date:20100220

[scifinoir2] Babies with Laser Eyes

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

http://babieswithlasereyes.com/

Re: [scifinoir2] Rosario Dawson is Persephone in The Lightning Thief

2010-02-20 Thread Augustus Augustus

yes she is!

--- On Sun, 2/21/10, Kelwyn  wrote:

From: Kelwyn 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Rosario Dawson is Persephone in The Lightning Thief
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 12:44 AM

  http://blackgeekdom .com/blog/ 2010/02/16/ rosario-dawson- on-her-role- 
in-percy- jackson-the- olympians- the-lightning- thief/

"It has been really fun playing a goddess, I have to say. She's wild. It is 
full-on flirtatiousness. "

This depiction of Hell is sumptuous, decadent and dark, all candlelight and 
high ceilings full of Gothic detail. In Greek mythology, Persephone is abducted 
by Hades and tricked into becoming his wife and Queen of the Underworld .

She is also the goddess of springtime and Rosario first thought of wearing 
robes and flowers. But the actress wanted to go for a modern look with "chipped 
nail polish and lace" rather than a T-shirt and mini skirt.

Instead, she wears a bustle and corset. She said: "It's a little darker and 
grungier, a gothic image that I think is quite fascinating.

"It is fun to reinterpret the myths surrounding her and try to imagine her and 
place her in this world.

"She's very bitter and angry. She is violent and aggressive and it's 
fascinating because she also has innocence and sweetness and childlike 
qualities when she's not being completely bitter.

"She is also very lustful."

[scifinoir2] Rihanna added to cast of The Last Dragon

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2010/02/16/rihanna-added-to-cast-of-the-last-dragon-remake/

Rihanna is set to play a dominatrix alongside Samuel L Jackson.

The singer has long spoken of her desire to branch out into film, and has even 
taken acting lessons to help her hone her skill. She has now won a part on new 
movie The Last Dragon, a remake of the 1985 film about a boy on a quest to 
become one of the best martial artists in the world.

"She has landed an incredibly challenging role alongside Samuel L Jackson. But 
it's not a part for the faint-hearted," a source told British newspaper The 
Daily Mirror. "She will play a super sexy, super kinky dominatrix in the 
martial arts flick."

The 21-year-old has apparently been asked to fully research her role before 
shooting begins, and is contemplating spending time at a fetish club for 
inspiration. "She has been told to look into the role  and this could well 
include a trip to an S&M dungeon."

[scifinoir2] Rosario Dawson is Persephone in The Lightning Thief

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2010/02/16/rosario-dawson-on-her-role-in-percy-jackson-the-olympians-the-lightning-thief/

"It has been really fun playing a goddess, I have to say. She's wild. It is 
full-on flirtatiousness."

This depiction of Hell is sumptuous, decadent and dark, all candlelight and 
high ceilings full of Gothic detail. In Greek mythology, Persephone is abducted 
by Hades and tricked into becoming his wife and Queen of the Underworld .

She is also the goddess of springtime and Rosario first thought of wearing 
robes and flowers. But the actress wanted to go for a modern look with "chipped 
nail polish and lace" rather than a T-shirt and mini skirt.

Instead, she wears a bustle and corset. She said: "It's a little darker and 
grungier, a gothic image that I think is quite fascinating.

"It is fun to reinterpret the myths surrounding her and try to imagine her and 
place her in this world.

"She's very bitter and angry. She is violent and aggressive and it's 
fascinating because she also has innocence and sweetness and childlike 
qualities when she's not being completely bitter.

"She is also very lustful."

[scifinoir2] The Hughes Brothers to Direct the Akira Remake

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/02/akira_remake_hughes_bros.html

Vulture has learned that Warner Bros. is negotiating to reteam with The Book of 
Eli's Hughes brothers to have them direct a live-action remake of the cult 
favorite Akira, from a script by Iron Man scribes Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby. 
(Akira is being produced by Leonardo DiCaprio's company, Appian Way, along with 
Andrew Lazar, who's also currently producing an adaptation of DC Comics' Jonah 
Hex for Warners.)

[scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past Decade

2010-02-20 Thread B Smith

Wow. He always seemed pretty level headed. Sadly Simmons has gone far beyond 
that. 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Alien Nation

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Pal... now YOU have one anecdote worthy of being written down.  We expect the 
paper soon.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:40:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Alien Nation


















 



  



  
  
  That's a great movie...Met the creator Rocky O. and told him so...

"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Mr. Worf  wrote:


From: Mr. Worf 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Alien Nation
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 3:51 PM


  

Its on rotation on starz too. They show it about every other month for the last 
year. 


On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, angelababycat  
wrote:

FYI, I don't get this channel, but I noticed that 2 of the Alien Nation 
"movies" are showing on Fox Movie Channed/FMC a few times this week.

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RE: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter




"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:54:21 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI


















 



  



  
  
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"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Martin Baxter  wrote:


From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 2:12 PM


  

Welcome to the room, Tracy! Don't run screaming, please. The rest of the group 
will keep me in line. ;-) Enjoy the place, and don't hesitate to speak your 
mind in anything.



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RE: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Say it again, pal!

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:59:23 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI


















 



  



  
  
  And, by the way, ALL good science fictions shows are the ones that get 
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"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Keith Johnson  wrote:


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 1:37 PM


  



Welcome to the group! Glad you stopped lurking! :)
 
I like your movie choices of "Event Horizon" and "Brother From Another Planet". 
Those are two of my fav movies as well. I'm also a big fan of writer/director 
John Sayles, who did "Brother from Another Planet". Have you seen many of his 
other films, such as "Lone Star", "Passion Fish", "Men with Guns"? Great talent.

- Original Message -
From: "Tracy Curtis" 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:58:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

  



Hello Everyone,
I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself before.  My name is Tracy.  (I'm a female 
Tracy) I'm currently living in Madison, WI where I have a university job.  I 
joined initially because one of my students is working on a project that 
involves science fiction, speculative fiction and revisions of high school 
curriculum.  I'm teaching a class right now that involves some science fiction 
along with some speculative fiction, horror, and philosophy.  I've been 
enjoying your talks, but hadn't joined in at all because I had not properly 
introduced myself.  Sorry about the delay.  Things have been (and remain) a bit 
hectic.  


So here's my template!

