internet, phone, and cable through them, my Comcast bill is lower than just my phone bill was with ATT/SBC. That's why I kept them after the $99.00 special was over. Knave! :o) Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Then you are insufferably rich and don't miss the cash they syphon off you...(just my opinion) Signed Extremely Cash Deficient Individual Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I love Comcast. Bring it on! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Comcrap was correct...(grumble) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You can see the who one-hour uninterrupted if you have Comcrap- I mean comcast on demand. They have under the nicktoons category as one episode. I saw it yesterday KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: last night was the rerun, but only part one of the one-hour Black Sun. So check next week for part 2, which is the better half. . Avatar is running ten all new episodes. I think they may have done the first batch of ten, so keep watch and see if the show starts reruning next week -- Original message -- From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com D'OH! And I have no excuse, as the movie I'd been watching went off twenty minutes before it came on. And I bet I've missed any possible repeat now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Keith and any others who watch Avatar. Did you see the two part episode where that attack the fire nation? I thought it was fantastic, but it left me very sad. I can't believe this little Nicktoon has had such an impact on me. I was a little disappointed about what Azula knew. What did you think about it? If you post spoilers, post a warning at the top. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you
RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun
Sorry! Didn't mean to denigrate your status! :o) Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:07 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun I prefer peasent. Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Knave! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun (Another Extremely Cash Deficient Individual applauds...) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com wrote: Then you are insufferably rich and don't miss the cash they syphon off you...(just my opinion) Signed Extremely Cash Deficient Individual Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I love Comcast. Bring it on! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Comcrap was correct...(grumble) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You can see the who one-hour uninterrupted if you have Comcrap- I mean comcast on demand. They have under the nicktoons category as one episode. I saw it yesterday KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: last night was the rerun, but only part one of the one-hour Black Sun. So check next week for part 2, which is the better half. . Avatar is running ten all new episodes. I think they may have done the first batch of ten, so keep watch and see if the show starts reruning next week -- Original message -- From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com D'OH! And I have no excuse, as the movie I'd been watching went off twenty minutes before it came on. And I bet I've missed any possible repeat now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Keith and any others who watch Avatar. Did you see the two part episode where that attack the fire nation? I thought it was fantastic, but it left me very sad. I can't believe this little Nicktoon has had such an impact on me. I was a little disappointed about what Azula knew. What did you think about it? If you post spoilers, post a warning at the top. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watch Tin Man?
god, why remind me? I reviewed Last Legion for y'all, know i have the review somewhere around here. that movie was *horrible*, unlike King Arthur, which always moves me, always leaves me wanting more... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I think that was it. There was also a recent one, The Last Legion, that seemed to do the same thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. Are you talking about Camelot, (I think that was the name), the Technicolor film from back in the day? I know at least one treatment of the Arthurian legend removed the magic. Now, King Arthur did also remove the magic, but i really like that movie.Watched it twice last week on FX -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felt like one of the two or three movies I remember about the retelling of the Arthurian legend, in which all the magic was removed. It's like art without color. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hercules was just plain awful...the rest had their moments. I wasn't too fun of merlin, though. I found it to be dull, not having either the magic of the legends, nor a good tale sans magic. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll put it even with everything you you listed, save for Hercules (which I never was able to get into). None of them wowed or insulted me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks for the comments. I'll watch it this weekend. Assuming you watched all the other scifi/fantasy miniseries of the last several years (The Odyssey, Gulliver's Travels, Arabian Nights, Hercules, Dinotopia, Merlin, etc.) how does it rank? I think some of the same team produced it as some of those others, no? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched part one last night. I found it interesting and creative reimagining of the tale but it has a lot of the typical short comings of Sci-fi channel original programing. The script and the dialogue can tend to get a little awkward. There are some cheesy plot points and the direction and editing can feel ham handed. On the flipside, it's really pretty fun so far and the story is has been both intriguing and relatively well conceived. It's good enough to drive me to finish it this weekend before my girl has to go back to Mass for another ten days of work. I'll probably netflix it when it is released on DVD in the future. I probably will not buy it. Unless my kids really want it. Bosco --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? not hearing any reviews. I have the next week-and-a-half off from work, and wondering if i should watch the miniseries, or clear up the tape for Avatar and Legion of Superheroes -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) When I realized Tin Man was a three-part miniseries, and that tonight would run it up against Heroes and K*Ville, i elected to record the whole thing and watch it this weekend in one long marathon. Anyone watch part one last night? How was it? Hoping it was as cool as the trailers led me to hope... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
All the trivial issues that we discuss. I do not think you can be on this list without being into Nerd flippery, but I think, like you that many sports enthusiasts go way beyond us Daryle wrote: I was talking to someone about pointless nerd flippery recently, and I took the position that if Sci-Fi nerds had the resources and support that sports nerds have, there would be 4 Sci-Fi Channels. I watched NFL Network for the first time last week. I was surprised at what a completely geeky experience it was. Just show me the dangon GAME. There were shows about the numbers/stats, shows about the making of the numbers. Shows about arguing the calculation of the numbers, shows dedicated to speculation, shows dedicated to fantasy teams...and this is just for the NFL!! God help us if baseball gets a channel. All we have is one channel that barely shows science fiction on a regular basis. Our Nerd flippery is nothing. On 12/10/07 7:19 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal
right wing religious conservatives aren't all racist. Many embrace people of all colors--long as they leave their own thoughts behind and completely embrace these peoples' views. And I've always noted that Blacks in America are actually in the main more conservative than most people think. Most people from the older generations in my family support the death penalty, harsh sentences, Three Strikes, bans on abortion, and any kind of rights for gays. The one thing that's always kept many black Christians from going all the way is indeed skin color: their knowledge that racism enters the picture. I think the beliefs that racism is fading, *and* the recent years' fear of homosexuality, sexual freedom, and general sin, allowed many Blacks to go all the way over to the far right. Look at the Brother (word used loosely) in Ohio who helped get Bush elected. I have friends who are black, love their color, but are absolutely far right wing. In their minds, the true Christian must be up in arms about homosexuals, immigration, fighting the godless Iraqis, and abortion. so while I think right-wing whites are sho' 'nuff more prone to have racists in their mists, since race is an aspect of being an Other, i also think this new Moral Majority of the last few years made some gains into bringing Blacks and Latinos into the fold, long as they drank the Kool-Aid. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw the Women's Murder Club or the first time on Saturday. I kind of like it. I remember there was a discussion on the list when the show first aired about whether the show was racist. While I have read the Angie Harmon is a right-wing, religious extremist and I tend to think of them as racist, I did not see any overt racism on the show. Martin wrote: Tracey, I admit that I haven't ventured near it since the pilot, secondarily because it failed to hook me right of, primarily because Women's Murder Club, airing opposite it, did. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought it was a weak Angel rip off, when I first watched it, but after the third episode, it began improving every week and I'm surprised to tell you that I like it. It still does not come close to Angel, but the storylines are getting better, they are starting to create their own unique and interesting mythology and the characters are starting to evolve. I remember there being at least one or two other ans on the list. 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Hollywood Reporter Dec-04-2007 Garlic may not repel it, sunshine may not kill it, and Moonves won't cancel it. It looks like Moonlight is close to earning a second season renewal from CBS, one of two new shows network chief Les Moonves says he feels will make a return in 2008. Moonves spent some time talking to The Hollywood Reporter about the fall season, which has been dismal in terms of new shows for nearly all the networks. NBC probably took the biggest hit, but CBS hasn't fared too well either. In fact, the only other show that would probably earn a renewal is the comedy Big Bang Theory. That's Hall of Fame batting, Moonves said, saying two hits out of five swings was something he was proud of. Shows like Moonlight represented a risky move for the network, but probably not as risky as the musical Viva Laughlin, which only lasted a few episodes before CBS yanked it from the schedule. It was a Hail Mary pass, said Moonves, shifting his analogies from baseball to football. We took it. We'll continue to do that. We continue to feel very bullish about the network television business. Moonlight has been one of fall's most consistent genre series. Although it's the least-watched CBS program on Friday night, it still is doing almost as well as Heroes on NBC and Pushing Daisies on ABC in terms of overnight ratings. Its household rating fell to a series low in its third episode, but has never really come close since, sitting a little more than half a rating point off its series premiere numbers. Bionic Woman, on the other hand, has not been so lucky for NBC. That show has lost more than half of its premiere audience, and continues to post series lows. Moonlight airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on CBS. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
