Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Comcrap(HIS)

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us 
all. My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, and 
they just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since they 
bought out MediaOne.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more 
robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
Boomerang (Justice League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other 
channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a 
more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
 whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
 my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
 series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
 they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
 the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html



 

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
(evil thoughts following hiss)

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Comcrap(HIS)

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My 
new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just 
signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out 
MediaOne.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more 
robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
Boomerang (Justice League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other 
channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a 
more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
 whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
 my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
 series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
 they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
 the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html



 

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
I agree with you, Keith. From the three eps of this I have caught, it doesn't 
come across as guy show-ish only through the gunplay. And that's not that 
often.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing 
in my review that deems this a guy's show. The family dynamic deals 
with--families. Husbands and wives, daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers 
and sisters. Women are very central to this show. I'm not getting where you 
draw that conclusion. If you mean because I talk about the conspiracy of the 
nuclear attacks, well, there are women central to that plot as well. and i know 
lots of and lots of women who'd find that theme interesting. And i really don't 
understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than just a bunch of nuts 
out in the woods running around, this is about the survival of real cities. As 
i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react if--some might say 
when--this happened to us. somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote 
only that it's some high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to 
guys. If I conveyed that impression from my words,
 then mea culpa. It's way more than that. It's ce
rtainly not a big mess. And like I said, maybe the superficial description of 
the plots seems obvious and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is 
anything but. You just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. 
It is definitely way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but 
survivalists and fighting.

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In a message dated 2/24/2008 1:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I need to find my early reviews of Jericho. But quickly: 

My first impression was negative, saying it seemed cliched, that i was sick 
of the Middle America angle--salt-of-the-Earth farmers facing Armaggeddon, etc. 
Thought all the domestic family stuff would get boring. But after three or 
four more shows in, i was intrigued, then, hooked. It's hard to explain unless 
you watch it for a while. simply put, the characters aren't cliched, but seem 
real. There's the son of the mayor who's having an affair with the local bar 
owner, and leaves his wife. Hell of a timing, that, which causes major 
resentment. There's Skeet's prodigal son returning, at odds with his dad, but 
brought 
together by the crisis. not an original storyline, i'll grant, but the writing, 
the characters, and the realism of it work. Nothing's easier and harder to do 
than the multi-cast disaster show, replete with little battles, family 
squabbles, etc. When done wrong, it's indeed cliched and not satisfying 
(Independence Day for example). But when done right, it actually does e
ngage you. You realize that even though the End of the World is nigh, that's 
when acting like real people--actually paying attention to all those little 
details of life, family and love--that will help you pull through. Gerald 
McRainey's character gave a speech once when the townspeople, full of fear and 
acting selfish, wanted to abandon the rescue of a bus of people down the road. 
After chastising them for letting the crisis erode their humanity, he says 
People--don't you break my heart again. Sounds corny as hell, but put 
yourself in a 
situation like that and ask yourself, who do yo ukknow who'd risk his or her 
life for you? What friends would protect you, what friends would stab you in 
the back (perhaps literally) to save themsevles. How long could we remain 
civilized?

The family dynamics are good, but if that were all, i wouldn't have gotten 
hooked. Running parallel with that is the background story: who the hell bombed 
this country, and what is to come? what's the outside world doing? At one 
point, people thought China or Russia had bombed the US. They feared Chinese 
troops taking over Kansas, Russians controlling Washingtons. Or, perhaps 
Islamist 
terrorists staging a jihad. Enter Virgil Hawkins, a mysterious Brother who 
knows ay too much about nuclear warfare for a cop from St. Louis. Quickly, 
despite their suspicions, the townspeople come to depend on Hawkins, who's not 
just 
knowledgeable, but tough, good in a fight, and a good leader. Hawkins pulls 
us into this deep conspiracy of what happened, of all the evil forces swirling 
around not just this little podunk town, but the entire US. So now, in 
addition to the family dramas, we have the Big Conspiracy angle, which is good. 
And Hawkins too has a life, as his family is in town with him, 
and we see this man who may hold the key to everything trying to win back his 
ex-wife, and regain the trust of his kids. Again, in the context in which 
it's down, it's compelling. And how cool, how refreshing to see a Black man 
giving so much screentime, and made such a smart, capable, necessary character.

If all that weren't enough, back to the how long can we remain civilized? 
thing. There's the criminal--the fahter 

[scifinoir2] Keith's network exists

2008-02-25 Thread Lockhart, Daryle


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[scifinoir2] Biodiversity 'doomsday vault' comes to life in Arctic

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
Fascinating.  I didn't know there were seed banks in the war-torn parts of the 
Middle East. I've heard of projects like this over the years, scattered 
throughout the world. Don't some facilities attempt to store actual embryoes of 
animal life, kept in cold storage for the future day when Noah will be needed 
again? What about human embryoes--any stored like this for potential 
re-population of the Earth post-Apocalypse?  