Tracy


1.  Name: Tracy Curtis
2.  Location: Madison, WI
3.  Nickname/ Alias:
4.  To which Speculative Fiction Character do you relate or identify When I was 
a kid, I really identified with the girl from Escape to Witch Mountain because 
I wanted to be able to move things with my mind.  I was struck by Dana's 
predicament in Octavia Butler's Kindred.  
5.  Favorite SciFi Genres: near future speculation
6.  Favorite Scifi Movies Event Horizon, Brother from Another Planet, Tank 
Girl,Aliens, Last Angel of History
7.  Favorite SciFi TV or Online Shows  ((canceled shows ok) X-Files, Warehouse 
13
8.  Favorite SciFi Producers and Directors
9.  Favorite SciFi Characters
10. Favorite SciFi Villain:
11. Favorite SciFi Comics and Graphic Novels I'm not good at reading these.  
I'm trying more.
12.
 Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Book:
13. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Comic or Graphic Novel:
14. Favorite SciFi Film movie (s) that flopped:
15. Your SciFi Favorite  TVShow (s)that was/were canceled unfairly: Freaky 
Links, Invasion
16. Favorite Speculative Fiction Books:
17. Favorite Speculative Fiction Authors:
18. List speculative fiction stereotyped scenarios or characters that irk you: 
19. Other topics of importance to you: With my class, I've been curious about 
how readers of various backgrounds take in works with no white characters.  
20. List your own published works, if any: - nothing related
21. Your web site:
22. Favorite Scifi Web Sites:

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[scifinoir2] Re: A bittersweet life

2010-02-20 Thread Martin

Passing the word to all interested -- "Dirty Carnival" will be on Sundance at 
midnight.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
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> Its not on Netflix. I recorded it from the Sundance channel too. Netflix
> although great at rentals aren't keeping up with the movies. It bugs me that
> they don't just carry a company's entire catalog. Not to mention the many
> films that they may have on their list that they mysteriously remove without
> explanation.
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> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
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> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith"  wrote:
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> > the time to watch them.
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> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
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> > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
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> > > > > It is airing again on the Sundance channel on 2/28 at 630am!
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Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

2010-02-20 Thread C.W. Badie

And, by the way, ALL good science fictions shows are the ones that get 
cancelled...

"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Keith Johnson  wrote:


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 1:37 PM


  





Welcome to the group! Glad you stopped lurking! :)
 
I like your movie choices of "Event Horizon" and "Brother From Another Planet". 
Those are two of my fav movies as well. I'm also a big fan of writer/director 
John Sayles, who did "Brother from Another Planet". Have you seen many of his 
other films, such as "Lone Star", "Passion Fish", "Men with Guns"? Great talent.

- Original Message -
From: "Tracy Curtis" 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:58:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

  



Hello Everyone,
I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself before.  My name is Tracy.  (I'm a female 
Tracy) I'm currently living in Madison, WI where I have a university job.  I 
joined initially because one of my students is working on a project that 
involves science fiction, speculative fiction and revisions of high school 
curriculum.  I'm teaching a class right now that involves some science fiction 
along with some speculative fiction, horror, and philosophy.  I've been 
enjoying your talks, but hadn't joined in at all because I had not properly 
introduced myself.  Sorry about the delay.  Things have been (and remain) a bit 
hectic.  


So here's my template!

Tracy


1.  Name: Tracy Curtis
2.  Location: Madison, WI
3.  Nickname/ Alias:
4.  To which Speculative Fiction Character do you relate or identify When I was 
a kid, I really identified with the girl from Escape to Witch Mountain because 
I wanted to be able to move things with my mind.  I was struck by Dana's 
predicament in Octavia Butler's Kindred.  
5.  Favorite SciFi Genres: near future speculation
6.  Favorite Scifi Movies Event Horizon, Brother from Another Planet, Tank 
Girl,Aliens, Last Angel of History
7.  Favorite SciFi TV or Online Shows  ((canceled shows ok) X-Files, Warehouse 
13
8.  Favorite SciFi Producers and Directors
9.  Favorite SciFi Characters
10. Favorite SciFi Villain:
11. Favorite SciFi Comics and Graphic Novels I'm not good at reading these.  
I'm trying more.
12. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Book:
13. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Comic or Graphic Novel:
14. Favorite SciFi Film movie (s) that flopped:
15. Your SciFi Favorite  TVShow (s)that was/were canceled unfairly: Freaky 
Links, Invasion
16. Favorite Speculative Fiction Books:
17. Favorite Speculative Fiction Authors:
18. List speculative fiction stereotyped scenarios or characters that irk you: 
19. Other topics of importance to you: With my class, I've been curious about 
how readers of various backgrounds take in works with no white characters.  
20. List your own published works, if any: - nothing related
21. Your web site:
22. Favorite Scifi Web Sites:

~Tell us anything else you think is important:

On the subject line, type the word "Intro: “ and then add your name and city.  
Now post your introduction at scifino...@yahoogro ups.com.
Once Again, Welcome to SciFiNoir!!! !

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RE: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

2010-02-20 Thread C.W. Badie

...And I won't cut the leash any more...

"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Martin Baxter  wrote:

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 2:12 PM

Welcome to the room, Tracy! Don't run screaming, please. The rest of the group 
will keep me in line. ;-) Enjoy the place, and don't hesitate to speak your 
mind in anything.

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Re: [scifinoir2] movie: Doctor Who Infinite Quest?

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

Its on my laptop too. I totally forgot about it until i looked at the list
of movies on it the other day.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

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> Mr Worf, I had this as well, and it was deleted from my hard drive by
> accident (the first and ONLY time anyone other than me has ever used my
> laptop). Loved it.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:15:30 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] movie: Doctor Who Infinite Quest?
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>
>  I downloaded this movie a while back but haven't watched this yet. It is
> a Doctor Who anime made somewhere around two seasons ago. Freema Agyeman and
> David Tennent is in it.
> Here's more info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1064739/
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Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

2010-02-20 Thread Omari Confer

Hello Tracy...