I'm somewhat biased because it was shot in my old hometowm. :-) I saw Mr Brooks in the theatre, so it has been awhile. I enjoyed it. Enjoyed the anticipated twist at the end. I didn't anticipate how they would get to the ending that I expected. That's always good. And I didn't realize that two actors would be playing the same man. I missed all of the previews, I expect. I think that it was Costner's best movie since before that water movie and the Postman movie. (And I loved the novel that the Postman was based on, so I can't blame him for that one.) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are showing episodes that have actually aired on showtime. It basically because they are disparate for programming as a result of the strike. I imagine they will have to do a significant amount of editing. I'm going to keep watching on DVD. It should not be edited in my opinion. What did you think about Mr. Brooks? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Sure--I watch Dexter. Despite the fact that I came to work telling my co-workers that Showtime was scraping the bottom of the barrel by making a series about a serial killer. It is surprisingly good. I was under the impression that it completes this year. That just like many British series, it will actually have a definite ending. I am trying to imagine a sanitized Dexter on network TV. That would be a shame. Dexter's crimes have actual moral consequences for himself. I would imagine network TV would soften both the crime and its impact on the protaganist. (Much as they soften's some of the other Brit dramas that they imported to American TV) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
In a message dated 12/10/2007 12:45:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is interesting. Why did you not get into it last year? All the bad people died. There wasn't any explosion. I despise the Indian guy. I can't stand Claire. I wish someone would kill the fat detective. They killed the old guy at the end. He would have made a great recurring character. Someone needs to smack that little piano kid upside the head. He is a self righteous brat. I am tired of Hiro. I want to see more bad people. The only bad hero out there is Sylar. There needs to be a balance. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Michael Keaton hands down...His perfomance surprised me when I first saw him.. I would suppose the scripts had a lot to do with the other movie Batmen because they were all portrayed by some very competent actors... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's Hard, while I thought it was a bizarre casting decision, I ended up really liking Keaton. I'm the biggest Christian Bale fan, but I hate the goofy voice change he does when he has the tights on. I guess its both of them Martin wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Metropolis Remake Planned
Producer Thomas Schuehly (Alexander) has acquired the remake rights to Fritz Lang's 1927 silent sci-fi classic Metropolis reports Variety. Considered one of the most expensive films of its time, the movie is set in 2026 in a massive city-state characterized by its monumental skyscrapers and art-deco architecture. The film depicts the class struggle between the wealthy society of planners and thinkers, who live in luxury high above the Earth, and the workers, who live underground, toiling to sustain the lives of the privileged. Schuehly and Mario Kassar are currently in negotiations with a number of top directors to helm the pic, with a final decision expected in the next few months. -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss.
Re: [scifinoir2] Gellar Afraid of ‘Buffy’ Reprisal
(sigh) The cat's out of the bag... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Yeah Martin wrote: Astro, is that plan still on to hack the SDI sytem once it comes online, to etch her image onto the Moon's surface? Oops. That was a secret, wasn't it? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Pour it on guys, the ego is blowing up Martin wrote: What you said. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: I found out she's a natural blonde, Martin...Broke my heart too! She was one stunning brunette...but not as gorgeous as Tracey...(wink!) Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Tracey, I didn't like her shift to blonde hair. I never do, and don't see the appeal in it. I know all about the Blonde Mystique, and have been snared by it a time or three, but I still don't like it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I did not see her attractiveness until she did Gallactica [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: She could pull it off. I never could figure out why Lucy Lawless as Xena just turned me the hell on! I mean, she's pretty, but not on the level of Catherine Zeta Jones or Kristen Kreuk, but i couldn't tear my eyes away from her. Even as a blonde, something about Lawless gets me. Wish I knew why... Oh--back to the topic! Xena wouldn't be Xena without the actor who played Aries, and of course he tragically died a couple of years ago... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com Would be tough to resurrect Xena, though. It's possible, but she did p*ss off a *lot* of gods and goddesses during her run. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i can see that. i'm still wondering if her age would be an issue. i could see a return to Xena, though, as a TV movie -- Original message -- From: Mike Street I have to agree with her on her comments. Buffy was SO LOVED that to bring it back and then have it be wack would hurt so many of the fans. This is probably the same reason we haven't seen a Xena movie. Sometimes we should let sleeping dogs rest. Buffy was great on so many level I was a fan and i personally don't want to see a movie version of it. On Dec 3, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: part of Buffy's appeal was her youth, her innocence, her very physical being: the small and waifish girl who seemed so out of place in a world of monsters. It's Whedon's stock-in-trade, teh young vulnerable girl fighting overwhelming odds. Do you think that Gellar is starting to look a little old for that Buffy? I'm not saying she's old mind you, just wonder if she'd still be right for that particular role in a year or two. Will Buffy be married? Have kids? Will she have a regular 9-5 job? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Gellar Afraid of 'Buffy' Reprisal http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 By Julie Pyle Fans might still be demanding a return from Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon. Especially now that Sarah Michelle Gellar, who played Buffy Summers for seven years, isn't sure she even wants to return to the role âââ¬Ã¦ even if it hits the big screen. I have to be honest. That thought really scares me,Gellar said in an interview to Moviehole. Buffy was a movie and it didn't work because her story was longer than that. This was about a girl that you had to get to know and it took so long to figure out how to crack the ending so that people weren't upset. Of course I never say never, so I'm not saying no, but my fear would be to open something like that up again, to only end it again. Even though the series has been off the air for over four years, fan outcry still demands a continuation of the BuffyVerse. And while a feature film on the big screen may still be just a pipe dream, the world may be closer to direct-to-DVD movies featuring secondary characters. Rumors have been swirling about creator Joss Whedon directing a
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Totally unfair. They all have advantages. I think that Kilmer Clooney got robbed, becausethey could have done well n the role if they hadn't been handed the really really bad scripts. Hey, here's a question: would you guys like to see a black actor playing Batman? JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I agree about Clooney and Kilmer. Both are great actors and were excellent casting choices, but unfortunately they were working with nipple man ( the producer who though batman needed a costume with nipples) I could see a Black actor as batman. Unfortunately, Hollywood would probably cast Will Smith or Samuel Jackson Justin Mohareb wrote: Totally unfair. They all have advantages. I think that Kilmer Clooney got robbed, becausethey could have done well n the role if they hadn't been handed the really really bad scripts. Hey, here's a question: would you guys like to see a black actor playing Batman? JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Metropolis Remake Planned
Didn't Alexander suck? Of course, the director and writer matter more. I have no clue what tack they'll take for this one. Part of feels this is about as iffy as someone trying to remake Citizen Kane. -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Producer Thomas Schuehly (Alexander) has acquired the remake rights to Fritz Lang's 1927 silent sci-fi classic Metropolis reports Variety. Considered one of the most expensive films of its time, the movie is set in 2026 in a massive city-state characterized by its monumental skyscrapers and art-deco architecture. The film depicts the class struggle between the wealthy society of planners and thinkers, who live in luxury high above the Earth, and the workers, who live underground, toiling to sustain the lives of the privileged. Schuehly and Mario Kassar are currently in negotiations with a number of top directors to helm the pic, with a final decision expected in the next few months. -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I wouldn't mind a Black actor in the role. He just has to be the right one. Can't toss just *anyone* in the Cape and Cowl. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree about Clooney and Kilmer. Both are great actors and were excellent casting choices, but unfortunately they were working with nipple man ( the producer who though batman needed a costume with nipples) I could see a Black actor as batman. Unfortunately, Hollywood would probably cast Will Smith or Samuel Jackson Justin Mohareb wrote: Totally unfair. They all have advantages. I think that Kilmer Clooney got robbed, becausethey could have done well n the role if they hadn't been handed the really really bad scripts. Hey, here's a question: would you guys like to see a black actor playing Batman? JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