***
http://green.yahoo.com/news/afp/20080224/sc_afp/norwayarcticenvironmentwarmingcrops.html

Biodiversity 'doomsday vault' comes to life in Arctic
LONGYEARBYEN, Norway (AFP) - Aimed at providing mankind with a Noah's Ark of 
food in the event of a global catastrophe, an Arctic doomsday vault filled 
with samples of the world's most important seeds will be inaugurated here 
Tuesday.
European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Nobel Peace Prize winning 
environmentalist Wangari Matai will be among the personalities present at the 
inauguration of the vault, which has been carved into the permafrost of a 
remote Arctic mountain, just some 1,000 kilometres (620 miles) from the North 
Pole.
The vault, made up of three spacious cold chambers each measuring 27 x 10 
metres (89 x 33 feet), create a long trident-shaped tunnel bored into the 
sandstone and limestone.
It has the capacity to hold up to 4.5 million batches of seeds from all known 
varieties of the planet's main food crops, making it possible to re-establish 
plants if they disappear from their natural environment or are obliterated by 
major disasters.
The facility is built to hold twice as many varieties of agricultural crops as 
we think exist, explained Cary Fowler, executive director of the Global Crop 
Diversity Trust and project mastermind.
It will not be filled up in my lifetime, nor in my grandchildren's lifetime, 
he predicted in a phone interview with AFP.
Norway has assumed the six million euro (8.9 million dollar) charge for 
building the vault in its Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, where ironically no 
crops grow.
Secured behind an airlock door, the three airtight chambers have the capacity 
to house duplicates of samples from all the world's more than 1,400 existing 
seed banks.
Many of the more vulnerable seed banks have begun contributing to the doomsday 
vault collection, but some of the world's biodiversity has already 
disappeared, with gene vaults in both Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed by war and 
a seed bank in the Philippines annihilated by a typhoon.
By the time of the inauguration on Tuesday, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault 
should hold some 250,000 samples, which will remain the property of their 
countries of origin.
Pakistan and Kenya, both undergoing periods of serious unrest, have sent seed 
collections, while samples sent from Colombia have been closely scrutinised by 
police to avoid the project becoming a vehicle for drug trafficking.
I've been working in this field for 30 years and I thought I knew at least all 
the crops, Fowler said.
After receiving a list of all the different seeds in the vault, however, I 
must admit there are a number of crops I've never heard of before, he said.
That's a spectacular amount of diversity for Svalbard, where no trees can grow 
due to the permafrost and where the mercury plummets to an average 14 degrees 
Celsius below zero (6.8 degrees Fahrenheit) in winter.
The Norwegian archipelago, which is home to some 2,300 people, was selected not 
despite but because of its inhospitable climate, as well as its remote location 
far from civil strife.
The seeds of wheat, maize, oats and other crops will be stored at a constant 
temperature of minus 18 degrees Celsius, and even if the freezer system fails 
the permafrost will ensure that temperatures never rise above 3.5 degrees 
Celsius below freezing.
Svalbard really met all the criteria, Fowler said.
Protected by high walls of fortified concrete, an armoured door, a sensor alarm 
and the native polar bears that roam the region, the doomsday vault has been 
built 130 metres (425 feet) above current sea level -- high enough that it 
would not flood if the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt entirely due to 
global warming. 
The concrete cocoon has also been built to withstand nuclear missile attacks or 
a plunging plane, something that could come in handy in light of the 6.4-scale 
tremor -- the biggest earthquake in Norway's history -- registered near the 
archipelago on Thursday.

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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I love being hosed by 
ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyport http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
al.com/news424744.html



 

 

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There is no reason Good can't 

Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Hey Gerald, are you still working on that audio project???

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Gerald, I'll hang onto this for the 
day when I can afford to do Netflix.

Gerald Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can be come my Netflix friend by 
clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P6c8WDP88EkYDVUMgGLW

Gerald Haynes

Quotes to live by:
Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two.
Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over.
Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection.

My comics, music  thoughts:
http://www.undergroundartistry.com

- Original Message 
From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:46:37 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends. 

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 

Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
reviews, and who knows what.

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 

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[scifinoir2] The candidates and their stands on science

2008-02-25 Thread Amy Harlib

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 The candidates and their stands on science


 URL to an article from Cosmic Log
 _http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/19/678800.aspx_
 (http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/19/678800.aspx)

 First few paragraphs
 
 For weeks, science-minded activists have been urging the  presidential
 campaigns to stage a _debate  focusing on science and technology issues_
 (http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/20/528690.aspx)  - and 
 they finally got
 their wish  over the weekend. Sort of.
 Not a single presidential candidate was in sight at  Saturday's event,
 organized as part of the _American Association for the Advancement of 
 Science's_
 (http://www.aaas.org/)  annual meeting. Instead, the advisers on 
 technology
 policy for  Democratic hopefuls _Hillary Clinton_ 
 (http://www.hillaryclinton.com/)
  and _Barack Obama_ (http://www.barackobama.com/)  took turns answering
 questions about what their bosses would do if they were president. The 
 face-off
 was far too sedate to be called a debate, but in some ways it was an eerie
 reflection of the bigger, bare-knuckled battle for the Democratic 
 nomination.
 On one side of the speaker's table was Thomas Kalil, the Clinton 
 campaign's
 adviser on science, technology and innovation. Kalil spent eight  years in 
 the
 White House during the Bill Clinton administration, eventually  rising to
 become the deputy assistant to the president for technology and  economic 
 policy,
 as well as deputy director of the National Economic Council.  He's now
 assistant to the chancellor for technology policy at the University of 
 California
 at Berkeley.
 On the other side was Alec Ross, the Obama campaign's adviser on 
 technology,
 media and telecommunications. Ross is also executive vice president for
 external  affairs and co-founder of _One Economy Corp.,_
 (http://www.one-economy.com/about/default.asp)  a  nonprofit group that 
 has helped extend broadband
 networks to low-income  neighborhoods.
 In the middle was moderator Claudia Dreifus, a New York Times science
 reporter. As for the missing Republicans: John McCain's campaign  couldn't 
 arrange
 to attend in time for the last-minute addition to the meeting's  agenda, 
 said
 Albert Teich, AAAS' director of science and policy programs.
 We did not hear from Governor [Mike] Huckabee or Ron Paul, Teich told 
 the
 hundreds of attendees who filled the seats at one of the Hynes Convention
 Center's biggest meeting rooms.
 Kalil started out with a PowerPoint presentation outlining Clinton's 
 platform
 on science and technology: Spending on federal research would be doubled
 over  the course of 10 years. Tax credits for research and experimentation 
 would
 become permanent. Tuition tax credits and research fellowships would be
 expanded.
 He said Clinton endorsed the creation of a research agency for energy
 technology, an upgrade for the post of science adviser, and the 
 restoration of  the
 Office of Technology Assessment. Kalil said Clinton would restore 
 integrity
 to science policy - referring back to past cases in which the Bush
 administration was accused of bending scientific findings to fit political 
 positions.
 This is wrong and has to stop, Kalil said.



[scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread mikeamyles
Congrats, Gymfig.

I too should have replied around the time you did. Aw well, better 
late than never, eh?

You see, my spouse and I fell in love with Jericho from its 
beginings. It's weird because air times weren't always convenient 
for us, and being part of that 18 to 49 demographic, we did have 
other viewing habits (if we weren't in bed by 9 pm). Moreover, my 
spouse is not much of a sci-fi fan. I was surprised when she got 
into Jericho, was saddened when it was taken off the air, and was 
awaiting its return with much anticipation.