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Tracy Curtis  wrote:

>
>
> Hello Everyone,
> I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself before.  My name is Tracy.  (I'm a
> female Tracy) I'm currently living in Madison, WI where I have a university
> job.  I joined initially because one of my students is working on a project
> that involves science fiction, speculative fiction and revisions of high
> school curriculum.  I'm teaching a class right now that involves some
> science fiction along with some speculative fiction, horror, and
> philosophy.  I've been enjoying your talks, but hadn't joined in at all
> because I had not properly introduced myself.  Sorry about the delay.
> Things have been (and remain) a bit hectic.
>
>
> So here's my template!
>
> Tracy
>
> 1.  Name: Tracy Curtis
> 2.  Location: Madison, WI
> 3.  Nickname/ Alias:
> 4.  To which Speculative Fiction Character do you relate or identify When I
> was a kid, I really identified with the girl from *Escape to Witch
> Mountain* because I wanted to be able to move things with my mind.  I was
> struck by Dana's predicament in Octavia Butler's *Kindred*.
> 5.  Favorite SciFi Genres: near future speculation
> 6.  Favorite Scifi Movies *Event Horizon, Brother from Another Planet*, *Tank
> Girl*,*Aliens*,* Last Angel of History*
> 7.  Favorite SciFi TV or Online Shows  ((canceled shows ok)* X-Files,
> Warehouse 13*
> 8.  Favorite SciFi Producers and Directors
> 9.  Favorite SciFi Characters
> 10. Favorite SciFi Villain:
> 11. Favorite SciFi Comics and Graphic Novels I'm not good at reading
> these.  I'm trying more.
> 12. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Book:
> 13. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Comic or Graphic Novel:
> 14. Favorite SciFi Film movie (s) that flopped:
> 15. Your SciFi Favorite  TVShow (s)that was/were canceled unfairly: Freaky
> Links, Invasion
> 16. Favorite Speculative Fiction Books:
> 17. Favorite Speculative Fiction Authors:
> 18. List speculative fiction stereotyped scenarios or characters that irk
> you:
> 19. Other topics of importance to you: With my class, I've been curious
> about how readers of various backgrounds take in works with no white
> characters.
> 20. List your own published works, if any: - nothing related
> 21. Your web site:
> 22. Favorite Scifi Web Sites:
>
> ~Tell us anything else you think is important:
>
> On the subject line, type the word "Intro: “ and then add your name and
> city.  Now post your introduction at scifino...@yahoogroups.com.
> Once Again, Welcome to SciFiNoir
>
> Sample subject line: Intro Kathy AKA Kat, Chicago, IL
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Alien Nation

2010-02-20 Thread C.W. Badie

That's a great movie...Met the creator Rocky O. and told him so...

"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Mr. Worf  wrote:

From: Mr. Worf 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Alien Nation
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 3:51 PM

Its on rotation on starz too. They show it about every other month for the last 
year. 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, angelababycat  
wrote:

FYI, I don't get this channel, but I noticed that 2 of the Alien Nation 
"movies" are showing on Fox Movie Channed/FMC a few times this week.

Angela

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Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI

2010-02-20 Thread C.W. Badie

Yeah...what he said...

"Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
>From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, brent wodehouse  wrote:


From: brent wodehouse 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 7:26 PM


  



Welcome aboard! (Please don't mind the horsey chat, lack of decorum, or
laddish behaviour. It's just our way of saying hello. :-)

Brent

Tracy Curtis  did write:
>
>Hello Everyone,
>I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself before. My name is Tracy. (I'm a
>female Tracy) I'm currently living in Madison, WI where I have a
>university job. I joined initially because one of my students is working
>on a project that involves science fiction, speculative fiction and
>revisions of high school curriculum. I'm teaching a class right now that
>involves some science fiction along with some speculative fiction,
>horror, and philosophy. I've been enjoying your talks, but hadn't joined
>in at all because I had not properly introduced myself. Sorry about the
>delay. Things have been (and remain) a bit hectic. 
>
>
>So here's my template!
>
>Tracy
>
>1. Name: Tracy Curtis
>2. Location: Madison, WI
>3. Nickname/ Alias:
>4. To which Speculative Fiction Character do you relate or identify When
>I was a kid, I really identified with the girl from Escape to Witch
>Mountain because I wanted to be able to move things with my mind.
>Alexander Key, author, yes? I was struck by Dana's predicament in
>Octavia Butler's Kindred. 
>5. Favorite SciFi Genres: near future speculation
>6. Favorite Scifi Movies Event Horizon, Brother from Another Planet,
>Tank Girl,Aliens, Last Angel of History
>7. Favorite SciFi TV or Online Shows ((canceled shows ok) X-Files,
>Warehouse 13
>8. Favorite SciFi Producers and Directors
>9. Favorite SciFi Characters
>10. Favorite SciFi Villain:
>11. Favorite SciFi Comics and Graphic Novels I'm not good at reading
>these. I'm trying more.
>12. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Book:
>13. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Comic or Graphic Novel:
>14. Favorite SciFi Film movie (s) that flopped:
>15. Your SciFi Favorite TVShow (s)that was/were canceled unfairly:
>Freaky Links, Invasion
>16. Favorite Speculative Fiction Books:
>17. Favorite Speculative Fiction Authors:
>18. List speculative fiction stereotyped scenarios or characters that irk
>you:
>19. Other topics of importance to you: With my class, I've been curious
>about how readers of various backgrounds take in works with no white
>characters. 
>20. List your own published works, if any: - nothing related
>21. Your web site:
>22. Favorite Scifi Web Sites:
>

RE: [scifinoir2] movie: Doctor Who Infinite Quest?

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Mr Worf, I had this as well, and it was deleted from my hard drive by accident 
(the first and ONLY time anyone other than me has ever used my laptop).  Loved 
it.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:15:30 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] movie: Doctor Who Infinite Quest?


















 



  



  
  
  I downloaded this movie a while back but haven't watched this yet. It is 
a Doctor Who anime made somewhere around two seasons ago. Freema Agyeman and 
David Tennent is in it. Here's more info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1064739/

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RE: [scifinoir2] movie: Bobby loves mangoes

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


I HAVE seen this before, Mr Worf. Still, thanks for the send!
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter

rave, three of my ex-SOs are doctors. At one point or another, I think they 
tried to drill some point of bio-science into me. I thank Deity that I have a 
brain capable of shutting down in times of crisis.

Martin (physics and math? Good. Bio-science? He'll be running away)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:42:33 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

  A primer is a strand of nucleic acid that serves as a starting point for 
DNA replication. They are required because the enzymes that catalyze 
replication, DNA polymerases, can only add new nucleotides to an existing 
strand of DNA. The polymerase starts replication at the 3'-end of the primer, 
and copies the opposite strand.

In most cases of natural DNA replication, the primer for DNA synthesis and 
replication is a short strand of RNA (which can be made de novo). This RNA is 
produced by primase, and is later removed and replaced with DNA by a repair 
polymerase.

Did you know that?  I didn't.  

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:

>

> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time

> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover

> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.

> 

> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how

> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.

> 

> Has anyone seen this little film?

> 

> 

> 

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[scifinoir2] movie: Doctor Who Infinite Quest?

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

I downloaded this movie a while back but haven't watched this yet. It is a
Doctor Who anime made somewhere around two seasons ago. Freema Agyeman and
David Tennent is in it.
Here's more info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1064739/
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter

Deity help me... I almost cared enough to try to rationalize that.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:56:57 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

  That brings up a couple of things that they skipped. The multiple time 
lines were totally forgotten about. It would have been interesting to see what 
would have happened if Sylar became president or NYC blew up. Or the original 
heroes first and second generations. 