And, in Clooney's case, let us not spare the Evil Bastich Director That Is J__l S___r... Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Totally unfair. They all have advantages. I think that Kilmer Clooney got robbed, becausethey could have done well n the role if they hadn't been handed the really really bad scripts. Hey, here's a question: would you guys like to see a black actor playing Batman? JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
My. Aren't we bloodthirsty? ;D Myself, I'm writing this entire season off as a dream sequence. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/10/2007 12:45:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is interesting. Why did you not get into it last year? All the bad people died. There wasn't any explosion. I despise the Indian guy. I can't stand Claire. I wish someone would kill the fat detective. They killed the old guy at the end. He would have made a great recurring character. Someone needs to smack that little piano kid upside the head. He is a self righteous brat. I am tired of Hiro. I want to see more bad people. The only bad hero out there is Sylar. There needs to be a balance. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
Gymfig, you might be disappointed. Still, I'll write it up in a document and send it that way, if you'd like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/10/2007 12:55:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I missed it, probably because of Tin Man. I'll have to scope it online. I missed Tin Man because I was switching back and forth between that and Heroes. Maybe you can tell me what happened. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
Yes, Tracey. I once saw a guy get fired from a job because he was more into Fantasy Football than his job. Never met a SF geek who suffered that fate. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the trivial issues that we discuss. I do not think you can be on this list without being into Nerd flippery, but I think, like you that many sports enthusiasts go way beyond us Daryle wrote: I was talking to someone about pointless nerd flippery recently, and I took the position that if Sci-Fi nerds had the resources and support that sports nerds have, there would be 4 Sci-Fi Channels. I watched NFL Network for the first time last week. I was surprised at what a completely geeky experience it was. Just show me the dangon GAME. There were shows about the numbers/stats, shows about the making of the numbers. Shows about arguing the calculation of the numbers, shows dedicated to speculation, shows dedicated to fantasy teams...and this is just for the NFL!! God help us if baseball gets a channel. All we have is one channel that barely shows science fiction on a regular basis. Our Nerd flippery is nothing. On 12/10/07 7:19 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I love pointless nerd frippery :) Justin Mohareb wrote: This is exactly the sort of pointless nerd frippery I expect from the Sciffy channel. Or possibly my own blog. Mark Hammil's was totally awesome, though. JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 3:12 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw this poll on Scifi. I wanted to know what you guys thought. With Batman Returns about to premier, i wanted to know, Who is Your Favorite Joker? The Original - Cesar Romero Jack Nicholson The Cartoon Joker - Mark Hamil The New Joker - Heath Ledger -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watch Tin Man?
Hey, I'm evil. It's in the job description. Seriously, forgot and just remembered. Apologies for the pain. If it helps, I'll batter myself for awhile. Firefly... (sob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: god, why remind me? I reviewed Last Legion for y'all, know i have the review somewhere around here. that movie was *horrible*, unlike King Arthur, which always moves me, always leaves me wanting more... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I think that was it. There was also a recent one, The Last Legion, that seemed to do the same thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. Are you talking about Camelot, (I think that was the name), the Technicolor film from back in the day? I know at least one treatment of the Arthurian legend removed the magic. Now, King Arthur did also remove the magic, but i really like that movie.Watched it twice last week on FX -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felt like one of the two or three movies I remember about the retelling of the Arthurian legend, in which all the magic was removed. It's like art without color. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hercules was just plain awful...the rest had their moments. I wasn't too fun of merlin, though. I found it to be dull, not having either the magic of the legends, nor a good tale sans magic. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll put it even with everything you you listed, save for Hercules (which I never was able to get into). None of them wowed or insulted me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks for the comments. I'll watch it this weekend. Assuming you watched all the other scifi/fantasy miniseries of the last several years (The Odyssey, Gulliver's Travels, Arabian Nights, Hercules, Dinotopia, Merlin, etc.) how does it rank? I think some of the same team produced it as some of those others, no? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched part one last night. I found it interesting and creative reimagining of the tale but it has a lot of the typical short comings of Sci-fi channel original programing. The script and the dialogue can tend to get a little awkward. There are some cheesy plot points and the direction and editing can feel ham handed. On the flipside, it's really pretty fun so far and the story is has been both intriguing and relatively well conceived. It's good enough to drive me to finish it this weekend before my girl has to go back to Mass for another ten days of work. I'll probably netflix it when it is released on DVD in the future. I probably will not buy it. Unless my kids really want it. Bosco --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? not hearing any reviews. I have the next week-and-a-half off from work, and wondering if i should watch the miniseries, or clear up the tape for Avatar and Legion of Superheroes -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) When I realized Tin Man was a three-part miniseries, and that tonight would run it up against Heroes and K*Ville, i elected to record the whole thing and watch it this weekend in one long marathon. Anyone watch part one last night? How was it? Hoping it was as cool as the trailers led me to hope... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watch Tin Man?
Speaking of Firefly, did anyone notice that Skiffy is doing a sort of reverse-marathon with the show? Friday 7 p.m. to 3 a.m., rather than the usual span, if anyone's interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: god, why remind me? I reviewed Last Legion for y'all, know i have the review somewhere around here. that movie was *horrible*, unlike King Arthur, which always moves me, always leaves me wanting more... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I think that was it. There was also a recent one, The Last Legion, that seemed to do the same thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. Are you talking about Camelot, (I think that was the name), the Technicolor film from back in the day? I know at least one treatment of the Arthurian legend removed the magic. Now, King Arthur did also remove the magic, but i really like that movie.Watched it twice last week on FX -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felt like one of the two or three movies I remember about the retelling of the Arthurian legend, in which all the magic was removed. It's like art without color. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hercules was just plain awful...the rest had their moments. I wasn't too fun of merlin, though. I found it to be dull, not having either the magic of the legends, nor a good tale sans magic. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll put it even with everything you you listed, save for Hercules (which I never was able to get into). None of them wowed or insulted me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks for the comments. I'll watch it this weekend. Assuming you watched all the other scifi/fantasy miniseries of the last several years (The Odyssey, Gulliver's Travels, Arabian Nights, Hercules, Dinotopia, Merlin, etc.) how does it rank? I think some of the same team produced it as some of those others, no? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched part one last night. I found it interesting and creative reimagining of the tale but it has a lot of the typical short comings of Sci-fi channel original programing. The script and the dialogue can tend to get a little awkward. There are some cheesy plot points and the direction and editing can feel ham handed. On the flipside, it's really pretty fun so far and the story is has been both intriguing and relatively well conceived. It's good enough to drive me to finish it this weekend before my girl has to go back to Mass for another ten days of work. I'll probably netflix it when it is released on DVD in the future. I probably will not buy it. Unless my kids really want it. Bosco --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? not hearing any reviews. I have the next week-and-a-half off from work, and wondering if i should watch the miniseries, or clear up the tape for Avatar and Legion of Superheroes -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) When I realized Tin Man was a three-part miniseries, and that tonight would run it up against Heroes and K*Ville, i elected to record the whole thing and watch it this weekend in one long marathon. Anyone watch part one last night? How was it? Hoping it was as cool as the trailers led me to hope... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watch Tin Man?