But get into this series we did! It would be a shame if it 
concluded too abruptly.

- Mike Myles
http://starships-rpg.com/enlist.php?recruiter=Toronto
  
 In a message dated 2/24/2008 2:02:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Only one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the 
show at all. 
 Is anyone here watching it?
 
 Wasn't that sad?  *grin* 
  
 What was so great about Jericho to begin with? It seems to me that 
they 
 should have had some more storylines before they started on the 
end of the world. 
 It is kind of like a a sitcom with kids that are already in their 
teens. You 
 really can;t have a lot of episodes  because they would be college 
age and out 
 of the house in two seasons.  It also did not help that it was 
post 9/11 or a 
 TV series of The Day After. 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Gymfig
In a message dated 2/24/2008 10:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing in my review that deems this a 
guy's show.  The family dynamic deals with--families. Husbands and wives, 
daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers and sisters.  Women are very central 
to this show. I'm not getting where you draw that conclusion. 
 
You are right. It is just rare for a guy to talk about more than action.
 
 

And i really don't understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than 
just a bunch of nuts out in the woods running around, this is about the 
survival of real cities. As i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react 
if--some might say when--this happened to us. 
That is what I am talking about. The dynamics of people when in aend of the 
world situation usually has guys as the central characters. 
 

somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote only that it's some 
high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to guys.
I got it from the previews that CBS always shows. They always show action 
shots. They never show the emotional part of the story. 
 
 

If I conveyed that impression from my words, then mea culpa. It's way more 
than that. It's ce
rtainly not a big mess. 
 A big mess   =some many different themes going on at once. 
 

And like I said, maybe the superficial description of the plots seems obvious 
and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is anything but.You 
just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. It is definitely 
way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but survivalists and 
fighting.
Mayb I should watch it. The preview for the show had a man from Wyoming 
coming in and taking over.  That is why I thought it as a man show. 



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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
it may be a bit more action-oriented in the first few eps of this season since 
there was a conflict going on with their neighboring town. Now the conspiracy 
stuff is coming into play, as the military comes in, etc. If the show is indeed 
cancelled, they may accelerate things, and *that* might make it more fast 
paced, with less time to let those family and inter-personal things I was 
praising develop. 

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
In a message dated 2/24/2008 10:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing in my review that deems this a 
guy's show. The family dynamic deals with--families. Husbands and wives, 
daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers and sisters. Women are very central 
to this show. I'm not getting where you draw that conclusion. 

You are right. It is just rare for a guy to talk about more than action.



And i really don't understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than 
just a bunch of nuts out in the woods running around, this is about the 
survival of real cities. As i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react 
if--some might say when--this happened to us. 
That is what I am talking about. The dynamics of people when in aend of the 
world situation usually has guys as the central characters. 


somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote only that it's some 
high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to guys.
I got it from the previews that CBS always shows. They always show action 
shots. They never show the emotional part of the story. 



If I conveyed that impression from my words, then mea culpa. It's way more 
than that. It's ce
rtainly not a big mess. 
 A big mess  =some many different themes going on at once. 


And like I said, maybe the superficial description of the plots seems obvious 
and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is anything but. You 
just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. It is definitely 
way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but survivalists and 
fighting.
Mayb I should watch it. The preview for the show had a man from Wyoming 
coming in and taking over. That is why I thought it as a man show. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Gymfig
 
In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:21:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

and *that* might make it more fast paced, with less time to let those family 
and inter-personal things I was praising develop. 

Do you think that some people did not like it because it had actually 
substance and was not an action show from the beginning? 
 
Also since 9/11 people did not want to think about nuclear bomb and attacks 
on America?



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Re: [scifinoir2] Biodiversity 'doomsday vault' comes to life in Arctic

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
Wouldn't surprise me if there were gene vaults, Keith. Rest assured, though- 
it's populated only by those whose genetics are just right. I'm not implying 
any Aryan-type stuff, mind you. But folks liek me with genetic ailments aren't 
in the number for certain, irregardless of intellect or money (which is almost 
certainly a considering factor).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Fascinating.  I didn't 
know there were seed banks in the war-torn parts of the Middle East. I've heard 
of projects like this over the years, scattered throughout the world. Don't 
some facilities attempt to store actual embryoes of animal life, kept in cold 
storage for the future day when Noah will be needed again? What about human 
embryoes--any stored like this for potential re-population of the Earth 
post-Apocalypse?  
 
 ***
 
http://green.yahoo.com/news/afp/20080224/sc_afp/norwayarcticenvironmentwarmingcrops.html
 