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, bruce harden  
wrote:

i think the fact they had no peter parker no speed ball no steve rogers . They 
had no  one that you can like  doomed it . so me people say hiro but too me he  
was a close to asterretype as you can get . i kept hoping for the apperaance of 
the dark hiro. the charecters all did nothing but bitch and whine 

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

Mr Worf, if I'm going to go there, it won't be on a small scale. I'll be 
needing the room. ;-D

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:55:56 -0800

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

Actually a Nissan Altima can hold about 2 bodies pretty easily. :)

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

Isn't that why Deity made ballpeen hammers and '74 Lincoln Continentals (with 
extra-large trunks)? ;-) 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:10:36 -0800 

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

The problem is that great scripts can be written but the people doing the 
decision making don't have the smarts to do anything with them. 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

Mr Worf, once again you prove that we need to be doing the writing in H'Wood...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:44 -0800

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

Fast forward through the episodes. Many of them are useless and move the plot 
only incrementally. The Sylar/Peter thing bugs me although it was interesting. 

The Claire outing herself thing is the last couple of minutes of the last 
episode of the season. 

My question is what is the use of having people with superpowers and no one 
uses them? Everyone wants to "fit in." Peter could have quite literally made 
himself into Superman but they backed away from it. 

When the series started I thought that it was going to take the direction of 
being sort of a live action superhero universe where costume heroes come alive. 
Or at least show the beginnings of a world like that. 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:32 AM, angelababycat  
wrote:

The last 5 eps are hogging space in my DVR, yet I can't bring myself to watch 
even when desperately surfing channels for something other than skiing or ghost 
hunting to watch.  As I think someone else mentioned in a previous discussion, 
the carnival stuff killed it for me.  I really do want to see the part about 
Clair outing herself, but how much more torture must I endure just to see 
that!?!

Why does this keep happening to our shows?
Angela

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> I think that they just ran out of steam and didn't have a well thought out

> story line that would last this long. They stopped doing all of the cool
> things that attracted people to the show. It was as if they changed the
> format of the show without really changing anything and it broke the show.

> 
> Its like turning a comedy show into a drama.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@... wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > CANCEL â€" They destroyed the magic long ago. I do believe that the change 

> > in tone started in the middle of the first season, but I did like the whole
> > first season. Thereafter with all the new characters introduced who were
> > never developed by disappeared and all the story twists, I hung around out

> > of loyalty from the first season for a while, hoping that t

Re: [scifinoir2] 2010 Script Pimp Writing Competitions - CALL FOR ENTRIES - Deadlines: 3/1 (Early), 5/1/2010 (Regular)

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

Once you get the formatting down it isn't that hard. There are some subtle
things that are different though. There's a little more focus on the dialog
and possible scene situations vs how books flow. There are experts that do
screen adapting.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> My Pimp Pencil is strong, but I fear that I barely have time to write
> what's inf ront of me. Screenplay adapting? If I ahd another hundred years
> of life.
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:27:14 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] 2010 Script Pimp Writing Competitions - CALL FOR
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


LMNAO!!!

And, IMO, the best time-travel movie on the books is "La Jetee".

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:01 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer


















 



  



  
  
  I guess my nephew was right: FIRST, you build a time machine.  THEN, you 
go back in time.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer  wrote:

>

> Um.I dont know what movie your talking about...but the "something wrong"

> is a a bit different than you are selling it.

> 

> But it is one of the best time travel movies of all time. Period.

> 

> c w m

> 

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

> 

> >

> >

> > Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time

> > travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover

> > something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.

> >

> > This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how

> > it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.

> >

> > Has anyone seen this little film?

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!

> > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

> > 

> >

> 

> 

> 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Af the risk of arrogance (and if I could stay glued to it long enough), I 
daresay I could make sense of it. I used to be in a Yahu group of physicists, 
and we created and played around with a temporal paradox (the basic "someone 
kills your grandfathers in front of you, you have a time machine and ten 
'moves' to make" for two months. (As you go, you "get moves back" as each 
paradox hits.)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:45:42 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer


















 



  



  
  
  One reviewer said that "anybody who claims [to] fully understand what's 
going on in Primer after seeing it just once is either a savant or a liar."



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> I like the style of shooting as well, but it just kept losing me. And no, I 
> haven't seen that one.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: hellomahog...@...

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:21:58 -0800

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

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>   The style is a little heavy on the cerebral vs visual. I found it 
> interesting because of the camera style (a reality style) and the directors 
> ability to tell a story without a big budget. 

> 

> Has anyone seen the film Bobby loves Mangoes?

> 

> 

> 

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter  wrote:

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> I've seen it twice and, frankly, IMO, it's a snoozer. Great idea, lousy 
> follow-thru.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> 

> From: hellomahog...@...

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:51:38 -0800

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

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> a couple of years ago. They have been repeating it on IFC this month. Its 
> coming on IFC again on 2/28 at 3am and 11am. 

> 

> 

> 

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> 

> About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760 at 
> the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad return on 
> investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance Audience Award 
> winner would do much better at the box office, today.

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> Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film debut 
> in Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

That brings up a couple of things that they skipped. The multiple time lines
were totally forgotten about. It would have been interesting to see what
would have happened if Sylar became president or NYC blew up. Or the
original heroes first and second generations.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, bruce harden wrote:

>
>
> i think the fact they had no peter parker no speed ball no steve rogers .
> They had no  one that you can like  doomed it . so me people say hiro but
> too me he  was a close to asterretype as you can get . i kept hoping for the
> apperaance of the dark hiro. the charecters all did nothing but bitch and
> whine
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter <
> truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mr Worf, if I'm going to go there, it won't be on a small scale. I'll be
>> needing the room. ;-D
>>
>> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
>> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:55:56 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First
>> Break
>>
>>
>>  Actually a Nissan Altima can hold about 2 bodies pretty easily. :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Martin Baxter <
>> truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn't that why Deity made ballpeen hammers and '74 Lincoln Continentals
>> (with extra-large trunks)? ;-)
>>
>>
>> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
>> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:10:36 -0800
>>
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First
>> Break
>>
>>
>>  The problem is that great scripts can be written but the people doing
>> the decision making don't have the smarts to do anything with them.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Martin Baxter <
>> truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr Worf, once again you prove that we need to be doing the writing in
>> H'Wood...
>>
>> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
>> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:44 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First
>> Break
>>
>>
>>   Fast forward through the episodes. Many of them are useless and move
>> the plot only incrementally. The Sylar/Peter thing bugs me although it was
>> interesting.
>>
>> The Claire outing herself thing is the last couple of minutes of the last
>> episode of the season.
>>
>> My question is what is the use of having people with superpowers and no
>> one uses them? Everyone wants to "fit in." Peter could have quite literally
>> made himself into Superman but they backed away from it.
>>
>> When the series started I thought that it was going to take the direction
>> of being sort of a live action superhero universe where costume heroes come
>> alive. Or at least show the beginnings of a world like that.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:32 AM, angelababycat > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The last 5 eps are hogging space in my DVR, yet I can't bring myself to
>> watch even when desperately surfing channels for something other than skiing
>> or ghost hunting to watch.  As I think someone else mentioned in a previous
>> discussion, the carnival stuff killed it for me.  I really do want to see
>> the part about Clair outing herself, but how much more torture must I endure
>> just to see that!?!
>> Why does this keep happening to our shows?
>> Angela
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>> >
>> > I think that they just ran out of steam and didn't have a well thought
>> out
>> > story line that would last this long. They stopped doing all of the cool
>> > things that attracted people to the show. It was as if they changed the
>> > format of the show without really changing anything and it broke the
>> show.
>> >
>> > Its like turning a comedy show into a drama.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
>> > tdli...@... wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > CANCEL â€" They destroyed the magic long ago. I do believe that the
>> change
>>
>> > > in tone started in the middle of the first season, but I did like the
>> whole
>> > > first season. Thereafter with all the new characters introduced who
>> were
>> > > never developed by disappeared and all the story twists, I hung around
>> out
>> > > of loyalty from the first season for a while, hoping that the past
>> glory
>> > > would return, this se

[scifinoir2] movie: Bobby loves mangoes

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

I found a link on Youtube that interviews the director of the movie. You
will love this little film on time travel. Its 15 minutes. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAdYsT5wQDw   (part 1)

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y4yYc4AuDo&NR=1


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[scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

The Box in Primer is just a big DVR.  You turn it on and it records time, in 
real time, but you can only go back to a time that was "recorded" while the box 
was on.  If you turn on the Box at noon and come back at 6 pm, you can get into 
the box and go back in time to noon but it will take you 6 hours (midnight) to 
get there (noon).

Reminds me of an old Saturday Night Live skit about time travel.  This guy 
invents a time machine that only takes you forward in time.  You get in it and 
you wake up eight hours in the future.

It is called a bed.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
> 
> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
> 
> Has anyone seen this little film?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

2010-02-20 Thread bruce harden

i think the fact they had no peter parker no speed ball no steve rogers .
They had no  one that you can like  doomed it . so me people say hiro but
too me he  was a close to asterretype as you can get . i kept hoping for the
apperaance of the dark hiro. the charecters all did nothing but bitch and
whine

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, if I'm going to go there, it won't be on a small scale. I'll be
> needing the room. ;-D
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:55:56 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break
>
>
>  Actually a Nissan Altima can hold about 2 bodies pretty easily. :)
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Isn't that why Deity made ballpeen hammers and '74 Lincoln Continentals
> (with extra-large trunks)? ;-)
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:10:36 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break
>
>
>  The problem is that great scripts can be written but the people doing the
> decision making don't have the smarts to do anything with them.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Mr Worf, once again you prove that we need to be doing the writing in
> H'Wood...
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:44 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break
>
>
>   Fast forward through the episodes. Many of them are useless and move the
> plot only incrementally. The Sylar/Peter thing bugs me although it was
> interesting.
>
> The Claire outing herself thing is the last couple of minutes of the last
> episode of the season.
>
> My question is what is the use of having people with superpowers and no one
> uses them? Everyone wants to "fit in." Peter could have quite literally made
> himself into Superman but they backed away from it.
>
> When the series started I thought that it was going to take the direction
> of being sort of a live action superhero universe where costume heroes come
> alive. Or at least show the beginnings of a world like that.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:32 AM, angelababycat 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The last 5 eps are hogging space in my DVR, yet I can't bring myself to
> watch even when desperately surfing channels for something other than skiing
> or ghost hunting to watch.  As I think someone else mentioned in a previous
> discussion, the carnival stuff killed it for me.  I really do want to see
> the part about Clair outing herself, but how much more torture must I endure
> just to see that!?!
> Why does this keep happening to our shows?
> Angela
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > I think that they just ran out of steam and didn't have a well thought
> out
> > story line that would last this long. They stopped doing all of the cool
> > things that attracted people to the show. It was as if they changed the
> > format of the show without really changing anything and it broke the
> show.
> >
> > Its like turning a comedy show into a drama.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
> > tdli...@... wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > CANCEL â€" They destroyed the magic long ago. I do believe that the
> change
>
> > > in tone started in the middle of the first season, but I did like the
> whole
> > > first season. Thereafter with all the new characters introduced who
> were
> > > never developed by disappeared and all the story twists, I hung around
> out
> > > of loyalty from the first season for a while, hoping that the past
> glory
> > > would return, this season, I couldnâ€™t muster up the energy to turn
> the
>
> > > channel or to watch it on Hulu.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It jumped the shark long agoâ€¦. A fate worse than the series finale of
>
>
> > > Battlestar Gallactica. Who would have thought it possible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
> *On
> > > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:46 AM
> > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First
> Break
> > >
> > >
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

One reviewer said that "anybody who claims [to] fully understand what's going 
on in Primer after seeing it just once is either a savant or a liar."

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> I like the style of shooting as well, but it just kept losing me. And no, I 
> haven't seen that one.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
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> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@...
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:21:58 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer
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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter  wrote:
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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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> From: hellomahog...@...
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> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer
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> a couple of years ago. They have been repeating it on IFC this month. Its 
> coming on IFC again on 2/28 at 3am and 11am. 
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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> 
> About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760 at 
> the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad return on 
> investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance Audience Award 
> winner would do much better at the box office, today.
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> 
> Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film debut 
> in Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.
> 
> 
> 
> Wikipedia says he is working on a "mind-blowing SF script" for a movie called 
> "A Topiary," which is said to be in "pre-production."
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> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
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> 
> > Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> 
> > travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> 
> > something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
> 
> >
> 
> > This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> 
> > it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
> 
> >
> 
> > Has anyone seen this little film?
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
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[scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

I guess my nephew was right: FIRST, you build a time machine.  THEN, you go 
back in time.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer  wrote:
>
> Um.I dont know what movie your talking about...but the "something wrong"
> is a a bit different than you are selling it.
> 
> But it is one of the best time travel movies of all time. Period.
> 
> c w m
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> > travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> > something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
> >
> > This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> > it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this little film?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
> > 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

A primer is a strand of nucleic acid that serves as a starting point for DNA 
replication. They are required because the enzymes that catalyze replication, 
DNA polymerases, can only add new nucleotides to an existing strand of DNA. The 
polymerase starts replication at the 3'-end of the primer, and copies the 
opposite strand.
In most cases of natural DNA replication, the primer for DNA synthesis and 
replication is a short strand of RNA (which can be made de novo). This RNA is 
produced by primase, and is later removed and replaced with DNA by a repair 
polymerase.