thanks for the heads up. they did a Threshold marathon today. Looks like it's Roswell tomorrow -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of Firefly, did anyone notice that Skiffy is doing a sort of reverse-marathon with the show? Friday 7 p.m. to 3 a.m., rather than the usual span, if anyone's interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: god, why remind me? I reviewed Last Legion for y'all, know i have the review somewhere around here. that movie was *horrible*, unlike King Arthur, which always moves me, always leaves me wanting more... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I think that was it. There was also a recent one, The Last Legion, that seemed to do the same thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. Are you talking about Camelot, (I think that was the name), the Technicolor film from back in the day? I know at least one treatment of the Arthurian legend removed the magic. Now, King Arthur did also remove the magic, but i really like that movie.Watched it twice last week on FX -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felt like one of the two or three movies I remember about the retelling of the Arthurian legend, in which all the magic was removed. It's like art without color. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hercules was just plain awful...the rest had their moments. I wasn't too fun of merlin, though. I found it to be dull, not having either the magic of the legends, nor a good tale sans magic. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll put it even with everything you you listed, save for Hercules (which I never was able to get into). None of them wowed or insulted me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks for the comments. I'll watch it this weekend. Assuming you watched all the other scifi/fantasy miniseries of the last several years (The Odyssey, Gulliver's Travels, Arabian Nights, Hercules, Dinotopia, Merlin, etc.) how does it rank? I think some of the same team produced it as some of those others, no? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched part one last night. I found it interesting and creative reimagining of the tale but it has a lot of the typical short comings of Sci-fi channel original programing. The script and the dialogue can tend to get a little awkward. There are some cheesy plot points and the direction and editing can feel ham handed. On the flipside, it's really pretty fun so far and the story is has been both intriguing and relatively well conceived. It's good enough to drive me to finish it this weekend before my girl has to go back to Mass for another ten days of work. I'll probably netflix it when it is released on DVD in the future. I probably will not buy it. Unless my kids really want it. Bosco --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? not hearing any reviews. I have the next week-and-a-half off from work, and wondering if i should watch the miniseries, or clear up the tape for Avatar and Legion of Superheroes -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) When I realized Tin Man was a three-part miniseries, and that tonight would run it up against Heroes and K*Ville, i elected to record the whole thing and watch it this weekend in one long marathon. Anyone watch part one last night? How was it? Hoping it was as cool as the trailers led me to hope... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your
Re: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie
It's called the MOOOvement. Most of the members are exiles from another web site called bestandworst. I'm still there. Don't recommend it. (Sad to say it, but this is a spin-off of a group called, cleverly, the MOOvement. It was far better. The lady who owned it is a dear friend of mine, and she brought a magic to it that hasn't translated well.) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your group? Martin wrote: I regret to inform you all that I am no longer qualified to be sacrificial material, as I have, recently and unexpectedly, become a Yahu Group Owner. They consider it bad form to butcher their own... MAR-tin. MARtin. HACK! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:14 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie I've angered the Yahu Gods. You must sacrifice me on the altar, to save the site... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) aladvantage.com wrote: Something is really up with yahoo. Now they are refusing my approvals of so-called spam messages and saying that scifinoir2 does not exist.. I went on the site today and there were 15 new messages. I had just checked a day ago when there were 28 spam messages that I approved. Ironically, none of the messages were real spam messages Astromancer wrote: Boy, is this old stuff! Astromancer wrote: Ahem...that was 'stripper with a heart'...granted, for a sci-fi fix it would work, but it just nags me how they wasted such a good story idea for the 'quick money' format...I felt the same way about Stargate...I was more entertained by the Bill McKay novels based on the movie... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I don't think it was a masterpiece, but for home video viewing, it was fun if your bored and need your scifi fix. That being said, I had a problem with the hooker with a heart cliche, a long with probably scores of other chiches (sorry sp.) You also had to check your logic at the door. But if you watch these flicks with other scifi buffs, laughing and joking around about the corny factor is fun. Maybe I wound not have enjoyed them if I had watched them alone. I don't know Astromancer wrote: Now about Independence Day...did not and still do not like it...just another good idea thrown away in lieu of sensationalism...but that's my opinion about Dean Devlin's work... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I never got into the toon either. I did not think it was a cinematic masterpiece, but I enjoyed it is the vein of Independence Day. It was a fun adrenaline rush where you checked logic at the door. Maybe it was a movie for non-fans of the toon Astromancer wrote: Because I never watched the cartoon, I don't have the references you guys have...To be honest, the kid made the movie for me...It was written to be campy, that much I got...So with that perspective, I enjoyed it...Maybe I have a weakness for spastic nerds... KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: my problem with Transformers is the incredibly lame plot and acting. I loved the FX, but i all but gagged during some of the jokes, and found the plot boring. The whole thing with the Life Spark was crap: why not just bring in the Matrix of Leadership? Why did the Spark only create evil robots if it was the genesis of the Autobots as well? what kind of stupid strategy was it to let a puny human boy run off to save the day? Him dodging and avoiding battle 'droids--even supported by the Autobots--was stupid beyond belief. Incredible looking movie, juvenile writing... -- Original message -- From: Justin Mohareb On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 PM, streetforce1 wrote: So the G.I. Joe movie is starting to get buzz and cast members...but will it suck as hard at Transformers did? I hated the Transformers movie and not another of my favorite 80's cartoons is coming to live. Aug 2009 is the release date of the movie. The Army bits in Transformers made me think they'd originally planned it to be a GI Joe/Transformers crossover. The biggest problem I had with TF was that they killed the black robot first. In fact, I think he's the only Autobot that bought (bot?) it. JJ Mohareb -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy .livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Letââ,¬â¢s just
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal
Neither have I. Admittedly, there are only two Black faces on it, and one is the husband of the chief medical examiner. She, however, is very much on the ball in he rprofession. The last original ep, she attended a wedding, and left the autopsies to a top-flight replacement, a White woman, who botched the work thoroughly, forcing her to redo the work over a fax line and cellphone to clear the case. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the Women's Murder Club or the first time on Saturday. I kind of like it. I remember there was a discussion on the list when the show first aired about whether the show was racist. While I have read the Angie Harmon is a right-wing, religious extremist and I tend to think of them as racist, I did not see any overt racism on the show. Martin wrote: Tracey, I admit that I haven't ventured near it since the pilot, secondarily because it failed to hook me right of, primarily because Women's Murder Club, airing opposite it, did. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought it was a weak Angel rip off, when I first watched it, but after the third episode, it began improving every week and I'm surprised to tell you that I like it. It still does not come close to Angel, but the storylines are getting better, they are starting to create their own unique and interesting mythology and the characters are starting to evolve. I remember there being at least one or two other ans on the list. 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Hollywood Reporter Dec-04-2007 Garlic may not repel it, sunshine may not kill it, and Moonves won't cancel it. It looks like Moonlight is close to earning a second season renewal from CBS, one of two new shows network chief Les Moonves says he feels will make a return in 2008. Moonves spent some time talking to The Hollywood Reporter about the fall season, which has been dismal in terms of new shows for nearly all the networks. NBC probably took the biggest hit, but CBS hasn't fared too well either. In fact, the only other show that would probably earn a renewal is the comedy Big Bang Theory. That's Hall of Fame batting, Moonves said, saying two hits out of five swings was something he was proud of. Shows like Moonlight represented a risky move for the network, but probably not as risky as the musical Viva Laughlin, which only lasted a few episodes before CBS yanked it from the schedule. It was a Hail Mary pass, said Moonves, shifting his analogies from baseball to football. We took it. We'll continue to do that. We continue to feel very bullish about the network television business. Moonlight has been one of fall's most consistent genre series. Although it's the least-watched CBS program on Friday night, it still is doing almost as well as Heroes on NBC and Pushing Daisies on ABC in terms of overnight ratings. Its household rating fell to a series low in its third episode, but has never really come close since, sitting a little more than half a rating point off its series premiere numbers. Bionic Woman, on the other hand, has not been so lucky for NBC. That show has lost more than half of its premiere audience, and continues to post series lows. Moonlight airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on CBS. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Does Race Affect Your Intelligence?