 Biodiversity 'doomsday vault' comes to life in Arctic
 LONGYEARBYEN, Norway (AFP) - Aimed at providing mankind with a Noah's Ark of 
food in the event of a global catastrophe, an Arctic doomsday vault filled 
with samples of the world's most important seeds will be inaugurated here 
Tuesday.
 European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Nobel Peace Prize 
winning environmentalist Wangari Matai will be among the personalities present 
at the inauguration of the vault, which has been carved into the permafrost of 
a remote Arctic mountain, just some 1,000 kilometres (620 miles) from the North 
Pole.
 The vault, made up of three spacious cold chambers each measuring 27 x 10 
metres (89 x 33 feet), create a long trident-shaped tunnel bored into the 
sandstone and limestone.
 It has the capacity to hold up to 4.5 million batches of seeds from all known 
varieties of the planet's main food crops, making it possible to re-establish 
plants if they disappear from their natural environment or are obliterated by 
major disasters.
 The facility is built to hold twice as many varieties of agricultural crops 
as we think exist, explained Cary Fowler, executive director of the Global 
Crop Diversity Trust and project mastermind.
 It will not be filled up in my lifetime, nor in my grandchildren's lifetime, 
he predicted in a phone interview with AFP.
 Norway has assumed the six million euro (8.9 million dollar) charge for 
building the vault in its Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, where ironically no 
crops grow.
 Secured behind an airlock door, the three airtight chambers have the capacity 
to house duplicates of samples from all the world's more than 1,400 existing 
seed banks.
 Many of the more vulnerable seed banks have begun contributing to the 
doomsday vault collection, but some of the world's biodiversity has already 
disappeared, with gene vaults in both Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed by war and 
a seed bank in the Philippines annihilated by a typhoon.
 By the time of the inauguration on Tuesday, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault 
should hold some 250,000 samples, which will remain the property of their 
countries of origin.
 Pakistan and Kenya, both undergoing periods of serious unrest, have sent seed 
collections, while samples sent from Colombia have been closely scrutinised by 
police to avoid the project becoming a vehicle for drug trafficking.
 I've been working in this field for 30 years and I thought I knew at least 
all the crops, Fowler said.
 After receiving a list of all the different seeds in the vault, however, I 
must admit there are a number of crops I've never heard of before, he said.
 That's a spectacular amount of diversity for Svalbard, where no trees can grow 
due to the permafrost and where the mercury plummets to an average 14 degrees 
Celsius below zero (6.8 degrees Fahrenheit) in winter.
 The Norwegian archipelago, which is home to some 2,300 people, was selected 
not despite but because of its inhospitable climate, as well as its remote 
location far from civil strife.
 The seeds of wheat, maize, oats and other crops will be stored at a constant 
temperature of minus 18 degrees Celsius, and even if the freezer system fails 
the permafrost will ensure that temperatures never rise above 3.5 degrees 
Celsius below freezing.
 Svalbard really met all the criteria, Fowler said.
 Protected by high walls of fortified concrete, an armoured door, a sensor 
alarm and the native polar bears that roam the region, the doomsday vault has 
been built 130 metres (425 feet) above current sea level -- high enough that it 
would not flood if the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt entirely due to 
global warming. 
 The concrete cocoon has also been built to withstand nuclear missile attacks 
or a plunging plane, something that could come in handy in light of the 
6.4-scale tremor -- the biggest earthquake in Norway's history -- registered 
near the archipelago on Thursday.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Keith's network exists

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
Oh. My. GOD!- J Quayle Higgins, Magnum, P.I.

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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
As long as no one picks up the soap, we're good... 8-O

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Uh...Yeah, 
it does...
 
 Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I love being hosed by 
ComCast. 
 Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!
 
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
 
 Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
 similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
 ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
 
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
 don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
 League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
 things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
 package
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
 Astromancer wrote:
  Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 
  KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
 posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
 asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
 Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
 
  I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.
 
  Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
 gmail.com 
  Nuts.
 
  JJ Mohareb
 
  On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
  L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
  
  Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 
 
  By MICHAEL HINMAN
  Source: SyFy Portal
  Feb-21-2008
 
  It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.
 
  Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
  finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
  endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
  season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
  to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 
  There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
  'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
  asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
  do what [CBS] had to do.
 
  Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
  worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
  helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
  is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
  struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
  of mainstream viewing habits.
 
  At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
  that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
  -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
  and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
 
  But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
  room to change their mind.
 
  If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
  I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
  have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
  campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
  down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'
 
  Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
  treated as any rumor would.
 
  Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
 
  

[scifinoir2] Clinton Supporter Stabs Obama Supporter

2008-02-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
In-Laws' Political Dispute Ends In Stabbing
UPPER PROVIDENCE, Pa. (CBS 3) ― The Montgomery County District
Attorney's Office is investigating a politically motivated stabbing that
left one in-law hospitalized and another in prison.

Authorities said brother-in-laws Jose Ortiz and Sean Shurelds were
involved in a verbal altercation over Democratic presidential hopefuls
Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton when the argument escalated into
a stabbing inside their family home on Honey Locust Court in Upper
Providence.

Authorities said Ortiz, a registered Republican and Clinton supporter,
allegedly stabbed Shurelds, an Obama supporter, in the stomach. Ortiz
told police Shurelds began to choke him, so he grabbed a knife and
stabbed him.

Shurelds was flown to an area hospital and was listed in critical
condition. He is expected to recover from his wounds.

Ortiz, 28, was jailed on $20,000 bail. He is facing charges of felony,
aggravated assault, and other related offenses.

It is a very serious charge, we see people fight over many things; some
of them very frivolous, some of them serious, the fact of the matter is
that this is the kind of argument that takes place in households across
the region, across the state, across the country, but it never turns
violent like this, Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Veti Ferman
said.

According to Pennsylvania Voting Rights, if convicted of a felony crime,
he will not be able to vote in the upcoming election.
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[scifinoir2] Dennis Letts' Chicago Tribune Obituary

2008-02-25 Thread ravenadal
www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-
hed_letts_25feb25,0,7329778.story

chicagotribune.com

Obituaries | Dennis Letts: 1934 - 2008

Actor's dream came true in his son's play

Despite cancer, Broadway show went on for Chicago author's dad

By Chris Jones

Tribune reporter

February 25, 2008

NEW YORK

Dennis Letts, 73, the father of Chicago playwright Tracy Letts and a 
college professor who enjoyed Broadway acclaim in the final months of 
his life, died of cancer Friday, Feb. 22, in Tulsa, his son said.

Until his last few days, Dennis Letts was appearing on Broadway in 
his son's critically acclaimed drama, August: Osage County, a 
production of Chicago's Steppenwolf Theatre Company. Last summer in 
Chicago, Mr. Letts originated the role of Beverly Weston, a college 
professor and avuncular patriarch who was based, in part, on himself.

Mr. Letts was a professor of literature and writing for most of his 
career, which was spent mostly at Southeastern Oklahoma State 
University.

But few retired professors get to appear on Broadway in their son's 
hit play -- an unusual state of familial affairs that Mr. Letts, who 
began acting at age 50 and moved from community theaters to the Great 
White Way, clearly relished.

That cast really loved Dennis, Martha Lavey, the artistic director 
of the Steppenwolf, said Sunday. It was wonderful that he was able 
to do such a role at that point in his life.

Steve Traxler, a producer of the Broadway show, called Mr. Letts' 
death very sad news.

In a statement, Tracy Letts said that his father had been diagnosed 
with lung cancer in September, after the Chicago run of the play but 
before its move to New York.

His choice to persevere with the New York production in the face of 
his devastating diagnosis is a testament to his love for the project 
and the people involved, Letts said. Dad had a full and fascinating 
life, and 'August: Osage County' was the cherry on top.

