Re: [scifinoir2] for the Gamers (Roll Call: Name Your Favorite Games) Pt 2

2009-06-23 Thread Justin Mohareb
See, you're totally a minis dude.  I'm more an RPG kind of guy.  I just
finished a year long 4E game, which was ooldes of fun, and now we're playing
something similar to Dying Earth.

Very enjoyable, as well.

I'm finding board games awesome these days.  Pandemic is a cooperative game
where everyone is working to fight world spanning diseases.  Race for the
Galaxy is a card game where everyone tries to build a space empire before
the game ends.

Justin

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM, votomguy  wrote:

>
>
> As a gamer, I hate to say that I don't visit this site as often as I would
> like. (I often get sucked into gaming forums) Anywho I thought I'd try to
> revive this thread and see what happens. My favorite Games are Heavy Gear,
> Battletech, Vor: the Maelstrom, Void, & CAV. I'm currently playing Heavy
> Gear, Necromunda and I have a Primal Horizon demo on Friday. I have pics of
> some games that I've played that I wouldn't mind posting. (if it's ok with
> the admins) Like most gamers, I don't think any of the games I like would
> translate into movies, but there are Battletech, Vor, and Necromunda novels.
> I wouldn't mind seeing some Heavy Gear novels. Anywho, what are YOU playing?
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ,
> "tdemorsella"  wrote:
> >
> > Aubrey and Adrianne's post reminded me that hamers tend to stay hidden
> > on this list. Let's change that Why don't you guys come out of
> > hiding. Please declare your favorites, the ones you would like to see
> > be made into movies and those you hate. Also, tell us why.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tracey
> >
>
>  
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] for the Gamers (Roll Call: Name Your Favorite Games) Pt 2

2009-06-23 Thread wlrouge
Hi Mr. Votomguy. I have not played any of those games. But the games that I 
am playing is/are Star Trek Legacy and just recently got Ghostbusters.
--Lavender

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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:57 PM
To: 
Subject: [scifinoir2] for the Gamers (Roll Call:  Name Your Favorite Games) 
Pt 2

> As a gamer, I hate to say that I don't visit this site as often as I would 
> like. (I often get sucked into gaming forums) Anywho I thought I'd try to 
> revive this thread and see what happens. My favorite Games are Heavy Gear, 
> Battletech, Vor: the Maelstrom, Void, & CAV. I'm currently playing Heavy 
> Gear, Necromunda and I have a Primal Horizon demo on Friday. I have pics 
> of some games that I've played that I wouldn't mind posting. (if it's ok 
> with the admins) Like most gamers, I don't think any of the games I like 
> would translate into movies, but there are Battletech, Vor, and Necromunda 
> novels. I wouldn't mind seeing some Heavy Gear novels. Anywho, what are 
> YOU playing?
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "tdemorsella"  wrote:
>>
>> Aubrey and Adrianne's post reminded me that hamers tend to stay hidden
>> on this list.  Let's change that  Why don't you guys come out of
>> hiding.  Please declare your favorites, the ones you would like to see
>> be made into movies and those you hate.  Also, tell us why.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tracey
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-23 Thread B. Smith
She's highly regarded but not given the same respect as the legendary hard 
sci-fi types. Her work falls into the more literary side of the genre and in 
some ways she was more highly regarded outside the genre.  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
>
> George, it's possible, but I see her lack of props as being more a matter of 
> the mainstream SF press not knowing what the frell it's doing. IMO, they've 
> become like the music industry, more interested in the flavor of the week 
> than actual decent work. When I go to the bookstore and browse the SF/fantasy 
> shelves, the stuff I see is so derivative as to be embarrassing. Nine times 
> out of ten, I can figure out what the story inside the covers is solely by 
> what pose the characters on the cover are striking. Shouldn't be that easy, 
> even for a guy with my brain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> I've rarely seen her represented in so-called mainstream press.
> 
> 
> 
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[scifinoir2] for the Gamers (Roll Call: Name Your Favorite Games) Pt 2