Born a mutt with the brain of a god, baby. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Brains Are the Same Color By RICHARD E. NISBETT http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/opinion/09nisbett.html?pagewanted=2_r=1ref=opinion Ann Arbor, Mich. JAMES WATSON, the 1962 Nobel laureate, recently asserted that he was âinherently gloomy about the prospect of Africaâ and its citizens because âall our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours â whereas all the testing says not really.â Dr. Watsonâs remarks created a huge stir because they implied that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, and the controversy resulted in his resignation as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. But was he right? Is there a genetic difference between blacks and whites that condemns blacks in perpetuity to be less intelligent? The first notable public airing of the scientific question came in a 1969 article in The Harvard Educational Review by Arthur Jensen, a psychologist at the University of California, Berkeley. Dr. Jensen maintained that a 15-point difference in I.Q. between blacks and whites was mostly due to a genetic difference between the races that could never be erased. But his argument gave a misleading account of the evidence. And others who later made the same argument â Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray in âThe Bell Curve,â in 1994, for example, and just recently, William Saletan in a series of articles on Slate â have made the same mistake. In fact, the evidence heavily favors the view that race differences in I.Q. are environmental in origin, not genetic. The hereditarians begin with the assertion that 60 percent to 80 percent of variation in I.Q. is genetically determined. However, most estimates of heritability have been based almost exclusively on studies of middle-class groups. For the poor, a group that includes a substantial proportion of minorities, heritability of I.Q. is very low, in the range of 10 percent to 20 percent, according to recent research by Eric Turkheimer at the University of Virginia. This means that for the poor, improvements in environment have great potential to bring about increases in I.Q. In any case, the degree of heritability of a characteristic tells us nothing about how much the environment can affect it. Even when a trait is highly heritable (think of the height of corn plants), modifiability can also be great (think of the difference growing conditions can make). Nearly all the evidence suggesting a genetic basis for the I.Q. differential is indirect. There is, for example, the evidence that brain size is correlated with intelligence, and that blacks have smaller brains than whites. But the brain size difference between men and women is substantially greater than that between blacks and whites, yet men and women score the same, on average, on I.Q. tests. Likewise, a group of people in a community in Ecuador have a genetic anomaly that produces extremely small head sizes â and hence brain sizes. Yet their intelligence is as high as that of their unaffected relatives. Why rely on such misleading and indirect findings when we have much more direct evidence about the basis for the I.Q. gap? About 25 percent of the genes in the American black population are European, meaning that the genes of any individual can range from 100 percent African to mostly European. If European intelligence genes are superior, then blacks who have relatively more European genes ought to have higher I.Q.âs than those who have more African genes. But it turns out that skin color and ânegroidnessâ of features â both measures of the degree of a black personâs European ancestry â are only weakly associated with I.Q. (even though we might well expect a moderately high association due to the social advantages of such features). During World War II, both black and white American soldiers fathered children with German women. Thus some of these children had 100 percent European heritage and some had substantial African heritage. Tested in later childhood, the German children of the white fathers were found to have an average I.Q. of 97, and those of the black fathers had an average of 96.5, a trivial difference. If European genes conferred an advantage, we would expect that the smartest blacks would have substantial European heritage. But when a group of investigators sought out the very brightest black children in the Chicago school system and asked them about the race of their parents and grandparents, these children were found to have no greater degree of European ancestry than blacks in the population at large. Most tellingly, blood-typing tests have been used to assess the degree to which black individuals have European genes. The blood group assays show no association between degree of European heritage and I.Q.
Re: [scifinoir2] Metropolis Remake Planned
Yes, Keith, it sucked bilge water. And, again, I'm forced to quote my should-be-patented mantra... Why? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Alexander suck? Of course, the director and writer matter more. I have no clue what tack they'll take for this one. Part of feels this is about as iffy as someone trying to remake Citizen Kane. -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Producer Thomas Schuehly (Alexander) has acquired the remake rights to Fritz Lang's 1927 silent sci-fi classic Metropolis reports Variety. Considered one of the most expensive films of its time, the movie is set in 2026 in a massive city-state characterized by its monumental skyscrapers and art-deco architecture. The film depicts the class struggle between the wealthy society of planners and thinkers, who live in luxury high above the Earth, and the workers, who live underground, toiling to sustain the lives of the privileged. Schuehly and Mario Kassar are currently in negotiations with a number of top directors to helm the pic, with a final decision expected in the next few months. -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun
Hey, no prob. The lower we are, the harder it is for the Taxman to get anything out of us... Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry! Didn't mean to denigrate your status! :o) Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:07 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun I prefer peasent. Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Knave! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun (Another Extremely Cash Deficient Individual applauds...) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com wrote: Then you are insufferably rich and don't miss the cash they syphon off you...(just my opinion) Signed Extremely Cash Deficient Individual Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I love Comcast. Bring it on! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Avatar: Black Sun Comcrap was correct...(grumble) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You can see the who one-hour uninterrupted if you have Comcrap- I mean comcast on demand. They have under the nicktoons category as one episode. I saw it yesterday KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: last night was the rerun, but only part one of the one-hour Black Sun. So check next week for part 2, which is the better half. . Avatar is running ten all new episodes. I think they may have done the first batch of ten, so keep watch and see if the show starts reruning next week -- Original message -- From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com D'OH! And I have no excuse, as the movie I'd been watching went off twenty minutes before it came on. And I bet I've missed any possible repeat now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Keith and any others who watch Avatar. Did you see the two part episode where that attack the fire nation? I thought it was fantastic, but it left me very sad. I can't believe this little Nicktoon has had such an impact on me. I was a little disappointed about what Azula knew. What did you think about it? If you post spoilers, post a warning at the top. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions
Re: [scifinoir2] Gellar Afraid of ‘Buffy’ Reprisal