Mr. Letts also is survived by his wife, Billie; and two other sons, 
Dana and Shawn; and a brother, Ray Don.

A service for Letts will be held Thursday in Oklahoma.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Clinton Supporter Stabs Obama Supporter

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
When they said that politics is an ugly game, they weren't kidding...

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
In-Laws' Political Dispute Ends In Stabbing
UPPER PROVIDENCE, Pa. (CBS 3) ― The Montgomery County District
Attorney's Office is investigating a politically motivated stabbing that
left one in-law hospitalized and another in prison.

Authorities said brother-in-laws Jose Ortiz and Sean Shurelds were
involved in a verbal altercation over Democratic presidential hopefuls
Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton when the argument escalated into
a stabbing inside their family home on Honey Locust Court in Upper
Providence.

Authorities said Ortiz, a registered Republican and Clinton supporter,
allegedly stabbed Shurelds, an Obama supporter, in the stomach. Ortiz
told police Shurelds began to choke him, so he grabbed a knife and
stabbed him.

Shurelds was flown to an area hospital and was listed in critical
condition. He is expected to recover from his wounds.

Ortiz, 28, was jailed on $20,000 bail. He is facing charges of felony,
aggravated assault, and other related offenses.

It is a very serious charge, we see people fight over many things; some
of them very frivolous, some of them serious, the fact of the matter is
that this is the kind of argument that takes place in households across
the region, across the state, across the country, but it never turns
violent like this, Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Veti Ferman
said.

According to Pennsylvania Voting Rights, if convicted of a felony crime,
he will not be able to vote in the upcoming election.
http://cbs3.com/topstories/Political.Stabbing.montgomery.2.662239.html





 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Dennis Letts' Chicago Tribune Obituary

2008-02-25 Thread Bosco Bosco
Thank You so much. My Mom is gonna be at the Memorial on Thursday. I
can't make it from Austin to Tulsa so I'm gonna spend Thursday
remembering a Great Man while friends and family gather at the
memorial.

B
--- ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-
 hed_letts_25feb25,0,7329778.story
 
 chicagotribune.com
 
 Obituaries | Dennis Letts: 1934 - 2008
 
 Actor's dream came true in his son's play
 
 Despite cancer, Broadway show went on for Chicago author's dad
 
 By Chris Jones
 
 Tribune reporter
 
 February 25, 2008
 
 NEW YORK
 
 Dennis Letts, 73, the father of Chicago playwright Tracy Letts and
 a 
 college professor who enjoyed Broadway acclaim in the final months
 of 
 his life, died of cancer Friday, Feb. 22, in Tulsa, his son said.
 
 Until his last few days, Dennis Letts was appearing on Broadway in 
 his son's critically acclaimed drama, August: Osage County, a 
 production of Chicago's Steppenwolf Theatre Company. Last summer in
 
 Chicago, Mr. Letts originated the role of Beverly Weston, a college
 
 professor and avuncular patriarch who was based, in part, on
 himself.
 
 Mr. Letts was a professor of literature and writing for most of his
 
 career, which was spent mostly at Southeastern Oklahoma State 
 University.
 
 But few retired professors get to appear on Broadway in their son's
 
 hit play -- an unusual state of familial affairs that Mr. Letts,
 who 
 began acting at age 50 and moved from community theaters to the
 Great 
 White Way, clearly relished.
 
 That cast really loved Dennis, Martha Lavey, the artistic
 director 
 of the Steppenwolf, said Sunday. It was wonderful that he was able
 
 to do such a role at that point in his life.
 
 Steve Traxler, a producer of the Broadway show, called Mr. Letts' 
 death very sad news.
 
 In a statement, Tracy Letts said that his father had been diagnosed
 
 with lung cancer in September, after the Chicago run of the play
 but 
 before its move to New York.
 
 His choice to persevere with the New York production in the face
 of 
 his devastating diagnosis is a testament to his love for the
 project 
 and the people involved, Letts said. Dad had a full and
 fascinating 
 life, and 'August: Osage County' was the cherry on top.
 
 Mr. Letts also is survived by his wife, Billie; and two other sons,
 
 Dana and Shawn; and a brother, Ray Don.
 
 A service for Letts will be held Thursday in Oklahoma.
 
 --
 
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 Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune
 
 
 
 


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Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Newer subscribers have received better deals than me.  Back in philly, I 
was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
better packages.  I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
because of it?

Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation, I found out the following recently.  In 1996  a  Telecom Act 
was passed that accomplished the following:

~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
of competition.

~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
license renewals.

~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach.  Together, just 
five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
prime-time viewing.

~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
Born from this was Clear Channel.

One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
`decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.


Astromancer wrote:
 Comcrap(HIS)

 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses 
 us all. My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, 
 and they just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since 
 they bought out MediaOne.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
 more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
 Boomerang (Justice League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the 
 other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying 
 for a more expensive package

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:
   
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of 

[scifinoir2] Obama Would Pick Will Smith To Play Him In Movie: He Has The Ears!

2008-02-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
WASHINGTON — Britney Spears takes a backseat to Barack Obama on an 
upcoming Entertainment Tonight as the Democratic presidential 
candidate chats about his favorite movies and stars.

His top films are three Oscar winners _ The Godfather, The Godfather: 
Part II and Lawrence of Arabia. Obama says his favorite actors are 
Jimmy Stewart, Spencer Tracy, Humphrey Bogart, Meryl Streep, Susan 
Sarandon and Angela Bassett.

Actor Will Smith is Obama's pick to play him if a movie is made about 
his life, something the two have discussed.

Will and I have talked about this because he has the ears! the 
Illinois senator said in an interview slated to air Tuesday and Wednesday.

But campaigning doesn't leave much time for him to watch movies. It's 
hard enough eating three, healthy meals a day, he said.

Sometimes when you're out in remote areas, there's not much you can 
do, Obama said. You go for a burger, that's safe. If you start getting 
fancy you could get into trouble. If you're in a place like Iowa or 
Wisconsin there's gonna be cheese on just about everything. If you start 
eating too much junk you'll never survive.