Did you know that?  I didn't.  

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
> 
> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
> 
> Has anyone seen this little film?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter

Mr Worf, if I'm going to go there, it won't be on a small scale. I'll be 
needing the room. ;-D

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:55:56 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

  Actually a Nissan Altima can hold about 2 bodies pretty easily. :)

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

Isn't that why Deity made ballpeen hammers and '74 Lincoln Continentals (with 
extra-large trunks)? ;-)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:10:36 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

  The problem is that great scripts can be written but the people doing the 
decision making don't have the smarts to do anything with them. 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

Mr Worf, once again you prove that we need to be doing the writing in H'Wood...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

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From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:44 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

  Fast forward through the episodes. Many of them are useless and move the 
plot only incrementally. The Sylar/Peter thing bugs me although it was 
interesting. 

The Claire outing herself thing is the last couple of minutes of the last 
episode of the season. 

My question is what is the use of having people with superpowers and no 
one uses them? Everyone wants to "fit in." Peter could have quite 
literally made himself into Superman but they backed away from it. 

When the series started I thought that it was going to take the direction of 
being sort of a live action superhero universe where costume heroes come alive. 
Or at least show the beginnings of a world like that. 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:32 AM, angelababycat  
wrote:

The last 5 eps are hogging space in my DVR, yet I can't bring myself to watch 
even when desperately surfing channels for something other than skiing or ghost 
hunting to watch.  As I think someone else mentioned in a previous discussion, 
the carnival stuff killed it for me.  I really do want to see the part about 
Clair outing herself, but how much more torture must I endure just to see 
that!?!

Why does this keep happening to our shows?

Angela

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> I think that they just ran out of steam and didn't have a well thought out

> story line that would last this long. They stopped doing all of the cool
> things that attracted people to the show. It was as if they changed the
> format of the show without really changing anything and it broke the show.

> 
> Its like turning a comedy show into a drama.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@... wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > CANCEL â€" They destroyed the magic long ago. I do believe that the change

> > in tone started in the middle of the first season, but I did like the whole
> > first season. Thereafter with all the new characters introduced who were
> > never developed by disappeared and all the story twists, I hung around out

> > of loyalty from the first season for a while, hoping that the past glory
> > would return, this season, I couldnâ€™t muster up the energy to turn the
> > channel or to watch it on Hulu.

> >
> >
> >
> > It jumped the shark long agoâ€¦. A fate worse than the series finale of
> > Battlestar Gallactica. Who would have thought it possible.
> >

> >
> >
> > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On

> > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:46 AM
> > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At this point I think that the series has too many issues. They have turned
> > Sylar into a repented "hero" with a dark past. Claire has outed herself to

> > the world and now they run the risk of falling into that strange void of no
> > where to go from here.
> >
> > They left a few holes in the plot that they never really explained. Its

> > just a mess. Do they deserve a renewal? I

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter

I like the style of shooting as well, but it just kept losing me. And no, I 
haven't seen that one.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:21:58 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

  The style is a little heavy on the cerebral vs visual. I found it 
interesting because of the camera style (a reality style) and the directors 
ability to tell a story without a big budget. 

Has anyone seen the film Bobby loves Mangoes?

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

I've seen it twice and, frankly, IMO, it's a snoozer. Great idea, lousy 
follow-thru.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:51:38 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

  The first time that I saw it, it was on the PBS show called Imagemakers a 
couple of years ago. They have been repeating it on IFC this month. Its coming 
on IFC again on 2/28 at 3am and 11am. 

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760 at 
the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad return on 
investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance Audience Award 
winner would do much better at the box office, today.

Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film debut in 
Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.

Wikipedia says he is working on a "mind-blowing SF script" for a movie called 
"A Topiary," which is said to be in "pre-production."

~rave!

http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/

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>

> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time

> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover

> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.

>

> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how

> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.

>

> Has anyone seen this little film?

>

>

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RE: [scifinoir2] 2010 Script Pimp Writing Competitions - CALL FOR ENTRIES - Deadlines: 3/1 (Early), 5/1/2010 (Regular)

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


My Pimp Pencil is strong, but I fear that I barely have time to write what's 
inf ront of me. Screenplay adapting? If I ahd another hundred years of life.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:27:14 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] 2010 Script Pimp Writing Competitions - CALL FOR ENTRIES 
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RE: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Fate, you read my mind to the letter.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:41:54 +
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I would change the ending to DS9. Leave ST:THG alone (ending that is). Continue 
2 explore the mirror universe and the continuation of the founding of the 
Federation in Enterprise.  And not even do that piece of crap Voyager. 

Fate. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
From:  "Mr. Worf" 
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:59:45 -0800To: Subject: 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past Decade

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Pardon me. Tired, didn't clarify. He was asking why Democrats see anything 
wrong with the Wasilla Wingnut.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:09:50 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past 
Decade


















 



  



  
  
  Has Wilson joined the ranks of wingnuttery? Damn shame because I love his 
Repairman Jack series.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> B, I'm feeling the same way toward F. Paul Wilson as you are toward Simmons.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: daikaij...@...

> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:43:40 +

> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past 
> Decade

> 

> 

> 

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>  

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> 

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> 

>   

>   

>   Snow Crash. Stephenson's writing is great but it never really engages 
> me. I think I'd do better with an audiobook version because I like the story.

> 

> 

> 

> William Gibson's Spook Country. I made it through Pattern Recognition but 
> Spook Country didn't hook me. I liked Walter Jon Williams work in the same 
> vein much more. This Is Not A Game was one of favorite books from last year.

> 

> 

> 

> Dan Simmons' The Terror and Drood were interesting but I couldn't finish 
> either. Plus his political screeds post 9/11 really changed the way I viewed 
> him as a person and some of that affected my enjoyment of his work.

> 

> 

> 

> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:

> 

> >

> 

> > There's a topic for you. Which book or books have you tried to read multiple

> 

> > times but just haven't managed to finish?