My bad, for killing the surprise. Still, hope you enjoy it. And, to really make you happy, Halliburton is footing the bill. Just don't tell *them* that... Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (sigh) The cat's out of the bag... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Yeah Martin wrote: Astro, is that plan still on to hack the SDI sytem once it comes online, to etch her image onto the Moon's surface? Oops. That was a secret, wasn't it? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Pour it on guys, the ego is blowing up Martin wrote: What you said. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: I found out she's a natural blonde, Martin...Broke my heart too! She was one stunning brunette...but not as gorgeous as Tracey...(wink!) Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Tracey, I didn't like her shift to blonde hair. I never do, and don't see the appeal in it. I know all about the Blonde Mystique, and have been snared by it a time or three, but I still don't like it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I did not see her attractiveness until she did Gallactica [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: She could pull it off. I never could figure out why Lucy Lawless as Xena just turned me the hell on! I mean, she's pretty, but not on the level of Catherine Zeta Jones or Kristen Kreuk, but i couldn't tear my eyes away from her. Even as a blonde, something about Lawless gets me. Wish I knew why... Oh--back to the topic! Xena wouldn't be Xena without the actor who played Aries, and of course he tragically died a couple of years ago... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com Would be tough to resurrect Xena, though. It's possible, but she did p*ss off a *lot* of gods and goddesses during her run. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i can see that. i'm still wondering if her age would be an issue. i could see a return to Xena, though, as a TV movie -- Original message -- From: Mike Street I have to agree with her on her comments. Buffy was SO LOVED that to bring it back and then have it be wack would hurt so many of the fans. This is probably the same reason we haven't seen a Xena movie. Sometimes we should let sleeping dogs rest. Buffy was great on so many level I was a fan and i personally don't want to see a movie version of it. On Dec 3, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: part of Buffy's appeal was her youth, her innocence, her very physical being: the small and waifish girl who seemed so out of place in a world of monsters. It's Whedon's stock-in-trade, teh young vulnerable girl fighting overwhelming odds. Do you think that Gellar is starting to look a little old for that Buffy? I'm not saying she's old mind you, just wonder if she'd still be right for that particular role in a year or two. Will Buffy be married? Have kids? Will she have a regular 9-5 job? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Gellar Afraid of 'Buffy' Reprisal http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 By Julie Pyle Fans might still be demanding a return from Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon. Especially now that Sarah Michelle Gellar, who played Buffy Summers for seven years, isn't sure she even wants to return to the role âââ¬Ã¦ even if it hits the big screen. I have to be honest. That thought really scares me,Gellar said in an interview to Moviehole. Buffy was a movie and it didn't work because her story was longer than that. This was about a girl that you had to get to know and it took so long to figure out how to crack the ending so that people weren't upset. Of course I never say never, so I'm not saying no, but my fear would be to open something like that up again, to only end it again. Even though the series has been off the air for over four years, fan outcry still demands a continuation of the BuffyVerse. And while a feature film on
Re: [scifinoir2] CBS Has Its Eye On 'Dexter'
Thanks, Tracey. Again, the obvious gets by the aged... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest renting, as they are going to have to do a lot of editing if it makes it to CBS Martin wrote: Don't have Showtime. (Refuse to pay Evil Comcast a dime more than necessary, and add in the fact that I can't even get the digital service I help pay for now to work evenly...might give it a look, if it slides over to the Eyeball Network. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Any Dexter Fans here. Since I got disgusted with Showtime for continuing to repeatedly abandon its speculative fiction series, I never got a chance to check out Dexter. However a two weeks ago, after really getting into the movie Mr. Brooks, I decided to check it out. I rented the first four episodes of the first season and I am hooked. Are any of you into this show. The strike is forcing CBS, to air it on its main network. By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Dec-04-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424509.html Just as the Writers Guild of America strike was about to begin, various news outlets -- including SyFy Portal -- talked about how the major broadcast networks may look to their cable properties to help fill out their winter and spring schedules. CBS was the first to publicly admit they are doing just that as they are looking at ways of bringing shows like Dexter and Weeds over in sanitized form from Showtime. CBS is looking to bring the series starring Michael C. Hall as a Miami Police Department investigator who murders bad guys in his spare time. Showtime has had an increase of more than 1 million subscribers in the past year with David Duchovny's new series, Californication, recently picking up a foreign distribution deal worth $800,000 ... per episode. Click here to find out more! Les Moonves, president and chief executive of CBS Corp., teased the possibility of moving Showtime programming to CBS at the 35th Annual Global Media Communications Conference in New York City, according to TV Week. Whether other networks follow suit with their cable channels is more of a matter of when than if it seems, which means reruns of shows like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka could end up on the NBC schedule. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie
Please remember at all times...*eeeviiil*... (pointing at self) Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sigh...took all of my joy for today...LOL! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:09 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie I regret to inform you all that I am no longer qualified to be sacrificial material, as I have, recently and unexpectedly, become a Yahu Group Owner. They consider it bad form to butcher their own... MAR-tin. MARtin. HACK! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe - The Movie I've angered the Yahu Gods. You must sacrifice me on the altar, to save the site... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Something is really up with yahoo. Now they are refusing my approvals of so-called spam messages and saying that scifinoir2 does not exist.. I went on the site today and there were 15 new messages. I had just checked a day ago when there were 28 spam messages that I approved. Ironically, none of the messages were real spam messages Astromancer wrote: Boy, is this old stuff! Astromancer wrote: Ahem...that was 'stripper with a heart'...granted, for a sci-fi fix it would work, but it just nags me how they wasted such a good story idea for the 'quick money' format...I felt the same way about Stargate...I was more entertained by the Bill McKay novels based on the movie... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I don't think it was a masterpiece, but for home video viewing, it was fun if your bored and need your scifi fix. That being said, I had a problem with the hooker with a heart cliche, a long with probably scores of other chiches (sorry sp.) You also had to check your logic at the door. But if you watch these flicks with other scifi buffs, laughing and joking around about the corny factor is fun. Maybe I wound not have enjoyed them if I had watched them alone. I don't know Astromancer wrote: Now about Independence Day...did not and still do not like it...just another good idea thrown away in lieu of sensationalism...but that's my opinion about Dean Devlin's work... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I never got into the toon either. I did not think it was a cinematic masterpiece, but I enjoyed it is the vein of Independence Day. It was a fun adrenaline rush where you checked logic at the door. Maybe it was a movie for non-fans of the toon Astromancer wrote: Because I never watched the cartoon, I don't have the references you guys have...To be honest, the kid made the movie for me...It was written to be campy, that much I got...So with that perspective, I enjoyed it...Maybe I have a weakness for spastic nerds... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: my problem with Transformers is the incredibly lame plot and acting. I loved the FX, but i all but gagged during some of the jokes, and found the plot boring. The whole thing with the Life Spark was crap: why not just bring in the Matrix of Leadership? Why did the Spark only create evil robots if it was the genesis of the Autobots as well? what kind of stupid strategy was it to let a puny human boy run off to save the day? Him dodging and avoiding battle 'droids--even supported by the Autobots--was stupid beyond belief. Incredible looking movie, juvenile writing... -- Original message -- From: Justin Mohareb On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 PM, streetforce1 wrote: So the G.I. Joe movie is starting to get buzz and cast members...but will it suck as hard at Transformers did? I hated the Transformers movie and not another of my favorite 80's cartoons is coming to live. Aug 2009 is the release date of the movie. The Army bits in Transformers made me think they'd originally planned it to be a GI Joe/Transformers crossover. The biggest
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes finale
I don't like Heroes cause it follows some of the X-men storylines to much. I think it could be a lot better. But you have to take it for what it is. They are real people with extra talents trying to make the most of it. They will not get costumes or secret rings and passwords to the underground meeting space. It is what it is... On Dec 10, 2007 9:32 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gymfig, you might be disappointed. Still, I'll write it up in a document and send it that way, if you'd like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/10/2007 12:55:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I missed it, probably because of Tin Man. I'll have to scope it online. I missed Tin Man because I was switching back and forth between that and Heroes. Maybe you can tell me what happened. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss.