2009-06-23 Thread votomguy
As a gamer, I hate to say that I don't visit this site as often as I would 
like. (I often get sucked into gaming forums) Anywho I thought I'd try to 
revive this thread and see what happens. My favorite Games are Heavy Gear, 
Battletech, Vor: the Maelstrom, Void, & CAV. I'm currently playing Heavy Gear, 
Necromunda and I have a Primal Horizon demo on Friday. I have pics of some 
games that I've played that I wouldn't mind posting. (if it's ok with the 
admins) Like most gamers, I don't think any of the games I like would translate 
into movies, but there are Battletech, Vor, and Necromunda novels. I wouldn't 
mind seeing some Heavy Gear novels. Anywho, what are YOU playing? 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "tdemorsella"  wrote:
>
> Aubrey and Adrianne's post reminded me that hamers tend to stay hidden
> on this list.  Let's change that  Why don't you guys come out of
> hiding.  Please declare your favorites, the ones you would like to see
> be made into movies and those you hate.  Also, tell us why.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Tracey 
> 





[RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-23 Thread Martin Baxter
George, it's possible, but I see her lack of props as being more a matter of 
the mainstream SF press not knowing what the frell it's doing. IMO, they've 
become like the music industry, more interested in the flavor of the week than 
actual decent work. When I go to the bookstore and browse the SF/fantasy 
shelves, the stuff I see is so derivative as to be embarrassing. Nine times out 
of ten, I can figure out what the story inside the covers is solely by what 
pose the characters on the cover are striking. Shouldn't be that easy, even for 
a guy with my brain.





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 From : George Arterberry 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


I've rarely seen her represented in so-called mainstream press.



 


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[scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-23 Thread George Arterberry

I've rarely seen her represented in so-called mainstream press.



  

[RE][scifinoir2] You Just can't fix Stupid

2009-06-23 Thread Martin Baxter
(unable to LNAO as loudly as would like, as am presently swimming in a jury 
pool)





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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Brother Voodoo gets his Doctorate

2009-06-23 Thread Martin Baxter
Have to agree with B on that. My last swing through a comics board lasted four 
hours, and left me with a list of thirty-one people I wanted dead by 
close-of-business.

And it was 4:30 p.m. at the time.





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 From : "B. Smith" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


No thanks. I've finally kicked the habit(for the most part) and I definitely 
don't miss the daily dose of stupid, bigoted drivel found on most comic boards. 


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, gwashin...@... wrote:
>
> It's already started. Just take a look at the various comic message 
> boards for details.
> 
> 
> -GTW
> 
> In a message dated 6/22/09 9:19:39 AM, daikaij...@... writes:
> 
> 
> > I can't wait to hear the fan backlash at this development.
> > 
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Brother rave, you keep throwing these yummy cookies out in front of 
> > me...
> > >
> > > And, odd thing -- I was wondering just last week who the Sorceror 
> > Supreme was, knowing that Strange was out of the position.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Date : Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:46:01 -
> > >
> > From : "ravenadal" 
> > >
> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/06/19/bendis-on-marvels-new-sorcerer-supr
> > eme-brother-voodoo/
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Voodoo
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Brother Voodoo gets his Doctorate

2009-06-23 Thread B. Smith
No thanks. I've finally kicked the habit(for the most part) and I definitely 
don't miss the daily dose of stupid, bigoted drivel found on most comic boards. 


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, gwashin...@... wrote:
>
> It's already started.   Just take a look at the various comic message 
> boards for details.
> 
> 
> -GTW
> 
> In a message dated 6/22/09 9:19:39 AM, daikaij...@... writes:
> 
> 
> > I can't wait to hear the fan backlash at this development.
> > 
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Brother rave, you keep throwing these yummy cookies out in front of 
> > me...
> > >
> > > And, odd thing -- I was wondering just last week who the Sorceror 
> > Supreme was, knowing that Strange was out of the position.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> > >
> > Subject : [scifinoir2] Brother Voodoo gets his Doctorate
> > >
> > Date : Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:46:01 -
> > >
> > From : "ravenadal" 
> > >
> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/06/19/bendis-on-marvels-new-sorcerer-supr
> > eme-brother-voodoo/
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Voodoo
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: The Sad, Strange Tale of Dwayne McDuffie

2009-06-23 Thread ravenadal
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21073

LEAD ON MCDUFFIE

Dwayne McDuffie was been talking about and deconstructing his work on "JLA" on 
the DC Message Boards. It's rare that a creator is so open and honest about the 
ins and outs of working on such a series. And it's done without malice, 
accusation or blame, just an acceptance that this is the way things work. It's 
quite an education. Here are a few highlights.