___

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[scifinoir2] Terminator: The Can't Decide Chronicles

2008-02-25 Thread Bosco Bosco
So I've watched every episode of this show online. (I know I said I
was getting cable. I'm a terrible procrastinator!!) I keep wondering
when it's gonna grow that third dimension?? 

It's not exactly bad but it's not exactly good either. There's so
much missing. The scripts are so lackluster. There's so much
possibility for some humor that never gets to see the light of day.
The characters never express any emotion of any sort. Hell,
Cameron/Summer Glau, is the most interesting and developed character
and she's an emotionless robot. I suppose I'll keep up with it and
hope but the last time I did, it was that horrid Blade Business and I
never ceased to be disappointed. I will say it's at least better than
that. 

Anybody else feel different? same?

B

I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.


  

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Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

2008-02-25 Thread Gerald Haynes
You remembered. Thanks for asking. Unfortunately, no. it kinda fell through.. 
We were able to drum up some voice actors, but only one story. I wanted acting, 
but maybe I should have recruited readers like Escape Pod. I've since started 
and stopped a music podcast. Plans are in the works to use one of my domains to 
put out as much content as I can (audio, art, text, etc.). I've skills that I 
need to start exploiting...for cash.
 
Gerald Haynes

Quotes to live by:
Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two..
Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over.
Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection.


My comics, music  thoughts:
http://www.undergroundartistry.com

- Original Message 
From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:08:06 AM
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

  Hey Gerald, are you still working on that audio project???

Martin truthseeker_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:  Gerald, I'll hang 
onto this for the day when I can afford to do Netflix.

Gerald Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: You can be come my Netflix friend 
by clicking on the following link:
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Gerald Haynes

Quotes to live by:
Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two.
Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over.
Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection.

My comics, music  thoughts:
http://www.undergro undartistry. com

- Original Message 
From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:46:37 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends. 

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
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Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
reviews, and who knows what.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Obama Would Pick Will Smith To Play Him In Movie: He Has The Ears!

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
There's something to say into this.

I'm certain of it.

Wish I could find it.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 WASHINGTON — Britney Spears takes a backseat to 
Barack Obama on an 
 upcoming Entertainment Tonight as the Democratic presidential 
 candidate chats about his favorite movies and stars.
 
 His top films are three Oscar winners _ The Godfather, The Godfather: 
 Part II and Lawrence of Arabia. Obama says his favorite actors are 
 Jimmy Stewart, Spencer Tracy, Humphrey Bogart, Meryl Streep, Susan 
 Sarandon and Angela Bassett.
 
 Actor Will Smith is Obama's pick to play him if a movie is made about 
 his life, something the two have discussed.
 
 Will and I have talked about this because he has the ears! the 
 Illinois senator said in an interview slated to air Tuesday and Wednesday.
 
 But campaigning doesn't leave much time for him to watch movies. It's 
 hard enough eating three, healthy meals a day, he said.
 
 Sometimes when you're out in remote areas, there's not much you can 
 do, Obama said. You go for a burger, that's safe. If you start getting 
 fancy you could get into trouble. If you're in a place like Iowa or 
 Wisconsin there's gonna be cheese on just about everything. If you start 
 eating too much junk you'll never survive.
 
 ___
 
 On the Net:
 
 Entertainment Tonight: http://www.etonline.com/
 
 
 
   


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Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
Hooray Deregulation! :P

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Newer subscribers have received better deals than me.  
Back in philly, I 
 was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
 better packages.  I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
 mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
 because of it?
 
 Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
 situation, I found out the following recently.  In 1996  a  Telecom Act 
 was passed that accomplished the following:
 
 ~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
 skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
 to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
 50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
 broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
 of competition.
 
 ~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
 could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
 had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
 the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
 eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
 license renewals.
 
 ~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
 could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach.  Together, just 
 five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
 Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
 prime-time viewing.
 
 ~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
 Born from this was Clear Channel.
 
 One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
 in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
 `decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.
 
 Astromancer wrote:
  Comcrap(HIS)
 
  Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses 
  us all. My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, 
  and they just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since 
  they bought out MediaOne.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
  more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
  Boomerang (Justice League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the 
  other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying 
  for a more expensive package
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
  Astromancer wrote:

  Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
  therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
  then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
  and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
  watching it?
 
  I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
  again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
  the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
  them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
  rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they 
  didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that 
  strategy. ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.
 
  Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Nuts.
 
  JJ Mohareb
 
  On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
  L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 
 
  By MICHAEL HINMAN
  Source: SyFy Portal
  Feb-21-2008
 
  It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.
 
  Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
  finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
  endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
  season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
  to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 
  There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
  'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
  asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
  do what [CBS] had to do.
 
  Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
  worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first 

Re: [scifinoir2] Terminator: The Can't Decide Chronicles

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
Exactly how I feel, B. It's just sorta stagnant in stagnant water. But I've 
come to expect very little from Faux/Fixed/Fox (copyright pending...)

Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   So I've 
watched every episode of this show online. (I know I said I
 was getting cable. I'm a terrible procrastinator!!) I keep wondering
 when it's gonna grow that third dimension?? 
 
 It's not exactly bad but it's not exactly good either. There's so
 much missing. The scripts are so lackluster. There's so much
 possibility for some humor that never gets to see the light of day.
 The characters never express any emotion of any sort. Hell,
 Cameron/Summer Glau, is the most interesting and developed character
 and she's an emotionless robot. I suppose I'll keep up with it and
 hope but the last time I did, it was that horrid Blade Business and I
 never ceased to be disappointed. I will say it's at least better than
 that. 
 
 Anybody else feel different? same?
 
 B
 
 I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
 I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.
 
 You know these things that happen,
 That's just the way it's supposed to be.
 And I can't help but wonder,
 Don't ya know it coulda been me.
 
 __
 Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
 http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] Clinton Supporter Stabs Obama Supporter

2008-02-25 Thread Daryle Lockhart (personal e-mail)

it's Tupac v. Biggie all  over again!

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:45:46 -0500, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 When they said that politics is an ugly game, they weren't kidding...

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In-Laws' Political Dispute  
 Ends In Stabbing
 UPPER PROVIDENCE, Pa. (CBS 3) ― The Montgomery County District
 Attorney's Office is investigating a politically motivated stabbing that
 left one in-law hospitalized and another in prison.