> 

> > 

> 

> > For me it is Stephen King's The Stand. I tried to read and finish it 9

> 

> > times.

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Martin Baxter

> 

> > wrote:

> 

> > 

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> > >

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> > >

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> > > I'm still waiting for "Boneshaker" to free itself from Queue Heck at the

> 

> > > library. (A close friend read it and raved on it for weeks.) My first

> 

> > > introduction to Steampunk (as was pretty much everyone else in SF) was

> 

> > > Gibson and Sterling's "The Difference Engine". And, like many in the 
> > > genre,

> 

> > > it nearly ran me out. Possibly the second-most verbose book I've ever

> 

> > > touched in my life. (And Joyce's "Ulysses" ranks #5 on that list, right

> 

> > > below "War and Peace".) Thought I was strange in my reaction to it (owning

> 

> > > it and having yet to get more than 40 pages into it), but I've since 
> > > learned

> 

> > > that I'm far from alone there.

> 

> > >

> 

> > > --

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> > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past Decade

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


Oh, yes. He wrote an op-ed piece somewhere, asking, basically, what was wrong 
with Sarah Palin. I was reading a Repairman Jack at the time I learned of that. 
Stopped reading it.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:09:50 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past 
Decade


















 



  



  
  
  Has Wilson joined the ranks of wingnuttery? Damn shame because I love his 
Repairman Jack series.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> B, I'm feeling the same way toward F. Paul Wilson as you are toward Simmons.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: daikaij...@...

> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:43:40 +

> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: How Steampunk Literature Has Changed In The Past 
> Decade

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>  

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

> 

>   

>   

>   Snow Crash. Stephenson's writing is great but it never really engages 
> me. I think I'd do better with an audiobook version because I like the story.

> 

> 

> 

> William Gibson's Spook Country. I made it through Pattern Recognition but 
> Spook Country didn't hook me. I liked Walter Jon Williams work in the same 
> vein much more. This Is Not A Game was one of favorite books from last year.

> 

> 

> 

> Dan Simmons' The Terror and Drood were interesting but I couldn't finish 
> either. Plus his political screeds post 9/11 really changed the way I viewed 
> him as a person and some of that affected my enjoyment of his work.

> 

> 

> 

> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:

> 

> >

> 

> > There's a topic for you. Which book or books have you tried to read multiple

> 

> > times but just haven't managed to finish?

> 

> > 

> 

> > For me it is Stephen King's The Stand. I tried to read and finish it 9

> 

> > times.

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Martin Baxter

> 

> > wrote:

> 

> > 

> 

> > >

> 

> > >

> 

> > > I'm still waiting for "Boneshaker" to free itself from Queue Heck at the

> 

> > > library. (A close friend read it and raved on it for weeks.) My first

> 

> > > introduction to Steampunk (as was pretty much everyone else in SF) was

> 

> > > Gibson and Sterling's "The Difference Engine". And, like many in the 
> > > genre,

> 

> > > it nearly ran me out. Possibly the second-most verbose book I've ever

> 

> > > touched in my life. (And Joyce's "Ulysses" ranks #5 on that list, right

> 

> > > below "War and Peace".) Thought I was strange in my reaction to it (owning

> 

> > > it and having yet to get more than 40 pages into it), but I've since 
> > > learned

> 

> > > that I'm far from alone there.

> 

> > >

> 

> > > --

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Re: [scifinoir2] tech: disappearing car door

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

Its convenient but I don't think that it will catch on. Maybe after someone
retools it? Its been out for a few years now.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> This is a good thing. As long as you don't hit the button by accident while
> tooling down the road, that is.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:55:29 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] tech: disappearing car door
>
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGRzPFUlIeY
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] Why English Teachers Die Young

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


The writer in me screams in laughter at that.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:02:17 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Why English Teachers Die Young


















 



  



  
  
  
 































 


  
  

  






Why 
English Teachers Die Young
 
Every year, English 
teachers from across the country can submit their 
collections 
of actual analogies and metaphors found in high school 
essays.

These excerpts are published each year to the amusement 
of teachers.

Here are last year's winners.

1. Her face 
was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two sides 
gently 
compressed by a Thigh Master.

2. His thoughts tumbled in his 
head, making and breaking alliances 
like 
underpants in a dryer without Cling Free.

3. He spoke with the 
wisdom that can only come from experience, like a 
guy 
who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one 
of 
those 
boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country 
speaking 
at high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar 
eclipse 
without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

4. She grew on 
him like she was a colony of E. Coli, and he was 
room-temperature 
Canadian beef.

5. She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh, like 
that sound a dog makes 
just 
before it throws up.

6. Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, 
whatever.

7. He was as tall as a six-foot, three-inch 
tree.

8. The revelation that his marriage of 30 years had 
disintegrated 
because 
of his wife's infidelity came as a rude shock, like a 
surcharge 
at a formerly surcharge-free ATM machine.

9. The little boat 
gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a 
bowling 
ball wouldn't.

10. McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement 
like a Hefty bag 
filled 
with vegetable soup.

11. From the attic came an unearthly howl. 
The whole scene had an 
eerie, 
surreal quality, like when you're on vacation in another 
city 
and 
Jeopardy comes on at 7:00 p.m. instead of 7:30.

12. Her hair 
glistened in the rain like a nose hair after a sneeze.

13. The 
hailstones leaped from the pavement, just like maggots when 
you 
fry 
them in hot grease.

14. Long separated by cruel fate, the 
star-crossed lovers raced across 
the 
grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one 
having 
left 
Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. traveling at 55 mph, the other from 
Topeka 
at 
4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph.

15. They lived in a typical 
suburban neighborhood with picket fences 
that 
resembled Nancy Kerrigan's teeth.

16. John and Mary had never 
met. They were like two hummingbirds who 
had 
also never met.

17. He fell for her like his heart was a mob 
informant and she was 
the 
East River.

18. Even in his last years, Granddad had a mind like 
a steel trap, 
only 
one that had been left out so long it had rusted 
shut.
19. 
Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do.

20. The plan was simple, 
like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, 
this 
plan just might work.

21. The young fighter had a hungry look, 
the kind you get from not 
eating 
for a while.

22. He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical 
lame duck, either, 
but 
a real duck that was actually lame, maybe from stepping on a 
land 
mine 
or something.

23. The ballerina rose gracefully en Pointe and 
extended one slender 
leg 
behind her, like a dog at a fire hydrant.

24. It was an American 
tradition, like fathers chasing kids around 
with 
power tools.

25. He was deeply in love. When she spoke, he 
thought he heard bells, 
as 
if she were a garbage truck backing 
up.
 




















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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

The style is a little heavy on the cerebral vs visual. I found it
interesting because of the camera style (a reality style) and the directors
ability to tell a story without a big budget.