Yes, Anansi is supposed to be me, and the story arc is about my not having 
control of the stories in my book. Ironically, both [the Anansi/Vixen] story 
and the parallel Red Tornado arc were supposed to be smaller B and C plots in a 
much larger arc (involving Luthor's plan from my first arc, Starro, and 
Despero) that I wasn't able to do because of other plans in the DCU.

...

(regarding the Injustice League) I'd originally intended for that story to run 
8 issues, but it had to be cut short for Suicide Run, so I made up a new secret 
Luthor plot that tied into the dangling Per Degaton plot from Brad's run, but 
it turned out that Geoff already had plans to wrap that up, so I've come up 
with a third Luthor plot, but I'm not sure when I'll get back to it, as I'm 
fairly tightly plotted for the next couple of years. I will get to it though, 
promise.

...

Actually, my intention was to keep Red Tornado in the computer for quite a 
while (both to keep him off stage for a bit, and to set up another storyline I 
had notions of exploring), but DC needed him back in his body immediately for a 
mini-series. So, I planned the Amazo rematch as a B-plot in another story, 
unfortunately, that story had to be dropped because of something else that was 
planned in another title. So I pushed up the Vixen arc to take that place, but 
as I was writing it, I found out certain things about Final Crisis that forced 
me to cut the Vixen Arc short. Things happen. Whether I find a particular 
character interesting is entirely, and unsurprisingly, a function of what I 
find interesting, Some characters work better for me in a solo setting than a 
team setting, for instance, some characters aren't as interesting with this 
line-up than they would be with a slightly different one. That said, my 
tendency is to work with the characters I'm less interested in (Red Tornado, 
Hawkgirl, Red Arrow) more, in order to give them some face time. Batman and 
Superman don't need a showcase, they're in 6 other books a month, and I've 
written cool bits for them myself dozens of times, so they'll step to the 
background, except for a couple of times a year.

...

I did want to use the quite different version of the CSA I made up for the 
Justice League Unlimited show, but at the time, I wasn't allowed to do any 
alternate Earths.

...

I still think the multiverse is off-limits to me, along with time travel and a 
couple more areas that other DCU titles are focusing on. If that changes, I'll 
definitely pitch a road trip through some of the 52.

...

DC is giving the fans what they want, and that's big event books that have 
affect the entire line, and promotable events in the main solo titles. When 
that stuff stops selling better than regular comics, DC will stop doing them. 
Until and unless, JLA's going to have to adapt to the times. When this version 
of JLA launched, it was in a continuity bubble that left it free and clear of 
the continuity in other titles. As soon as it synched back up with the rest of 
the universe, we had to pay the tab for that freedom.

...

Looking ahead, the line-wide continuity is going to eventually line up for a 
more traditional JLA, but we're not there yet. At the moment, none of the big 
seven are available. Beyond that, The Hawks, Green Arrow, both Atoms, Captain 
Marvel and almost everyone I think of as either a big gun, or a traditional JLA 
favorite are likewise not available. So as we wait for things to settle down in 
the other titles, I'm doing "Cap's Kooky Quartet." Of course, in this case 
Captain America isn't available, either.

...

Final Crisis and other events left me without access to any of the characters 
that I want on the team. I couldn't just have everyone disappear mid-arc, so I 
had it happen on camera. Losing the big guns was a problem for me, so I decided 
to make it a problem for Black Canary. Fortunately, it also let me pull the 
trigger on the Hal Jordan League, which I've been either writing around, or 
spinning my wheels to synch up with, since my first issue on the book.

...

there are three current members of the League I wish weren't on it.

...

My plan was for Kendra to break up rather painfully with Roy, in time for that 
to be the reason Roy left the JLA (to go to the other title he was supposed to 
be going to back when I planned this). Kendra would have stayed with the team, 
but been without a romantic partner for a while. Most of the League, friends 
with Roy since he was a teen, would resent Kendra for staying on when she was 
the o