Re: [scifinoir2] Metropolis Remake Planned
Cause Hollywood has lost it's way. I might as well go get the rights to M.A.S.K. or to Gem and the Holograms..find a pop star and produce the movie. On Dec 10, 2007 9:25 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Keith, it sucked bilge water. And, again, I'm forced to quote my should-be-patented mantra... Why? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Alexander suck? Of course, the director and writer matter more. I have no clue what tack they'll take for this one. Part of feels this is about as iffy as someone trying to remake Citizen Kane. -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Producer Thomas Schuehly (Alexander) has acquired the remake rights to Fritz Lang's 1927 silent sci-fi classic Metropolis reports Variety. Considered one of the most expensive films of its time, the movie is set in 2026 in a massive city-state characterized by its monumental skyscrapers and art-deco architecture. The film depicts the class struggle between the wealthy society of planners and thinkers, who live in luxury high above the Earth, and the workers, who live underground, toiling to sustain the lives of the privileged. Schuehly and Mario Kassar are currently in negotiations with a number of top directors to helm the pic, with a final decision expected in the next few months. -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss.
[scifinoir2] Solar Energy Soon to be Cheaper Than Coal
Solar Energy Soon to be Cheaper Than Coal http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/12/11/solar-energy-soon-to-be-cheaper-than-coal.aspx The Nanosolar company is working to build the world’s largest solar cell factory in California (slated to be in full production in 2008), and the world’s largest panel-assembly factory in Germany. They have successfully created a solar coating that is as thin as a layer of paint, while at the same time reducing the cost of production from $3 a watt to only 30 cents per watt. For the first time in history, solar power will be cheaper than burning coal. Nanosolar won the Popular Science Innovation of 2007 award, and they plan on producing their first product next year. They have been able to reduce the price of solar power by 90 percent. This has the potential to radically change the equation when it comes to choosing your energy sources. Sources: * Celsias.com November 23, 2007 Dr. Mercola Dr. Mercola's Comments: I am building a new office building for my practice and web team and we hope to move in in the spring of 2008, so this is an important current topic for me. It seems obvious to me that this technology will allow us to not only radically lower our utility bills, but do it with non-polluting clean solar energy. Unfortunately the commercial production of these solar cells will not start till next year, but it seems quite clear that this is industry shattering innovation. That is probably why my favorite technology reporting periodical, Popular Science, voted Nanosolar the Innovation of the 2007. There is enough energy in the sunshine that falls on the earth in one hour to satisfy the energy needs of the entire human race for ONE YEAR. We simply have to stop this crazy reliance of fossil fuels. Nanosolar seems to be the best bet I have seen to date to start this transition. The fact that most leaders of the world have been unwilling to fully endorse wide use of solar energy is most likely because they can’t make money from it – just as with the current medical paradigm; sick people are sources of profit, healthy people are not. Likewise, energy self-sufficient communities are not something these corporate and political giants are rooting for. Why Solar is a Win-Win-Win for You, Your Children and Your Environment Not only can solar power now beat out coal in terms of cost, but your children and your environment can benefit along with your budget. Coal-fired power plants are the largest source of mercury emissions in the United States, and are a major reason why many of our fish are too toxic to eat. And, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, one in 12 women of childbearing age have mercury levels in their blood that exceeds levels that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) says is safe for fetuses. The toxic effects of mercury emissions are well established. Studies from previous years have found that 40 percent of mercury emissions come from coal burning power plants and have been found to cause neurological problems. Yet the United States has been dragging its feet when it comes to regulating these emissions, and the longer we delay in adopting alternative sources of renewable, non-polluting forms of energy, the longer we put countless infants and children at risk for brain damage. In addition to mercury, which can cause numerous health problems, including damage to your central nervous system and neurological and developmental problems, coal-fired plants emit four additional pollutants: * Sulfur dioxide, the leading cause of acid rain * Nitrogen oxides, which contribute to smog-forming ground-level ozone * Carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas implicated in global warming * “Fly ash,” which are lung-damaging soot particles
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal
Harmon's Partner is a Black Man I think and there are two Asians in it as well. The woman who played Hoshi is a regular and there is another Asian woman who is a recurring character Martin wrote: Neither have I. Admittedly, there are only two Black faces on it, and one is the husband of the chief medical examiner. She, however, is very much on the ball in he rprofession. The last original ep, she attended a wedding, and left the autopsies to a top-flight replacement, a White woman, who botched the work thoroughly, forcing her to redo the work over a fax line and cellphone to clear the case. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I saw the Women's Murder Club or the first time on Saturday. I kind of like it. I remember there was a discussion on the list when the show first aired about whether the show was racist. While I have read the Angie Harmon is a right-wing, religious extremist and I tend to think of them as racist, I did not see any overt racism on the show. Martin wrote: Tracey, I admit that I haven't ventured near it since the pilot, secondarily because it failed to hook me right of, primarily because Women's Murder Club, airing opposite it, did. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought it was a weak Angel rip off, when I first watched it, but after the third episode, it began improving every week and I'm surprised to tell you that I like it. It still does not come close to Angel, but the storylines are getting better, they are starting to create their own unique and interesting mythology and the characters are starting to evolve. I remember there being at least one or two other ans on the list. 'Moonlight' On Path To Renewal http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424510.html By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Hollywood Reporter Dec-04-2007 Garlic may not repel it, sunshine may not kill it, and Moonves won't cancel it. It looks like Moonlight is close to earning a second season renewal from CBS, one of two new shows network chief Les Moonves says he feels will make a return in 2008. Moonves spent some time talking to The Hollywood Reporter about the fall season, which has been dismal in terms of new shows for nearly all the networks. NBC probably took the biggest hit, but CBS hasn't fared too well either. In fact, the only other show that would probably earn a renewal is the comedy Big Bang Theory. That's Hall of Fame batting, Moonves said, saying two hits out of five swings was something he was proud of. Shows like Moonlight represented a risky move for the network, but probably not as risky as the musical Viva Laughlin, which only lasted a few episodes before CBS yanked it from the schedule. It was a Hail Mary pass, said Moonves, shifting his analogies from baseball to football. We took it. We'll continue to do that. We continue to feel very bullish about the network television business. Moonlight has been one of fall's most consistent genre series. Although it's the least-watched CBS program on Friday night, it still is doing almost as well as Heroes on NBC and Pushing Daisies on ABC in terms of overnight ratings. Its household rating fell to a series low in its third episode, but has never really come close since, sitting a little more than half a rating point off its series premiere numbers. Bionic Woman, on the other hand, has not been so lucky for NBC. That show has lost more than half of its premiere audience, and continues to post series lows. Moonlight airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on CBS. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Gellar Afraid of ‘Buffy’ Reprisal