Has anyone seen the film Bobby loves Mangoes?

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter
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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:51:38 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer
>
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>  The first time that I saw it, it was on the PBS show called Imagemakers a
> couple of years ago. They have been repeating it on IFC this month. Its
> coming on IFC again on 2/28 at 3am and 11am.
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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
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> About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760
> at the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad
> return on investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance
> Audience Award winner would do much better at the box office, today.
>
> Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film
> debut in Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.
>
> Wikipedia says he is working on a "mind-blowing SF script" for a movie
> called "A Topiary," which is said to be in "pre-production."
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> > something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
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> > This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and
> how
> > it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
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RE: [scifinoir2] tech: disappearing car door

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter


This is a good thing. As long as you don't hit the button by accident while 
tooling down the road, that is.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Baxter

I've seen it twice and, frankly, IMO, it's a snoozer. Great idea, lousy 
follow-thru.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:51:38 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

  The first time that I saw it, it was on the PBS show called Imagemakers a 
couple of years ago. They have been repeating it on IFC this month. Its coming 
on IFC again on 2/28 at 3am and 11am. 

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760 at 
the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad return on 
investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance Audience Award 
winner would do much better at the box office, today.

Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film debut in 
Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.

Wikipedia says he is working on a "mind-blowing SF script" for a movie called 
"A Topiary," which is said to be in "pre-production."

~rave!

http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:

>

> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time

> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover

> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.

>

> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how

> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.

>

> Has anyone seen this little film?

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

The first time that I saw it, it was on the PBS show called Imagemakers a
couple of years ago. They have been repeating it on IFC this month. Its
coming on IFC again on 2/28 at 3am and 11am.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760
> at the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad
> return on investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance
> Audience Award winner would do much better at the box office, today.
>
> Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film
> debut in Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.
>
> Wikipedia says he is working on a "mind-blowing SF script" for a movie
> called "A Topiary," which is said to be in "pre-production."
>
> ~rave!
>
> http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/
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> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> > travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> > something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
> >
> > This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and
> how
> > it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this little film?
> >
> >
> >
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[scifinoir2] Re: Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Kelwyn

About to watch Primer on Netflix.  I looked it up.  It only made $424,760 at 
the worldwide box office BUT it only cost $7000 to make.  Not a bad return on 
investment.  2004 seems so long ago.  I suspect a Sundance Audience Award 
winner would do much better at the box office, today.

Oddly, while co-star David Sullivan has worked steadily since his film debut in 
Primer, writer-director Shane Carruth has no credits since 2004.

Wikipedia says he is working on a "mind-blowing SF script" for a movie called 
"A Topiary," which is said to be in "pre-production."

~rave!

http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
> 
> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
> 
> Has anyone seen this little film?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Tracy Curtis

I've seen that movie.  It was nice to see a time travel plot not overrun by
special effects.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Amy Harlib  wrote:

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> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
>
> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
>
> Has anyone seen this little film?
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Amy Harlib


ahar...@earthlink.net
  I thought it was excellent.
  Cheers!
  Amy

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  Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time 
travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover 
something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing. 

  This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how it 
could possibly work from an engineer's point of view. 

  Has anyone seen this little film?



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Re: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites

2010-02-20 Thread Keith Johnson

what do you mean by "rewrite"? Do you mean revisit a series and update it in 
some ways, maybe telling side stories that were never explored, or updating 
some outdated cultural representations? Or do you mean completing redoing the 
series? 

I don't think any of the series needs a full rewrite, just updating. I'd only 
touch the OS, and even then I'd leave all the characters and main missions 
shown in the OS alone. What I'd do is explore the world more fully with new 
missions, the way TNG and yes, "Enterprise" did. I'd spend more time with eps 
dealing with the Romulans and Klingons outside of just battles, fleshing out 
relationships with them. I'd pull in more races like the Tholians, the 
Andorians, and see more about how the Federation works. This was one of the 
good things "Enterprise" did: it told a good story of how we started forming 
relationships with other races. 

The main update I'd do to the OS lies along racial and gender lines. It was a 
product of its time in that women were given secondary roles. Number One from 
the original pilot was a bridge officer. By the time the series was aired, 
she'd been rewritten as McCoy's assistant Nurse Chapel. No women are bridge 
officers or starship commanders. The best women are shown as is as lawyers and 
psychiatrists. The series ender "Turnabout Intruder" is based around a jealous 
former lover of Kirk's who literally steals his body so she can command a 
starship--something the show makes clear is beyond women. Kirk even says "Her 
life could have been as full as any woman's. If only..." The only exception was 
the Romulan Sub-Commander in "The Enterprise Incident", and even she was 
portrayed as a woman easily manipulated by Spock's two-finger mack attack! 

So I'd simply update it to show women as Starfleet officers and in high ranking 
jobs on Earth and in the Federation. I'd do the same for Blacks and other 
people of color. At least blacks had Uhura, though she was a glorified 
secretary. They did at least acknowledge that black men were high ranking, as 
the guy who presided over Kirk's court-martial was black, a Commodore, and a 
former starship captain. There were black men shown as crewmen, and of course, 
Doctor Daystorm, the super genius inventor of Duotronics and the M5. But still, 
I'd show more blacks and people of color in more roles. 

Other than that i don't believe the series need rewrites. Just a few tweaks 
here and there. and to beat that dead horse, all this can be done *without* 
shifting stuff to an alternate universe, the way that crappy movie did... :( 


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If you had the power to rewrite any of the Star trek series what would you do?

Re: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites

2010-02-20 Thread jazzynupe_007

I would change the ending to DS9. Leave ST:THG alone (ending that is). Continue 
2 explore the mirror universe and the continuation of the founding of the 
Federation in Enterprise.  And not even do that piece of crap Voyager. 

Fate. 
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If you had the power to rewrite any of the Star trek series what would you
do?

Re: [scifinoir2] Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Omari Confer

Um.I dont know what movie your talking about...but the "something wrong"
is a a bit different than you are selling it.

But it is one of the best time travel movies of all time. Period.

c w m

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

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>
> Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
> travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
> something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.
>
> This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
> it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.
>
> Has anyone seen this little film?
>
>
>
> --
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> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
> 
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[scifinoir2] Movie: Primer

2010-02-20 Thread Mr. Worf

Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time
travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover
something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing.

This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how
it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view.

Has anyone seen this little film?



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