 Authorities said brother-in-laws Jose Ortiz and Sean Shurelds were
 involved in a verbal altercation over Democratic presidential hopefuls
 Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton when the argument escalated into
 a stabbing inside their family home on Honey Locust Court in Upper
 Providence.

 Authorities said Ortiz, a registered Republican and Clinton supporter,
 allegedly stabbed Shurelds, an Obama supporter, in the stomach. Ortiz
 told police Shurelds began to choke him, so he grabbed a knife and
 stabbed him.

 Shurelds was flown to an area hospital and was listed in critical
 condition. He is expected to recover from his wounds.

 Ortiz, 28, was jailed on $20,000 bail. He is facing charges of felony,
 aggravated assault, and other related offenses.

 It is a very serious charge, we see people fight over many things; some
 of them very frivolous, some of them serious, the fact of the matter is
 that this is the kind of argument that takes place in households across
 the region, across the state, across the country, but it never turns
 violent like this, Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Veti Ferman
 said.

 According to Pennsylvania Voting Rights, if convicted of a felony crime,
 he will not be able to vote in the upcoming election.
 http://cbs3.com/topstories/Political.Stabbing.montgomery.2.662239.html





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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
...And I thought I overanalyzed things...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:21:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

and *that* might make it more fast paced, with less time to let those family 
and inter-personal things I was praising develop. 

Do you think that some people did not like it because it had actually 
substance and was not an action show from the beginning? 

Also since 9/11 people did not want to think about nuclear bomb and attacks 
on America?

**Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)

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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
(jerking upright before reaching the bar...)

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  As long as no one picks up the soap, 
we're good... 8-O

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyport http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html

Re: [scifinoir2] Terminator: The Can't Decide Chronicles

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Where online??

Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  So I've watched every episode 
of this show online. (I know I said I
was getting cable. I'm a terrible procrastinator!!) I keep wondering
when it's gonna grow that third dimension?? 

It's not exactly bad but it's not exactly good either. There's so
much missing. The scripts are so lackluster. There's so much
possibility for some humor that never gets to see the light of day.
The characters never express any emotion of any sort. Hell,
Cameron/Summer Glau, is the most interesting and developed character
and she's an emotionless robot. I suppose I'll keep up with it and
hope but the last time I did, it was that horrid Blade Business and I
never ceased to be disappointed. I will say it's at least better than
that. 

Anybody else feel different? same?

B

I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.

__
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Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
 i spend a lot of time following telecom and media matters, from the Net 
Neutrality thing, to free metropolitan wifi debates, to the ala carte 
discussion for cable selection. Bottom line is we're getting screwed in how we 
get media and info, and it's not necessarily getting any better.  The average 
American has no real idea how we're being taken..

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Newer subscribers have received better deals than me. Back in philly, I 
was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
better packages. I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
because of it?

Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation, I found out the following recently. In 1996 a Telecom Act 
was passed that accomplished the following:

~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
of competition.

~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
license renewals.

~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach. Together, just 
five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
prime-time viewing.

~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
Born from this was Clear Channel.

One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
`decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.

Astromancer wrote:
 Comcrap(HIS)

 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. 
 My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they 
 just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought 
 out MediaOne.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
 more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
 Boomerang (Justice League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the 
 other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying 
 for a more expensive package

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:
 
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not 

Re: [scifinoir2] Biodiversity 'doomsday vault' comes to life in Arctic

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
don't know what kind of genetic ailments you have, but that doesn't speak to 
your abilities or usefulness as a person

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Wouldn't surprise me if there were gene vaults, Keith. Rest assured, though- 
it's populated only by those whose genetics are just right. I'm not implying 
any Aryan-type stuff, mind you. But folks liek me with genetic ailments aren't 
in the number for certain, irregardless of intellect or money (which is almost 
certainly a considering factor).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating. I didn't know there were seed banks in 
the war-torn parts of the Middle East. I've heard of projects like this over 
the years, scattered throughout the world. Don't some facilities attempt to 
store actual embryoes of animal life, kept in cold storage for the future day 
when Noah will be needed again? What about human embryoes--any stored like this 
for potential re-population of the Earth post-Apocalypse? 

***
http://green.yahoo.com/news/afp/20080224/sc_afp/norwayarcticenvironmentwarmingcrops.html

Biodiversity 'doomsday vault' comes to life in Arctic
LONGYEARBYEN, Norway (AFP) - Aimed at providing mankind with a Noah's Ark of 
food in the event of a global catastrophe, an Arctic doomsday vault filled 
with samples of the world's most important seeds will be inaugurated here 
Tuesday.
European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Nobel Peace Prize winning 
environmentalist Wangari Matai will be among the personalities present at the 
inauguration of the vault, which has been carved into the permafrost of a 
remote Arctic mountain, just some 1,000 kilometres (620 miles) from the North 
Pole.
The vault, made up of three spacious cold chambers each measuring 27 x 10 
metres (89 x 33 feet), create a long trident-shaped tunnel bored into the 
sandstone and limestone.
It has the capacity to hold up to 4.5 million batches of seeds from all known 
varieties of the planet's main food crops, making it possible to re-establish 
plants if they disappear from their natural environment or are obliterated by 
major disasters.
The facility is built to hold twice as many varieties of agricultural crops as 
we think exist, explained Cary Fowler, executive director of the Global Crop 
Diversity Trust and project mastermind.
It will not be filled up in my lifetime, nor in my grandchildren's lifetime, 
he predicted in a phone interview with AFP.
Norway has assumed the six million euro (8.9 million dollar) charge for 
building the vault in its Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, where ironically no 
crops grow.
Secured behind an airlock door, the three airtight chambers have the capacity 
to house duplicates of samples from all the world's more than 1,400 existing 
seed banks.
Many of the more vulnerable seed banks have begun contributing to the doomsday 
vault collection, but some of the world's biodiversity has already 
disappeared, with gene vaults in both Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed by war and 
a seed bank in the Philippines annihilated by a typhoon.
By the time of the inauguration on Tuesday, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault 
should hold some 250,000 samples, which will remain the property of their 
countries of origin.
Pakistan and Kenya, both undergoing periods of serious unrest, have sent seed 
collections, while samples sent from Colombia have been closely scrutinised by 
police to avoid the project becoming a vehicle for drug trafficking.
I've been working in this field for 30 years and I thought I knew at least all 
the crops, Fowler said.
After receiving a list of all the different seeds in the vault, however, I 
must admit there are a number of crops I've never heard of before, he said.
That's a spectacular amount of diversity for Svalbard, where no trees can grow 
due to the permafrost and where the mercury plummets to an average 14 degrees 
Celsius below zero (6.8 degrees Fahrenheit) in winter.
The Norwegian archipelago, which is home to some 2,300 people, was selected not 
despite but because of its inhospitable climate, as well as its remote location 
far from civil strife.
The seeds of wheat, maize, oats and other crops will be stored at a constant 
temperature of minus 18 degrees Celsius, and even if the freezer system fails 
the permafrost will ensure that temperatures never rise above 3.5 degrees 
Celsius below freezing.
Svalbard really met all the criteria, Fowler said.
Protected by high walls of fortified concrete, an armoured door, a sensor alarm 
and the native polar bears that roam the region, the doomsday vault has been 
built 130 metres (425 feet) above current sea level -- high enough that it 
would not flood if the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt entirely due to 
global warming. 
The concrete cocoon has also been built to withstand nuclear missile attacks or 
a plunging plane, something that could come in handy in light of the 6.4-scale 
tremor -- the biggest earthquake in 