There was an episode of The Tick animated series where a villian was going to use a giant laser to carve his name onto the moon. In typical Tick fashion, he and Arthur arrived too late to completely save the day: the villain (was it Chairface?) was able to carve a couple letters in the Moon before they stopped him. As Tick was celebrating a victory, Arthur is looking with chagrin at the Lunar surface. The cool thing is, in all subsequent eps, that carving was shown on the surface of the Moon! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] My bad, for killing the surprise. Still, hope you enjoy it. And, to really make you happy, Halliburton is footing the bill. Just don't tell *them* that... Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (sigh) The cat's out of the bag... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Yeah Martin wrote: Astro, is that plan still on to hack the SDI sytem once it comes online, to etch her image onto the Moon's surface? Oops. That was a secret, wasn't it? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Pour it on guys, the ego is blowing up Martin wrote: What you said. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: I found out she's a natural blonde, Martin...Broke my heart too! She was one stunning brunette...but not as gorgeous as Tracey...(wink!) Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Tracey, I didn't like her shift to blonde hair. I never do, and don't see the appeal in it. I know all about the Blonde Mystique, and have been snared by it a time or three, but I still don't like it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I did not see her attractiveness until she did Gallactica [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: She could pull it off. I never could figure out why Lucy Lawless as Xena just turned me the hell on! I mean, she's pretty, but not on the level of Catherine Zeta Jones or Kristen Kreuk, but i couldn't tear my eyes away from her. Even as a blonde, something about Lawless gets me. Wish I knew why... Oh--back to the topic! Xena wouldn't be Xena without the actor who played Aries, and of course he tragically died a couple of years ago... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com Would be tough to resurrect Xena, though. It's possible, but she did p*ss off a *lot* of gods and goddesses during her run. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i can see that. i'm still wondering if her age would be an issue. i could see a return to Xena, though, as a TV movie -- Original message -- From: Mike Street I have to agree with her on her comments. Buffy was SO LOVED that to bring it back and then have it be wack would hurt so many of the fans. This is probably the same reason we haven't seen a Xena movie. Sometimes we should let sleeping dogs rest. Buffy was great on so many level I was a fan and i personally don't want to see a movie version of it. On Dec 3, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: part of Buffy's appeal was her youth, her innocence, her very physical being: the small and waifish girl who seemed so out of place in a world of monsters. It's Whedon's stock-in-trade, teh young vulnerable girl fighting overwhelming odds. Do you think that Gellar is starting to look a little old for that Buffy? I'm not saying she's old mind you, just wonder if she'd still be right for that particular role in a year or two. Will Buffy be married? Have kids? Will she have a regular 9-5 job? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Gellar Afraid of 'Buffy' Reprisal http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=82 By Julie Pyle Fans might still be demanding a return from Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon. Especially now that Sarah Michelle Gellar, who played Buffy Summers for seven years, isn't sure she even wants to return to the role âââ¬Ã¦ even if it hits the big screen. I have to be honest. That thought really scares me,Gellar said
[scifinoir2] Ice storm causes blackouts, 17 deaths
I still don't get why most power lines are above ground. I get that installing, upgrading, and repairing underground lines would be a pain (a co-worker who used to live in NYC said streets were always being torn up to work on underground lines). But like anything, once you do it and get used to it, you make it work. It just seems rather silly to me that every single year we hear all these news reports about power lines being knocked down by freezing rain, snow, or high winds. The power to my house is brought in by lines that arc across the street from a pole near a neighbor's house. They hang low enough for someone to hit 'em with a rake or something, and in high winds, they move like pendulums. Or how about the great blackout just a few years ago that started with a single tree branch in Ohio on a power line, and ended up with NYC being in a blackout? The billions of dollars it'd cost to change this part of our infrastructure would be worth it to avoid the inevitable problems w e have every single year in so many parts of this country. Not to mention, power lines running overhead is just an ugly sight... ** Ice storm causes blackouts, 17 deaths By KEN MILLER, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago A wintry storm caked the center of the nation with a thick layer of ice Monday, blacking out more than 600,000 homes and businesses, and more icy weather was on the way. At least 17 deaths in Oklahoma and Missouri were blamed on the conditions, with 15 of them killed on slick highways. A state of emergency was declared for all of Oklahoma, where the sound of branches snapping under the weight of the ice echoed through Oklahoma City. You can hear them falling everywhere, Lonnie Compton said Monday as he shoveled ice off his driveway. The National Weather Service posted ice and winter storm warnings Tuesday for parts of Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois. Missouri declared an emergency on Sunday and put the National Guard on alert. Oklahoma utilities said a half-million customers were blacked out as power lines snapped under the weight of ice and falling tree branches, the biggest power outage in state history, and utilities in Missouri said more than 100,000 homes and business had no power there. If you do the math, probably one out of three Oklahomans has no electricity at this point, said Gil Broyles, a spokesman for Oklahoma Gas Electric, the state's largest utility. Roughly 11,000 customers were blacked out in southern Illinois and more than 5,000 had no electric heat or lights in Kansas, where Gov. Kathleen Sebelius declared a statewide state of emergency. At O'Hare International Airport, about 100 flights were canceled by Monday afternoon, with delays of about 45 minutes, said Chicago Department of Aviation spokeswoman Karen Pride. No flights were canceled at Midway Airport, but a handful of flights were delayed about an hour, she said. Ice was as much as an inch thick on tree limbs and power lines in parts of the region. Schools across Oklahoma were closed and some hospitals were relying on backup power generators. The Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Army Corps of Engineers sent 50 generators and three truckloads of bottled water from Texas to distribute to blacked-out areas of Oklahoma. Tulsa International Airport had no power for about 10 hours and halted flight operations for the day, and most morning flights at Will Rogers World Airport in Oklahoma City were canceled because of icy runways. Greyhound bus passengers were stranded overnight at a shelter in a church in Tulsa, and were joined by some local residents who had no heat. Portions of Interstate 35 and Interstate 44 were shut down early Monday afternoon in Oklahoma City after ice-laden power lines collapsed and fell into the roadways. Oklahoma utility officials said it could be a week or more before power was fully restored. This is a big one. We've got a massive situation here and it's probably going to be a week to 10 days before we get power on to everybody, said Ed Bettinger, a spokesman for Public Service Company. It looks like a war zone. The Oklahoma City suburb of Jones, a town of 2,500 people, had low water pressure because there was no electricity to run well pumps, and firefighters said an early morning fire destroyed most of the community's high school. Since the storm began, Tulsa firefighters have responded to dozens of structural fires, most attributable to the storm, said Sheryl Lovelady, a city spokeswoman. One person was killed by smoke inhalation in a storm-related fire, she said; she did not provide details. The icy weather stretched into the Northeast, where many schools across upstate New York were closed or started late because of icy roads. On ice-covered Interstate 40 west of Okemah, Okla., four people died in one huge cluster of an accident that involved 11 vehicles, said Highway Patrol Trooper Betsey
Re: [scifinoir2] Who is Your Favorite Joker?
I rest my case... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree about Clooney and Kilmer. Both are great actors and were excellent casting choices, but unfortunately they were working with nipple man ( the producer who though batman needed a costume with nipples) I could see a Black actor as batman. Unfortunately, Hollywood would probably cast Will Smith or Samuel Jackson Justin Mohareb wrote: Totally unfair. They all have advantages. I think that Kilmer Clooney got robbed, becausethey could have done well n the role if they hadn't been handed the really really bad scripts. Hey, here's a question: would you guys like to see a black actor playing Batman? JJ Mohareb On Dec 10, 2007 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Okay, then allow me to toss in more. Who's your favorite Batman? -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