Re: [scifinoir2] Terminator: The Can't Decide Chronicles

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
agreed. I actually skipped two weeks of it in favor of other shows and didn't 
miss it. I like the charaters and no show is boring, but it's not must-see. But 
at least it's better than Bionic Woman!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Exactly how I feel, B. It's just sorta stagnant in stagnant water. But I've 
come to expect very little from Faux/Fixed/Fox (copyright pending...)

Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've watched every episode of this 
show online. (I know I said I
was getting cable. I'm a terrible procrastinator!!) I keep wondering
when it's gonna grow that third dimension?? 

It's not exactly bad but it's not exactly good either. There's so
much missing. The scripts are so lackluster. There's so much
possibility for some humor that never gets to see the light of day.
The characters never express any emotion of any sort. Hell,
Cameron/Summer Glau, is the most interesting and developed character
and she's an emotionless robot. I suppose I'll keep up with it and
hope but the last time I did, it was that horrid Blade Business and I
never ceased to be disappointed. I will say it's at least better than
that. 

Anybody else feel different? same?

B

I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.

__
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Re: [scifinoir2] Terminator: The Can't Decide Chronicles

2008-02-25 Thread Bosco Bosco
I always thought the original Bionic Woman was awful. The thought of
remaking it made me throw up a little

B
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 agreed. I actually skipped two weeks of it in favor of other shows
 and didn't miss it. I like the charaters and no show is boring, but
 it's not must-see. But at least it's better than Bionic Woman!
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Exactly how I feel, B. It's just sorta stagnant in stagnant water.
 But I've come to expect very little from Faux/Fixed/Fox (copyright
 pending...)
 
 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've watched every
 episode of this show online. (I know I said I
 was getting cable. I'm a terrible procrastinator!!) I keep
 wondering
 when it's gonna grow that third dimension?? 
 
 It's not exactly bad but it's not exactly good either. There's so
 much missing. The scripts are so lackluster. There's so much
 possibility for some humor that never gets to see the light of day.
 The characters never express any emotion of any sort. Hell,
 Cameron/Summer Glau, is the most interesting and developed
 character
 and she's an emotionless robot. I suppose I'll keep up with it and
 hope but the last time I did, it was that horrid Blade Business and
 I
 never ceased to be disappointed. I will say it's at least better
 than
 that. 
 
 Anybody else feel different? same?
 
 B
 
 I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
 I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.
 
 You know these things that happen,
 That's just the way it's supposed to be.
 And I can't help but wonder,
 Don't ya know it coulda been me.
 
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 http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
 
 
 
 
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 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,
 A Man Without A Country
 
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I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.


  

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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
OUCH!  THAT'S an image I could have done without!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:26 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



As long as no one picks up the soap, we're good... 8-O

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com wrote:
Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming 

RE: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation,
 
LOLLOL!!!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:50 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



Hooray Deregulation! :P

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Newer
subscribers have received better deals than me. Back in philly, I 
was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
better packages. I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
because of it?

Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation, I found out the following recently. In 1996 a Telecom Act 
was passed that accomplished the following:

~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
of competition.

~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
license renewals.

~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach. Together, just 
five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
prime-time viewing.

~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
Born from this was Clear Channel.

One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
`decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.

Astromancer wrote:
 Comcrap(HIS)

 Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a
package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven
months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:
 
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is
and, therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:

 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
LOLLOL!!!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



(jerking upright before reaching the bar...)

Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: As long as no one picks up the soap, we're good... 8-O

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com wrote:
Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 

_ 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of 

Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
knew I would get a chuckle out of you

Reece Jennings wrote:
 Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
 situation,
  
 LOLLOL!!!
  
  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
 http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
  
  
  

   _  

 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:50 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



 Hooray Deregulation! :P

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Newer
 subscribers have received better deals than me. Back in philly, I 
 was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
 better packages. I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
 mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
 because of it?

 Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
 situation, I found out the following recently. In 1996 a Telecom Act 
 was passed that accomplished the following:

 ~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
 skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
 to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
 50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
 broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
 of competition.

 ~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
 could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
 had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
 the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
 eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
 license renewals.

 ~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
 could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach. Together, just 
 five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
 Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
 prime-time viewing.

 ~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
 Born from this was Clear Channel.

 One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
 in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
 `decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.

 Astromancer wrote:
   
 Comcrap(HIS)

 Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a
 package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven
 months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
   
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
 
 don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
 League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
 things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
 package
   
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
   
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:

 
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is
   
 and, therefore, they take it out on the fans...
   
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
   
 posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
 asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
 Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
   
 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
   
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.
   
 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
   
 gmail.com 
   
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Same here...that's why I hate it...
  

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just curious...if one doesn't use Comcast in your areas, what are the 
other
options?
We don't have any except ATT and Dish...

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 




_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:11 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 

_ 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice
League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance